Speaker 1: On scoring lis Ostrodia. This is the Wider Paney Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panekey Show.
Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, we'll have a packed program for you.
Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antique will be here to discuss the coalitions
Speaker 3: at zero conundrum. Douglas Murray will join you to discuss
Speaker 3: Britain's blasphemy laws and he also has a few words
Speaker 3: of advice for preachy rock star Bono.
Speaker 2: The Victorian government's reckless.
Speaker 3: Economic agenda is again under the spotlight ten and McQueen
Speaker 3: will weigh in on that, and later in the hour
Speaker 3: Army Horowitz. We'll have the latest from the US.
Speaker 2: And Left is Losing.
Speaker 3: It features Greta Thumberg and friends as they sail to
Speaker 3: Gaza and they've already run into trouble.
Speaker 4: We need your helps this and.
Speaker 5: This is lessens Red.
Speaker 3: But first joining me now is Liberal Senator Alex Antique.
Speaker 2: Alex, you were the driving force.
Speaker 3: Behind I'm the South Australian Liberal Party's recent decision to
Speaker 3: abandon net zero by twenty fifty, and you called on
Speaker 3: the Federal Libs to also walk away from net zero.
Speaker 3: But just hours later, the South Australian Liberal leader pulled
Speaker 3: cold water on the move, telling reporters that none of
Speaker 3: these policy discussions bind any of the parliamentary wings of
Speaker 3: the party.
Speaker 2: Tell my audience what's going on.
Speaker 3: Are the South Australian Libs walking away from net zero
Speaker 3: or are you sort of still half pregnant?
Speaker 6: Well, look, Rita, what we're talking about actually was a
Speaker 6: was a motion that went through our State Council of
Speaker 6: the Liberal Party meets quarterly and for pre selections.
Speaker 1: But this is just a routine meeting.
Speaker 6: There are a number of party members and others who
Speaker 6: were involved in putting forward a policy discussion about whether
Speaker 6: or not the federal Parliamentary Party should be continuing to
Speaker 6: press on with net zero supporting net zero, and the
Speaker 6: overwhelming response was no, it shouldn't be, which was very
Speaker 6: very encouraging, and that motion was passed and so the
Speaker 6: Parliamentary Party, I guess, have received that message from the
Speaker 6: South Australian division that the members here don't want that
Speaker 6: support to continue, and they don't want it for good reason.
Speaker 6: I mean for a whole range of reasons, but for
Speaker 6: all the reasons we've been talking about for a very
Speaker 6: long period of time. Net zero in itself is really
Speaker 6: nothing more than a than a catch cry from a
Speaker 6: time gone by. Really, I've been saying it's a sort
Speaker 6: of a cash cry from a globalist bureaucrats who are
Speaker 6: really doing nothing more than making China rich at our expense.
Speaker 6: And so I think it's a very good position. I
Speaker 6: hope it's adopted by the Federal Party. The State Party,
Speaker 6: of course, weren't actually mentioned in the motion. They have
Speaker 6: their own position and that's fair enough too. But ultimately
Speaker 6: this comes back to listening to our members, which is
Speaker 6: what we are here to do and we should.
Speaker 1: Continue to do so.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: So far we haven't had really any clarity from the
Speaker 3: new Liberal leader Sas and Leon net zero under review
Speaker 3: with a bunch of other policies.
Speaker 2: But how much longer is that going going to take?
Speaker 3: Alex, Surely the party knows where it stands on this
Speaker 3: crucial issue. You've back net zero and lost two elections badly.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what the confusion is here. Surely, if
Speaker 3: you want to provide the Australian public with a clear
Speaker 3: choice on this crucial policy area, you have to back away.
Speaker 6: Well, let me start off by telling you what my
Speaker 6: own view on the issue of the so called climate
Speaker 6: wars is and that is that we should be providing
Speaker 6: the cheapest possible power we can possibly provide, which of
Speaker 6: course comes back to colon gas, and we should be
Speaker 6: doing that. Senator Matt Canavan and I were I think
Speaker 6: some of the only, if not the only, members of
Speaker 6: the Coalition who opposed the flip to net zero during
Speaker 6: the Morrison era in two thousand and twenty two or
Speaker 6: twenty one, whenever it was at the end of that term.
Speaker 6: And actually, if you look back on the history of it,
Speaker 6: we went to the two thousand nineteen election with the
Speaker 6: very strong message that we're going to save the weekend
Speaker 6: and with no net zero policy, and had, of course
Speaker 6: for a range of reasons, but that being one of them,
Speaker 6: a very very strong return from the electorate compared to
Speaker 6: the following two elections which have been no good, the last.
Speaker 1: One being the worst when we've adopted net zero.
Speaker 6: Now, obviously there are multitude of factors here, but putting
Speaker 6: Australia first has got to mean dumping net zero, and
Speaker 6: I hope we do come to that position, and I
Speaker 6: hope we come to it quickly.
Speaker 1: As a party.
Speaker 3: Absolutely twenty nineteen, you won the unwinnable election and energy policy.
Speaker 3: Remember they called it a referendum on climate change policies
Speaker 3: and the coalition one. Now the UK government has announced
Speaker 3: over neither. They're going to be overhauling their defense budget.
Speaker 3: They'll be increasing the budget at two point five percent
Speaker 3: of GDP by twenty twenty seven. The US is pushing
Speaker 3: Australia to lift our defense spending, but the Prime Minister is.
Speaker 2: So far refusing.
Speaker 3: Apparently the UK is a very different place to Australia.
Speaker 8: The UK's in a different place from Australia. We determine
Speaker 8: our defense policy. Here where a sovereign nation that need
Speaker 8: to have pride in our sovereignty and in our capacity
Speaker 8: to make decisions in our national interest.
Speaker 3: Alex the PM is talking tough there. He wasn't so
Speaker 3: tough when Chinese warships were doing live fire exercises and
Speaker 3: we're detected just one hundred and fifty nautical miles from Sydney.
Speaker 3: But so far he is refusing to entertain increased spending
Speaker 3: on defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's one for the Prime Minister. I
Speaker 6: mean this is the Prime Minister, of course, who suggested
Speaker 6: that the President of the United States scared the excrement
Speaker 6: out of him a while back. So maybe that's hard
Speaker 6: to do it. I don't know, but I would have
Speaker 6: thought that protecting Australia's borders was the number one priority
Speaker 6: of a prime minister in a government, and defense spending
Speaker 6: would be one of them. And this is very consistent
Speaker 6: with what the Trump administration has been doing all over
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 1: It's no surprise. It shouldn't be a surprise to this government.
Speaker 6: They've seen them the pitch for higher spending throughout Europe
Speaker 6: for a long time, in fact, going back to the
Speaker 6: first Trump Trump administration, and why should Australia be any different.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, this government can find money for
Speaker 6: all sorts of things, including hundreds and hundreds of millions
Speaker 6: of dollars for the Voice referendum, to build larger bureaucracies,
Speaker 6: to Bricky and their mates in Canberra, and for a
Speaker 6: whole range of you so called intermittent power. They don't
Speaker 6: call them that, We're going to call them that intermittent power,
Speaker 6: not renewable power subsidies all over the country. But they
Speaker 6: can't find money to defend our borders. I mean, where
Speaker 6: are the priorities of this government? We need a government
Speaker 6: that's Australia first, and spending on defense is high on
Speaker 6: the priority list.
Speaker 1: They would have thought.
Speaker 3: Now the Prime Minister has left proposed to peranuation tax
Speaker 3: hikes open to negotiation in an effort to possibly sideline
Speaker 3: the Greens in the Senate and strike a deal with
Speaker 3: the Coalition instead. But Alex, surely any coalition backing of
Speaker 3: this tax hike has to exclude the plan to tax
Speaker 3: unrealized capital gains.
Speaker 2: That has to go.
Speaker 6: Well, look, reader, I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: it's very simple. We are the party of low taxes
Speaker 6: and of small government and we need to be very
Speaker 6: resolute on that. I mean, you know, it is true
Speaker 6: to say that this Senate in particular is going to
Speaker 6: provide an interesting series of decisions for leadership team. I
Speaker 6: mean there are now I think they need the Coalition
Speaker 6: or the Greens to pass laws on one side of
Speaker 6: the fence. You'd have an argument that allowing the Greens
Speaker 6: to be negotiated with over the top of us will
Speaker 6: mean that we get worse law turned into even worse law.
Speaker 6: But my position on this, for what it's worth, my
Speaker 6: personal position is that the Liberal Party should always be
Speaker 6: true to its core beliefs, the we believe statement, and
Speaker 6: we should always stand for lower taxes, and that doesn't
Speaker 6: always mean doing a deal, even if it means a
Speaker 6: worse result in some instances. I think in some cases
Speaker 6: we need to just simply allow Labor and the Greens
Speaker 6: to show what they're made of here, and we need
Speaker 6: to be resolute and sell that message to the Australian
Speaker 6: people that will always be lower taxed under a Liberal
Speaker 6: coalition government.
Speaker 3: Now, a lot has been said about the Liberal Party
Speaker 3: and young voters, so.
Speaker 2: Let's just hear now from some young Liberals.
Speaker 9: There's people on the conservative side of politics that say
Speaker 9: the Coalition needs to go further to the right. That's
Speaker 9: why they're losing the election. If the Coalition needed to
Speaker 9: go further to the right, one nation would be in government.
Speaker 9: But they're not what we had on election day with
Speaker 9: a message from the Australian people.
Speaker 8: And it's up to us now to listen and to learn,
Speaker 8: and I'm confident that the party will do that.
Speaker 3: I think there is a little bit of a misconception
Speaker 3: that for the Liberals are these.
Speaker 2: Big bad guys, or that they have some kind of
Speaker 2: very extreme viewer who old. I think that's inherently incorrect.
Speaker 6: I think the more important thing to do is to
Speaker 6: sort of go, Okay, what does it mean to.
Speaker 10: Be a conservative in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: So what does it mean to be sort of socially progressive.
Speaker 2: But economically a bit more liberal? How does that frame now? Alex?
Speaker 3: I don't want to be unkind, but if that's the
Speaker 3: future of the Liberals, maybe you should just wind up
Speaker 3: the party now and find some new projects.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I mean, I think reader, I mean, actually
Speaker 6: I know all three in some degree, and they're all
Speaker 6: very good young people, I have to say, But we
Speaker 6: are dealing with the ABC, and the ABC does find
Speaker 6: a way to prosecute its own view of the world
Speaker 6: in many instances in.
Speaker 1: A way that which you would expect they would.
Speaker 6: And I think in many instances, you know, we could
Speaker 6: have found probably, you know, if you give it, if
Speaker 6: the ABC had contacted me and given me a heads up,
Speaker 6: I could have probably found seventy young people that might
Speaker 6: have taken a different view. But that's the way it is.
Speaker 6: It is, as they say, a broad Church, and look,
Speaker 6: we're not always going to agree. What I would say, though,
Speaker 6: is that this narrative that somehow the Liberal Party, particularly
Speaker 6: here in South Australia, has gone hard right or far
Speaker 6: right or whatever, and that only applies if you're coming
Speaker 6: from the hard left, as far as I was always,
Speaker 6: I'm only far right to the far left. And what
Speaker 6: we're talking about is getting the party back to a
Speaker 6: position where it's talking about the issues that are important
Speaker 6: to middle Australia. And I challenge anyone to tell us
Speaker 6: anything about the sort of policies that I would you know,
Speaker 6: push that are in that category. I think they're all
Speaker 6: very sensible and I think a lot of mainstream Australians
Speaker 6: would agree. So I think it says more about the
Speaker 6: ABC than it does any of our young liberals.
Speaker 2: Frankly, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now before you go earlier today, the latest GDP figures
Speaker 3: were released and it's not great for the economy. Australia's
Speaker 3: GDP increased by just zero point two percent in the
Speaker 3: March quarter. That's lower than the zero point six percent
Speaker 3: we saw in December and lower than the expectations that
Speaker 3: economists had Alex. The key figure here is the per
Speaker 3: capita figure. GDP per capita has gone back zero point
Speaker 3: four percent, and that's really what impacts people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and of course we've seen similar stats over
Speaker 6: the last quarter or so about the decline in disposable income.
Speaker 6: We're now i think leading the Western world leading I
Speaker 6: use that term very loosely. I think eight percent. We've
Speaker 6: gone backwards over the last term. And I mean, look,
Speaker 6: this is just unfortunately we're we're up to I mean,
Speaker 6: we are, as we have said many times under this
Speaker 6: government and under this ethos, a nation in decline, sadly.
Speaker 6: And look, our job is to provide a strong alternative,
Speaker 6: both economically.
Speaker 1: And I would say culturally.
Speaker 6: And you know, we're just unfortunately it's going to be
Speaker 6: a rough ride the next three years for Australian so
Speaker 6: we just have to do everything we can to push
Speaker 6: back on that.
Speaker 3: Well, this is what's so remarkable. Yes, it was a
Speaker 3: very lackluster election campaign from the Libs, but Australia has
Speaker 3: just seen the biggest drop in living standards in the
Speaker 3: developed world and the party that oversaw that has been
Speaker 3: returned in our landslide. What does that say about the
Speaker 3: election campaign that the Libs ran.
Speaker 6: Well, look, i mean we've been a lot said about it.
Speaker 6: I'veset a lot about it as well. I think it
Speaker 6: needs to be properly reviewed, of course, but I would
Speaker 6: say from the outset that we need to be very
Speaker 6: clear about what we stand for, and I don't think
Speaker 6: that the campaign.
Speaker 1: Did that, and did it on a range of reasons. Look,
Speaker 1: this is what we're.
Speaker 6: Talking about when we're saying getting the party back to
Speaker 6: what middle Australia is talking about.
Speaker 1: We can't be frightened of issues which.
Speaker 6: The left push, which are otherwise seen as being radioactive.
Speaker 6: Most mainstream Australians are talking about them, be they economic,
Speaker 6: be they cultural, and we have to be out and
Speaker 6: loud and proud about it. And it's as simple as that.
Speaker 6: And that's my hope for the next election cycles that
Speaker 6: we start putting some clear alternatives and non labor light alternatives.
Speaker 3: Yes, non labor light being the keywords. They're sent to Alexandchik.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time tonight.
Speaker 1: Thanks reader.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is one of the finest thinkers of
Speaker 3: his generation, best selling author Douglas Murray Douglas, We've got
Speaker 3: plenty to discuss today. Let's start with Bono, the preachy
Speaker 3: YouTube front man with a history of questionable tax arrangements.
Speaker 2: He's had some thoughts about usaid.
Speaker 1: It's not proven.
Speaker 11: But there's surveillance enough suggests three hundred thousand people have
Speaker 11: already died from just this.
Speaker 2: Cut off, this hard cut of USAID.
Speaker 3: Douglas, we've got Bill Gates also making all sorts of
Speaker 3: bold claims.
Speaker 2: He's saying millions of debts.
Speaker 3: Will this sort of advocacy for USAID have any effect?
Speaker 1: No, it won't.
Speaker 12: I think, as far as we know, the judgment of
Speaker 12: Elon Ask, the Doge team, and indeed President Trump was
Speaker 12: that they looked under the bonnet of what was there
Speaker 12: at USAID, looked to see if there was anything worth salvageable,
Speaker 12: and decided that the whole thing was so rotten and
Speaker 12: there was so much unaccountability that it just.
Speaker 1: Wasn't worth saving. It was worth scrapping.
Speaker 12: I'm always loath to hear from Bono pretty much about
Speaker 12: any subject other than singing with You two, which he's
Speaker 12: great at. But whenever something like him talks like this,
Speaker 12: they always seem to forget. This isn't their money to
Speaker 12: give away. To his credit, Bill Gates says that he's
Speaker 12: going to give away his money and give it away
Speaker 12: to Africa, and we'll see if he does that.
Speaker 1: But when Bono speaks like this.
Speaker 4: He seems to forget.
Speaker 1: This isn't just.
Speaker 12: The sort of free money from something. This is money
Speaker 12: that American taxpayers work for and hand over to the
Speaker 12: federal government to be well used. And the is that
Speaker 12: USAID's money was not well used. It was an incredibly
Speaker 12: political entity, whether as I say, very little accountability. It
Speaker 12: just it just hosed money out, particularly toward the end
Speaker 12: of Biden's time in office, if you can say he
Speaker 12: was actually in office. It just holds money out because
Speaker 12: they want to be able to demonstrate that they're giving
Speaker 12: out money. Well, I'd rather see that they're actually doing
Speaker 12: some good with that money. But yes, it's very easy
Speaker 12: for you, write bono to be very generous with other
Speaker 12: people's money.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think people's eyes have been open to this
Speaker 3: sort of activism. USIID was funding around the world, as
Speaker 3: so many of these movements will be wondering where they're
Speaker 3: getting the money from. Where's this organic, sort of grassroots movement.
Speaker 3: It never was that it was taxpayers unwishingly funding this madness.
Speaker 2: Now, Douglas, it's happened again.
Speaker 3: Kirstarma is again tweeting like his Donald Trump and angry
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. He posted, you have every right to be
Speaker 3: angry about small boat crossings. I'm angry too, and he's
Speaker 3: promised all sorts of action there. But that was the
Speaker 3: number of people claiming asylum in the UK in the
Speaker 3: past year in twenty twenty four was the highest since
Speaker 3: records began.
Speaker 2: They're not really doing much to solve.
Speaker 12: This issue, no, I mean, Kirs Starmer says, you know
Speaker 12: in a tweet, I'm angry in order to try to
Speaker 12: placate the actual real anger of the British public, who
Speaker 12: just whether it's conservative or labor, the migration just keeps
Speaker 12: going up, up and up endlessly, so that just illegal
Speaker 12: boat crossings across the channel in a single day again
Speaker 12: the other day were about eleven hundred people, well the
Speaker 12: one thousand people arriving illegally in a day. And what's
Speaker 12: the point of having laws, what's the point of even
Speaker 12: pretending you have borders, let alone pretending that you're angry
Speaker 12: when they are they're being infringed, when they're being infringed
Speaker 12: every single day, when the law is being made to
Speaker 12: look like an ass every single day. And if Arma
Speaker 12: actually wants to demonstrate that he feels angry about this,
Speaker 12: he shouldn't just send out a tweet he should start
Speaker 12: the forced deportation of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions,
Speaker 12: of people who have broken into the UK illegally.
Speaker 1: Is he going to do that?
Speaker 12: We'll see.
Speaker 2: Probably unlikely.
Speaker 3: Staying in the UK, one has to ask does the
Speaker 3: country now have quasi blasphemy laws or perhaps I should
Speaker 3: just call them blasphemy laws. We have a man who
Speaker 3: burnt a copy of the Koran, his own copy and
Speaker 3: shouted in Turkish that Islam is religion of terrorism. Well,
Speaker 3: Douglas has been convicted of a religiously aggravated public order
Speaker 3: offense and find.
Speaker 12: You're completely right, reader, this is simply a blasphemy law.
Speaker 12: You know, if somebody set light to a Bible, everybody
Speaker 12: will be running out saying this man has an absolute
Speaker 12: right to do so. The churches will be falling over
Speaker 12: themselves to demonstrate it. It will probably win the Turner
Speaker 12: Prize or some other art prize for being so daring.
Speaker 12: But no, the holy book of modern Britain, as so
Speaker 12: many other Western democracies now, is the Qoran.
Speaker 1: It's the holy.
Speaker 12: Book in that even the people who've never opened it
Speaker 12: and don't know what's in it know that that is
Speaker 12: the thing that has to be protected. So whether you're
Speaker 12: an autistic school child in the North of England who
Speaker 12: accidentally drops the Koran on the floor, that child's mother
Speaker 12: will have to sit in front of effectively a Sharia
Speaker 12: council and beg for the life of her child. In
Speaker 12: Britain in the twenty first century, if you're a school
Speaker 12: teacher in Batley and some deranged, semi educated parent alleges
Speaker 12: that a teacher has said something blasphemous about Islam, then
Speaker 12: that teacher goes into and is still in hiding to
Speaker 12: this day. And if you burn a Koran, it turns
Speaker 12: out that's the holy book. That's the thing you mustn't touch.
Speaker 12: It's not just a blasphemy law. It's a blasphemy law
Speaker 12: that the state is allowing to be pushed through by
Speaker 12: threat of force. Because nobody is doing an argument here.
Speaker 12: You know, there's no good argument for why the Quran
Speaker 12: has to be treated as the holiest of holy books. No,
Speaker 12: it's only that intimidation, violence and thuggery seems to work.
Speaker 12: And I thought that was the sort of thing that
Speaker 12: the law was there to protect us against.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now let's go to the US and you've written in
Speaker 3: the Spectator about the derangement of Harvard. The Ivyla College
Speaker 3: is currently at war with the Trump administration. We had
Speaker 3: those a thirty more than thirty Harvard University student organization
Speaker 3: signing a letter Douglas literally whilst October seven, Victims was
Speaker 3: still being uncovered blaming the Israeli regime entirely for the
Speaker 3: unfolding violence. Tell me what's happening at Harvard. How did
Speaker 3: this prestigious Ivyley College become such a hot bit of
Speaker 3: hatred and hostility.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, it's well documented. As you said, Rita,
Speaker 12: the students of places like Harvard, from the seventh of
Speaker 12: October twenty twenty three onwards were making it clear.
Speaker 1: Which side they were on.
Speaker 12: They were saying in a joint letter written on the
Speaker 12: seventh of October that the Israeli government, not Hamas the
Speaker 12: Israeli government was responsible for all violence. And since then
Speaker 12: students at Harvard and other elite universities have been allowed
Speaker 12: to rampage across university, shut down student accommodations and places
Speaker 12: of study, intimidate and beat up employees, and basically act
Speaker 12: as low level copycats of the thugs of Hamas, and
Speaker 12: they seem to admire so much, but the real thing
Speaker 12: is Rita. We should all congratulate these students at Harvard
Speaker 12: and Princeton and Columbia and elsewhere. Congratulations to them. They've
Speaker 12: spent the last eighteen or so months calling for the
Speaker 12: inter farda, the uprising, a violent terrorist uprising, to be globalized.
Speaker 12: And well done, guys, You've got your way, because not
Speaker 12: only do you have two people shot in the streets
Speaker 12: of Washington, d c. On suspicion of being Jewish, you
Speaker 12: now have in Colorado the Islamists, supporters of Hamaz trying
Speaker 12: to burn to death Jewish people who are trying to
Speaker 12: call for the peaceful release of the hostages still being
Speaker 12: held by Hamas in Gaza. So well done, students at Harvard,
Speaker 12: Well done, all the students at Princeton and Yale and
Speaker 12: the rest of them. You're getting your globalized into Farda.
Speaker 12: I hope you love it. Well.
Speaker 3: We have that scene, that shocking rise in anti Semitic
Speaker 3: violence in the US, the two incidents you mentioned, and
Speaker 3: just a short time before that, a matter of weeks
Speaker 3: we had a governor's house burned down. It's just such
Speaker 3: an escalation. And yet, Douglas, if it was a right
Speaker 3: wing movement behind these acts one after another, I would
Speaker 3: imagine the reaction would be a little bit more serious
Speaker 3: than what we're getting here. Because these are targeted attacks.
Speaker 3: There are an acts of domestic terrorism, and I wonder
Speaker 3: whether the authorities are looking at them as seriously as
Speaker 3: they should.
Speaker 12: Well, we've got equivalents we can pull out. I mean,
Speaker 12: how many years was it now? Six years ago or
Speaker 12: so since Jussi Smollett, remember him, a low grade act
Speaker 12: in America, claimed that in the of the night in
Speaker 12: Chicago he had been assaulted by two Maga Trump supporters
Speaker 12: and racially abuse and had a noose put around his
Speaker 12: neck and poison thrown at him and all sorts of
Speaker 12: other things. And he just made alligation, which of course
Speaker 12: turned out to be a total croc. He'd hired two
Speaker 12: big black Nigerian guys to be the local white supremacist
Speaker 12: MAGA people. But anyway, remember when Jesse Smollett pulled that
Speaker 12: fake hoax hate crime. Within hours, every leading Democrat, Kamala Harris,
Speaker 12: all these Hollywood people, all the show hosts all said
Speaker 12: we have to have a reckoning as a country that
Speaker 12: this could happen here, that low grade actors could be
Speaker 12: assaulted by people they've hired from Nigeria to fake hate crime. Oh,
Speaker 12: we've got to have a national rethink of everything, guys.
Speaker 12: But when real things happening in real time and the
Speaker 12: object of the hate is Jews, no, because Jews aren't
Speaker 12: one of the cool minorities in the left wing intersectional world.
Speaker 12: And you know what's not cool with then either is reality.
Speaker 12: They're fine fine talking up the fakes and the hoaxes
Speaker 12: and the ghules and the banshees they imagine are lingering everywhere,
Speaker 12: but when reality is right in front of them, they'll
Speaker 12: continue to do everything they can to avoid it.
Speaker 3: And we've seen the media use some very imaginative words
Speaker 3: instead of saying Jews or pro israel I think one
Speaker 3: of them was pro Gaza hostage release activists. There was
Speaker 3: some bizarre wording that NBC used before you go just
Speaker 3: on Harvard, the university's tolerance anti Semitism and anti Israeli
Speaker 3: sentiment seems boundless. In recent days, we heard another speech
Speaker 3: at a Harvard graduation ceremony, this time by Zarah E.
Speaker 3: Mom again all about Palestine.
Speaker 10: There are no save zones left in US after six
Speaker 10: hundred days and seventy seven years of genocide. I sent
Speaker 10: her Palestine today not just because of its scale of atrocity,
Speaker 10: but because of our complicity in it. Together, we must
Speaker 10: refuse to be ruled by the tyrants of our time,
Speaker 10: because our liberations are intertwined.
Speaker 3: There you go, Douglas, seventy seven years of genocide. These
Speaker 3: are the best and brights. These are Harvard graduates.
Speaker 12: Yeah, she obviously doesn't have a dog in that fight,
Speaker 12: does she? As she's covered in her fear.
Speaker 1: And so on.
Speaker 12: As I just mentioned in the Spectator last week, one
Speaker 12: of the many interesting things is the toxic mix we
Speaker 12: see here of real bigotry and real hatred sectarianism as
Speaker 12: displayed by that young woman there and all the time,
Speaker 12: with the fatal additional mixtures to the cocktail of fanatical
Speaker 12: ignorance and narcissism. And the narcissism is, who do you
Speaker 12: think you are? You're a student at Harvard, You're one
Speaker 12: of the luckiest kids in one of the luckiest generations
Speaker 12: of all time, and you seem to be under the
Speaker 12: impression that the war in the Middle East that Hamas
Speaker 12: started is somehow being directed from Harvard University. And I've
Speaker 12: got news for those students. Neither Hamas nor the Israeli
Speaker 12: government take any direction from Harvard University or any other
Speaker 12: privileged Ivy League campus. There's a world beyond the end
Speaker 12: of your own nos. And these students haven't been taught that.
Speaker 12: They haven't been taught anything. They certainly haven't been taught
Speaker 12: any humility, and so no, they think that the world
Speaker 12: is going to be run on their terms. Well, the
Speaker 12: sooner they grow up and learn otherwise, the better. But
Speaker 12: in the meantime, yes, they'll just continue this toxic cocktail
Speaker 12: of advocacy, endless prejudice against people they feel able to
Speaker 12: be prejudiced against, and wild wild narcissism.
Speaker 3: Douglas Murray beautifully said, thank you so much for your
Speaker 3: time tonight.
Speaker 1: Great pleasure.
Speaker 3: As always, stilt karma Lefty is losing it past. The
Speaker 3: Victorian government's reckless economic agenda is back in the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Tina McQueen is up next. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Tina McQueen.
Speaker 2: Tina, let's start in Victoria.
Speaker 3: We know the state is broke. We've got record debt,
Speaker 3: heist in the country and yet Victorian true still hasn't
Speaker 3: modeled the potential impact of a credit rating downgrade for
Speaker 3: the state, despite strong warnings from ratings agencies that are
Speaker 3: lower credit rating is highly likely if the Victorian government
Speaker 3: continues with its irresponsible spending.
Speaker 13: It's amazing that I can't seem to concern about this, reader,
Speaker 13: And as you said, they've had warnings from global agencies
Speaker 13: to rain in their operating costs. I mean, it's unbelievable
Speaker 13: that the premiers said they'll raise taxes and you know,
Speaker 13: cut where they can. Well, maybe she should start with
Speaker 13: cutting some of the eighty seven staff she has on
Speaker 13: you know, it's just ridiculous. They plan to introduce taxes
Speaker 13: as the what is it, what the congestion levy tax,
Speaker 13: the Emergency Service Fund, and yet she still plans to
Speaker 13: give four hundred dollars to each parents of state school children.
Speaker 13: It's just ridiculous. They haven't got a clue and they're
Speaker 13: going to end up in deep, deep trouble.
Speaker 3: Reader, Well, we've had some revelations in the last couple
Speaker 3: of days. Victorian state government documents released under the.
Speaker 2: Freedom of information.
Speaker 3: Laws have shown that the Dan Andrews government approved six
Speaker 3: point five million dollars in taxpayer funds for a last
Speaker 3: stitch attempt to pump up the Yes Votina, just weeks
Speaker 3: from the referendum. Again, this is a state in financial
Speaker 3: peril and they're spending our taxes on this divisive activism.
Speaker 3: For the record, Teina, the majority of Victorian's voted no.
Speaker 13: Yeah, as we all did. Just unbelievable he would approve this,
Speaker 13: you know they're saying now they didn't actually give the money,
Speaker 13: but who would know the money was approved and went somewhere,
Speaker 13: So we'll never hear the end of that story. Unbelievable reader,
Speaker 13: Such such waste. Another thing I can't believe is they're
Speaker 13: still running COVID nineteen programs and the Premier said she
Speaker 13: planned to, you know, end those. Well why are they
Speaker 13: still running all this time over the disaster COVID period?
Speaker 3: Oh, there are so many questions. Let's go down to
Speaker 3: the Mornington Peninsula. The Shire councilors there have stripped the
Speaker 3: council's bureaucrats of the ability to control how flags are displayed,
Speaker 3: both in print and on poles. After omitting the Australian
Speaker 3: flag from a Shire kinder flyer that displayed the Aboriginal flag.
Speaker 3: It had the Torres Strait Islander flag and the Pride flag.
Speaker 3: No Australian flag. It's shocking enough to you now to
Speaker 3: exclude our national flag, the only one that is actually
Speaker 3: truly inclusive of everybody, but the inclusion of the Pride
Speaker 3: flag is particularly odd.
Speaker 2: We're talking about kindergarten kids here.
Speaker 13: Ah, Look, these people not only should their powers be stripped,
Speaker 13: they should be sacked.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, Rita.
Speaker 13: We really should only have one flag and do inclusive
Speaker 13: for everyone, and we all stand under that flag. It's
Speaker 13: just nuts that they were introduced confusing these young children
Speaker 13: at such an early age with you know, a number
Speaker 13: of different flags. It's just ridiculous. Now, I'm pleased to
Speaker 13: say there's been outrage com communities and rightly so.
Speaker 3: Now before you go, Tina, I've got some amusing footage here.
Speaker 3: Victoria Police has released this CCTV footage of a burglar
Speaker 3: dancing to what police believe was Bruce Springsteen's dancing in
Speaker 3: the dark, just moments before he ran off with around
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars worth of computer equipment from a.
Speaker 2: School in Sunbury.
Speaker 3: The criminal seemed to be quite happy here in Victoria Teena.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the rest of the community.
Speaker 13: Well picked, he picked the right song. I mean, clearly
Speaker 13: he enjoys his works. I don't know what this guy
Speaker 13: was on, but it was just insane, insane footage, and
Speaker 13: I hope they catch up with.
Speaker 2: Him so.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: The lighting seems to be quite strong where he's chosen
Speaker 3: to do his little dad, so yeah, thank god. They
Speaker 3: may catch up with him pretty shortly, but in this state,
Speaker 3: I don't think he.
Speaker 2: Has much to fear. Tina McQueen, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time tonight.
Speaker 13: Thanks Reaver.
Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it. Let's start with
Speaker 3: Greta Thumbberg. She's heading to Garza on a boat. You
Speaker 3: think the people in that region have suffered enough, but no,
Speaker 3: now they have the little Swedish doom Goblin en route
Speaker 3: to the wall zone to save the day.
Speaker 5: Will attempt to again sail towards the Gaza and to
Speaker 5: try to break the siege and open up a humanitarian
Speaker 5: code or by delivering aid. Keep trying everything we can,
Speaker 5: even if the odds are against us, to try to
Speaker 5: protest and do everything we can to stand against Israel's
Speaker 5: atrocities and war crimes.
Speaker 3: And Greta Thunberg got a little bit, or at least
Speaker 3: she tried to when describing the goals of the Freedom flotilla.
Speaker 3: Really need to keep these theater kids out of geopolitics.
Speaker 5: We are doing this because no matter what odds we
Speaker 5: are against, we have to keep trying, because the moment
Speaker 5: we stop trying is when.
Speaker 14: We lose our humanity.
Speaker 10: And no matter how dangerous this mission is, it is
Speaker 10: now and near as dangerous as the silence of the
Speaker 10: entire world.
Speaker 3: Now, just imagine the arrogance, the delusion, the spectacular stupidity
Speaker 3: of believing that the Israelis or even her mask give
Speaker 3: a flying fruit bat about what Greta and her bunch
Speaker 3: of weird own nosering wearing pronoun announcing lefty maates think.
Speaker 2: We're on the Maduin.
Speaker 3: We have been trying to sail to Luzza with aid,
Speaker 3: with solidarity and love for so long, and we are one.
Speaker 2: Huge step closer to getting to Dazza now.
Speaker 3: And it was all fun and games and singers longs.
Speaker 2: For a while.
Speaker 3: The silence. But as Greta and her mates near the border,
Speaker 3: they spotted drones and then came the calls for help.
Speaker 2: Hello, Ron.
Speaker 1: We are reporting you from them.
Speaker 9: I've believe we are right now at eighty kilometers from
Speaker 9: Greek lens and sixty.
Speaker 1: Eight kilometers from Greek territorial orders.
Speaker 14: What happened is that we just spotted a drone and
Speaker 14: we confirmed it is a drone.
Speaker 1: But we just lost a visual with it.
Speaker 2: We could have either turned back or turned off the lights.
Speaker 2: We need, We need your help.
Speaker 12: That's it.
Speaker 2: Please send This is less.
Speaker 3: Sense now, this is an exciting development. Apparently you can
Speaker 3: just serve yourself chicken nowadays. If the service take too long,
Speaker 3: watch as this woman with a baby on her hip
Speaker 3: loses it at eight Church's chicken outlet.
Speaker 10: Oh my girl, my girl, County Bay, my girl fixing up.
Speaker 2: Damn all right, wait, no, you know where you know?
Speaker 3: I don't mind that I'm always getting these breast and
Speaker 3: wing pieces when I want to get leg and thighs.
Speaker 2: Maybe if I'm helping myself.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Democrats now, they're not doing too well.
Speaker 3: Trump is flying in the polls, particularly when it comes
Speaker 3: to economic performance.
Speaker 11: Plus eight point advantage for the Republican Party.
Speaker 4: How is that possible?
Speaker 12: Democrats?
Speaker 11: How is that possible? After all the recession? Because after
Speaker 11: the stock market's been doing all of this, after all
Speaker 11: the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold
Speaker 11: an eight point lead on the economy.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? This is a CNN This is
Speaker 2: new CNN, Poland I was that when we look for trends,
Speaker 2: how is that trending with other data that you're pulling in?
Speaker 11: Yeah, if it was just this one CNN, Paul, that
Speaker 11: would be one thing. But take a look at Reuter's ipsos.
Speaker 11: What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan?
Speaker 1: Well, it may have.
Speaker 11: Twenty twenty four, just before Donald Trump was reelected president,
Speaker 11: Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look at where we
Speaker 11: are now and may have twenty twenty five, the advantage
Speaker 11: actually went up by three points.
Speaker 3: The Democrats and their propaganda, I'm including the painfully unfunny
Speaker 3: comics on late night TV shows our in total denial.
Speaker 3: Listen to this deranged discussion between Bernie Sanders and Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 2: These people exist in a sad.
Speaker 3: Parallel universe of their own. Get ready for a Hitler
Speaker 3: analogy here.
Speaker 1: But also we cannot wait.
Speaker 11: We have to have mass protests, mobilization and disruption. Is
Speaker 11: that what it's going to take because again there's five
Speaker 11: hundred and twenty more days.
Speaker 7: The truth of the matter is, I don't care if
Speaker 7: you are a conservative, Republican or a progressive as I am.
Speaker 4: You do not believe.
Speaker 7: I mean, you just stop and think about it. Think
Speaker 7: about the men and women who fought and died against Hitler,
Speaker 7: fort and died against fascism, fort and died to defend
Speaker 7: American democracy. And I think the vast majority of the
Speaker 7: American people, regardless of the ideology, are not and cannot
Speaker 7: and must not sit back and allow us to move
Speaker 7: into an authoritarian type society where people get picked up
Speaker 7: off the streets and put in detention centers. Really in
Speaker 7: the United States of America, just.
Speaker 2: Absolute derangement there from Bernie.
Speaker 3: The American people overwhelmingly support deportation of illegal immigrants or
Speaker 3: illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2: Bernie still to come.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump gives the Iranian regime an ultimatum.
Speaker 2: Army Horowitz has the details. Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Now we've already checked in on crazy Bernie Sanders. Let's
Speaker 3: see how Eric Soorwell is traveling. This is the man
Speaker 3: best known for dating a Chinese spy. He just released
Speaker 3: this bizarre video see if you can understand what the
Speaker 3: Democrats what Eric is trying to achieve.
Speaker 14: Here, thy congressman, trying to help you put the is
Speaker 14: up with Trump always chickening out on tariffs.
Speaker 1: Anything else?
Speaker 14: That's it.
Speaker 2: Joining me now?
Speaker 3: Is journalists and filmmaker Army Horowitz.
Speaker 2: Army explain that video to me?
Speaker 3: Are they suggesting Donald Trump needs.
Speaker 2: To go high?
Speaker 3: How do we tariffs while simultaneously being anti tariff? And
Speaker 3: what's with the tacos? I'm genuinely lost with that video?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean the video is here lost. The
Speaker 4: video is absolutely awful, right, I mean, it was amateur hour,
Speaker 4: it was stupid. But no tacos? Is is Trump always
Speaker 4: chickens out? That's the kind of new the new new.
Speaker 2: Saying the lais oh jays.
Speaker 4: That's what it was. Really, Yeah, that's where it is.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what that what that was. Just to be clear, Okay,
Speaker 4: we don't right, So I am a soft shell taco
Speaker 4: guy all the way. Okay, live or die. But if
Speaker 4: it's it's unhinged to eat hardshell tacos, but if you are,
Speaker 4: I think that, Look, he knows more about Chinese than Mexicans.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give him that, but I get a
Speaker 4: hard held taco from Taco Bell is Therida's look of right,
Speaker 4: that's what you got to eat. I don't know what
Speaker 4: he's doing there. And first of all, I'm from La,
Speaker 4: so in La, I'm a del taco guy, okay, all
Speaker 4: the way, not tackle bell, that's the cheap stuff. So
Speaker 4: I don't know what he was doing there. I know
Speaker 4: what he was playing at. And also, yes, of course
Speaker 4: the Democrats are in free fall. They know what to
Speaker 4: do anti tariff pro TEARFF. They have no idea what's
Speaker 4: going on. But I'll tell you this, I mean Trump
Speaker 4: just you know, I've been critical of Trump's tariffs, right,
Speaker 4: or at least some of them on the air with you, right,
Speaker 4: But the guy just doubled down on tariffs and it
Speaker 4: came to doubling the tariffs on steel. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what they're talking about. Yeah, they are unhinged. They
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on, and this video is a
Speaker 4: perfect example of that.
Speaker 3: It's almost like they're trying to just get a reaction
Speaker 3: from Donald Trump by saying he's wake or he's chickening out,
Speaker 3: and really, that is such an idiotic way to be
Speaker 3: tackling the currents that you just trying to provoke Trump
Speaker 3: into a response as if that's a win. Now, it's
Speaker 3: Pride month, it's June, and under the Biden administration they
Speaker 3: used to party long and hard marking the occasion. They
Speaker 3: even let up the White House for Pride Month. That
Speaker 3: those days are well and truly over, Army, The White
Speaker 3: House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt was asked how they would
Speaker 3: mark Pride months.
Speaker 12: Does the President have any plans on making a proclamator?
Speaker 12: Is it just going to be due this year?
Speaker 15: There are no plans for a proclamation for the month
Speaker 15: of June, but I can tell you this president is
Speaker 15: very proud to be a president for all Americans, regardless
Speaker 15: of Greece, religion, or creed.
Speaker 2: The party is over.
Speaker 3: Has there been much of a reaction to that, army,
Speaker 3: much of a backlash?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, because that was the right answer, right. The
Speaker 4: right answer is, Look, we're not looking at single out
Speaker 4: one person, one religion, one sexual orientation. We're all Americans.
Speaker 4: But the Balkanization of this country by the left has
Speaker 4: has has proven fracturing for our society. The Democrats, this
Speaker 4: is their playbook, right that we want to separate, want
Speaker 4: to isolate different people. We want to promote victimhood.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 4: This is kind of what they've been doing for years,
Speaker 4: and we're we the country are worse off for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look a couple quick stories. You know, you know, I
Speaker 4: have a coffee shop Love Coffee across street for me
Speaker 4: and during Pride Month, they've got the Pride flag up. Look,
Speaker 4: I got no problem with that. Look at a private company,
Speaker 4: private business, you could do what you want. I got
Speaker 4: no issue. But you know what a flag they don't
Speaker 4: put up on July fourth. They don't put up the
Speaker 4: American flag. That's right, That's what I'm like, there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Look, you want to you want to celebrate all of it,
Speaker 4: that's good, But you're making a business in the United States.
Speaker 4: You're making a profit because of America. Yeah, put up
Speaker 4: the American flag on July fourth. Another quick story. A
Speaker 4: friend of mine got married and she's going to be
Speaker 4: baptized and they're on the left right, So they're going
Speaker 4: this church and after she's baptized, she said, yeah, that
Speaker 4: the priest is going to bring out the Pride flag
Speaker 4: and bless the Pride flag. I mean, what in a
Speaker 4: church in a religious ceremony. I don't get that at all. Look,
Speaker 4: but what it does is this is the new This
Speaker 4: is the religion of the left right. This is literally
Speaker 4: and figuratively, and the New York Times is their scripture,
Speaker 4: and the Pride flag is their crucifix. This is where we're.
Speaker 2: At, yep.
Speaker 3: But the Trump administration ain't having any of that now.
Speaker 3: Earlier in the program, Army I featured Risha Thunberg and
Speaker 3: her expedition to Gaza. What do you make of the
Speaker 3: Swedish activists latest bit of well activism?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a gross narcissistic fool. Was that clear enough
Speaker 4: for you? I mean, should I should? He was at
Speaker 4: an off I hedge my bets there. No, she had awful,
Speaker 4: terrible you know. Yeah, I want to do a how
Speaker 4: dare you to an Israeli naval corvette with a thirty
Speaker 4: two log cells of Barack air to surface missiles. I
Speaker 4: want to pull that with the IDF. Okay, see how
Speaker 4: far that gets? I want to I want to be
Speaker 4: there for that. Look she they're saying they're starving Gaza, right,
Speaker 4: feed Gaza. Yeah, I don't think you're the one feeding Gaza.
Speaker 4: I think you may have forgotten that Israel has said
Speaker 4: one point six million tons one point six tons of
Speaker 4: food to h to the Goslins to feed them. Look,
Speaker 4: there's been a connection between radical environmentalism and and the
Speaker 4: Palestinians for years. I mean, if you go to a
Speaker 4: environmental rally, you will always see a free Palestine rally
Speaker 4: the same time, I should say it all to you
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the usual suspect there is this unholy alliance
Speaker 3: between the hard left with Islamists. It's all they share
Speaker 3: a common enemy, which is the West, and conservatives staying
Speaker 3: in that region don't want to ask you about.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been quite clear.
Speaker 3: Now with the Iranian regime that they must fully dismantle
Speaker 3: their nuclear Richmond program as part of any deal they
Speaker 3: want to have to ease the sanctions that are crushing
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 2: Tehran's not going to be very happy to hear this.
Speaker 3: Trump administration has given some mixed messages to the Mullers,
Speaker 3: but the key goal is to stop them from developing
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I think mixed messages is the proof weare
Speaker 4: of saying it. Where it's not clear what's going on
Speaker 4: with the Trump administration and Iran right, we're here reporting,
Speaker 4: We're here Trump saying certain things. I think that the
Speaker 4: reporting was, in fact, he was going to allow in Richmond.
Speaker 4: Actually the reporting was that it was gonna be a
Speaker 4: similar deal to the first Iran deal, which obviously would
Speaker 4: be a problem for Israel in the United States. And then
Speaker 4: if Trump then trying to clarify and saying no, I'm saying,
Speaker 4: there's no Richmond. We don't know where it is. This
Speaker 4: could be Trump playing good cop, bad cop, and him
Speaker 4: he's playing both the roles, which is a traditional way
Speaker 4: of playing good cop, bad cop. Right. I think he's
Speaker 4: also scared that he that he that Israel will in
Speaker 4: fact launch a unilateral attack on Iran.
Speaker 13: Right.
Speaker 4: I think that Israel is scared. They're looking at what
Speaker 4: has gone on with the who Thi's and gone on
Speaker 4: with Syria and potentially with Iran, and they're like, what's
Speaker 4: going on here, And there's been a lot of noise
Speaker 4: of them attacking Iran on their own. I don't think
Speaker 4: Trump was looking for that, and I think he's trying
Speaker 4: to preempt that by making this statement. Look, there's also
Speaker 4: been some other issues that most a lot of people
Speaker 4: aren't talking about. But I think are significant when it
Speaker 4: comes to the Trump administration visa the Iran There's been
Speaker 4: a purge in the Trump administration on the NSC when
Speaker 4: it comes to Iran hawks, right, a number of people
Speaker 4: in the Iran administration who's taking a very hard line
Speaker 4: against Iran had been summarily fired or moved in different
Speaker 4: positions within the administration. And that's an issue. And the
Speaker 4: reporting going on is that he's looking for Iran. Does
Speaker 4: that align more with the Vice president his isolation's wing
Speaker 4: of the party than the more traditional Republican hockey special
Speaker 4: in Israel. That's disturbing. Again, these are all things that
Speaker 4: Trump is good as his grand master plan, right, and
Speaker 4: we don't know if he's doing in fact, this is
Speaker 4: all negotiation, aployer or actually what he's doing, we're not
Speaker 4: gonna know until it's done. So we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yep, well we'll see what's happening. Ami Horowitz, thank you
Speaker 3: so much for your insights. Appreciated, and that's it from me.
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