Speaker 1: Hi, it's podcast time for Show and Tell. It's Mala Monty. Welcome.
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Speaker 1: Answering for everyone, it is Mela Monte. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: I hope you're great. Hey, I want to play. I
Speaker 1: want to start off with something. Now we've nearly forgotten
Speaker 1: your facts. You've got to start with the fact every time.
Speaker 1: And I realized last episode we didn't. I know.
Speaker 2: Well, this is a real quickie. Beetlejuice the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one of my old time favorite. It's a great movie.
Speaker 2: Do you know despite playing the title role of Beetlejuice himself,
Speaker 2: Michael Keaton only had seventeen minutes of screen time in
Speaker 2: that whole movie.
Speaker 1: Really hazy, that is so amazing. I re ah, yeah, random,
Speaker 1: I reckon. I've only seen Beetlejuice maybe once. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I've seen it all the way through.
Speaker 2: That is a sit down and watch with the kids.
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, I have been begging my daughter for
Speaker 2: years to sit down and watch Empire Records with me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my favorite movie or when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, my favorite movie Orange. I got Orange. I
Speaker 1: love it so much.
Speaker 2: Well, I kept assuring her it hasn't dated, it'll be
Speaker 2: so good. It has dated all the day. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's still great, but there's bits where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I remember that dialogue being so much better, and watching
Speaker 2: it now I'm like, h is it a bit cringey?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so. It's why you're almost better
Speaker 1: off not going back and rewatching them Rex Morris Day
Speaker 1: and I still remember livet oh Rex Manning. I still
Speaker 1: remember Liv Tyler's undies, like the daggy undies she had
Speaker 1: when you got her down, so staggy daggy. I remember
Speaker 1: thinking she's better undies, but that showed her character. She
Speaker 1: was just a bit of a talk true.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: So that's so cute. Well, okay, interesting beetlejuice fact. There
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, absolutely, no way to seguay to the
Speaker 1: next thing, which is about friendship. I wanted to. This
Speaker 1: came up in my Instagram feed the other day and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's really interesting because it's so true.
Speaker 1: So Amy Poehler was sitting down and doing a podcast
Speaker 1: with Katherine Hahn. So Catherine is a comedian. She was
Speaker 1: in parks and recreation a bucket load of other stuff
Speaker 1: as well. But they were talking about friendships and the
Speaker 1: importance of female friendships, so I wanted to play you this.
Speaker 2: Out of female friendships importantly you what do they do
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 3: I think that the real female friends that I have,
Speaker 3: the deep ones, are fewer than I thought I would have,
Speaker 3: like the ones that are really you know, have your
Speaker 3: back through anything, And there's a difference like these. It's
Speaker 3: so important to have women in your life that aren't family,
Speaker 3: to grow old with in a way that it's, like
Speaker 3: you said, feels very honest and also hilarious, but also
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like we have to keep up anything together,
Speaker 3: like keep up any sort of like front. It just
Speaker 3: feels like and also very affirming, like to walk into
Speaker 3: these next chapters together.
Speaker 1: It just feels like it's not as terrifying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: loved that. I also thought of you during it, because
Speaker 1: I know your sister's your main person. So when she
Speaker 1: said you need people outside of your family, are you like,
Speaker 1: don't know about that?
Speaker 2: I feel like my sister is absolutely my very best
Speaker 2: friend out of everybody in the world.
Speaker 1: So beautiful. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is I've always got like seven
Speaker 2: things I'm thinking and I don't know which point to
Speaker 2: get to first. I feel like I think beautiful friendships
Speaker 2: will always like you have each other's back, you want
Speaker 2: the best for each other. But I trust her in
Speaker 2: a way that I could never trust a friend. I
Speaker 2: have a feeling like she always always wants the best
Speaker 2: for me. She will give me hard advice even if
Speaker 2: it's going to hurt my feelings, and I know that
Speaker 2: there's no other factor there. It's all love, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do remember saying that to Stace once, and she
Speaker 2: said to me, because I was saying how I feel
Speaker 2: guilty that I haven't given my daughter that experience because
Speaker 2: it's been so important to me. But she said to me,
Speaker 2: but that's like Katie and Monty and I are like that,
Speaker 2: That's what it's like. It's just you don't know the difference. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like the sister, you're seeing
Speaker 2: it through that lens. But when you don't have a sister, yes,
Speaker 2: or you're not super close to your sister or whatever,
Speaker 2: you find that in friendship. Yeah, right, And I thought
Speaker 2: that's probably so true, Like I've never let myself completely
Speaker 2: be open to that, yes.
Speaker 1: Just because you've always had your sister there. So Stacy
Speaker 1: and I, well, I did have sisters, though Stacey didn't
Speaker 1: have sisters, she only had brothers. But my older sister
Speaker 1: and I were never close, and our relationship has formed
Speaker 1: because of the bond over our boys. But Stacy was
Speaker 1: always and is always my Like, I know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: in the world I couldn't do that I could do
Speaker 1: where she would turn her back on me. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like even if I fucked her husband, she'd go, well,
Speaker 1: that was a shit thing to do, and she'd still
Speaker 1: be there, Like I feel how you think about your sister,
Speaker 1: about her hands down, and the same the hard advice,
Speaker 1: the tough advice, so like you're being a dickhead, pull
Speaker 1: your head in, or like there's never an ounce of
Speaker 1: jealousy between us. It's pure celebration for each other.
Speaker 2: Yes, Also, like you and Stacy are very different, very different,
Speaker 2: which makes it even the connection even better because there
Speaker 2: is no not that there would be Like if she
Speaker 2: wanted to get into radio or whatever, I don't think
Speaker 2: there'd be competition, but it would be maybe a little
Speaker 2: bit more complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah, we've always had different Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess interests and stuff. I mean, we created a
Speaker 1: business together, but we had extremely separate roles, but we
Speaker 1: never shit each other either. When she's quite amazing, it's
Speaker 1: like I can't remember the last time where I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're fucking annoying, Like it's quite It is a really
Speaker 1: rare relationship, I think.
Speaker 2: And I think maybe one of those things is because
Speaker 2: it was formed in childhood. Yeah, so if you know
Speaker 2: all that shit about each other, you know how to
Speaker 2: operate with each other. She knows when to pull back
Speaker 2: and give you space. You know when to do the
Speaker 2: same for her. It's like, yeah, totally like sisters, really.
Speaker 1: Totally, And that's what we've always said. It's like we
Speaker 1: are like, you know, I've always been her sister that
Speaker 1: she's never had, and she's always been like a sister
Speaker 1: to me. I think a lot of people do have
Speaker 1: beautiful friendships like that. I also feel like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of females that don't. And I always feel sad
Speaker 1: for people who don't have that close friend or they'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is you know, especially when we
Speaker 1: were a bit younger, this is my best friend, and
Speaker 1: then you realize they met six months ago. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like just to have those really deep, long friendships
Speaker 1: and I don't have friendships from like primary school. Like
Speaker 1: I'm still friendly with some like if I saw them,
Speaker 1: it would be lovely, but I don't keep in touch.
Speaker 1: I know my oldest friend, we were friends from our
Speaker 1: parents when we were like six years old. I'm still
Speaker 1: really good friends with her. But yeah, Stace and I
Speaker 1: were sixteen when we became buddies, and it was like
Speaker 1: that crucial age where we were navigating you know, boys
Speaker 1: and having sex for the first time and you know,
Speaker 1: all of that kind of stuff. And Stace was always
Speaker 1: my moral compass, Like I feel like compass. I feel
Speaker 1: like without her, I don't know where I would have gone,
Speaker 1: to be honest, And.
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about my sister. But the
Speaker 2: beauty with Stace as well day appreciation. But she does
Speaker 2: have a very strong moral compass, but it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like it's in a judgy way. And she will give
Speaker 2: you her opinion and tell you what she think thinks
Speaker 2: is best, but she'll support you if you go the
Speaker 2: other way as well totally.
Speaker 1: But usually you'll find her opinion is right too. That's
Speaker 1: what I've always know. Oh, what you think can say
Speaker 1: is usually right. She's very wise. Yes, so it was
Speaker 1: always like she was the mature one, and I would
Speaker 1: try and corrupt her a bit, but I was like,
Speaker 1: never has she had a cigarette or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I'll never do that. And even you know when kids
Speaker 1: are smoking and stuff, you experiment, no chance, just like no,
Speaker 1: so unapologetically her. So I think that I got confidence
Speaker 1: from her as well, which I think is important in
Speaker 1: female friendships as well. But I also agree with as
Speaker 1: you get older, you have less friendships that are that
Speaker 1: close as well.
Speaker 2: So many less because well like there's less time. If
Speaker 2: you get into a relationship or have kids or whatever,
Speaker 2: your time is limited. So but to there's I think
Speaker 2: there's something in like I prefer it being less now,
Speaker 2: Like I can count on one hand the friends I
Speaker 2: have that I would call in a time of need,
Speaker 2: and that I could say the worst things about myself too,
Speaker 2: and I can be completely vulnerable with I would say
Speaker 2: you are one of them. We have had hard conversations before,
Speaker 2: and we are similar in many ways, but we're very
Speaker 2: different in other ways. But there's I think the freedom
Speaker 2: in good friendships comes when you feel like you can
Speaker 2: say something to another person and they're not going to
Speaker 2: judge you for it or they're going to understand, like
Speaker 2: you can be vulnerable. So I can say to you,
Speaker 2: I feel I don't know, like I feel intimidated by
Speaker 2: this or I feel whatever, yes, and I feel like, well,
Speaker 2: there'll be understanding there, and you're not going to use
Speaker 2: it again. She won't use it against.
Speaker 1: Me, no, or not even that almost not having to
Speaker 1: explain yourself so much Like I had beautiful friendships, but
Speaker 1: if I was to call up and be like, I'm
Speaker 1: so fucked at the moment, blah blah blah, it would
Speaker 1: be a concern of a different level because they don't
Speaker 1: know the intricacies and yeah, the little bit's not Like
Speaker 1: if I called Stacy, she would know I'm okay, I'm
Speaker 1: just having a rough day, and she won't be overly
Speaker 1: dramatic about it, or I won't have to explain every detail.
Speaker 1: So then I know that doesn't make a huge amount
Speaker 1: of sense. But I'm just thinking, because I share so
Speaker 1: much with her, there's an ease she can ran she
Speaker 1: can read me, where a lot of my other friends
Speaker 1: I would have to explain it all and go, don't worry,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, but I'm really having a really fucking bad time.
Speaker 1: And then I would feel like they would maybe go
Speaker 1: to another friend and go, oh my god, is Monte
Speaker 1: okay if you heard what's going on where Stacy wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to do that. She could just handle it all
Speaker 1: herself because she knows the ins and outs of everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very is the word pragmatic? I think that's
Speaker 2: one of you. She's like she can just this is
Speaker 2: the situation and she just deals with what is in
Speaker 2: front of her. It's I think you.
Speaker 1: Need one of those in a friendship. Otherwise it's drama.
Speaker 1: Like Sam's very much like that. Like you know, when
Speaker 1: you and I were having our little heated thing the
Speaker 1: other week, I was talking to Sam about it and
Speaker 1: he was basically like, pull your head in, you know,
Speaker 1: like could make me see your side better than I
Speaker 1: could see it in my state.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so that's what you need.
Speaker 1: Somebody is pulling you down, going no, it's very reasonable
Speaker 1: what they're saying, or just yeah, somebody bringing you back
Speaker 1: down and stripping through the emotion.
Speaker 2: So you can just see the facts. That's what you
Speaker 2: need in a good friend. And that's also someone who
Speaker 2: really loves you. Yeah, who can do that, Because like
Speaker 2: we talked about, we always talk about celebrities, right, and
Speaker 2: how they're surrounded by yes people, that's what they're missing.
Speaker 2: They don't have that.
Speaker 1: Person no, because all of their friends are on the books.
Speaker 1: It's really sad. You think, oh, look at the life
Speaker 1: that they live, but they really can't know who their
Speaker 1: good mates are unless they were good friends before they
Speaker 1: became famous. Like you get why they're closed off and
Speaker 1: just unsure because it's like, how would you know, especially
Speaker 1: if you're getting paid and none of them are going
Speaker 1: to go, well, I'm going to risk my pay job
Speaker 1: to tell you you're being a fucking idiot, Like none
Speaker 1: of them do that.
Speaker 2: It's only happened one other time, I think. But we
Speaker 2: had words with each other recently, right, which to me
Speaker 2: is like important. I think it's important to do that
Speaker 2: every now and then.
Speaker 1: Well we've also worked together for over ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like there's going to be stuff, of course,
Speaker 2: But you know, I've realized I don't know if this
Speaker 2: will make sense to anybody else. This stage of my life.
Speaker 2: I feel very out of control right in so many ways,
Speaker 2: like the way I'm thinking, like I just feel out
Speaker 2: of control with everything. So I'm finding that I'm becoming
Speaker 2: controlling or overly. I hate when people say, oh, you're
Speaker 2: so OCD, because I don't mean it in a trivial way.
Speaker 2: But like even when I'm working, like I have another
Speaker 2: job other than this, and I find myself like going
Speaker 2: over and over and trying to perfect things that I
Speaker 2: know rationally no one else can see. But I'm becoming
Speaker 2: like I don't even know what the word is other
Speaker 2: than to say compulsive about it and controlling because I
Speaker 2: feel like I have no control in these other spaces.
Speaker 2: That that's what I'm holding on too, to the detriment
Speaker 2: of everyone else, but also.
Speaker 1: To yourself as well. It's like exhausting, but I feel
Speaker 1: that too. It is, and again we do go on
Speaker 1: about it a bit, but that's definitely your hormones knowing
Speaker 1: fucking nuts too. But I also think we get as
Speaker 1: we get old and more set now, like that would
Speaker 1: have been bubbling when you were younger, and it just
Speaker 1: gets more and more set as we get older, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But it's also.
Speaker 1: Really frustrating when you're aware of stuff like that, Like
Speaker 1: if you weren't aware, it would just be a life.
Speaker 1: I hate that I'm uber aware of my mental health
Speaker 1: and meet too, and stuff like that. Like recently, I
Speaker 1: can hear myself being such a downer that even around
Speaker 1: Sam now there's a form of acting going on because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't keep doing this. This is not
Speaker 1: fair on him, This is not fair on the people
Speaker 1: around me for me to be to be glass half
Speaker 1: empty the same. I feel out of control almost like
Speaker 1: of my mood of like where I'm at in my life,
Speaker 1: like my kids, Like I know a lot of it
Speaker 1: is the stage that we're at, like we are midlife now,
Speaker 1: so it's like a form of a crisis that has
Speaker 1: to be And every woman I speak to who is
Speaker 1: my a is hands down going through the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll admit something too, that's terrible. I hate myself
Speaker 2: for saying it because there's nobody I love more in
Speaker 2: my life than my family, right, Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 2: just always want to be on my own. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: how I feel, just because I'm aware of I'm a
Speaker 2: punish all the time. And also I'm like some days
Speaker 2: I'll be like I feel okay today, but I feel
Speaker 2: okay because I've been alone, yes, and then as soon
Speaker 2: as something happens, I'm like, fuck, and I tried like,
Speaker 2: don't overreact, don't overreact, but I just can't help it.
Speaker 1: Whatever it goes. I can hear myself a fucking screaming again.
Speaker 1: During the scream, you can hear yourself stop stop, can't stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awful. It is awful feeling out of control. And
Speaker 1: I also feel like when I am in an out
Speaker 1: of control way, my old eating habits rear their head
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, that's what really bothers me where I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's such a control thing, having eating issues, and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm forty three and these are cropping up again. So
Speaker 1: I'm getting straight onto it. Like I've got a dietitian
Speaker 1: who works with this stuff. But I'm like, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things in my life that when it's not good,
Speaker 1: I try and control, which was all what I used
Speaker 1: to do years ago. I'm like, no, not this, don't
Speaker 1: start this now. Like I know, I'm on.
Speaker 2: I do feel every I feel like that's something that
Speaker 2: whether people again are vulnerable enough to say it or not,
Speaker 2: I do feel like and I think it's men and women,
Speaker 2: because I'm sure men go through their own It might
Speaker 2: not be the hormonal ups and downs, but they go
Speaker 2: through their own form of a mid life crisis or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think that is just a coping mechanism, the controlling around,
Speaker 2: and we've all got our thing. And maybe when it's
Speaker 2: that you're a workaholic, that seems more socially acceptable, yes,
Speaker 2: and controlling eating that people look at it and go, oh,
Speaker 2: that's oh no, that's not good that she's doing that.
Speaker 2: But also when you're running yourself into the ground because
Speaker 2: you're hiding it behind work, yeah that's fucking just as
Speaker 2: bad and just as toxic as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's wild, isn't it fucking wild? Our brains? Like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like everyone's works like this, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they do mal like. I bet the majority
Speaker 1: of people listening you're like, you guys are fucking insane.
Speaker 2: I don't reckon, I reckon, it's just some people. Maybe
Speaker 2: some people don't talk about it, or some people don't
Speaker 2: zero in on it the way we might like. The
Speaker 2: awareness of hang on, this is why I'm doing that,
Speaker 2: which is I also think is quite an emotionally mature
Speaker 2: thing to do, like immature mature. I think it's insightful
Speaker 2: that you can recognize it. I think the real problem
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, is when people can't recognize it.
Speaker 2: I think that's when you've got a problem. At least
Speaker 2: we know it.
Speaker 1: But I think being more oblivious sometimes would be beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, like it just it's.
Speaker 1: Beautiful for you. It's beautiful for you to live in
Speaker 1: you well, and you're not so nice for everyone else though,
Speaker 1: is it? But anyway, yeah, so we are still very
Speaker 1: much in the thick of clearly perimenopause and getting our
Speaker 1: moods and emotions and everything under control. But it could
Speaker 1: be like a ten year thing.
Speaker 2: That's terrifying and also just the thought of how much
Speaker 2: can you no matter how much hormones and stuff you have.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is it's it's a time where
Speaker 2: it can't really be that controlled because it is so
Speaker 2: up and down. Yeah, so it's like, okay, well maybe
Speaker 2: today my progesterone is really low, but tomorrow it might
Speaker 2: be back up. So maybe tomorrow when I take my progesterone,
Speaker 2: oh no, it's going to be too much and then
Speaker 2: I'm going to feel weird from that.
Speaker 1: Yes, totally. But how beautiful is it when you feel great?
Speaker 1: Like oh good, let's just go good. There's no like
Speaker 1: real great feelings at the moment. But when I feel
Speaker 1: good and the sun's out, it's like euphoria. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not exhausted. I think today especially,
Speaker 1: I was up for an hour and a half at
Speaker 1: two o'clock with Odie, so I'm so cooked. And when
Speaker 1: I'm so exhausted, my glass is definitely more half empty.
Speaker 1: But when I wake up and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I feel good, I can get up, I can go
Speaker 1: to pilates, I'm still journaling like a demon. Loving the journaling.
Speaker 2: I think I've got to try it.
Speaker 1: Mate, You've got to and it's a hard habit to
Speaker 1: get into, but once you get into it, it is
Speaker 1: so great. So every I shouldn't say every day, not
Speaker 1: every day, but it's I do a three page journal
Speaker 1: where it's just streams of consciousness. So I've told you this,
Speaker 1: and I'm nearly at the end of this journal, and
Speaker 1: I thought of you. I'm like, what am I going
Speaker 1: to do with this journal when it's done, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna have to put it straight in the bin.
Speaker 2: I this is really telling of what a shit person
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Oh shut up, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: If I knew was doing.
Speaker 1: That, which he would never you couldn't, Now you could,
Speaker 1: I think I could. Sam has one by his bed too,
Speaker 1: I will, and that's where mine is too.
Speaker 2: But that is a level of trust that is extraordinary
Speaker 2: because I know who I am. I would find it
Speaker 2: unbelievably hard not to look in.
Speaker 1: That where I'm the opposite. If he said read some
Speaker 1: I would be like, absolutely not, because when you do this,
Speaker 1: it is literally streams of consciousness and do I live
Speaker 1: with the most So it's like, I know I would
Speaker 1: be in there because it's very challenging for him to
Speaker 1: have a chronically ill partner. Of course, like yeah, sometimes
Speaker 1: don't realize how much affects his life because I'm in
Speaker 1: my head of me surviving where I'm like, well, he
Speaker 1: is to an extent too, but he's got literally no
Speaker 1: control over the situation. Not that I do, but it's
Speaker 1: not him, so he resents the situation so much. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, the whole thing would be about that, Like
Speaker 1: it would be so much about me. How he probably
Speaker 1: mentioned me three times, and I'm thinking the whole books
Speaker 1: about me, But I.
Speaker 2: Completely get, like you being able to not look at
Speaker 2: that is amazing, Like I'm just like, oh, I'd read it,
Speaker 2: he'd bring up what's wrong nothing.
Speaker 1: Yes, because you couldn't tell. You couldn't say to.
Speaker 2: Him, no, you couldn't. It's like that I told you
Speaker 2: the other day. I've been watching this show Couples Therapy. Yes, fuck,
Speaker 2: it's so good, right, But I do watch it and
Speaker 2: I think I believe that therapy is good for everybody.
Speaker 2: But I do think allowing yourself to be so honest
Speaker 2: like some of those people, some of the people the honesty,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if being that honest all
Speaker 2: the time is a good thing. Yeah, Like one of
Speaker 2: the women was saying, she's just not sexually attracted to
Speaker 2: her husband anymore because he's put on weight. How do
Speaker 2: you say that to him?
Speaker 1: Yes, some things are inside thoughts like that.
Speaker 2: I just and I'm like, how do you then have
Speaker 2: that session and you've said these things to each other
Speaker 2: and then leave and carry on as normal. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I could do.
Speaker 1: That, But then I also admire that because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that's how you move through things. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: and of course it would be super hurtful, But it's
Speaker 1: also like, well, if our marriage is feeling over, what
Speaker 1: is then when you've got kind of nothing to lose.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's when you say it. Yeah, did he end
Speaker 1: up saying I'm going to lose weight? Like what did
Speaker 1: he say? No?
Speaker 2: He just looked fucking defeated. The poor bust. She just
Speaker 2: looked ashamed. And I think he'd had weight issues in
Speaker 2: the past. And I was just like something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you need to be honest about
Speaker 2: I know that seems cruel to me. Yeah, or say
Speaker 2: that to your friend. Say it to your friend and
Speaker 2: then maybe say to him, hey, you.
Speaker 1: Go for a walk, Like I don't know. Shit, wait's
Speaker 1: a very hard thing to to bring up to, especially
Speaker 1: roles reverse Like imagine Mark was like, you're you're putting
Speaker 1: what you're putting on a bit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like and and this is the thing he would.
Speaker 1: Never because he's not known.
Speaker 2: He's but even forget the like being nice part of it,
Speaker 2: he's just not that person. Like he just doesn't understand,
Speaker 2: like the vanity, he has no vanity or anything, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't see it. He's like, I walk around
Speaker 2: the house ninety percent of the time looking like a
Speaker 2: fucking pig, and he's like, but you don't look any
Speaker 2: different to me. Yeah, when you, I said, and then
Speaker 2: I get angry because I'm like, that's a lie. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's not light. And I'm like, well, maybe he
Speaker 2: just doesn't, like you know, you love someone you see
Speaker 2: beyond that, Yes, you know, but you can.
Speaker 1: But I guess like Sam never looks that different to me,
Speaker 1: but they don't have as much to work with as.
Speaker 2: Us as a thing like a woman can. Like when
Speaker 2: we record, I would never get on without makeup or
Speaker 2: anything because it's like it makes me feel better about myself.
Speaker 1: Yes, but.
Speaker 2: I do look different obviously, just take my main Yeah,
Speaker 2: the maskaa is the.
Speaker 1: BIG's the main thing, but I don't reckon. Sam would
Speaker 1: notice half the time either, But then I say that,
Speaker 1: but then sometimes when I dress like an absolute like
Speaker 1: just clearly just racked on whatever, there will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you put on your good clothes for me, So it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes he does notice, Yeah, of course, but it's
Speaker 1: just that, and then it's and then that rolls into
Speaker 1: oh is it just that they don't even see me anymore?
Speaker 2: Not even they're just not looking at me. So guess
Speaker 2: you know, always glass half himed? Isn't it all right?
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