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Speaker 2: I don't get it off and get a chance, so

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Speaker 1: If only people knew how much you and Melissa bully me,

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Speaker 1: and you bully me. Yesterday I did a podcast with

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Speaker 1: David James, Kevin Patrick Gillespie and allegedly this is what

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Speaker 1: she sends me everyone, Your audio is shit. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's code for Dick Craig. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that your microphone was plugged in. You might have been

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Speaker 1: coming through the computer, not the external mic. That's what

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Speaker 1: she meant to write. But what she writes is you're

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Speaker 1: a fucking idiot plug in your microphone. Do you want

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Speaker 2: You want me to read what I actually wrote?

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Speaker 1: It probably doesn't sound as good as what I just said,

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Speaker 1: so you're going to fuck up my whole intro. But

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Speaker 2: Actually probably throws me in the dirt a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 2: Your mic was bro which you would know if you

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Speaker 2: wore your fucking headphones that everybody I bought him so

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't happen. What's not on his head right now?

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Speaker 2: Headphone ops.

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Speaker 1: It's working right, So I don't need them. I just

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Speaker 2: But so, apart from the hot and sweaty, why else

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Speaker 3: People don't need to hear this.

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Speaker 2: No, because that's is that in itself was a lie,

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Speaker 2: because I bought you ones that don't go over your

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Speaker 2: So that excuse is completely obsolete.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you said. Everyone. Sorry, Sorry? Now,

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Speaker 3: why are you grumpy? Or are you grumpy? Like you?

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Speaker 1: I have not seen much of you lately. You have

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Speaker 3: Got a boyfriend? What is going on?

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Speaker 2: I'm a famous pianist. I've been planning my upcoming concert,

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Speaker 2: so what did you say about peniss pianist pianist? No,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm I'm trying to my attempting. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if, because I actually my vague heading for

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Speaker 2: So what I've realized that my continuous happening to switch

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Speaker 1: But I just wonder about that self limitation around our own.

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Speaker 1: that is not at the forefront of my mind, there's

436
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Speaker 1: always that awareness. So the performance is an I don't

437
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Speaker 1: mean performance has in theatrical I mean just the quality

438
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: of what you're producing. I think steps up a little

439
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: when you know that it's being scrutinized and it's being

440
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Speaker 1: able to be that equanimity, that equanomous I think the

441
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: word is sorry, I'll shut up after this. But just

442
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: where you can be on the bike and be calm,

443
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: you can be in front of an audience and become

444
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: in doctor Alex's case, typ regularly you can operate on

445
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: someone's fucking brain with half their half their skull off

446
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: and be calm. I mean, shit, that's the that's the surgeon.

447
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: I want him or her who can operate on my

448
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: rain if I ever need that, I hope I don't,

449
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: but I want the person who's not stressed.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it's a good point. We're doing the

451
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: same thing we'd be doing in a coffee shop. However,

452
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: be interesting to have a candid camera and see how

453
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Speaker 2: many more than three seconds pauses there were between a

454
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Speaker 2: natural conversation between you and I where where we're not

455
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Speaker 2: there's not part of the mind that is ready to

456
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Speaker 2: speak when the other person stops, just in case the

457
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Speaker 2: conversation comes to an end.

458
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Well, I think that. Do you know

459
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Speaker 1: Brad McEwan, Brad who used to work on Channel ten. Yeah, Brad,

460
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: so Braddle's and I spoke before, and it's coming on

461
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: for a chat's moine. We haven't done one for a while,

462
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Speaker 1: and I mean he's a talent, he's done lots of

463
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Speaker 1: mainstream media and you know he was on Channel ten

464
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Speaker 1: for one hundred years. He's a gun, he's a weapon.

465
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Speaker 1: And he's coming on for a chat and he's like,

466
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Speaker 1: what do you want chat about? I go, I don't know,

467
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, let's chat. And I said, one person

468
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Speaker 1: I really don't need to think about or plan with,

469
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: is you you know, the guy that's done twenty years

470
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Speaker 1: of television and a million hours of radio and interviews,

471
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Speaker 1: and you know, that's the beauty of it. And we started,

472
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: we started talking about what we've been doing, because I

473
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Speaker 1: haven't spoken to him for like two or three years,

474
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Speaker 1: and I used to We used to see quite a

475
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: bit of each other because he trained at my gym

476
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: throughout four days a week for years and years, right,

477
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: so we know each other quite well. And he started

478
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Speaker 1: telling me about I go, actually, can you not? Can

479
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Speaker 1: you just tell me tomorrow? Can you just tell me

480
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: all the shit that you're up to tomorrow? Because I

481
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: don't want to know? And then you tell me it

482
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Speaker 1: all again tomorrow, And I've got to pretend that I'm

483
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: surprised or interested like I want you to tell me.

484
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: But and I've got heaps of shit to tell you.

485
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: Let's just do that tomorrow, and let's just go where

486
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: we go and see what the lessons and messages are,

487
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 1: you know, And I mean consistently we get feedback and

488
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: you get feedback too.

489
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Speaker 3: I know that.

490
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Speaker 1: People like it when it's it's not like question three,

491
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: so tif blah blah blah, answer three. Thanks Craig, here's

492
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: my answer question four. I mean, who wants to listen

493
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: to that? Rather punch myself in the phrase.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And it's it's like for es, especially when

495
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: the guests that you haven't yet connected with, they'll built

496
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: rapport with to offer that and have having it, have

497
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: them have a good time happening to have a good time.

498
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Just sort of there again, because this is the Happening podcast.

499
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Speaker 1: What's the when we talk about you know, so when

500
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: I talk about goals with people, we go, Okay, what

501
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Speaker 1: do you want? Why do you want it? How are

502
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: you going to get it? And when are you going

503
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Speaker 1: to get it? You know, timeline. So there's kind of

504
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: four main things, maybe five what's the outcome? Right?

505
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: So what do you want? Goal?

506
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Speaker 1: Why do you want it? In a driver a motivation reason,

507
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: underlying intention? Right, how are you going to get it?

508
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: Plan?

509
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Speaker 1: When are you going to get it? Timeline? And then

510
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: five once you do get it, what's the outcome?

511
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: Right?

512
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: So for you, what's the main There might be a couple,

513
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: but what's the main why behind.

514
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: Deep diving into music.

515
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: To broaden my interest and identity in my life experience

516
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 2: in regards to my life experience, right? So yeah, to

517
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: break out of the tiff in the gym, Tips the

518
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: boxer TIF does physical stuff right, Tip's busy all the time?

519
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: Is that for you though? Is that for you? Or

520
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: is that is that for how you see you or

521
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: how others are you?

522
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Speaker 2: That's well, that's for how I am me, That's how

523
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: I how I feel. And I really like opening myself

524
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Speaker 2: up to new experiences and new perspectives. And I realized

525
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: that I'm in danger of not doing that because I

526
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: am so busy or occupied in things that are all

527
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: similar or the same or follow the same path. So

528
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: what would happen if I try this new thing? What

529
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: might I you know, four four and a half years ago,

530
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: what might happen if I just start a podcast? And

531
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: now look like all this stuff happened?

532
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: Yes, and now you're presenting at the fucking New Project

533
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: conferences other super Stars. That's coming up on June one, everybody.

534
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: We haven't announced that. You can't buy a ticket yet.

535
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: It's not on the website. Melissa will definitely kick me

536
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: in the dick for saying it, but fuck it, I'm

537
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: going to live on the edge. I'm going to tell

538
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: you all anyway.

539
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: She will go. You know what, she'll say to me,

540
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: why did you mention it? It's not on the website.

541
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Speaker 3: People can't book.

542
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Speaker 2: I will be emailing her. She will that email see it,

543
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: don't email Mellily see it.

544
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Speaker 1: We'll We've got some real I'm not going to tell

545
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: you because she will punch me in her face.

546
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Speaker 3: But we've got some really good speakers and me.

547
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: But you know what I call that, you diving into

548
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: music is I always say to people. In fact, I

549
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: think I said to my group, my mentoring group, not

550
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: last night, but last week.

551
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: We do mondays.

552
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Do something unnew, you know, like do something that's just

553
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: open a door that you would never normally open. Like

554
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: go to the room we're in that room you're the shittest.

555
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Don't go to the room where you're the best. Don't

556
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: go to the room where you're comfortable. I'm talking about

557
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: a metaphoric room. Don't go to the room where you

558
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: excel and you look good. Go to the room where

559
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: you're a white belt and you're fucking hopeless, and you

560
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: might learn something, and you might you might grow and evolve.

561
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: Like think about, for example, if you take boxing, your

562
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: room for improvement is there, but it's minimal compared to

563
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: your room for growth and development, sitting at a piano right,

564
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: how much you you know? And then along with that

565
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: all the other great benefits that we spoke about. Imagine

566
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: if just per chance you rang Mark Seymour in six

567
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: months Mark Seymour as a friend of TIFFs.

568
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Of course he was. He wrote a.

569
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Speaker 1: Song called the Boxer and had an album called The Boxer,

570
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: and the Boxer of which he wrote was Tiff of course.

571
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Speaker 1: But imagine if you went, I know this is ridiculous,

572
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm fucking no one musically, but could I come over

573
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: and play a song and you sing?

574
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: How good would you? Should fucking aim for that and

575
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: we'll film that shit?

576
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: How good would sing?

577
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: So you need to learn your song and you need

578
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: to learn I don't know, maybe what's that.

579
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: I know the.

580
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Words around mend me.

581
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: You need to learn that.

582
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Speaker 1: You need to learn that because that's the it's almost

583
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: like an Australian anthem.

584
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm reading at the moment, I'm reading John Farmer's biography.

585
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: What a great book, What a great story of again

586
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: someone who was in the industry but just struggling and

587
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: not really bloody, getting far and getting jammed in and

588
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: then bam, he Rode wrote Whispering Or released Whispering Jack

589
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: and became the biggest selling album in Australia. I think

590
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: to this day like it's crazy and so inspiring. Yeah,

591
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: you're just one decision or path or footstep away from

592
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: the thing you're chasing. If that's what you want to do.

593
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah it's funny, isn't it.

594
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he could have he could have just

595
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: taken a little bit of a left turn, not a

596
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: right turn, and he would have been Sadie the cleaning

597
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: lady guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, little Johnny Farnham who's sang

598
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: and all our young listeners now like who the fuck?

599
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

600
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: And all how oldies Hello, oldiesh hello oldish Hey, put

601
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: your teeth back in and litten leaning, lean in duhl.

602
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: My talk to Mary.

603
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's it's so interesting all of that where

604
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: you think, man, what if? Almost like those sliding door moments. Yeah, there,

605
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: where you think on a very very small scale. I

606
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: put up a post a few weeks ago that I've

607
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: put up before, and it's not particularly profound or wise.

608
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: It's it's mildly amusing. It's got a good message or two,

609
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: and it's got a bit of swearing in it as

610
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: almost shit has and it got picked up by someone

611
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: somewhere and it's got that just that one post in

612
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: the last four weeks has got nearly a million views.

613
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: It's like eight hundred and ninety thousand, just that one, yeah,

614
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, and then compared to what some people get

615
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: a million in a day, but some people, you know.

616
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Speaker 1: And I just think, ah, it's so funny because I've

617
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: put that up before and I don't know, maybe it

618
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: had five to ten thousand views, you know, and it's

619
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: now nearly had a million, And I'm like wow. And

620
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: it's not because it's exactly the same thing, but someone

621
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: somewhere shared it. And now that post has been shared,

622
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: just that one installment on that day that I shared,

623
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Speaker 1: I think it's up to like eleven and a half

624
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: thousand shares, shares, not comment not likes, you know, so

625
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: and twenty five or Yeah, it's funny how sometimes just

626
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: something will catch fire a little bit.

627
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to a podcast with mister Beast

628
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: on It and he was talking about how you know,

629
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: how you're better off making on it's EA or he said,

630
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Speaker 2: it's easier to make one great video that gets on

631
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: whatever two million views or whatever. Then it is to

632
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: create a video a day and get whatever the equivalent

633
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: of that total would be on each video. Interesting listening

634
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: to different people like that. I've been listening to a

635
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: lot of audio books and different podcasts that again aren't

636
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: like I don't want to be a mister beast, I

637
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: don't want to be a content creator, but it's like,

638
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: what's how does this guy think? And what does he

639
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: talk about and what There's always these tiny snippets of

640
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: insight that you get that, even if they don't apply

641
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: to you, it can change your perspective enough to make

642
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: you alter things.

643
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting because there's this sometimes for me anyway,

644
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: not big, but a little bit of an internal dilemma,

645
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: you know where you know where you think, Oh, I

646
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: could write this post and it's going to be quite blunt,

647
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: a little bit rude, a little bit, and I know

648
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: it's going to get traction because there's a bit of

649
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: a recipe. Right, then I can write this other thing

650
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: that I think is quite deep and profound. Then if

651
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: people might read it and they might take it on board,

652
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: they might operationalize it, they might do something with it.

653
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: It could be really powerful and valuable in their life,

654
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: but four people are going to read it, you know,

655
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: and like, you don't want to be the like he said,

656
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: just create something that's going to get two million views

657
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I understand because he's literally talking about

658
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: building a brand online and all that shit, which he's done.

659
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Is the biggest content creator or the biggest YouTuber on

660
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: the planet by far, and you know, for what he does,

661
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: he's fucking amazing. Right, It's not what I want to do,

662
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: it's not what you want to do. But at the

663
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: same time, you want to be authentic and you want

664
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: to pull up content that really reflects who you are

665
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 1: and how you are and the messages that you want

666
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: to share. But also the practical reality is And I

667
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: wrote about this the other day. I wrote the psychology

668
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: of fuck right. I wrote a post about that, and

669
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: it's time and time again proven to me that it's

670
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: somewhere between five and eight times the response I get

671
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: if I write the same post with swearing versus no swearing.

672
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: So if I write a post with no swearing and

673
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: I get let's say, one hundred responses and I put

674
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: up the exact same post, we're swearing, I'll get five

675
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: to eight hundred instead of one hundred. And you know

676
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, what is that about? How much do

677
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: I lean into that? And I don't swear for effect?

678
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: Like you know me away from the podcast. You know

679
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: me on the podcast. The way I talk in the gym,

680
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: the way that I talk out and about is the

681
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: way that I talk on the podcast. There's not really

682
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: any difference, right, But yeah, it's just that it's a

683
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: real juggling act. I think when you want to be

684
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: doing something that is done with integrity and authenticity, but

685
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: you also know there's a commercial, practical reality to what

686
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: you do. Like if, for example, or should I say this, No,

687
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to

688
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: say that in trouble I'll tell you off there.

689
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't.

690
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: What I was going to say is profound and true,

691
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: but I just can't because someone will get offended.

692
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: Do you do you think or do you ever think

693
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: about or wonder to whatever level of self awareness you

694
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: have on your current experience, do you ever think about

695
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: how much your your path might be still influenced by

696
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: the feedback from creating content, like like I do the

697
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: same thing. Sometimes I write things that I think are

698
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: that I feel strongly about, and I'm like, I think

699
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: this is really I think this is a beneficial insight. Right.

700
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: Sometimes well most of the time, I feel like I'm

701
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 2: just writing them to me, so I'll read them again

702
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: one day and learn from it. But it might, you know,

703
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: not many people might share it or see it or

704
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: like it or whatever. And I wonder if that subconsciously

705
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: affects how much I think about that again or try

706
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: and replicate that, or if it mate really makes any

707
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Speaker 2: difference at all.

708
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think about that.

709
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm always looking at the stats, the data, and it's

710
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: really out of curiosity to see.

711
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: What lands with people.

712
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have a public page like you

713
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Speaker 1: do and like I do, and you have a few

714
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: followers like we both do, well, obviously you want to

715
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: connect with as many people as possible while not compromising

716
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: your integrity or values.

717
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: But I think you would be silly to have.

718
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: A public page and pay absolutely no regard to what

719
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: seems to resonate with people.

720
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Speaker 2: So sun Dryer is probably isn't the great.

721
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Well one of my favorite, one of the favorite things

722
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: of mine, like in my top ten and I've literally

723
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: got thousands of whiteboards.

724
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Speaker 3: That I've written.

725
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Speaker 1: If you don't know, if you're one of the three

726
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: people that listens to me that doesn't know my Instagram,

727
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: it's just Craig Anthony Harper, And it's thousands of whiteboard

728
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: messages that I literally handwrite on my whiteboard, photograph and

729
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: then put up. But one of my favorites of all

730
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: time that absolutely died in the ass. I'll probably fuck

731
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: it up, but I'll remember it as best I can.

732
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Speaker 1: And you've heard of dolphin free tuna, right? Have you

733
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: ever heard that term dolphin free tuna?

734
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: No?

735
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: So supermarkets, you know supermarkets sell tuna. Yeah, And one

736
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Speaker 1: of the risks is that in fishing for tuna with nets,

737
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: sometimes dolphins get caught up, right, And so one of

738
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: the advertising hooks on some tuna is dolphin free tuna

739
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: or that's the farming process or the netting process, right, So.

740
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: That's an advertisement.

741
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: But and my whiteboard says something like, if dolphin free

742
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: tuna teaches us one thing, it's that it doesn't pay

743
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: to be dumber or uglier and a dolphin and live

744
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: in the ocean. And my point is that we're happy

745
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: to kill a tuna. Why oh, because it's dumb and

746
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: it's ugly. We're happy to eat the shit out of tuna,

747
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: but the thought of killing something that swims alongside it

748
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: in the same place place is like so offensive to

749
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: people because dolphins are cute and dolphins are smart. I'm like, okay,

750
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: and tuna, no, they're not okay, but they have a

751
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: nervous system. They feel pain. Yeah, right, it's like we

752
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: buy into this anyway. Like I wrote that, and I'm like,

753
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: this is profound and this is insightful, and people are

754
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: going to go, oh fuck, yah, really making me think

755
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: about this.

756
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: Nobody fucking crickets nothing.

757
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, And I went, oh, maybe it was the

758
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: time of day, or maybe they didn't it was the

759
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: wrong you know. So I put it up with nothing, nothing,

760
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what I have learned is that some

761
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: of the things that for me, and I'm not saying

762
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm right and anyone's wrong, they're not because I realize

763
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: sometimes the shit that fascinates me is of no interest

764
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: in those people. So I've I've got to pay attention

765
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: and go right, that doesn't work.

766
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: I still think that, by.

767
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: The way, but there are some things I won't like,

768
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: there are some things that I truly believe that I

769
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: won't say on here because I don't think it will

770
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: not because I'm scared, but because I don't think it

771
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: will produce a good outcome. There's not many things, by

772
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: the way, I say pretty much everything I think, but

773
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: there are a few things where I say, Look, if

774
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: I said this, is there any upside to this in

775
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: me saying this? And the answer is no, there's probably

776
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: more downside than upside, So be mindful and be aware.

777
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: And also there's a chance that with this thing that

778
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm right about, I'm wrong because I've been

779
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: wrong a million times.

780
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: In my life, so you know.

781
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: And it's like I'm going to turn around. I wrote

782
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: a whiteboard just before which I'm going to post later,

783
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: which by the time people listen to this, it's just

784
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: got three lines and the top line says can you

785
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: still hear me? Yep? The top line says the reality

786
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: your reality, The second line says objective, subjective, and the

787
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: third line says, settle the fuck down.

788
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: Right.

789
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Because people think that their reality is the reality, It's like,

790
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: that's no. They think their truth is the universal objective truth,

791
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: whereas things so many things that I thought were correct,

792
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I discovered I was incorrect. So many things I believed

793
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: I later found out that they were either untrue or

794
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: I definitely couldn't prove that they were true. And the

795
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: problem is that, and we're digressing now. But you know,

796
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: it's when what you think and what you believe is

797
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: very emotional for you, and it's intertwined with who you are. Well,

798
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 1: of course you're not open minded about that. Of course

799
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: you closed minded because you don't want to be wrong,

800
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: and there's no room in there for being wrong. Therefore

801
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm right, and I think the you know, when we

802
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: talk about really evolving and really having opening the consciousness

803
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: door and the awareness door you've got to go. Do

804
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: you know what I reckon? I'm wrong fucking thirty percent

805
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: of the time, maybe fifty. There's so many things that

806
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: I've been wrong about. I would be literally unintelligent if

807
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: I thought that all of these ten things that I

808
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: absolutely think are true, that there wasn't some room in

809
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: my ego to go probably not all true, probably a

810
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: bit wrong or completely wrong some of them. Like this

811
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: is personal growth. Personal growth is letting go of and

812
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: being okay with being wrong and incorrect. And embarrassed and

813
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: a failure, because that's just humanity.

814
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: How often do you evaluate? I guess your personal life,

815
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: you're the time you have away or need a way.

816
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I've been on a few holidays

817
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, the last two years. I

818
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: went on a little trip each time and got away,

819
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: and I feel like you don't. Haven't been overseas or

820
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: on a big break for a long time. Do you

821
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: miss that? Do you do you plan to do that

822
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: in future? Or have you settled in kind of a

823
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: bit of a did you.

824
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Talk to my mum this morning? Have you been chatting

825
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: to Mary?

826
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: You're going on holiday or is she to go on

827
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: a holiday?

828
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: I took her on and Mary to Queensland a couple

829
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: of years ago then just when Ron had begun begun

830
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: his physiological slide.

831
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: That was fun.

832
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Bless their little socks. That's a good question. So like,

833
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: for example, next week, I'm going to the Gold Coast.

834
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm going for two days and staying in a beautiful

835
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: place looking at the ocean. And I know that's not

836
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: a holiday, but it's a little mini holiday and I'm

837
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: by myself, so I go there, I talk for a

838
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: bit I'm away for forty eight hours or so, I'm

839
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: working for half a day three four hours. So I

840
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: do have little mini sabbaticals there, and I have quite

841
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: a few of those through the year. I will say

842
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: that full disclosure, full awareness, or as aware as I

843
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: think I can be. The last five years for me,

844
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: with work with podcasts, with corporate, with you know, UNI

845
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: has been very It hasn't had a lot of that

846
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of balance. At the same time, I don't get

847
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 1: very very gratefully. I think this is more. I often

848
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: say I don't have great genetics, but I feel like

849
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 1: I might have pretty good genetics in that I don't

850
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: naturally get very depressed or anxious or super worried. So

851
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: I think even though I am business a business, even

852
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: though I am even though I am happening.

853
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: Does sound ridiculous when someone else is it.

854
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: Even though even though I'm busy, busy, there's not a

855
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: lot of stress attached to the business.

856
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: You know.

857
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: But having said that, I feel like I'm justifying a

858
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: case in a court room.

859
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: Your it interests me. Right. The other day, I think

860
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: it was last Friday, in the middle of the day,

861
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: I got this my bottom lid of my eye just twitching, twitching, twitching,

862
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: twitching to the point for hours all day until the evening.

863
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: It's the point where I was googling, what what I've

864
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: got this fucking eye twitch? What's was my eye twitching?

865
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: And it's like, ah, stress, anxiety, underslept, caffeine. So it

866
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: was all the negatives. Oh and then that night I

867
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: went to sleep, woke up after an how it stayed

868
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: awake all night, didn't sleep, And I was like, this

869
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: is funny because I feel good. There's a lot of

870
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 2: good and there's been a lot of excitement lady lately.

871
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a version of stress. I think when you're

872
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 2: always a bit amped and excited, stress on the nervous

873
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: system of some form. But I was like, it's interesting

874
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: that a couple of symptoms align and tell me you

875
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: could be under stress. But psychologically I feel fine, and

876
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: I perceive myself as I'm in a really good place.

877
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, well, what's true? Which is true?

878
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: That? That is a good point. That is a good point.

879
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: I think I probably bullshit myself sometimes I don't feel

880
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: like I do, but I must.

881
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: I must if I'm being honest.

882
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: And also, yeah, your body knows like Your body doesn't

883
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: make shit up. Your mind does. Like your body is

884
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: just truth. Your body is just it information, you know,

885
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: bio feedback. That's that's not an opinion or an idea.

886
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: That's just data.

887
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: Now, whether or not you ignore the data or pay

888
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: attention to the data, you know, and that data could

889
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: be Wow, my Wii looks like Pasciona. Maybe I'm dehydrated,

890
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: or I haven't had a pooh since late January, or

891
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: or I've had, you know, twenty skin cancers cut off

892
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: in the last five years, you know, I mean whatever.

893
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, It's like your body's always telling you stuff.

894
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: You know, if you check your heart rate in the

895
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: morning and it's normally sixty and today at seventy, well

896
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: you're probably stressed or anxious or under recovered or underslept

897
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: or a combination thereof. Because your heart rate is not

898
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: an opinion. Your heart rate is just data.

899
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: You know.

900
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: I am currently back down to fifty two beats a

901
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: minute resting since not doing stupid intensity every single day.

902
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: So I kind of go for that style of training

903
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: now every maybe two or three times a week. And yeah,

904
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: which is interesting because you know, I told you as

905
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: soon as I've got to Tazzy. It dropped. Soon as

906
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: I've got timlays it dropped. I was like, what am

907
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: I doing wrong? Well, fucking you've been saying your training

908
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: is not recovering for a while, so that's a positive.

909
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: I think it's good. I think all the stuff you're

910
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 3: doing is like you're doing new things, you know. I

911
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: just think it's great for us all to for a

912
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: range of reasons to you know.

913
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Depending on your situation and flexibility and all of that,

914
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: but if possible, you know, do new things, try new things,

915
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: have new experiences, have new conversations, go into new rooms.

916
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: You know, be bad at something, be happily bad at something,

917
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: be bad, be terrible, and then go I'm fucking terrible,

918
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: but I'm going to get better.

919
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: Like that's the that's the excitement. Yeah, you know.

920
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: It's like I love training people who've never lifted a

921
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: weight and you get them in the gym. They're fucking hopeless,

922
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: they're terrible, they've got no strength, and you're like, here's

923
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: the great news. One, you doing okay, Like this is

924
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: the of course, just shit at this, of course. Two,

925
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: here's the good news. You've got way more room for

926
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: improvement and growth and potential and development than me. You know.

927
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: It's like this is the beauty of doing new things. Yeah,

928
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: and improving oneself. It's always good to chat to you, Cookie,

929
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: you'd be good. Keep practicing the piano, keep feeding the

930
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: cat and the dog, and I'll see it soon.

931
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Speaker 2: Helps