WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 3 October

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, well, good evening and thanks for joining us. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Bond Sky News contributor Claire Row And I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you before we go on any further. Claire Row

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<v Speaker 2>made us magnificent Mars bar slice. Caleb, I know you're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>You will not be back on the show unless you

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<v Speaker 2>up the ante.

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<v Speaker 3>On Mondays, stay in Adelaide, buddy, who needs you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got Brownie clan.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's the start of the show. But we love

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<v Speaker 4>your contribution already, clear, it's magnificent.

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<v Speaker 5>Love to be here well.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Signs road signs of Donald Trump have begun mysteriously appearing

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<v Speaker 2>right throughout New York City, but no one knows who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it or why.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll show you that a little later.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus, when we look at the papers, Victoria's road network

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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely crumbling. You will not believe how many potholes

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<v Speaker 2>every day repair crews are having to fill. We'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you a little later, but whatever number you're thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I guarantee you it'll be way more than

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<v Speaker 2>you could possibly imagine. On top of that, the Albanezi

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<v Speaker 2>government's vehicle emissions scheme has been blown apart by their

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<v Speaker 2>own ineptitude. They have accidentally exempted some of the most

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<v Speaker 2>emitting vehicles. We'll talk about that when we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the papers. But you know, coming into the Sky News

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<v Speaker 2>studio earlier this evening, I misplaced my security pass and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking to myself, idiot, I'm always losing either my

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<v Speaker 2>security pass or my car keys, and I thought, James,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be too hard on yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Get this.

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales police have misplaced five thousand, five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy seven bulletproof vests. An audit of police resources

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<v Speaker 2>found that they had lost five and a half thousand

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. That's a lot of bulletproof vests to

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<v Speaker 2>slip down behind the couch. If you think I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>this up, have a look at this career mail report.

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales Police lost track of five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven ballistic vests worth an astonishing eight point four

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars, according to an explosive internal audit in July

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. Now, this audit went on to say

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<v Speaker 2>the reconciliation audit has identified a total body armor deficit

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<v Speaker 2>of five and a half thousand vests. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>police briefing signed by Miss web she's the Commissioner's chief

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<v Speaker 2>of staff. It went on to say this is an

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<v Speaker 2>estimated asset value of eight point three sixty five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and concluded that the ballistic vests had historically been

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<v Speaker 2>treated as a uniform item rather than a prohibited weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now most states in Australia regard bulletproof vests as a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, if you want a bulletproof vest in New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales you have to apply and it's only permitted

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<v Speaker 2>if you can prove you're a security guard who requires one,

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<v Speaker 2>or a member of a media organization going to report

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere dangerous and ironically, one of the strict conditions for

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<v Speaker 2>being allowed to have a bullet proof vest is that

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<v Speaker 2>you can prove that you will store it safely and securely.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike Liz, the New South Wales Police Force they've been

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<v Speaker 2>treating these things like hoodies, just leaving them all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place. The Deputy Commissioner, David Hudson said the number

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<v Speaker 2>of missing vests was quote embarrassing Liz and Claire, I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon if you lost ten bullet proof vests. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be embarrassing, but to lose five and a half thousand

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<v Speaker 2>of them, that's beyond embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just absolutely hopeless.

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<v Speaker 3>And now they're looking at doing a third audit. So

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<v Speaker 3>the audit that we're currently talking about was from twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, at which point Commissioner Karen Webb was asked,

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<v Speaker 3>can you account for these thousands of missing vests? She couldn't,

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<v Speaker 3>so then there was a second audit, but that audit

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<v Speaker 3>said that there was only and I quote two two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty eight vests that were on account for.

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<v Speaker 3>So now there's going to be a third audit, which

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<v Speaker 3>is why today Commissioner Karen Webb's office says no comment

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<v Speaker 3>until the third audit has been completed. What a plava

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<v Speaker 3>are they just trying to cover their tracks now and say,

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<v Speaker 3>actually it's half the original number, which of course the

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<v Speaker 3>LACC otherwise known as the Enforcement Conduct Commission with saying, well,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, what you've said in the first audit and

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<v Speaker 3>the second audit rather large discrepancy. So now we taxpayers

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<v Speaker 3>are forking out for a third order to find out

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<v Speaker 3>who the heck has these vests because you can bet

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<v Speaker 3>your bottom dollar whoever wants to be bulletproof are precisely

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<v Speaker 3>the people we don't want to being bulletproof.

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<v Speaker 6>Are these things that small, right, We're not talking about

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<v Speaker 6>like some caps lying around the place. If you've ever

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<v Speaker 6>seen the guys wearing this, these are quite big items.

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<v Speaker 5>Like they're not stamp uniform items.

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<v Speaker 6>They are rated like a category E firearm, so they

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<v Speaker 6>should not be in the hands of people you know

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<v Speaker 6>that they shouldn't be, and it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just think this.

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<v Speaker 6>Goes to the just ineptness again of the inefficiency of

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<v Speaker 6>any public run to be on a state or federal system.

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<v Speaker 6>Like I run a small business if I lost eight

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<v Speaker 6>point four million dollars worth of asset, I don't have

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<v Speaker 6>eight point four million.

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<v Speaker 5>Dollars worth of but if I did, like heads would roll.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, you can't run a business like that.

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<v Speaker 6>And yet suddenly you know that the public sector just

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<v Speaker 6>seems to be able to do this in this mismanagement

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<v Speaker 6>and this bloated sense of just absolute inefficiency.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the difference between your illustration if it

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<v Speaker 2>was your business and of course the police service, is

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<v Speaker 2>that you would have to pay for the missing like

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<v Speaker 2>your business for the public service. We all get left

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<v Speaker 2>with the bill. It raises some questions though, I mean, firstly,

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<v Speaker 2>how do five and a half thousand book proofests just

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<v Speaker 2>go missing and they've only just kind of realized. But

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<v Speaker 2>also a lot of prosecutions rely on police being able

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<v Speaker 2>to prove a chain of custody of evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>You know exactly this.

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<v Speaker 2>Item went to this person to this person. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>person is charged with receiving stolen goods. Yes, how can

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<v Speaker 2>you believe police prosecutions in cases like that when they

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<v Speaker 2>can't keep track of their own equipment?

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<v Speaker 7>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't trust them as far as you can throll if

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<v Speaker 3>this story is anything to go by to the US

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<v Speaker 3>now where following the vice president their vice presidential debate.

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<v Speaker 7>There, I got it out.

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<v Speaker 3>People have taken to Twitter to share their thoughts, especially

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<v Speaker 3>about this bizarre line from Democrat VP nominee Tim Waltz,

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<v Speaker 3>who said he had some very unusual friends.

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<v Speaker 7>You previously oppose an assault weapons ban, but it only

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<v Speaker 7>later in your political career did you change your position? Why?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's setting that office with those Sandiok parents. So

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<v Speaker 8>I've become friends with school shooters.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>You've become friends with school shooters. Naturally, the press was

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<v Speaker 3>all over this, and he was pressed very hard about

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<v Speaker 3>it to no avail, finding instead pizza in a display

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<v Speaker 3>cabinet suddenly so fascinating he couldn't possibly toss a reply

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<v Speaker 3>over his shoulder coverny.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, you'd become friends with school shooters?

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<v Speaker 5>Or the debate?

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<v Speaker 9>You clarify what you meant on that?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you clarify what you meant when you said you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be friends with school shooters? Well, today he took another

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<v Speaker 3>whack at it, because the press aren't giving up on

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<v Speaker 3>such a bizarre statement from the man who wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be vice president of the most powerful country in the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's what he had to say second time round.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you a fair thing comsy?

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<v Speaker 7>You need the school shooters?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>And look, you got to see me. These folks know me.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm super passionate about this. The question come up on

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<v Speaker 8>school shooting. We're talking about everything except school shootings. And

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<v Speaker 8>I set a remember of Congress with the Sanduo parents

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<v Speaker 8>and it was a profound movement. David Hogg is a

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<v Speaker 8>good friend of mine. You have seen me do this.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm talking about being people where there are school shooters.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, so he just misspoke a bit like how he

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<v Speaker 3>misspoke about being at the Tianaman's Square protests in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty nine. I suppose so he did say during the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets carried away with the rhetoric. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump campaign was very quick to pick up on this

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre line from Tim Waltz, posting this on Truth Social

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<v Speaker 3>Trump and Waltz not friends with shooters, Trump and Vance rather,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is just a hilarious line from him.

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<v Speaker 3>The press have not given him a minute's rest since

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<v Speaker 3>he said it, and now he's just trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>people go, oh, I just I just misspoke. Why would

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<v Speaker 3>you misspoke? Saying that your friends with school shooting.

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<v Speaker 6>The knucklehead apparently was his explanation, you admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I don't understand about this current US administration is

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<v Speaker 2>they are all terrible communicators. Joe Biden can't speak proper no,

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris can't speak proper karine. Jean Pierre, the White

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<v Speaker 2>House spokesperson, has trouble getting out of a sentence. And

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Waltz, I mean, he's meant to be a school teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet he continually stumbles and then he says I

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<v Speaker 2>love it, where he says, oh, I want to explain

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<v Speaker 2>what I.

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<v Speaker 7>Meant, and then go on to explain anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other people for the clarification, there was no clarification.

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<v Speaker 2>The other irony about this is the Democrats are complaining that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his statement's been taken out of context and

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<v Speaker 2>people are mischaracterized. He's of course he's not a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of school shooters, but they continually mischaracterized and take it

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<v Speaker 2>out of context. Donald Trump, for instance, remember how Trump

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<v Speaker 2>said that there'd be an economic blood bath if his

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<v Speaker 2>auto policies weren't enacted, and then they said, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>Trump loses the election, there'll be a blood bath, implying

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<v Speaker 2>he meant violence.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump said that he'd be dictator for a day.

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<v Speaker 2>When asked jokingly, what would you love to do if

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<v Speaker 2>you could do anything, he said, I'd be dictator for

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<v Speaker 2>one day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it related to energy policy. And then

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats said, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>He's promised he's going to be a dictator from day one.

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<v Speaker 2>So they continually take things out of context and now

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<v Speaker 2>complain that Waltz is being taken out of context.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I think this goes to really the issue here when

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<v Speaker 6>you speak to someone in the street, even in Australia

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<v Speaker 6>at the moment, and you ask them what they think

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<v Speaker 6>of that, you know, the US election, and the answer

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<v Speaker 6>is routinely.

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<v Speaker 5>Is this all they've got?

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<v Speaker 6>Do they not have anyone better in the entire country?

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<v Speaker 6>And so I think the issue here is that we

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<v Speaker 6>can all misspeak.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we're here on live TV. Things can come out

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<v Speaker 5>of our mouth that we can't put back.

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<v Speaker 4>We're good tonight, but we are not running.

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<v Speaker 6>To be the vice president of the United States, right,

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<v Speaker 6>And so I think there has to be like we

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<v Speaker 6>kids cannot be forgiving on that. This is such a

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<v Speaker 6>this is the biggest job interview ever and there needs

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<v Speaker 6>to be an expectation of clarity of confidence, particularly around

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<v Speaker 6>sensitive issues like school shootings. Really like, you do not

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<v Speaker 6>want to fumble your words when you're talking about subject

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<v Speaker 6>matters like that, And you're right, none of them can

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<v Speaker 6>actually speak.

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<v Speaker 2>The other peculiar thing about this is, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that he misspoke. Of course, he's not hanging out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, down the park with school shooters because he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a little club going on, so we all know

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't mean to say what he said, but it

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<v Speaker 2>begs the question, is this I don't understand help me.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't he just simply say I got that wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>What I meant to say was and we would all go,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but instead they go this way, they go

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<v Speaker 2>that way, everything except simply address the mistake. Is this

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<v Speaker 2>because so much of what they say is not true

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<v Speaker 2>that they eventually just have trouble telling him.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think what you've missed is that was him

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<v Speaker 3>doing exactly what you said he should do.

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<v Speaker 7>He thinks that he's done. That was plain nat replied, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was Here's way of saying I misspoke.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's my actual explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the media is finding it very hard to find

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<v Speaker 3>any fault with JD Vance's performance in yesterday's debate, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they've taken to picking on his body language and

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<v Speaker 3>namely his beard.

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<v Speaker 7>Check out this number.

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<v Speaker 3>From Politico eight body language tells from the vice presidential debate.

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<v Speaker 3>This article is written by Joe Navarro. He says, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a telepath. I'm a body language expert with

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<v Speaker 3>over fifty years of experience, twenty five of which I

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<v Speaker 3>spent with the FBI, where I served in the National

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<v Speaker 3>Security division's elite behavioral analysis program. I've used my expertise

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<v Speaker 3>in the endlessly subtle science of nonverbal communication to help

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<v Speaker 3>ferret out spies and put away criminals.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Joe, you sound so impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Do tell us your insights from the debate.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the first bits of nonverbal communication to a

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<v Speaker 3>here in the debate was on JD.

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<v Speaker 7>Vance's face his beard.

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<v Speaker 3>As Politico Magazine has noted before, Vance is the first

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<v Speaker 3>White House wanna be to wear facial hair in eighty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Our appearance is fundamental to our body language, and research

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<v Speaker 3>indicates that voters see beards as surprise, surprise, more masculine.

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<v Speaker 3>That can be positive to some, reading as a strength

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<v Speaker 3>and competence, but to others, especially women, it can be negative,

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<v Speaker 3>conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals. Joe, Buddy, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not a body language expert, and I don't have fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>Years of experience.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's just a small illustration of why JD.

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<v Speaker 7>Vance has chosen to have a beard.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a shot from twenty seventeen before beard pre beard.

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<v Speaker 7>Does this di look presidential to you? Not very?

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<v Speaker 3>He looks like he's just finished Uni and he's on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone to his mum. Now let's compare that with

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday's JD Vance. Oh yes, that's a president in waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't need you to unpack why this guy has

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<v Speaker 3>grown a beard, or how it could spell out aggression

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<v Speaker 3>or him trying.

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<v Speaker 7>To just look presidential. It just is what it is, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god for Politico because left devices, I would have thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the beard was either tho personal style or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe just facial hair. But now I know that a

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<v Speaker 2>beard is a sign, a surefire sign of misogyny, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes me see other figures in a whole new light.

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<v Speaker 2>Abe Lincoln terrible misogynist. Oh Jesus Christ hopeless misogynist. Santa

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<v Speaker 2>Claus himself a terrible misogynist.

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Goodness, Caleb bon a huge misogynist, I said.

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<v Speaker 4>The other misogynist though, beard Karl Marx. And this is

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<v Speaker 4>a bit awkward. Karl Marx had a beard.

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<v Speaker 2>But Politico only regard a beard as a sign of

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<v Speaker 2>misogyny if you're a conservative. Because back in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at this from Politico. At the very

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of this interminable year, Justin Trudeau grew a beard.

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<v Speaker 2>The beard was significant, a symbol of a once useful

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister who was now older and wiser, and battlescarred.

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>A beard is a sign of misogyny, according to Politico

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a conservative, but if you're a lefty, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a sign of wisdom and maturity.

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<v Speaker 6>It is maturity, right, And let's not forget that Daily

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<v Speaker 6>Advance is one of the youngest candidates to be VP.

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<v Speaker 6>He was born of the same year and month is

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<v Speaker 6>myself so very young, very very and.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it does add.

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<v Speaker 6>A certain maturity the beard and strength and confidence, and

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<v Speaker 6>God forbid that those would actually be the qualities that

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<v Speaker 6>we would want.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, God Manland, Oh terrible. Look.

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<v Speaker 5>On a serious note, this just comes.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a ridiculous I actually thought it was satire

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<v Speaker 6>when I saw these, and I just think it's another

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<v Speaker 6>one of those articles that uses the word masculine. But

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<v Speaker 6>they've just they really didn't mean that racketed word of toxic,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in front of masculine, And that never happens

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<v Speaker 6>with femininity, right, I never talked about toxic femininity always,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, And why is masculinity bad?

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<v Speaker 5>It's not bad? And in the case of no more

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<v Speaker 5>of our country. That's what we want.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying a woman with a beard that would

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<v Speaker 4>be an example of.

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<v Speaker 5>Toxic, well that that may be the case. That may

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<v Speaker 5>be the case. And I'm not sure whether you know

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala can go that way.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway she thought I was some voke she would do it.

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<v Speaker 7>But Joe's taking a part.

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<v Speaker 3>The body language of these two candidates continues, this time

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<v Speaker 3>focusing on Tim Woltz.

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<v Speaker 7>So I newly get fascinated by this.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the other side of the story.

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<v Speaker 7>There was no beard to pick on, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe has gone with something else, he writes. When Waltz

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<v Speaker 3>felt especially passionate about something, he'd open his eyes wide.

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<v Speaker 3>As sources, eye popping can sometimes be a sign of surprise,

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<v Speaker 3>but for Waltz, it simply revealed his emotional intensity, like

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<v Speaker 3>this moment during an exchange about abortion. Early humans would

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<v Speaker 3>have made such facial gestures to communicate strong emotions like

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<v Speaker 3>danger is close, But for walt it gave extra weight

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<v Speaker 3>to his feelings and held our gaze. Again, mate, I

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<v Speaker 3>am no body language expert, but that wide eyed expression

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<v Speaker 3>that we basically never saw wiped off the face of

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<v Speaker 3>Tim Walt.

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<v Speaker 7>That was sheer terror. That was sheer terror.

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<v Speaker 3>And when they were less wide open, he just looked confused.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a dear court in headline.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a body language expert.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you that that is complete and utter pop psychology.

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<v Speaker 6>That was either an optic twitch or a tick or

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, it was this absolute paddock. You know, but

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<v Speaker 6>maybe we could just start doing that when we need to, like,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in further, there's danger here across the desk,

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<v Speaker 6>we'll just hypopit each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the amazing thing is that the world is

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<v Speaker 2>on fire right now and this is the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that pulled so running with this is what qualifies,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, insightful analysis and journalism. Meanwhile, while Politico

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<v Speaker 2>are off in fantasy land, Americans are really suffering, especially

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<v Speaker 2>those who have been hit by the recent hurricane that

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<v Speaker 2>tore through six states, destroying entire communities. Almost two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people dead, about one hundred people still missing at last report,

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<v Speaker 2>and one one hundred and.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty thousand households. It's not people. One hundred and fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Households have applied for federal assistance and relief. Here's Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris with the good news.

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<v Speaker 9>The federal relief and assistance that we have been providing

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<v Speaker 9>has included FEMA providing seven hundred and fifty dollars for

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<v Speaker 9>folks who need immediate needs being met.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven hundred and fifty bucks. Your home has been destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>your town is in ruins.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats are going to rock up with seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fift That's not seven hundred ffty dollars a week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like a monthly payment until you get yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a one off seven hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Good luck with.

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<v Speaker 5>That US dollars. You will add a bit more on.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, But if you're thinking that there may be some

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<v Speaker 2>more coming down the track, don't hold your breath because

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<v Speaker 2>Homeland Security Secretary Alexandro mayorcus he said, and they quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we're meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We're expecting another hurricane hitting. But FEMA, that's the organization

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<v Speaker 2>committed to relief, does not have the funds to make

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<v Speaker 2>it through the season. So Liz it raises the question,

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<v Speaker 2>this is hurricane season. This is not a surprise. They

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<v Speaker 2>allocate money every year so that they can help citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>American citizens get through these times. But they've got seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty bucks per household and that's it. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>the money gone?

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<v Speaker 3>This is utterly disgusting. Just to help you realize how

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<v Speaker 3>pitiful this is.

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<v Speaker 7>In the last year alone, we have spent one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>And fifty billion dollars on the twenty million illegal immigrants,

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<v Speaker 3>most of which have been facilitated into the country by

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<v Speaker 3>this administration. They've been spending all that government resources on

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<v Speaker 3>these illegals. Here we have thousands of Americans in Diony.

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<v Speaker 3>They've lost their homes, their cars are underwater, the trail

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<v Speaker 3>of destruction. They haven't seen this type of hurricane in

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<v Speaker 3>fifty years in mainland America, and here they are being.

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<v Speaker 7>Told seven hundred and fifty bucks a pop.

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<v Speaker 3>She'll be right, it can grab some musli bars and

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<v Speaker 3>what are the What are these people expected to do?

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<v Speaker 7>They've lost absolutely everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if they are fortunate enough to have insurance, we

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<v Speaker 3>all know that takes a long time to kick in

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<v Speaker 3>and for you to see absolutely any fruit from that.

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<v Speaker 7>These people are utterly desperate.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk has already bailed them out, giving them communications

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<v Speaker 3>via Starlink, because back in twenty twenty two, this government,

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<v Speaker 3>rather the Communications Board, which is apparently totally independent, gave

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk a grant to build it in this disaster

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<v Speaker 3>prone area for situations like this, and then took back

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<v Speaker 3>the grant. They claim it's got nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 3>his political affiliations, him being a big supporter of Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>But of course that poses a huge question mark. So

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<v Speaker 3>Elon's coming to the rescue in terms of communications for

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<v Speaker 3>these communities that are completely otherwise cut off. These guys

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<v Speaker 3>have been handed seven hundred and fifty bucks from their

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<v Speaker 3>federal government. There's no more aid coming, and you've just

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<v Speaker 3>got Homeland Security secretary saying femas out of money. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not even going to make it through this if

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<v Speaker 3>only you'd look after your own before the illegals. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's to say nothing of the tens of billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars they've spent in foreign aid this year alone.

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<v Speaker 5>It's ridiculous, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think, you know, the Republicans do not need

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<v Speaker 6>any other point to prosecute other the next like this

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<v Speaker 6>is it really? And it goes to the question that

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<v Speaker 6>I think Australians need to ask themselves as well here

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<v Speaker 6>to look at this and say, what is the role

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<v Speaker 6>of our elected representatives, what is it is it actually

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<v Speaker 6>to represent our best interests?

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<v Speaker 5>And at the end of the day, as global.

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<v Speaker 6>Citizens, we should be giving foreign aid, we should be

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<v Speaker 6>helping people who want you know, protection here, but not

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<v Speaker 6>at the complete expense of our own citizens, right And

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<v Speaker 6>at the end of the day, they've turned around and said,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, we've got no money left for hurricanes in

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the most hurricane you know, Staate an Erica

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<v Speaker 6>pro area. This is not a surprise. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 6>this was going to happen. I mean, they have not

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<v Speaker 6>planned for this at all. As you said, they've spent

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<v Speaker 6>the money you know, on illegal immigrants, on foreign aid,

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<v Speaker 6>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the part that would just be absolutely devastating

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<v Speaker 2>for US citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that, I mean, there's some examples, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about on this program before New York City

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<v Speaker 2>gave debit cards to illegal migrants where they were getting

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent more money from the government as illegals than

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<v Speaker 2>low income earners or elderly people who were accessing government.

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<v Speaker 1>Money intellectans in America in California for their country legals

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<v Speaker 1>were being given gender reassignment surgery paid for by American.

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<v Speaker 2>Taxpayers in Portland, and Portland was just one of many

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<v Speaker 2>places where illegals were being put up in hotels by

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayer. Then you've got the taxpayers whose homes have

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<v Speaker 2>been destroyed and there's no money left to help them

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all been spent on everything from hotels to

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<v Speaker 2>gender reassignment surgery for people who should never have been

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<v Speaker 2>in the country in the first place. And you raised

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<v Speaker 2>a great point about government because we often talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we need smaller government, smaller government, but if

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<v Speaker 2>there's ever a case for saying we need the government

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and take control, it's in the event

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<v Speaker 2>of a natural disaster, because corporations are there for profit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're not the best people in this instance.

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<v Speaker 4>You need government who come in.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not trying to make a profit, they're just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help, and when you need them, they're absently.

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<v Speaker 6>And let me tell you, the same thing is happening

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<v Speaker 6>in the UK where there will be civil war because

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 6>immigrants coming into the country are going straight to the

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<v Speaker 6>front of the queue that is like community housing. While

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<v Speaker 6>UK citizens who are born and bred their whole lives

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.919
<v Speaker 6>in the UK are missing out and community housing and

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<v Speaker 6>they're angry. And governments really need to see this, and

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<v Speaker 6>Australians need to see this, you know, like we're in

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<v Speaker 6>such a fortunate position where things play out overseas and

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<v Speaker 6>yet we don't seem to learn from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we've got some vision of Kamala. Howis

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<v Speaker 2>she visited some of the devastated communities, and that will

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<v Speaker 2>show finally vision there she is wandering through, see how

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<v Speaker 2>she's interacting with the locals.

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<v Speaker 3>Liz, This administration, though, has been completely m Ia.

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<v Speaker 7>This is almost a.

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<v Speaker 3>Week after the fact she previously said, Oh no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go to Georgia. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to North Carolina because.

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<v Speaker 7>I just be in the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually a pertinent point if you're Kamala Harris, I mean,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 3>what else are you good for? But here she is

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<v Speaker 3>finally doing the photo op, the awkward walk through. Half

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<v Speaker 3>the time, their lips aren't even moving, they're just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gesticulating it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, let's make some reels for the news. But this

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 7>has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Such an incredible opportunity for once again the Trump campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Days previous was already on the ground in Georgia. Here's

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<v Speaker 3>a short clip of Trump giving his condolences to the

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<v Speaker 3>families who have lost lives. Over one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>people are deceased due to this hurricane, and also promising aid.

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 10>It was hospitals, highways, and cars have been plunged underwater.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 10>Entire neighbors have been turned into lakes. Nobody's seen anything

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 10>like it. And every family that's been displaced here in

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<v Speaker 10>Georgia and North Carolina, who which has really been had

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<v Speaker 10>We're going there also, and they don't have communication. They

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<v Speaker 10>don't have any thing right now that we're trying to.

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<v Speaker 10>I just spoke to Elon. I'm getting him. We want

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<v Speaker 10>to get starlink hooked up because they have no communication whatsoever.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 10>And Elon will always come through, we know that, and

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<v Speaker 10>so we're working on that getting them hooked up. They

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<v Speaker 10>asked me whether or not that would be possible. We're

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<v Speaker 10>going to try and get the starlink in there as

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<v Speaker 10>soon as possible because they have no communication.

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<v Speaker 7>So the actual.

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<v Speaker 3>Biden administration no one on the ground for days and days.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump wasted no time in making his way to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 3>which is where he was making that speech, and also

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration tried to take credit for the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that on now we're getting thirty star link whatever they

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<v Speaker 3>call those things. They're like little they don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be plugged into the communications. They're like satellites that work

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 3>all by themselves, giving people access to the Internet so

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<v Speaker 3>that they can use.

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<v Speaker 7>Their phone and computers.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, Elon's tweeting about the fact that he and Trump

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<v Speaker 3>were the ones who were organizing this, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>already sending these starlinks to North Carolina and Elston Elon Musk.

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's not forget he's also bailing out Boeing by rescuing

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>US astronauts from out of space where they've been stranded.

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 2>But Musk to the rescue. Is there nothing this man

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<v Speaker 2>cannot do? But there's some other interesting questions about this

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 2>quick Well.

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<v Speaker 6>I was just looking at that and just said, which

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<v Speaker 6>kind of forgets she's not the president.

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<v Speaker 5>I know she's on a campaign, but she's not the president.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, by the president of the United States, where is

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 6>he giving that, you know, seven hundred and fifty dollars announcement?

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he even realized that was a bit too pitiful

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 5>and didn't want to do it, but we kind of

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<v Speaker 5>forget that.

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<v Speaker 6>I get she's in in campaign mode and so they're

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 6>putting her forward to make these announcements, but she is

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<v Speaker 6>not the sitting president, and the country needs to see

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 6>the sitting president.

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<v Speaker 5>Where is he?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was sitting on the beach and they said,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do? He said, We've been on the phone,

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>as if sitting on.

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<v Speaker 4>The beach in Delaware the phone.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I've got it all under control, showing compassion and care

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>for US citizens. This is quite incredible, and you're right,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris has forgotten that she is in office at

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 2>the moment, pretending like she hasn't been responsible at all,

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and she continues to be irresponsible. Let's go to let's

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>stay in America for a moment. There's an incredible story

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia where a Christian teacher was fired from his

0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>job because he refused to address a biological female student

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>using male pronouns. Peter Vlaming was a French teacher at

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<v Speaker 2>West Point High School and one of his students transitioned.

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<v Speaker 4>From female to male.

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<v Speaker 2>So, in trying to stay true to truth and to biology,

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<v Speaker 2>he decided, I'm not going to use the wrong pronouns

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<v Speaker 2>for this girl. I'm not going to call her a

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<v Speaker 2>he or a hymn, but neither do I want to offend,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll simply use the child's name.

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<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when he explained to the child, who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to know why out you using he and him, the

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 2>parents got in contact with the teacher and said, leave

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>your beliefs, leave your principles at the door. You must

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<v Speaker 2>address our son using the proper pronouns. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>school came to him, requiring him to sign a written

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<v Speaker 2>document agreeing that he would use the preferred pronouns, which

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<v Speaker 2>he said he could not do.

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<v Speaker 4>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wrongfully fired from my teaching job because my

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<v Speaker 2>religious beliefs put me on a collision course with school

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>administrators who mandated that teachers ascribed to only one perspective

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<v Speaker 2>on gender identity, their preferred view. I loved teaching French

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<v Speaker 2>and gracefully tried to accommodate every student in my class,

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<v Speaker 2>but I couldn't say something that directly violated my conscience.

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<v Speaker 2>He took the school to court, and incidentally, he won

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<v Speaker 2>on appeal five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in damages.

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<v Speaker 2>But according to his complaint in the court case, mister

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<v Speaker 2>Lemming's conscience and religious practice prohibits him from intentionally lying,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and he sincerely believes that referring to a female as

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a male by using an objectively male pronoun is telling

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a lie. Now, as I said, he won the court case.

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<v Speaker 2>He won a significant amount of money. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>guy you want teaching your kids.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't win because he was factually and scientifically true.

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<v Speaker 2>He won because of his religious beliefs. The court ruled

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<v Speaker 2>that his religious freedom had been violated by the school

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<v Speaker 2>mandating he had to speak in a particular way.

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<v Speaker 4>So lucky he was a Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, I'm not sure what argument he would have had

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<v Speaker 2>since we've decided biology is no longer an argument.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one wonders if he weren't a Christian and again

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<v Speaker 3>was simply refusing to lie. I mean, you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to be a Christian to recognize biological sex is. There's

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>plenty of secular people who believe that just as much,

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<v Speaker 3>though they may not have as much conviction around it

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>and aren't going to pursue matters in court. But certainly,

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>if they were fired, who knows what they would do.

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<v Speaker 3>This story made me remember Enoch Burke, who has spent

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred days in prison and just last month went

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<v Speaker 3>to prison for.

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<v Speaker 7>The third time.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a teacher in Ireland who similarly refused to

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<v Speaker 3>refer to a student by them pronouns and just kept

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<v Speaker 3>rocking up at work because, as he kept pointing out,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still on the payroll. They keep paying me, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm rocking up to do my job. It is incredible

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>that certainly Ireland doesn't recognize similar rights, because his argument

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 3>is exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 7>He is a religious man, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Refuses to use they then pronouns. This student is either

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>a he or she I can't remember, and yet he's

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>spent four one hundred days in jail. Yes, ladies and gentlemen,

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 3>this is the world we are living in now, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's still in jail.

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<v Speaker 5>As far as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, when you said that the teacher was calling

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<v Speaker 6>the student by their name, their preferred name, right, he

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 6>was gracious enough to actually say, if you want to

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 6>go by a different name, I will call you by

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 6>that name. When he sat down and had a meeting,

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 6>which he said he thought went very well with his student.

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 6>It wasnt until later that he got this phone call

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 6>and it was just a matter of pronouns. And I

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 6>don't actually know how many times you need to use

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 6>someone's pronoun when you're teaching a class, you know, if

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 6>you're just referring to someone by their first name.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't even think he did missgender.

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 6>It did come up as an issue, but obviously he

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 6>refused to sign that agreement and stuck to his convictions.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 6>And ironically, on a lighter note, I do think it's

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 6>rather funny that he was, you know, a teacher, a

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 6>scholar of the French language, and French take their language

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 6>very very seriously, where literally every single object la pen

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 6>is feminine or masculine.

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 5>It's binary and after.

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 6>The word when a couple of years ago the French

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 6>language had to come up with a new word, okay,

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 6>they had to invent a non binary word pronoum really

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 6>have one, and the member of parliament in French said

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 6>that the way forward is not this way for our language,

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 6>and they were in uproar that their.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 5>Dictionary included it.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, he's got the French in him, and

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 6>he's you know, am a Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>While we've got you with us on the late debate.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a child psychologist.

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<v Speaker 4>So did he handle it well?

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything he could have done better to both

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>maintain his Christian beliefs and look after the welfare of

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 2>this child.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if.

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 6>There's an answer to that, actually, and I don't. I

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 6>think he did everything he could have done. He said

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 6>he did it graciously.

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 5>I think he did.

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 6>I think sitting down and explaining his sight, he didn't

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 6>bereat the student. He didn't say that they were, you know, silly,

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 6>or if it was nonsense, and you know, he did

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 6>what he could to say, this is where i'll meet you,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 6>and I.

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 5>Will call you by your preferred name.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 6>My concern of what I see in my clinical practice

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 6>is actually teachers starting to refer to students by their

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 6>preferred pronouns or their preferred name without the permission of parents. Yeah,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 6>and I see that, And that is more worrying that

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 6>it's our parents.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 5>And I know parents who have found out after a.

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 6>Term or two a school when they turn up at

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 6>a parent teacher interview and that the teachers are referring

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 6>to their daughter as a head. Well, hang on a second,

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 6>we had no idea about this and we never gave permission.

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<v Speaker 4>That is alarming, incredible, all right.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of alarming, people in Chatswood, New South Wales are

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 2>alarmed because a McDonald's has applied to offer twenty four

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>hour in store dining and they say this is going

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to absolutely destroy the tranquility of Chatswood. Residents are up

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 2>in arms and so angry that will it be. Counsels

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>said to McDonald's, look, you can have your new eight

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.720
<v Speaker 2>million dollar store, but you have to shut down indoor

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>dining at ten pm.

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<v Speaker 4>After ten o'clock it's drived through.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Only listen to some of the arguments that chat residents

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>made against twenty four in store dining. Resident Sean Feritis

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>was among opponents who wrote to the council arguing the

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>store could lead to quote increased noise levels due to

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>car movements, customer interactions and the general buzz.

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Of activity which is a little vague, but listen to

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 4>this one.

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Another local, Jessica Whitebourne, complained the semi industrial location of

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.320
<v Speaker 2>the store on Smith Street could provide would be criminals

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 2>a dark playground of industrial units and streets in which

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>to do as they please. But my favorite argument against

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>this twenty four hour McDonald's is from Zoe Hart, who

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 2>said the impact on the health of residents was another

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>sticking point for locals, arguing that the store could quote

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<v Speaker 2>contribute to Australia's growing obesity and health crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>Now just let me understand this argument.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go through the drive through, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to affect ABC levels in Australia. But indoor die after

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<v Speaker 2>ten pm, I'll tell you what people will be stacking

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<v Speaker 2>on the weight list.

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<v Speaker 7>Didn't you know it's calorie free. It's calorie free if

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<v Speaker 7>you get it in drive through the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah lutely, it's all about hours because if you eat

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.399
<v Speaker 3>things closer to bedtime, it's in your system longer and

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>you get fatter. So Claire Zoe Heart rather you're giving

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 3>her a bit of a bad run there. There is

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<v Speaker 3>some science to what she's the hour that you eat

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<v Speaker 3>it count.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, north Shore peeps like it. It's macas.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 6>It's not, you know, the troublesome activity that's taking place.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 5>It's not an outlaw bike above for God's sake.

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 4>That's what it's going to become.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to become a criminal underground, playground of criminal

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 2>activity on that note. We're going to go to a break,

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<v Speaker 2>but when we come back, we'll look at the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't believe how many potholes every day they're having

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<v Speaker 2>to repair in Victoria. It's an astonishing number. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that in a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back. Let's take a look at what's making news tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the Herald's sun and potholes are the big story.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we've teased it to death and now you're

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<v Speaker 3>about to find out the actual digits.

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<v Speaker 7>How many are they fixing in Victoria? Well wonder no more.

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<v Speaker 7>Exclusive repair queues.

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<v Speaker 3>Repair Crewise otherwise known as repair Cruise forced to fill

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>seven hundred potholes a day. I med record drop in

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 3>vital upgrades on crumbling road system.

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<v Speaker 7>Whole lot of strife.

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 3>The splash reads Victorian repair crews are being forced to

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<v Speaker 3>feel almost seven hundred potholes a day across the state's

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<v Speaker 3>crumbling road network amid a record drop.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the same as the exclusive splash.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm disappointed.

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<v Speaker 3>We bought the total number of potholes filled over the

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<v Speaker 3>past five years to an estimated one point two five million.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a heck of a lot of potholes.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's in the pothole filling industry, because you guys are

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<v Speaker 3>in a well fed paddock Victoria right now.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty one, the Victorian Orditor General's Office said

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent of Victoria's roads were in a quote very

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<v Speaker 2>poor condition. That was up from eleven percent ten years earlier.

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 2>But that was when they filled seventy one thousand, five

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>hundred potholes.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 4>So now they're.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Filling two hundred and twenty thousand last over left.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 4>He's got a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>World, but were you're literally swerving in a single lane

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to not fall down and disappear into a whole.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 4>That's just incredible. But it just goes to show.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we pas fortune for car registration tolls, fuel excises.

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<v Speaker 4>Where's our money going road repairs? I'll tell you those

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 4>keep pulling into disrepair.

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<v Speaker 6>I just diod a story on the Victorian government issuing

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<v Speaker 6>a paper about how librarians need to check with five

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 6>year olds on their gender preferences.

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<v Speaker 5>First, that's where it's got.

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<v Speaker 7>That's important tax payer money well or events.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a revital to a flourishing society. Ladies

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and gentlemen staying on the front page of the Herald

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<v Speaker 3>Sun frontline cops down and out. Victoria police vacancys have

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<v Speaker 3>surged to more than one thousand, with the latest force

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 3>figures revealing there are twenty two more unfilled positions now

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 3>then on June thirtieth this year. They're saying this is

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<v Speaker 3>due to a wave of retirements and a slowing in

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<v Speaker 3>the number of recruits graduating. So I would also like

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 3>to say it's probably got something to do with the

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>fact that they fired a bunch of them when they

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 3>refused to be vaccinated during the pandemic and stood up

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 3>for their bodily autonomy. But the roosters are coming home

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 3>to roost, that's a thing. It's so Thursday night here

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>on the Late Debate ladies, that the chickens are coming

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 3>up to FoST. Well, you know, I would never have

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 3>known it was a rugby league thing, So anyway, this

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 3>would also I would whenever I read.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 7>These, I always think that if I was a Krim, i'd.

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Be reading this with great int to be like.

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<v Speaker 5>So the fall.

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<v Speaker 3>Since you're telling me the lines are thin, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a Victorian issue.

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 2>In South Australia, they've lost two hundred and twenty seven

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 2>police in the last twelve months, while recruiting only two

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighteen. So the problem is not just recruiting,

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 2>but it's retention. And you can say, well, they lost

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>two twenty seven, they recruited to eighteen, all's good, but

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 2>don't forget these to eighteen that have been recruited. They're cadets,

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 2>so they've got zero experience. They've got to be trained.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.919
<v Speaker 2>It's all that expenditure, and then you can only gain

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 2>experience by being in the job. So even if you're

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>replacing them one for one, you're still worse all.

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 6>And the dropout rate is huge from not just retiring

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 6>after a full career, but after the ten fifteen year

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 6>career on burnout.

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 5>It's huge.

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 6>And I actually misread that list to Victoria Police vaccines

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 6>have searched, and I went, what what vacancies have searched?

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Not vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the front page of Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 4>Mad Monday is the headline.

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, that's a part on Mad Monday that the

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 2>AFL teams are all doing at the moment end of

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 2>season dress ups. But this of course refers to something

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>a little more sinister. Fury at pro Palestine vigil to

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>commemorate October seven. I don't know how pro Palestinians are

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 2>commemorating October seven, since that was the day twelve hundred

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Jews were killed. A pro Palestine candlelit vigil planned for

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the anniversary of October seven will still go ahead on Monday,

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 2>despite organizergreeing in court not to hold a march on

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that day. So there were two developments today being reported

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in tomorrow's paper. The first is that a pro Palestinian

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>march will take place in Sydney on Sunday. Police were

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 2>trying to stop it but then agreed with organizers that

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>provided the march didn't go directly past the Great Synagogue,

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it would be permitted. Personally, I can't understand how they

0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 2>can permit a march that's been demonstrated to not prevent

0:41:57.960 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>people from waving flags supporting Hezblaa, registered terrorist organization and

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.439
<v Speaker 2>holding pictures of a terrorist leader as if he's some

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>sort of iconic figure. When it comes to Monday, which

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 2>is October seven, the protesters wanted to have a march,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 2>but then they said no, no, we're not going to

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 2>do a march, and everybody thought Okay, well, thank god

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 2>common sense has finally come to the fore. But what

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they've decided is instead of doing a march, which they

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>need a permit for, they're going to have a static

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>visual which they don't require a permit for. So that

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 2>will still take place on Monday, much to our authorities

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and our leaders.

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<v Speaker 4>Shame Claire. You've got the mercury.

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 6>The mercury down in Tasmania and the headliners still on

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 6>the menu. I feel like I'm a little invested in

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 6>this story, but it says salmon stockers and restauranteurs hold

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<v Speaker 6>the line despite new protest tactics. Antisman activists have launched

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 6>protest outside grocery stores, supermarkets and restaurants, provoking the ire

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 6>of Tasmanian Hospitality Association CEO, who says the behavior will

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 6>have a dentrial.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.840
<v Speaker 5>Impact, detrimential impact on businesses.

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 6>So these guys are protesting against salmon farming. I think

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 6>it may affect other wildlife, other fishes, other.

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Fish, fishes, fish.

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 6>I just want to know those fish tastier than salmon,

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 6>you know, smoked salmon, sashimi, poach, give me my sage.

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 7>Okay, do I really care? Do we really?

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm just yeah, I love my salmon.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about this is they're protesting outside grocery stores, supermarkets

0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>and restaurants. I was at a restaurant in Melbourne on

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the Yarra and I'm having a steak or whatever as.

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 7>Animal salmon steak.

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 4>No, no, it was just.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>A regular beef and PETA the Animal rights organization. They

0:43:55.600 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 2>were literally protesting right adjacent to where diners, including my

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 2>good self, are trying to enjoy a guilt free piece

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>of steak. And they're holding up, you know, pictures of cowc.

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 5>It's been made like it's half gone, you're eating it.

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 5>It's like what, It's a bit laid.

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<v Speaker 2>On the food chain to be I didn't really care,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>but I felt for the restaurants. It's hard enough to

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 2>make a dollar at the moment without animal rights activists

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>standing outside your restaurant holding up pictures of animals looking

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 2>sad as dinas survey the menu and think maybe I'm

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 2>going to have just a salad.

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<v Speaker 7>Good to the front page of the os Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Origin pulls the plug on hydrogen project. Origin Energy is

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 3>abandoning its ambitious plans to develop hydrogen, striking another blow

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>to the Albanezy government's dreams for the energy source to

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 3>help drive the transmission to net zero. The article goes

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 3>on to see the corporate retreat follows the decision by

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 3>billionaire Andrew Forrest to scale back his own green hydrogen

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 3>targets earlier this year, in a major business back down

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>that coincided with the loss of seven hundred jobs at

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 3>his flagship company for Tesque terrible news for the alban

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Easy government.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 7>We already knew that your targets were bs and.

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.399
<v Speaker 3>No one was ever going to reach them, but now

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the people responsible for making them happen in real time

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>are pulling the plugs simultaneously.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean, this is kind of glorious.

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And headlines like this right as Peter Dutton is about

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 2>to detail his nuclear policy will just be gold for

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 2>the opposition because to see the government's renewable energy dreams

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>fall to the ground just enables him to make his

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 2>case fun or powerful.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, this is just evidence as well that the big

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 6>companies and people like Twiggy, they're not in it.

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.360
<v Speaker 5>For environmental reasons. They're enough for profit.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry to burst that bubble, right, and so when

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 6>the hypeer's going off it, I mean they're smart people

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 6>they're not stupid, and when they don't.

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 5>See the profit there, they start retruting. That's just what's.

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Happening, absolutely to the second splash on the front of

0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 3>the Oars vehicle emissions loop all for raw.

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:10.520
<v Speaker 7>Some of the.

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Highest polluting cars in Australia are set to be excluded

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 3>from Labour's vehicle emissions regime over the next few years,

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 3>with car retailers blaming the loophole on Anthony Albanesi's rush,

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 3>rushing the process to set up a scheme to slash

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the carbon footprint of the transport sector.

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 7>So slashing the carbon.

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Footprint, but not for the people who did your betting

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 3>and got e These got it.

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And the reason for this is the government are trying

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to rush through all this legislation and whether it relates

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to vehicle emissions, whether it relates to the problems we're

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 2>seeing with We talked the other night about wind turbines

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 2>in Victoria and they're really worried that none of them

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>are fire safe and that we're coming to bush fire

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>season and the Victorian government, oh, we didn't think about that.

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And we could name dozens of examples where the gun

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>has rushed these things through without thinking about potential consequences.

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Here's just another example.

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just one hit after another when it comes to

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the government's renewable dreams. We're going to go to a

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 2>break when we come back. Traffic signs featuring the image

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump are appearing all around New York City,

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 2>and no one knows why.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.240
<v Speaker 4>We'll show you that in just a second.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So images of Donald Trump have begun mysteriously appearing

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 2>right throughout New York City as traffic signs have Look

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 2>at this vision. As you drive through different neighborhoods in

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>New York, Trump signs are appearing.

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 4>All over the road.

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Now my only take on this, Claire and Liz is

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that it must indicate it's a safe area. I haven't

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 2>seen any Camala signs yet, but I imagine that would be

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like warning word, sellar ahead or something like that. It

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of the bat signal in Gotham City.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it because this is like a not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>dead red area. So exactly, this guy either has a

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<v Speaker 3>death where she's probably done it under the cover of night,

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<v Speaker 3>much like Batman would, but so far no graffiti. So

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<v Speaker 3>two thumbs up from us before we leave you tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>the Libs are telling us that they are going to

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<v Speaker 3>oppose this Combating Misinformation Disinformation Bill that the Labor government

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<v Speaker 3>has put up, although we all remember that it's in

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<v Speaker 3>fact the brainchild of a liberal government and if they

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<v Speaker 3>want us to believe them, they might want.

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<v Speaker 7>To check their Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 3>Website, which still reads quote, a re elected coalition government

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<v Speaker 3>will introduce new laws to provide the AKMA with stronger

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<v Speaker 3>enforcement and information gathering powers to hold big tech companies

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<v Speaker 3>to account for harmful misinformation and disinformation online.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, that sounds pretty much like the bill, you guys,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got an entire page on their website dedicated to

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<v Speaker 3>how they're going to combat fake news. So I'm finding

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<v Speaker 3>it very hard to believe them at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, since it was the former Communications Minister under a

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal government, Scott Morrison's Paul Fletcher who came up with

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<v Speaker 2>the idea brainchild, I think they still have a soft

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<v Speaker 2>spot for a little bit of censorship.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it from us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go now, but stick around. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>is the Riata peneheshow