WEBVTT - Sharri | 15 August 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:07.680 Live on Sky News This Sharry Good Evening. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:08.640 Welcome to the show. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.640 A big exclusive tonight, I can reveal an American nuclear 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.040 powered submarine will be in Australian waters from next week 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.560 in what's described as a show of force against China. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.400 The full details coming up only on this program. American 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.760 Congressman Michael McCall, the chair of the powerful Foreign Affairs Committee, 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.360 has bucked in Peter Dutton's concerns over Palestinian visas. He 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.960 says that any HMAS sympathizer could be a ticking time bomb. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.760 Michael McCall sat down with me for an exclusive interview. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.240 But you have to properly vet individuals before you bring 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.919 them in to your country, otherwise you could be bringing in, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:57.440 you know, ticking time bombs, Hamas or other terrorists that 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.360 could cause problems. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.959 This as Dutton fights off accusations of racism after he 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.040 demanded a block on visas from the war zone. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:09.640 But first tonight. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:14.640 We're seeing utter hypocrisy from the Albanese government. Hamas is 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:19.679 listed as a prescribed terror organization in Australia. This means 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.480 that members of Hamas are literally banned and could be 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.280 prosecuted in this country. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.360 So there's the very real question. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:33.120 Over whether Australian government policy to allow Hamas supporters from 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.679 the front line of Gaza into Australia is contradicting its 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.200 own laws. The heat should be firmly on the Prime Minister, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:47.320 his Foreign Minister and Tony Burke for radical policy lunacy 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.840 get Instead, the focus today was on Peter Dutton, and 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.080 Dutton was accused of racism for daring to suggest to 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:00.800 the Albanesi government shouldn't be flying in terrorists from a 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:01.560 war zone. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.920 I seek to try to bring people together, not always 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:05.480 looking for. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.800 A wage or to divide, stopping racist leader of the 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.840 opposition Order. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.560 Well, it was an offensive and unparliamentary remarket it should 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:15.000 be withdrawn. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:19.480 Is a description of language being racist and unparliamentary remark. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.800 Let you say something about the children that are Bengus laughter. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.880 Peter Dutton is the leader of the Nasty Party. It's trumpion, 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.399 it's despicable and it needs. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:30.920 To be called out. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.600 The coalition's gone too far. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.480 Yep, absolutely, absolutely. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.320 The last thing you want to be doing is heightening 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.000 anger here in this country, and that's exactly what Peter 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:39.959 Dutton's doing. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:46.000 And many media outlets work equally as critical good. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.960 To see it. Are you heartless, a heartless racist? Do 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.000 you have any humanity? 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.360 Mike Burgess says, if there's no ideological support for her mask, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.720 they're not a problem. Don't you trust ASIO? They check 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.560 if someone provided for or material support to Hamas or 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.680 if they have an ideology, so what else? And if 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.320 they don't, they're fine to come in. What else do 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:10.240 you want them to check? 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.480 Well, we've been reporting on this program for months now 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.400 that security vetting is being done in as little as 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.560 an hour, sometimes as well just a day, and in 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.720 many occasions it's not even sent to ASIO for checking 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.960 at all. The City Morning Herald, which as you know, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:34.320 has a long history of anti Israel coverage, cold Dutton heartless, 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.600 saying his hardline approach is cruel to people fleeing war. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.520 This has a human cost, and Dutton may find it 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:48.200 has a political cost, but the reality is the precise opposite. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:53.000 It's heartless for Albanezi to bring in potential terror supporters 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:58.880 to Australia and put Australian lives at risk. Hermas doesn't 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:03.040 only hate Jews, but all Westerners and the very values 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.760 we all stand for, not all Palestinians, of course, support 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.080 her Mus although so many are indoctrinated from birth to 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.560 hate Jews, as we revealed on this show. As I 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.279 said for months now, because we have been exposing the 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.599 security flaws, and this is journalism, there are enormous flaws 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.159 in the security process to determine whether people coming to 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:29.520 Australia from the war zone are genuine refugees or have 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.920 a problematic history. It's not racism to be concerned about 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:40.719 terrorists or their supporters coming to Australia when social cohesion 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:44.520 is already at breaking point and the terror threat level 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:49.560 is rising. Foreign editor The Australian Greg Sheridan put it 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:54.360 perfectly when he writes that Australian government policy has been 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.640 historically to be cautious about taking people from radicalized populations. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.400 He says that we can have and should have. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:08.560 A generous refugee policy without accepting radicalized people. Sheridan asks, 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.720 is it now Australian government policy that support for a 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.960 terrorist organization is not enough to disqualify someone from coming 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:23.000 to Australia, indeed coming and settling permanently, And he describes 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.520 this position as wildly radical new policy which the government 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.880 either has to. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.840 Explain or abandoned. 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.320 Sheridan says that if refugees are to be resettled, the 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.480 United Nations preference is for that to be in their 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.799 own region, and he says he points out the Gaza 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.960 is surrounded by hundreds of millions of Arabic speaking people 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:51.080 in predominantly Muslim, Arab and North African countries, which are 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:56.039 obvious places for refugees. Greg Sheridan argues that the government 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.000 has got itself into an absurd situation, a completely ridiculou 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.600 rhetorical bind in which it cannot even say that supporting 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:10.080 a terrorist organization disqualifies an applicant from coming to Australia. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.279 He says, if that is the government's position, it should 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.599 not hide behind Asio but actually tell us how it 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.960 came to such a radical conclusion that some support for 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.760 terrorist organization is okay, and whether this is now Australian 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:28.719 policy going forward. He says, interrogating these issues is not 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:34.880 remotely racist, but the Prime Minister has been unable to 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:40.480 actually guarantee and promise Australians that rigorous security checks are 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.120 being done in every instance, unable to answer the questions 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.480 about why some security checks are only taking one hour, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.200 and why he must sympathizers could have already been let 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.560 into the country. Well, they can't answer those questions, so 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:00.839 that Albanezi government can only attack dutt It no answers, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:07.400 just emotional attacks. And alban Easy seriously misled Australians today 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.800 and it was breathtaking to watch unfold life because he 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.200 claimed that ASIO Director General Mike Burgess had said that 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.360 security checks were being done. Now, listen very carefully to 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.080 the Prime Minister's remarks here. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.320 I'll refer to what the ASIO Director General himself has said. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.040 If they've been issued a visa, they've gone through the process, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:38.920 they're referred to my organization and Asia. Does it seems. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:39.960 No? 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.240 He stopped reading the direct quote halfway through. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.160 In the very next sentence. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.760 Mike Burgess said that not all visas had been sent 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.440 to them in time. Have A listened to what Mike 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.160 Burgess actually said. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:58.480 So for all immigration, including when you're balancing humanitarian needs, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.280 security checks are critically There are process in place, and 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.960 I can assure your audience that when things get referred 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.600 to Asia, we deal with them effectively. Of course, there 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.600 might be times when they didn't get referred to us 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.559 in time. Once we become aware of them, we're able 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.720 to do the assessments and deal with them effectively. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.560 There might be times when they haven't been referred to 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.040 us in time. That is what Mike Burgess said. That 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.000 is what the Prime Minister did not read out in 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:24.840 question time. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.520 This is deeply misleading. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.840 Of the Prime Minister to misquote Burgess and take him 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.240 out of context, to leave out the part where the 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.720 head of ASIO said, actually, not all Palestinian visa applicants 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.080 were sent to us in time. It's too late when 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.560 they're ready in our country. When Tony Burke has said, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.560 oh we can't. No government in its right mind would 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:49.079 send anyone back to Gaza. Dutton then did point out 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.360 that Albinizi had misquoted Mike Burgess and asked him to 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.319 correct the record. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.360 The Prime Minister refused to do so. 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.080 Now this entire time topic is a fight that Peter 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.800 Dutton is happy to have. There's no question most Australians 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.000 would be highly concerned about her must sympathizers arriving in 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:15.280 our country. Even the City Morning Herald's Resolve poll found 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:20.199 that only ten percent of Australians wanted to accept Palestinian refugees. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.800 So as long as the coalition is speaking about whether 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.000 to allow her Mus supporters into the country, where alban 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:32.200 Easy looks shakier and weaker as Prime minister, it seems 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:37.240 his true character as a radical pro Palestinian activist yelling 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.320 into a microphone at a rally where the American flag 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.440 was burned. Well, this is now emerging and it poses 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:57.840 a very real danger to our country. Owing well, all right, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.240 don't forget still coming up on the show with got 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.680 that big exclusive about the American nuclear powered submarine that 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.080 is going to be in Australian waders next week. That's 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.240 still coming up. But right now, let's bring in to 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.280 night's panel Sky News commentator Jason Morrison and perth Mere 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:18.560 Basil Zemplus. Welcome to you both, Basil, Starting with you, look, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.200 Peter Dutton said today that even if ninety nine percent, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.720 even if that's the case, ninety nine percent of Palestinians 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.560 coming from the war zone innocent our refugees, there's no 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.520 problems with them, even if they don't. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.079 Agree with Hermas. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.600 He said that one percent could pose a security threat, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.920 could potentially commit a terror attack and could cost lives, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.760 So why risk And it's not just Jewish Australians, although 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.840 we feel it acutely at the moment, but why risk 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.320 all Australian. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:54.880 Lives exactly and almost on Q A sort of wave 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.640 of negativity towards Peter Darton very quick for his opponents 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:00.880 to play the race card. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:02.400 But consider it this way. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.680 I think most Australians with any good deal of common 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.400 sense would say, we would want everybody coming to this country. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.240 We'd want to know who they are, we'd want to 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.360 know their past, we'd want to make sure that they 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.080 were properly vetted. I don't think too many people would 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.160 disagree with that. If we can't properly vet the people, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.520 if they're not properly being vetted, then they shouldn't come. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.040 And it's no more complicated than that. I mean, we 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.520 know what John Howard said back in two thousand and one. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.079 We decide who comes to this country and the circumstances 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.560 in which they come. The message hasn't really changed. It's 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:36.839 common sense. We need to know who they are, they 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.680 need to be properly checked. If they're not properly checked, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:45.160 they can't come. That's what Dunton's saying it's not that complicated, Jason. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.040 That clip I just played it at the end of 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.359 my remarks. They're Albin Easy when he was a federal politician, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:53.960 he was already in Parliament to that point, yelling into 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:54.920 the megaphone. 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:56.599 I play it all the time. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.120 Because I think it is so critical to his approach 0:11:59.160 --> 0:11:59.760 to this issue. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.880 Think, yeah, we elected phony Albow, but that's real Albo, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.679 that's the real guy. The real guy is just like 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.200 Sarah Hanson yat. The real guy thinks this is an 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.199 emotional argument. I know it's really it's tempting to want 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.160 to talk about the one percent thing. I actually want 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.160 to talk about the ninety nine percent. I want to 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:21.720 talk about why Australia, twelve thousand kilometers from the Middle East, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.079 depending on which way you fly, three continents away, has 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:26.720 become the nation that has to do this. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.240 I mean, Syria, where are you? Where are you? Jordan? 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:31.839 Where are you? Oh? 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.200 I know why you don't want them? 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.280 You don't want them, so Australia gets them. And this 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.960 is the problem. Australia has kind of left itself there 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.680 as open the door to let the world's problems into it. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.880 Australians don't want problems brought to its nation, So we 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.800 look at the ninety nine percent and we focus on 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.360 the one percent. I think we've seen enough in this 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.120 country all ready to tell us that even without bringing 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.800 refugees from troubled war zones, we have a big problem 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.000 already in this country. Do we want to add to it? 0:12:59.080 --> 0:12:59.320 Yeahs. 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:04.439 Social CO under Albanesi's watch has been sadly a breaking point. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.800 Now this is a big story today. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.360 The Liberal Party in New South Wales has failed to 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.000 enroll dozens of candidates for the upcoming council elections. 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.640 This is a major stuff up. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.640 There's around eighteen councils maybe more who could be impacted. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.520 This includes and if you're in. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:25.439 Sydney, Northern Beaches, Blue Mountains, Campbelltown, Camden Lane, Cove, shoh 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:29.000 Haven and Woollongong. The state opposition leader in New South Wales, 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:33.079 Mark Speakman, has called for the State Director, Richard Shields, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.360 to resign Basil this isn't just a worry for New 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.959 South Wales, but given the state director is in charge 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.360 of the federal campaign as well, do you think you know, 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.360 are you worried that if this lack of administration is 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.439 replicated at the federal level. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.160 That this could cause problems for the federal election. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.880 Well, clearly it speaks broadly to the professionalism of the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.200 organization organization. If a mistake is made at one level, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.600 then questions are going to be raised or asked about 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.240 is this happening at other levels? 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.920 Could it happen at other levels? It's not great clearly. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.520 In New South Wales, party affiliation is part of local 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.800 government elections. Here in Western Australia it is not, although 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.640 at times people are affiliated with parties and whold positions 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.960 in local government, but they don't run as Liberal, Labor, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.760 Green or other candidates. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.840 Typically most people are independents. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.040 But over there you haven't got a lot to get 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.760 right when you're doing that job as it pertains to 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.680 local government elections, and that was one of them and 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:35.920 it hasn't been done right. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.760 So there are some big questions to answer. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.400 Big questions. But Jason, do you think he should be sacked? 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.000 That's what Mark Speakman's calling for. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.520 If he had any class, he and the other dits 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:48.640 that's in the head of the Liberal Party, Don Harwin, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.960 the so called president of the New South Wales Liberal body, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.560 he should be gone too. I mean, a guy who's 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.280 never achieved very much ever in public office is in 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.720 charge of it, apparently an elections expert. If you ask 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.600 anyone in the left of the Liberal Party, well, this 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.760 is Don Harwin's work. This is how he handles election. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:03.800 He cocks them up. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.600 You know this Basil's right. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.920 In Western Australia, they don't endorse for local We didn't 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.400 do it in New South Wales either for a very 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.840 long time. I say we as in the Liberal Party. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.120 We's not a member of it, but I mean it 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.560 didn't happen. And the reason that didn't happen is because 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.840 the Liberal Party couldn't cope with it. But all these 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.760 factional game players like Harwan and Photius and Keen and 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.200 others that are in there, they've seen this as the 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:32.240 breeding ground on the left of parlor of politics to 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.920 try to create their own little clubs and it's just 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:35.600 fallen over. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:37.400 Shields should be gone. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.400 If he had any class, he would go, which is 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.880 tragic because he's actually a man of some capability, But 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.040 he'll go. Harwin shouldn't even be there in the first place, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.120 and half the people that make up the state executive 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.480 you wouldn't feed. So you've got this dilemma where, you know, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.880 if you're a conservative minded person, and I am unashamedly, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.800 you kind of have this situation where the people running 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.880 the party that should be servicing your vale user needs, 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.960 they're just bloody hopeless. And as a result of it, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.960 you've got a class of people in there that roll 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.320 their eyes at traditional conservative voters and they can't even 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.040 get the basic job right. How this has been allowed 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.800 to happen. Peter Dunton's going to have to step in. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.360 They'll have to be a federally deventioned because even tonight 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.040 they're defending this bloke's position, they're defending it. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.320 How they're staggering it really is. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.320 We'll keep covering it over the coming days. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.400 Just before we go, let's turn to this a fight 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.400 that's brewing in the North Shore of Sydney. 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.360 This is between some of the Teals. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:38.160 They've become household names, Kylie tink Zalie Staggle. This after 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.960 fellow Independent oh and Sophie Scamps as well. So this 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.480 is after the abolition of the Electorate of North Sydney 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.280 and now the Teals are fighting over which seat they'll 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.560 all run for. Balzo I just want to ask you 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.920 a political question. Do you think the Teals are going 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.280 to be as successful in this next federal election as 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.960 they were in twenty twenty two or do you think 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.560 that part of the reason they did so well was 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.800 because there are a lot of Liberal voters who didn't 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.680 like Scott Morrison, didn't want to vote for Scott Morrison, 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:15.040 and they saw these female independents as another option. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.359 So my instinct is the latter. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.800 We know the set of circumstances that existed at the 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.359 last federal election, Scott Morrison, for whatever reason, was on 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.719 the nose with the electorate and the Liberals were in power. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.320 We know now it's a labor government and there is 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.840 not that anti Morrison sentiment. He no longer exists in 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.480 the Parliament. So therefore I think it's going. 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.359 To be a lot harder for the Teals. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.399 However, many of them have built up a standing and 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.680 a following in their local areas and so they will 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:51.600 remain very competitive. But our circumstances as favorable, nowhere near 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.639 as favorable as they were three years ago. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.199 For the Teals. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.240 Very quickly, Jason, what do you reckon? 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.960 I hope not that was quick That was good. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.320 All right, Basil's empliers Jase Morrison, great to see you both. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.919 Still to come my exclusive that an American nuclear powered 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.240 submarine will be off the coast of Australia from next 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.800 week in what's been described as a show of force 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:18.000 against China. Those full details next, plus the chair of 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.840 America's powerful Foreign Affairs Congressional Committee, Michael McCall. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.040 You can see him on the screen now. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:27.640 He's backed Peter Dutton's concerns over Palestinian visas, and McColl 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.480 says that any must sympathizer could be. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.560 A ticking time bomb. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:40.960 That's coming up after this quick break, Welcome back. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:41.440 Well. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.000 Today I sat down with the chair of the powerful 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.520 United States Foreign Affairs Congressional Committee, Michael McCall, for an 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.879 exclusive interview. The senior American congressman has been in Australia 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.000 this week for meetings with Penny Wong, Richard Miles, and 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.560 the head of our intelligence agencies Andrew Shearer. Is so 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.800 concerned about China's increasing aggression in our region that McColl 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.360 told me an American nuclear powered submarine will be off 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.880 the coast of Perth from next week. It will then 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.359 move through the Pacific. McColl said this is a show 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.359 of force and will act as a deterrence against China. 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:25.560 In our exclusive interview, McColl also expressed concerns about Palestinian visas, 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:30.720 saying security vetting is extremely difficult and any Hamas sympathizer 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.919 would be a ticking time bomb. He also revealed that 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.159 he had been personally speaking to Saudi officials about taking 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:43.240 on a roll in Gaza after the defeat of Hamas, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.000 and he said he was confident Donald Trump would support 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:51.240 Orcas if he returns to the White House. Here's that interview. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:54.600 Have a look, Michael McCall. Great to have you here 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:55.240 in Australia. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:56.760 Oh thanks, Jerry's great to be here. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.920 You are in question Time in Canberra yesterday in part 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.560 Elament House. The big political issue this week has been 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:08.000 whether there is enough security vetting of Palestinians who are 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.960 coming to Australia from the war zone in Gaza. The 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.720 Opposition leader Peter Darton has said that at this point 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:18.639 in time, given there are no Australian officials on the 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.080 ground able to do the interviews and the security checks, 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.439 he said there shouldn't be any Palestinians coming to Australia. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:26.800 What do you. 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.399 Think it was interesting to be, you know, in the 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.560 Parliament seeing my counterparts. In Australia they get a little 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.280 rowdy with their questions and answer series, which I kind 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:37.160 of enjoyed. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:38.440 More than in the US. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.119 Yeah, that would be kind of fun to see that 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.320 in the United States, you know, the interchange and having 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.639 the Prime Minister on the floor taking you know, hits 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.280 from the opposition. And I can't imagine the President of 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:51.400 United States sitting in the. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.920 World and insults at him and. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.359 Then they take down the insults. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.320 Yeah, just withdrawal that to me. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.399 Yeah, we always think, you know, the Brits are more civilized, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.840 but sometimes and then the Australians. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.920 But it's very rowdy. 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:14.880 But to answer your question, I think and I chaired 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:16.760 the Homeland Security Committee for a long time as a 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:21.359 federal prosecutor counter terrorism, and I'm very sympathetic to the 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:25.639 Palestinian people who have been held hostage by Hamas. Really 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.000 we want to find a safe haven, but you have 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:35.520 to properly vet individuals before you bring them in to 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:38.840 your country, otherwise you could be bringing in you know, 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:44.639 chicking time bombs, Hamas or other terrorists that could cause 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:48.800 problems in my own country. After the fall of Afghanistan, 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.200 thousands of vices k came out of the Bogram prisons. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.880 They went up to the Krzon region which was Pakistan, 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.280 Afghanistan to Zakistan. They made all the way to the 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.920 Mechican border, came up through Mexico and the United States, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.440 and eight of them are detained. They also have smuggling 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.320 ring and god knows how many more in the United States, 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:11.240 and that worries me. 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:16.119 And the most important thing, the greatest obligation of any 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:18.879 political leader is to protect your own citizens first and 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.640 foremost to protect national security. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.080 I think the most important. 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.359