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Speaker 1: They're fitsy and with Kate Richie.

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Speaker 2: Podcast lead story today which everybody is talking about is

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Speaker 2: this photo out of the UK and we saw it

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Speaker 2: yesterday fits where it was meant to be a sense

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Speaker 2: of confirmation that everything was okay with Caate Middleton and

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Speaker 2: the Royal family and a photo of her and the

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Speaker 2: three kids.

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Speaker 3: Was released and then all hell broke loose because the

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Speaker 3: reports were that it was photoshop, that it was ai.

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Speaker 3: There was details regarding the hands, the amount of fingers,

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Speaker 3: the face that was actually taken from the front of

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Speaker 3: a Vogue cat magazine and then issued last night very

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Speaker 3: late in the piece our time was the statement from

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Speaker 3: Kate Middleton herself apologizing that she's an amateur with photoshop. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who in They're right mind one is

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Speaker 3: behind this and suggesting that Kate should take the blame

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Speaker 3: for the photoshop because never ever has a photo been

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Speaker 3: released by the Royal family and it been photoshopped by

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Speaker 3: the member self.

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Speaker 4: The thing that I find funny is that they're trying

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Speaker 4: to make Kate.

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Speaker 2: Look relatable like every other.

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Speaker 4: At home on photoshop on the computer on a Commodore

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Speaker 4: sixty four at home, trying to change a few things.

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Speaker 4: If you actually look closely at the photo, you can

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Speaker 4: see the strings on her hands from the puppeteers of

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Speaker 4: the faceless people that run the Royal fan.

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Speaker 3: Very well, you see if you think, I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: quite insulting by the pr team at the Palace and

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Speaker 3: the Royal family. It's quite insulting that they would think

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Speaker 3: the public would believe that Kate Middleton has been has

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Speaker 3: amateur skills on photoshop and that's why there was an error.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: But the thing is with Kate though, they have prided

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Speaker 5: themselves on the fact that when they do release family photos,

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Speaker 5: they have been taken with her little camera. Do you

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Speaker 5: know I think that is I have Look, I'm a

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Speaker 5: I'm a Royal fan. I love Kate. I've even worn

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Speaker 5: my Polka dots today in memory of it. That makes

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Speaker 5: it sound like.

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Speaker 3: What does she go on Diana's Poko dots?

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Speaker 4: Can we know? Can we go to the UK? Let's

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Speaker 4: go to London right now. Hugh Whitfield's over there, he's

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Speaker 4: the seven years European Bureau Chief.

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Speaker 1: Hugh.

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Speaker 4: We saw a photo this morning of Kate in a car,

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Speaker 4: but she was sort of you saw of the back

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Speaker 4: of her. Is it confirmed that it was her. Hue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good morning guys. Look, I guess we don't really

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Speaker 1: know what to believe anymore. But these photos that you'll

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Speaker 1: see on the TV today were taken by essentially paparazzi,

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Speaker 1: So they say that they saw Kate and the Palace

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Speaker 1: said that, yes, Kate was in the car with William.

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Speaker 1: Now this is the first time that we've seen the

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Speaker 1: Prince and Princess of Wales together. In Christmas Day, we've

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Speaker 1: seen William, you know, we saw him come and go

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Speaker 1: from the hospital when she was in hospital, a few engagements,

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Speaker 1: and then Kate in this photo that was released on

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Speaker 1: the weekend, which were not even or is genuine in

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Speaker 1: any way anymore. We're told that Kate was going to

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Speaker 1: a private appointment. William was on his way into London

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Speaker 1: from Windsor for the Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey,

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Speaker 1: so she essentially must have jumped a ride. But it

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Speaker 1: is very clear that this was Proos's life. Essentially to

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Speaker 1: show that all these conspiracy theories that we tried to

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Speaker 1: damp in with the Mother's Day photo that then we

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Speaker 1: inflamed even more, we're going to try and damp them again.

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Speaker 3: So she if you heard what we said earlier, are

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Speaker 3: you completely baffled by the suggestion to the public that

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Speaker 3: Kate was in charge of photo shopping shoes an amateur

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Speaker 3: and therefore that's why the photo looks doctor.

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Speaker 1: I think like the context of this broadly is this

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Speaker 1: is the dumbest pr thing that I never really come across,

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Speaker 1: because no one seems to get the story straight. And

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Speaker 1: what we really actually don't know is at what point

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Speaker 1: was the photo handed over to the press team to

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Speaker 1: post on the Twitter account and Instagram account, And did

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Speaker 1: the press team know that Kate or William and Kate

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Speaker 1: were at Adelaide cottage at their home Fiddler fiddling around

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Speaker 1: on photo on photoshop late at night, and then did

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Speaker 1: they tell their press team. Was the press team aware

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Speaker 1: so that when the press was asking questions, did they

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Speaker 1: actually have that information always everybody in on it? And

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Speaker 1: were they advised to give it out? Because on first look,

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Speaker 1: when we got the photo on the weekend, a nice photo, great,

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Speaker 1: she's looking happy at home. It takes time to go

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Speaker 1: digging deeper, and I guess, you know, do you You've

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Speaker 1: got to trust your client. So I think if it's

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Speaker 1: William who took the photo like it comes back to

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Speaker 1: both of them.

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Speaker 5: Can I just ask a question that I seem I'm

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Speaker 5: still confused about when there were stories yesterday saying with

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Speaker 5: the headlines about mandatory kill on the photo right, so

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Speaker 5: which could be it was excellent clickbait, but it basically

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Speaker 5: said that the photo was not to be distributed. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: I'm so confused in my head, So do not use

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Speaker 5: the photo anymore? Was that instruction from the palace that

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Speaker 5: it was no longer meant to be used or was

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Speaker 5: it from the public, you know, the Associated Press or

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Speaker 5: whoever it was saying we now know this photos being

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Speaker 5: doctored and we will not be misled in this way.

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Speaker 5: Do not reproduce it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's the latter case. So it's the editorial

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Speaker 1: decision of these big photo agencies like the Press Association

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Speaker 1: like Associated Press and Voiters and the like, who received

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Speaker 1: photos from freelance photographers, their own star photographers and people

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Speaker 1: that they trust to distribute to their client. In this case,

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Speaker 1: there's an existing relationship between the palaces were all Buckingham

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Speaker 1: and Tendington YEP, and they hand over these photos to

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Speaker 1: the press agencies to distribute to their clients for free

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Speaker 1: now that trust is broken, and if you're going to

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Speaker 1: hand over edited, manipulated, altered photographs without actually telling the

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Speaker 1: full story, we don't know what the original look like,

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Speaker 1: so we don't know how much it's actually been manipulated

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Speaker 1: and how much it actually changes the story of what

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Speaker 1: we're being told.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hugh, before you go, I mean you're in the

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Speaker 4: thick of the action over there, Hugh, what do you

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Speaker 4: honestly believe? Because look, we think it's either two scenarios.

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Speaker 4: There's health problems that she's having, or there's problems within

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Speaker 4: the marriage and that's why she hasn't seen William or

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Speaker 4: been with William for a while. What's your theory here?

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Speaker 1: Look, I think we have to unless there's like a

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Speaker 1: smoking gun evidence to say that Kate wasn't in hospital,

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Speaker 1: I think we have to go with Kate has a

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Speaker 1: health problem, had a health problem, was being treated, and

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Speaker 1: she was out of action on the marriage too. I

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Speaker 1: think like that there's all sorts of white theories that

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Speaker 1: have been running for ages. The only thing I would

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Speaker 1: say is the photo today doesn't look good. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good.

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Speaker 3: Interesting too, that none of the British press ran the

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Speaker 3: photo of Kate Middleton and her mum because there was

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Speaker 3: a pap shot only America did so are they running

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Speaker 3: the photo in the UK today of the pap shot?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely in the car they are. Absolutely it's game on.

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Speaker 1: It's game on because trust is broken. Yeah, and no

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Speaker 1: one's willing to be screwed over again.

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Speaker 5: We can't be fed to the photos now we have

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Speaker 5: to go to if it was a health problem.

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Speaker 4: Why can't they just come out though, Kate and just

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Speaker 4: say I.

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Speaker 5: Had this discussion with my mother last night and she

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Speaker 5: was my mum was mortified that I'd be even talking

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Speaker 5: about the Royals on the radio and say something, you know,

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Speaker 5: highly critical of the Royal family. But I mean there

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Speaker 5: is I know that they are it's taxpayers money and

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Speaker 5: all of that, and they they are owed some kind

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Speaker 5: of explanation. But sometimes health issues are your private issues,

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Speaker 5: whether you are Kate Middleton or not.

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Speaker 3: Or Kate Richie. You know, yes, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean putting us in the same sentence.

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Speaker 4: When you're Kate Middleton, that's it's not your private issue.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 4: And when there's so much speculation now you could well,

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Speaker 4: but why can't the Royal family just come out and

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Speaker 4: just say look that this is a medical problem that

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Speaker 4: we can't talk about right now. That's all what they've said.

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Speaker 3: No, no they haven't, they haven't given.

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Speaker 5: Ithing, but initially they said she had abdomino.

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Speaker 3: Three weeks in hospital. Let's cross to Heather Richie who's

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Speaker 3: in Cambertown now for an update.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Hugh.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate your time and to have bus you. Thanks you.

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