1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: On scoring lis Ostrodia. This is the Wider Paney Show. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA Panekey Show. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, we'll have a packed program for you. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 3: Senator Alex Antique will be here to discuss the coalitions 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: at zero conundrum. Douglas Murray will join you to discuss 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: Britain's blasphemy laws and he also has a few words 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: of advice for preachy rock star Bono. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: The Victorian government's reckless. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Economic agenda is again under the spotlight ten and McQueen 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: will weigh in on that, and later in the hour 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: Army Horowitz. We'll have the latest from the US. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: And Left is Losing. 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: It features Greta Thumberg and friends as they sail to 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: Gaza and they've already run into trouble. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: We need your helps this and. 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 5: This is lessens Red. 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: But first joining me now is Liberal Senator Alex Antique. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Alex, you were the driving force. 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: Behind I'm the South Australian Liberal Party's recent decision to 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: abandon net zero by twenty fifty, and you called on 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: the Federal Libs to also walk away from net zero. 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: But just hours later, the South Australian Liberal leader pulled 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: cold water on the move, telling reporters that none of 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: these policy discussions bind any of the parliamentary wings of 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: the party. 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Tell my audience what's going on. 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: Are the South Australian Libs walking away from net zero 28 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: or are you sort of still half pregnant? 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 6: Well, look, Rita, what we're talking about actually was a 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 6: was a motion that went through our State Council of 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 6: the Liberal Party meets quarterly and for pre selections. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: But this is just a routine meeting. 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 6: There are a number of party members and others who 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 6: were involved in putting forward a policy discussion about whether 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 6: or not the federal Parliamentary Party should be continuing to 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 6: press on with net zero supporting net zero, and the 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 6: overwhelming response was no, it shouldn't be, which was very 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 6: very encouraging, and that motion was passed and so the 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 6: Parliamentary Party, I guess, have received that message from the 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: South Australian division that the members here don't want that 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: support to continue, and they don't want it for good reason. 42 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 6: I mean for a whole range of reasons, but for 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 6: all the reasons we've been talking about for a very 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 6: long period of time. Net zero in itself is really 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 6: nothing more than a than a catch cry from a 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 6: time gone by. Really, I've been saying it's a sort 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 6: of a cash cry from a globalist bureaucrats who are 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 6: really doing nothing more than making China rich at our expense. 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 6: And so I think it's a very good position. I 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 6: hope it's adopted by the Federal Party. The State Party, 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 6: of course, weren't actually mentioned in the motion. They have 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 6: their own position and that's fair enough too. But ultimately 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 6: this comes back to listening to our members, which is 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 6: what we are here to do and we should. 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Continue to do so. 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 7: Well. 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: So far we haven't had really any clarity from the 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: new Liberal leader Sas and Leon net zero under review 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: with a bunch of other policies. 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: But how much longer is that going going to take? 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Alex, Surely the party knows where it stands on this 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: crucial issue. You've back net zero and lost two elections badly. 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: I don't understand what the confusion is here. Surely, if 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: you want to provide the Australian public with a clear 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: choice on this crucial policy area, you have to back away. 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 6: Well, let me start off by telling you what my 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 6: own view on the issue of the so called climate 68 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 6: wars is and that is that we should be providing 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 6: the cheapest possible power we can possibly provide, which of 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: course comes back to colon gas, and we should be 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 6: doing that. Senator Matt Canavan and I were I think 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 6: some of the only, if not the only, members of 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 6: the Coalition who opposed the flip to net zero during 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: the Morrison era in two thousand and twenty two or 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 6: twenty one, whenever it was at the end of that term. 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 6: And actually, if you look back on the history of it, 77 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 6: we went to the two thousand nineteen election with the 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 6: very strong message that we're going to save the weekend 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 6: and with no net zero policy, and had, of course 80 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 6: for a range of reasons, but that being one of them, 81 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 6: a very very strong return from the electorate compared to 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 6: the following two elections which have been no good, the last. 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: One being the worst when we've adopted net zero. 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 6: Now, obviously there are multitude of factors here, but putting 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 6: Australia first has got to mean dumping net zero, and 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 6: I hope we do come to that position, and I 87 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 6: hope we come to it quickly. 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: As a party. 89 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely twenty nineteen, you won the unwinnable election and energy policy. 90 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: Remember they called it a referendum on climate change policies 91 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: and the coalition one. Now the UK government has announced 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: over neither. They're going to be overhauling their defense budget. 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: They'll be increasing the budget at two point five percent 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: of GDP by twenty twenty seven. The US is pushing 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: Australia to lift our defense spending, but the Prime Minister is. 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: So far refusing. 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: Apparently the UK is a very different place to Australia. 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 8: The UK's in a different place from Australia. We determine 99 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 8: our defense policy. Here where a sovereign nation that need 100 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 8: to have pride in our sovereignty and in our capacity 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 8: to make decisions in our national interest. 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: Alex the PM is talking tough there. He wasn't so 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: tough when Chinese warships were doing live fire exercises and 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: we're detected just one hundred and fifty nautical miles from Sydney. 105 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: But so far he is refusing to entertain increased spending 106 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: on defense. 107 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 108 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's one for the Prime Minister. I 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 6: mean this is the Prime Minister, of course, who suggested 110 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 6: that the President of the United States scared the excrement 111 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 6: out of him a while back. So maybe that's hard 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: to do it. I don't know, but I would have 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: thought that protecting Australia's borders was the number one priority 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 6: of a prime minister in a government, and defense spending 115 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 6: would be one of them. And this is very consistent 116 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 6: with what the Trump administration has been doing all over 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 6: the world. 118 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: It's no surprise. It shouldn't be a surprise to this government. 119 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 6: They've seen them the pitch for higher spending throughout Europe 120 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 6: for a long time, in fact, going back to the 121 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 6: first Trump Trump administration, and why should Australia be any different. 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, this government can find money for 123 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: all sorts of things, including hundreds and hundreds of millions 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: of dollars for the Voice referendum, to build larger bureaucracies, 125 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 6: to Bricky and their mates in Canberra, and for a 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 6: whole range of you so called intermittent power. They don't 127 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 6: call them that, We're going to call them that intermittent power, 128 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 6: not renewable power subsidies all over the country. But they 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 6: can't find money to defend our borders. I mean, where 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 6: are the priorities of this government? We need a government 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 6: that's Australia first, and spending on defense is high on 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: the priority list. 133 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: They would have thought. 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 3: Now the Prime Minister has left proposed to peranuation tax 135 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: hikes open to negotiation in an effort to possibly sideline 136 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: the Greens in the Senate and strike a deal with 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: the Coalition instead. But Alex, surely any coalition backing of 138 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: this tax hike has to exclude the plan to tax 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: unrealized capital gains. 140 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: That has to go. 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 6: Well, look, reader, I mean, at the end of the day, 142 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 6: it's very simple. We are the party of low taxes 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 6: and of small government and we need to be very 144 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 6: resolute on that. I mean, you know, it is true 145 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 6: to say that this Senate in particular is going to 146 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 6: provide an interesting series of decisions for leadership team. I 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 6: mean there are now I think they need the Coalition 148 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 6: or the Greens to pass laws on one side of 149 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 6: the fence. You'd have an argument that allowing the Greens 150 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 6: to be negotiated with over the top of us will 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 6: mean that we get worse law turned into even worse law. 152 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 6: But my position on this, for what it's worth, my 153 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 6: personal position is that the Liberal Party should always be 154 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: true to its core beliefs, the we believe statement, and 155 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 6: we should always stand for lower taxes, and that doesn't 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: always mean doing a deal, even if it means a 157 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 6: worse result in some instances. I think in some cases 158 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 6: we need to just simply allow Labor and the Greens 159 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 6: to show what they're made of here, and we need 160 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 6: to be resolute and sell that message to the Australian 161 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 6: people that will always be lower taxed under a Liberal 162 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: coalition government. 163 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: Now, a lot has been said about the Liberal Party 164 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: and young voters, so. 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Let's just hear now from some young Liberals. 166 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 9: There's people on the conservative side of politics that say 167 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 9: the Coalition needs to go further to the right. That's 168 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 9: why they're losing the election. If the Coalition needed to 169 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 9: go further to the right, one nation would be in government. 170 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 9: But they're not what we had on election day with 171 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 9: a message from the Australian people. 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 8: And it's up to us now to listen and to learn, 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 8: and I'm confident that the party will do that. 174 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,359 Speaker 3: I think there is a little bit of a misconception 175 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: that for the Liberals are these. 176 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: Big bad guys, or that they have some kind of 177 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: very extreme viewer who old. I think that's inherently incorrect. 178 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 6: I think the more important thing to do is to 179 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 6: sort of go, Okay, what does it mean to. 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 10: Be a conservative in twenty twenty five? 181 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: So what does it mean to be sort of socially progressive. 182 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: But economically a bit more liberal? How does that frame now? Alex? 183 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to be unkind, but if that's the 184 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: future of the Liberals, maybe you should just wind up 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: the party now and find some new projects. 186 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 6: Well, look, I mean, I think reader, I mean, actually 187 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 6: I know all three in some degree, and they're all 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: very good young people, I have to say, But we 189 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 6: are dealing with the ABC, and the ABC does find 190 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 6: a way to prosecute its own view of the world 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 6: in many instances in. 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: A way that which you would expect they would. 193 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 6: And I think in many instances, you know, we could 194 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 6: have found probably, you know, if you give it, if 195 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 6: the ABC had contacted me and given me a heads up, 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: I could have probably found seventy young people that might 197 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 6: have taken a different view. But that's the way it is. 198 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 6: It is, as they say, a broad Church, and look, 199 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 6: we're not always going to agree. What I would say, though, 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: is that this narrative that somehow the Liberal Party, particularly 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 6: here in South Australia, has gone hard right or far 202 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 6: right or whatever, and that only applies if you're coming 203 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 6: from the hard left, as far as I was always, 204 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: I'm only far right to the far left. And what 205 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 6: we're talking about is getting the party back to a 206 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 6: position where it's talking about the issues that are important 207 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 6: to middle Australia. And I challenge anyone to tell us 208 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 6: anything about the sort of policies that I would you know, 209 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 6: push that are in that category. I think they're all 210 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: very sensible and I think a lot of mainstream Australians 211 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 6: would agree. So I think it says more about the 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 6: ABC than it does any of our young liberals. 213 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: Frankly, absolutely. 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: Now before you go earlier today, the latest GDP figures 215 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: were released and it's not great for the economy. Australia's 216 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: GDP increased by just zero point two percent in the 217 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: March quarter. That's lower than the zero point six percent 218 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 3: we saw in December and lower than the expectations that 219 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: economists had Alex. The key figure here is the per 220 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: capita figure. GDP per capita has gone back zero point 221 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: four percent, and that's really what impacts people. 222 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and of course we've seen similar stats over 223 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: the last quarter or so about the decline in disposable income. 224 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: We're now i think leading the Western world leading I 225 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 6: use that term very loosely. I think eight percent. We've 226 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 6: gone backwards over the last term. And I mean, look, 227 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 6: this is just unfortunately we're we're up to I mean, 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 6: we are, as we have said many times under this 229 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 6: government and under this ethos, a nation in decline, sadly. 230 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 6: And look, our job is to provide a strong alternative, 231 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: both economically. 232 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: And I would say culturally. 233 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 6: And you know, we're just unfortunately it's going to be 234 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: a rough ride the next three years for Australian so 235 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 6: we just have to do everything we can to push 236 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 6: back on that. 237 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: Well, this is what's so remarkable. Yes, it was a 238 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: very lackluster election campaign from the Libs, but Australia has 239 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: just seen the biggest drop in living standards in the 240 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: developed world and the party that oversaw that has been 241 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: returned in our landslide. What does that say about the 242 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: election campaign that the Libs ran. 243 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 6: Well, look, i mean we've been a lot said about it. 244 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 6: I'veset a lot about it as well. I think it 245 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 6: needs to be properly reviewed, of course, but I would 246 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: say from the outset that we need to be very 247 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 6: clear about what we stand for, and I don't think 248 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 6: that the campaign. 249 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: Did that, and did it on a range of reasons. Look, 250 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: this is what we're. 251 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 6: Talking about when we're saying getting the party back to 252 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 6: what middle Australia is talking about. 253 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: We can't be frightened of issues which. 254 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 6: The left push, which are otherwise seen as being radioactive. 255 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 6: Most mainstream Australians are talking about them, be they economic, 256 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 6: be they cultural, and we have to be out and 257 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 6: loud and proud about it. And it's as simple as that. 258 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 6: And that's my hope for the next election cycles that 259 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 6: we start putting some clear alternatives and non labor light alternatives. 260 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: Yes, non labor light being the keywords. They're sent to Alexandchik. 261 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time tonight. 262 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Thanks reader. 263 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now is one of the finest thinkers of 264 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: his generation, best selling author Douglas Murray Douglas, We've got 265 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: plenty to discuss today. Let's start with Bono, the preachy 266 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: YouTube front man with a history of questionable tax arrangements. 267 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: He's had some thoughts about usaid. 268 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: It's not proven. 269 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 11: But there's surveillance enough suggests three hundred thousand people have 270 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 11: already died from just this. 271 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: Cut off, this hard cut of USAID. 272 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: Douglas, we've got Bill Gates also making all sorts of 273 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: bold claims. 274 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: He's saying millions of debts. 275 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: Will this sort of advocacy for USAID have any effect? 276 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: No, it won't. 277 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 12: I think, as far as we know, the judgment of 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 12: Elon Ask, the Doge team, and indeed President Trump was 279 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 12: that they looked under the bonnet of what was there 280 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 12: at USAID, looked to see if there was anything worth salvageable, 281 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 12: and decided that the whole thing was so rotten and 282 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 12: there was so much unaccountability that it just. 283 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: Wasn't worth saving. It was worth scrapping. 284 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 12: I'm always loath to hear from Bono pretty much about 285 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 12: any subject other than singing with You two, which he's 286 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 12: great at. But whenever something like him talks like this, 287 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 12: they always seem to forget. This isn't their money to 288 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 12: give away. To his credit, Bill Gates says that he's 289 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 12: going to give away his money and give it away 290 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 12: to Africa, and we'll see if he does that. 291 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: But when Bono speaks like this. 292 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: He seems to forget. 293 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: This isn't just. 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 12: The sort of free money from something. This is money 295 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 12: that American taxpayers work for and hand over to the 296 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 12: federal government to be well used. And the is that 297 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 12: USAID's money was not well used. It was an incredibly 298 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 12: political entity, whether as I say, very little accountability. It 299 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 12: just it just hosed money out, particularly toward the end 300 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 12: of Biden's time in office, if you can say he 301 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 12: was actually in office. It just holds money out because 302 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 12: they want to be able to demonstrate that they're giving 303 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 12: out money. Well, I'd rather see that they're actually doing 304 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 12: some good with that money. But yes, it's very easy 305 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 12: for you, write bono to be very generous with other 306 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 12: people's money. 307 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I think people's eyes have been open to this 308 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: sort of activism. USIID was funding around the world, as 309 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: so many of these movements will be wondering where they're 310 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: getting the money from. Where's this organic, sort of grassroots movement. 311 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: It never was that it was taxpayers unwishingly funding this madness. 312 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: Now, Douglas, it's happened again. 313 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: Kirstarma is again tweeting like his Donald Trump and angry 314 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump. He posted, you have every right to be 315 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: angry about small boat crossings. I'm angry too, and he's 316 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: promised all sorts of action there. But that was the 317 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: number of people claiming asylum in the UK in the 318 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: past year in twenty twenty four was the highest since 319 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: records began. 320 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: They're not really doing much to solve. 321 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 12: This issue, no, I mean, Kirs Starmer says, you know 322 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 12: in a tweet, I'm angry in order to try to 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 12: placate the actual real anger of the British public, who 324 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 12: just whether it's conservative or labor, the migration just keeps 325 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 12: going up, up and up endlessly, so that just illegal 326 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 12: boat crossings across the channel in a single day again 327 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 12: the other day were about eleven hundred people, well the 328 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 12: one thousand people arriving illegally in a day. And what's 329 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 12: the point of having laws, what's the point of even 330 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 12: pretending you have borders, let alone pretending that you're angry 331 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 12: when they are they're being infringed, when they're being infringed 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 12: every single day, when the law is being made to 333 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 12: look like an ass every single day. And if Arma 334 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 12: actually wants to demonstrate that he feels angry about this, 335 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 12: he shouldn't just send out a tweet he should start 336 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 12: the forced deportation of the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, 337 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 12: of people who have broken into the UK illegally. 338 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: Is he going to do that? 339 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 12: We'll see. 340 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: Probably unlikely. 341 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: Staying in the UK, one has to ask does the 342 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: country now have quasi blasphemy laws or perhaps I should 343 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: just call them blasphemy laws. We have a man who 344 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: burnt a copy of the Koran, his own copy and 345 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: shouted in Turkish that Islam is religion of terrorism. Well, 346 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: Douglas has been convicted of a religiously aggravated public order 347 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: offense and find. 348 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 12: You're completely right, reader, this is simply a blasphemy law. 349 00:17:54,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 12: You know, if somebody set light to a Bible, everybody 350 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 12: will be running out saying this man has an absolute 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 12: right to do so. The churches will be falling over 352 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 12: themselves to demonstrate it. It will probably win the Turner 353 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 12: Prize or some other art prize for being so daring. 354 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 12: But no, the holy book of modern Britain, as so 355 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 12: many other Western democracies now, is the Qoran. 356 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: It's the holy. 357 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 12: Book in that even the people who've never opened it 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 12: and don't know what's in it know that that is 359 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 12: the thing that has to be protected. So whether you're 360 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 12: an autistic school child in the North of England who 361 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 12: accidentally drops the Koran on the floor, that child's mother 362 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 12: will have to sit in front of effectively a Sharia 363 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 12: council and beg for the life of her child. In 364 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 12: Britain in the twenty first century, if you're a school 365 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 12: teacher in Batley and some deranged, semi educated parent alleges 366 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 12: that a teacher has said something blasphemous about Islam, then 367 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 12: that teacher goes into and is still in hiding to 368 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 12: this day. And if you burn a Koran, it turns 369 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 12: out that's the holy book. That's the thing you mustn't touch. 370 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 12: It's not just a blasphemy law. It's a blasphemy law 371 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 12: that the state is allowing to be pushed through by 372 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 12: threat of force. Because nobody is doing an argument here. 373 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 12: You know, there's no good argument for why the Quran 374 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 12: has to be treated as the holiest of holy books. No, 375 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 12: it's only that intimidation, violence and thuggery seems to work. 376 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 12: And I thought that was the sort of thing that 377 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 12: the law was there to protect us against. 378 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 379 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: Now let's go to the US and you've written in 380 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: the Spectator about the derangement of Harvard. The Ivyla College 381 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: is currently at war with the Trump administration. We had 382 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: those a thirty more than thirty Harvard University student organization 383 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: signing a letter Douglas literally whilst October seven, Victims was 384 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: still being uncovered blaming the Israeli regime entirely for the 385 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 3: unfolding violence. Tell me what's happening at Harvard. How did 386 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: this prestigious Ivyley College become such a hot bit of 387 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: hatred and hostility. 388 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 12: Well, you know, it's well documented. As you said, Rita, 389 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 12: the students of places like Harvard, from the seventh of 390 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 12: October twenty twenty three onwards were making it clear. 391 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: Which side they were on. 392 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 12: They were saying in a joint letter written on the 393 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 12: seventh of October that the Israeli government, not Hamas the 394 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 12: Israeli government was responsible for all violence. And since then 395 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 12: students at Harvard and other elite universities have been allowed 396 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 12: to rampage across university, shut down student accommodations and places 397 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 12: of study, intimidate and beat up employees, and basically act 398 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 12: as low level copycats of the thugs of Hamas, and 399 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 12: they seem to admire so much, but the real thing 400 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 12: is Rita. We should all congratulate these students at Harvard 401 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 12: and Princeton and Columbia and elsewhere. Congratulations to them. They've 402 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 12: spent the last eighteen or so months calling for the 403 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 12: inter farda, the uprising, a violent terrorist uprising, to be globalized. 404 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 12: And well done, guys, You've got your way, because not 405 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 12: only do you have two people shot in the streets 406 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 12: of Washington, d c. On suspicion of being Jewish, you 407 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 12: now have in Colorado the Islamists, supporters of Hamaz trying 408 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 12: to burn to death Jewish people who are trying to 409 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 12: call for the peaceful release of the hostages still being 410 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 12: held by Hamas in Gaza. So well done, students at Harvard, 411 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 12: Well done, all the students at Princeton and Yale and 412 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 12: the rest of them. You're getting your globalized into Farda. 413 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 12: I hope you love it. Well. 414 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: We have that scene, that shocking rise in anti Semitic 415 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: violence in the US, the two incidents you mentioned, and 416 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: just a short time before that, a matter of weeks 417 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 3: we had a governor's house burned down. It's just such 418 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: an escalation. And yet, Douglas, if it was a right 419 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: wing movement behind these acts one after another, I would 420 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: imagine the reaction would be a little bit more serious 421 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: than what we're getting here. Because these are targeted attacks. 422 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: There are an acts of domestic terrorism, and I wonder 423 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: whether the authorities are looking at them as seriously as 424 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: they should. 425 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 12: Well, we've got equivalents we can pull out. I mean, 426 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 12: how many years was it now? Six years ago or 427 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 12: so since Jussi Smollett, remember him, a low grade act 428 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 12: in America, claimed that in the of the night in 429 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 12: Chicago he had been assaulted by two Maga Trump supporters 430 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 12: and racially abuse and had a noose put around his 431 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 12: neck and poison thrown at him and all sorts of 432 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 12: other things. And he just made alligation, which of course 433 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 12: turned out to be a total croc. He'd hired two 434 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 12: big black Nigerian guys to be the local white supremacist 435 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 12: MAGA people. But anyway, remember when Jesse Smollett pulled that 436 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 12: fake hoax hate crime. Within hours, every leading Democrat, Kamala Harris, 437 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 12: all these Hollywood people, all the show hosts all said 438 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 12: we have to have a reckoning as a country that 439 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 12: this could happen here, that low grade actors could be 440 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 12: assaulted by people they've hired from Nigeria to fake hate crime. Oh, 441 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 12: we've got to have a national rethink of everything, guys. 442 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 12: But when real things happening in real time and the 443 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 12: object of the hate is Jews, no, because Jews aren't 444 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 12: one of the cool minorities in the left wing intersectional world. 445 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 12: And you know what's not cool with then either is reality. 446 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 12: They're fine fine talking up the fakes and the hoaxes 447 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 12: and the ghules and the banshees they imagine are lingering everywhere, 448 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 12: but when reality is right in front of them, they'll 449 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 12: continue to do everything they can to avoid it. 450 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: And we've seen the media use some very imaginative words 451 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: instead of saying Jews or pro israel I think one 452 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: of them was pro Gaza hostage release activists. There was 453 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: some bizarre wording that NBC used before you go just 454 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: on Harvard, the university's tolerance anti Semitism and anti Israeli 455 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: sentiment seems boundless. In recent days, we heard another speech 456 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: at a Harvard graduation ceremony, this time by Zarah E. 457 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: Mom again all about Palestine. 458 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 10: There are no save zones left in US after six 459 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 10: hundred days and seventy seven years of genocide. I sent 460 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 10: her Palestine today not just because of its scale of atrocity, 461 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 10: but because of our complicity in it. Together, we must 462 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 10: refuse to be ruled by the tyrants of our time, 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 10: because our liberations are intertwined. 464 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: There you go, Douglas, seventy seven years of genocide. These 465 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: are the best and brights. These are Harvard graduates. 466 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 12: Yeah, she obviously doesn't have a dog in that fight, 467 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 12: does she? As she's covered in her fear. 468 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: And so on. 469 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 12: As I just mentioned in the Spectator last week, one 470 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 12: of the many interesting things is the toxic mix we 471 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 12: see here of real bigotry and real hatred sectarianism as 472 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 12: displayed by that young woman there and all the time, 473 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 12: with the fatal additional mixtures to the cocktail of fanatical 474 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 12: ignorance and narcissism. And the narcissism is, who do you 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 12: think you are? You're a student at Harvard, You're one 476 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 12: of the luckiest kids in one of the luckiest generations 477 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 12: of all time, and you seem to be under the 478 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 12: impression that the war in the Middle East that Hamas 479 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 12: started is somehow being directed from Harvard University. And I've 480 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 12: got news for those students. Neither Hamas nor the Israeli 481 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 12: government take any direction from Harvard University or any other 482 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 12: privileged Ivy League campus. There's a world beyond the end 483 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 12: of your own nos. And these students haven't been taught that. 484 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 12: They haven't been taught anything. They certainly haven't been taught 485 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 12: any humility, and so no, they think that the world 486 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 12: is going to be run on their terms. Well, the 487 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 12: sooner they grow up and learn otherwise, the better. But 488 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 12: in the meantime, yes, they'll just continue this toxic cocktail 489 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 12: of advocacy, endless prejudice against people they feel able to 490 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 12: be prejudiced against, and wild wild narcissism. 491 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Douglas Murray beautifully said, thank you so much for your 492 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: time tonight. 493 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: Great pleasure. 494 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 3: As always, stilt karma Lefty is losing it past. The 495 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: Victorian government's reckless economic agenda is back in the spotlight. 496 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: Tina McQueen is up next. Welcome back. 497 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Tina McQueen. 498 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: Tina, let's start in Victoria. 499 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: We know the state is broke. We've got record debt, 500 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: heist in the country and yet Victorian true still hasn't 501 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: modeled the potential impact of a credit rating downgrade for 502 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 3: the state, despite strong warnings from ratings agencies that are 503 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: lower credit rating is highly likely if the Victorian government 504 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: continues with its irresponsible spending. 505 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 13: It's amazing that I can't seem to concern about this, reader, 506 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 13: And as you said, they've had warnings from global agencies 507 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 13: to rain in their operating costs. I mean, it's unbelievable 508 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 13: that the premiers said they'll raise taxes and you know, 509 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 13: cut where they can. Well, maybe she should start with 510 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 13: cutting some of the eighty seven staff she has on 511 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 13: you know, it's just ridiculous. They plan to introduce taxes 512 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 13: as the what is it, what the congestion levy tax, 513 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 13: the Emergency Service Fund, and yet she still plans to 514 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 13: give four hundred dollars to each parents of state school children. 515 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 13: It's just ridiculous. They haven't got a clue and they're 516 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 13: going to end up in deep, deep trouble. 517 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: Reader, Well, we've had some revelations in the last couple 518 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: of days. Victorian state government documents released under the. 519 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: Freedom of information. 520 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: Laws have shown that the Dan Andrews government approved six 521 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: point five million dollars in taxpayer funds for a last 522 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: stitch attempt to pump up the Yes Votina, just weeks 523 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: from the referendum. Again, this is a state in financial 524 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: peril and they're spending our taxes on this divisive activism. 525 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: For the record, Teina, the majority of Victorian's voted no. 526 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 13: Yeah, as we all did. Just unbelievable he would approve this, 527 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 13: you know they're saying now they didn't actually give the money, 528 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 13: but who would know the money was approved and went somewhere, 529 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 13: So we'll never hear the end of that story. Unbelievable reader, 530 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 13: Such such waste. Another thing I can't believe is they're 531 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 13: still running COVID nineteen programs and the Premier said she 532 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 13: planned to, you know, end those. Well why are they 533 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 13: still running all this time over the disaster COVID period? 534 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 3: Oh, there are so many questions. Let's go down to 535 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 3: the Mornington Peninsula. The Shire councilors there have stripped the 536 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: council's bureaucrats of the ability to control how flags are displayed, 537 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: both in print and on poles. After omitting the Australian 538 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: flag from a Shire kinder flyer that displayed the Aboriginal flag. 539 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 3: It had the Torres Strait Islander flag and the Pride flag. 540 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: No Australian flag. It's shocking enough to you now to 541 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: exclude our national flag, the only one that is actually 542 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: truly inclusive of everybody, but the inclusion of the Pride 543 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: flag is particularly odd. 544 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: We're talking about kindergarten kids here. 545 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 13: Ah, Look, these people not only should their powers be stripped, 546 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 13: they should be sacked. 547 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, Rita. 548 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 13: We really should only have one flag and do inclusive 549 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 13: for everyone, and we all stand under that flag. It's 550 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 13: just nuts that they were introduced confusing these young children 551 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 13: at such an early age with you know, a number 552 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 13: of different flags. It's just ridiculous. Now, I'm pleased to 553 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 13: say there's been outrage com communities and rightly so. 554 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: Now before you go, Tina, I've got some amusing footage here. 555 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: Victoria Police has released this CCTV footage of a burglar 556 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: dancing to what police believe was Bruce Springsteen's dancing in 557 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: the dark, just moments before he ran off with around 558 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: five thousand dollars worth of computer equipment from a. 559 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: School in Sunbury. 560 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: The criminal seemed to be quite happy here in Victoria Teena. 561 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the rest of the community. 562 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 13: Well picked, he picked the right song. I mean, clearly 563 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 13: he enjoys his works. I don't know what this guy 564 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 13: was on, but it was just insane, insane footage, and 565 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 13: I hope they catch up with. 566 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: Him so. 567 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: Well. 568 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 3: The lighting seems to be quite strong where he's chosen 569 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: to do his little dad, so yeah, thank god. They 570 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: may catch up with him pretty shortly, but in this state, 571 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he. 572 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: Has much to fear. Tina McQueen, thank you so much 573 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: for your time tonight. 574 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 13: Thanks Reaver. 575 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it. Let's start with 576 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: Greta Thumbberg. She's heading to Garza on a boat. You 577 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: think the people in that region have suffered enough, but no, 578 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: now they have the little Swedish doom Goblin en route 579 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: to the wall zone to save the day. 580 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 5: Will attempt to again sail towards the Gaza and to 581 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 5: try to break the siege and open up a humanitarian 582 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: code or by delivering aid. Keep trying everything we can, 583 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 5: even if the odds are against us, to try to 584 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: protest and do everything we can to stand against Israel's 585 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: atrocities and war crimes. 586 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: And Greta Thunberg got a little bit, or at least 587 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: she tried to when describing the goals of the Freedom flotilla. 588 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Really need to keep these theater kids out of geopolitics. 589 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: We are doing this because no matter what odds we 590 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 5: are against, we have to keep trying, because the moment 591 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: we stop trying is when. 592 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 14: We lose our humanity. 593 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 10: And no matter how dangerous this mission is, it is 594 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 10: now and near as dangerous as the silence of the 595 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 10: entire world. 596 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: Now, just imagine the arrogance, the delusion, the spectacular stupidity 597 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: of believing that the Israelis or even her mask give 598 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: a flying fruit bat about what Greta and her bunch 599 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 3: of weird own nosering wearing pronoun announcing lefty maates think. 600 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: We're on the Maduin. 601 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: We have been trying to sail to Luzza with aid, 602 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: with solidarity and love for so long, and we are one. 603 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: Huge step closer to getting to Dazza now. 604 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: And it was all fun and games and singers longs. 605 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: For a while. 606 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: The silence. But as Greta and her mates near the border, 607 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: they spotted drones and then came the calls for help. 608 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: Hello, Ron. 609 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: We are reporting you from them. 610 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 9: I've believe we are right now at eighty kilometers from 611 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 9: Greek lens and sixty. 612 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: Eight kilometers from Greek territorial orders. 613 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 14: What happened is that we just spotted a drone and 614 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 14: we confirmed it is a drone. 615 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: But we just lost a visual with it. 616 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: We could have either turned back or turned off the lights. 617 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 2: We need, We need your help. 618 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 12: That's it. 619 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: Please send This is less. 620 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 3: Sense now, this is an exciting development. Apparently you can 621 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 3: just serve yourself chicken nowadays. If the service take too long, 622 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: watch as this woman with a baby on her hip 623 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: loses it at eight Church's chicken outlet. 624 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 10: Oh my girl, my girl, County Bay, my girl fixing up. 625 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: Damn all right, wait, no, you know where you know? 626 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: I don't mind that I'm always getting these breast and 627 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: wing pieces when I want to get leg and thighs. 628 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: Maybe if I'm helping myself. 629 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Democrats now, they're not doing too well. 630 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: Trump is flying in the polls, particularly when it comes 631 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: to economic performance. 632 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 11: Plus eight point advantage for the Republican Party. 633 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 4: How is that possible? 634 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 12: Democrats? 635 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 11: How is that possible? After all the recession? Because after 636 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 11: the stock market's been doing all of this, after all 637 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 11: the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold 638 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 11: an eight point lead on the economy. 639 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? This is a CNN This is 640 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: new CNN, Poland I was that when we look for trends, 641 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: how is that trending with other data that you're pulling in? 642 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, if it was just this one CNN, Paul, that 643 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 11: would be one thing. But take a look at Reuter's ipsos. 644 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 11: What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan? 645 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: Well, it may have. 646 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 11: Twenty twenty four, just before Donald Trump was reelected president, 647 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 11: Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look at where we 648 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 11: are now and may have twenty twenty five, the advantage 649 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 11: actually went up by three points. 650 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 3: The Democrats and their propaganda, I'm including the painfully unfunny 651 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: comics on late night TV shows our in total denial. 652 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: Listen to this deranged discussion between Bernie Sanders and Stephen Colbert. 653 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 2: These people exist in a sad. 654 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: Parallel universe of their own. Get ready for a Hitler 655 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 3: analogy here. 656 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: But also we cannot wait. 657 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 11: We have to have mass protests, mobilization and disruption. Is 658 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 11: that what it's going to take because again there's five 659 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 11: hundred and twenty more days. 660 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 7: The truth of the matter is, I don't care if 661 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 7: you are a conservative, Republican or a progressive as I am. 662 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: You do not believe. 663 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 7: I mean, you just stop and think about it. Think 664 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 7: about the men and women who fought and died against Hitler, 665 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 7: fort and died against fascism, fort and died to defend 666 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 7: American democracy. And I think the vast majority of the 667 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 7: American people, regardless of the ideology, are not and cannot 668 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 7: and must not sit back and allow us to move 669 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 7: into an authoritarian type society where people get picked up 670 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 7: off the streets and put in detention centers. Really in 671 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 7: the United States of America, just. 672 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: Absolute derangement there from Bernie. 673 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: The American people overwhelmingly support deportation of illegal immigrants or 674 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 3: illegal immigrants. 675 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: Bernie still to come. 676 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump gives the Iranian regime an ultimatum. 677 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: Army Horowitz has the details. Welcome back. 678 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 3: Now we've already checked in on crazy Bernie Sanders. Let's 679 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: see how Eric Soorwell is traveling. This is the man 680 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 3: best known for dating a Chinese spy. He just released 681 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 3: this bizarre video see if you can understand what the 682 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 3: Democrats what Eric is trying to achieve. 683 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 14: Here, thy congressman, trying to help you put the is 684 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 14: up with Trump always chickening out on tariffs. 685 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: Anything else? 686 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 14: That's it. 687 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 2: Joining me now? 688 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: Is journalists and filmmaker Army Horowitz. 689 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: Army explain that video to me? 690 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: Are they suggesting Donald Trump needs. 691 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: To go high? 692 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: How do we tariffs while simultaneously being anti tariff? And 693 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: what's with the tacos? I'm genuinely lost with that video? 694 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean the video is here lost. The 695 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 4: video is absolutely awful, right, I mean, it was amateur hour, 696 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 4: it was stupid. But no tacos? Is is Trump always 697 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: chickens out? That's the kind of new the new new. 698 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: Saying the lais oh jays. 699 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 4: That's what it was. Really, Yeah, that's where it is. 700 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 4: That's exactly what that what that was. Just to be clear, Okay, 701 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 4: we don't right, So I am a soft shell taco 702 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: guy all the way. Okay, live or die. But if 703 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 4: it's it's unhinged to eat hardshell tacos, but if you are, 704 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: I think that, Look, he knows more about Chinese than Mexicans. 705 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give him that, but I get a 706 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: hard held taco from Taco Bell is Therida's look of right, 707 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: that's what you got to eat. I don't know what 708 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: he's doing there. And first of all, I'm from La, 709 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 4: so in La, I'm a del taco guy, okay, all 710 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: the way, not tackle bell, that's the cheap stuff. So 711 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 4: I don't know what he was doing there. I know 712 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 4: what he was playing at. And also, yes, of course 713 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 4: the Democrats are in free fall. They know what to 714 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 4: do anti tariff pro TEARFF. They have no idea what's 715 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 4: going on. But I'll tell you this, I mean Trump 716 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 4: just you know, I've been critical of Trump's tariffs, right, 717 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 4: or at least some of them on the air with you, right, 718 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: But the guy just doubled down on tariffs and it 719 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 4: came to doubling the tariffs on steel. So I don't 720 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: know what they're talking about. Yeah, they are unhinged. They 721 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: don't know what's going on, and this video is a 722 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: perfect example of that. 723 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: It's almost like they're trying to just get a reaction 724 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 3: from Donald Trump by saying he's wake or he's chickening out, 725 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: and really, that is such an idiotic way to be 726 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 3: tackling the currents that you just trying to provoke Trump 727 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 3: into a response as if that's a win. Now, it's 728 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 3: Pride month, it's June, and under the Biden administration they 729 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 3: used to party long and hard marking the occasion. They 730 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 3: even let up the White House for Pride Month. That 731 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: those days are well and truly over, Army, The White 732 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt was asked how they would 733 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 3: mark Pride months. 734 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 12: Does the President have any plans on making a proclamator? 735 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 12: Is it just going to be due this year? 736 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 15: There are no plans for a proclamation for the month 737 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 15: of June, but I can tell you this president is 738 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 15: very proud to be a president for all Americans, regardless 739 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 15: of Greece, religion, or creed. 740 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: The party is over. 741 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 3: Has there been much of a reaction to that, army, 742 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 3: much of a backlash? 743 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, because that was the right answer, right. The 744 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 4: right answer is, Look, we're not looking at single out 745 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 4: one person, one religion, one sexual orientation. We're all Americans. 746 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 4: But the Balkanization of this country by the left has 747 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: has has proven fracturing for our society. The Democrats, this 748 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,439 Speaker 4: is their playbook, right that we want to separate, want 749 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 4: to isolate different people. We want to promote victimhood. 750 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 12: Uh. 751 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 4: This is kind of what they've been doing for years, 752 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 4: and we're we the country are worse off for it. Yeah. 753 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 4: Look a couple quick stories. You know, you know, I 754 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 4: have a coffee shop Love Coffee across street for me 755 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 4: and during Pride Month, they've got the Pride flag up. Look, 756 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 4: I got no problem with that. Look at a private company, 757 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 4: private business, you could do what you want. I got 758 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 4: no issue. But you know what a flag they don't 759 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 4: put up on July fourth. They don't put up the 760 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 4: American flag. That's right, That's what I'm like, there's a problem. 761 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: Right. 762 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 4: Look, you want to you want to celebrate all of it, 763 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 4: that's good, But you're making a business in the United States. 764 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 4: You're making a profit because of America. Yeah, put up 765 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 4: the American flag on July fourth. Another quick story. A 766 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 4: friend of mine got married and she's going to be 767 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 4: baptized and they're on the left right, So they're going 768 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 4: this church and after she's baptized, she said, yeah, that 769 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 4: the priest is going to bring out the Pride flag 770 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 4: and bless the Pride flag. I mean, what in a 771 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 4: church in a religious ceremony. I don't get that at all. Look, 772 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 4: but what it does is this is the new This 773 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 4: is the religion of the left right. This is literally 774 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: and figuratively, and the New York Times is their scripture, 775 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 4: and the Pride flag is their crucifix. This is where we're. 776 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: At, yep. 777 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 3: But the Trump administration ain't having any of that now. 778 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: Earlier in the program, Army I featured Risha Thunberg and 779 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 3: her expedition to Gaza. What do you make of the 780 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: Swedish activists latest bit of well activism? 781 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's a gross narcissistic fool. Was that clear enough 782 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 4: for you? I mean, should I should? He was at 783 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 4: an off I hedge my bets there. No, she had awful, 784 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 4: terrible you know. Yeah, I want to do a how 785 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 4: dare you to an Israeli naval corvette with a thirty 786 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 4: two log cells of Barack air to surface missiles. I 787 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: want to pull that with the IDF. Okay, see how 788 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 4: far that gets? I want to I want to be 789 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: there for that. Look she they're saying they're starving Gaza, right, 790 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 4: feed Gaza. Yeah, I don't think you're the one feeding Gaza. 791 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 4: I think you may have forgotten that Israel has said 792 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 4: one point six million tons one point six tons of 793 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 4: food to h to the Goslins to feed them. Look, 794 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 4: there's been a connection between radical environmentalism and and the 795 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 4: Palestinians for years. I mean, if you go to a 796 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 4: environmental rally, you will always see a free Palestine rally 797 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 4: the same time, I should say it all to you 798 00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 4: right there. 799 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 3: Well, it's the usual suspect there is this unholy alliance 800 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 3: between the hard left with Islamists. It's all they share 801 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 3: a common enemy, which is the West, and conservatives staying 802 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 3: in that region don't want to ask you about. 803 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been quite clear. 804 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 3: Now with the Iranian regime that they must fully dismantle 805 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: their nuclear Richmond program as part of any deal they 806 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 3: want to have to ease the sanctions that are crushing 807 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: the country. 808 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 2: Tehran's not going to be very happy to hear this. 809 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 3: Trump administration has given some mixed messages to the Mullers, 810 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: but the key goal is to stop them from developing 811 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon. 812 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I think mixed messages is the proof weare 813 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 4: of saying it. Where it's not clear what's going on 814 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: with the Trump administration and Iran right, we're here reporting, 815 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 4: We're here Trump saying certain things. I think that the 816 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 4: reporting was, in fact, he was going to allow in Richmond. 817 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 4: Actually the reporting was that it was gonna be a 818 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: similar deal to the first Iran deal, which obviously would 819 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 4: be a problem for Israel in the United States. And then 820 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 4: if Trump then trying to clarify and saying no, I'm saying, 821 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 4: there's no Richmond. We don't know where it is. This 822 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 4: could be Trump playing good cop, bad cop, and him 823 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 4: he's playing both the roles, which is a traditional way 824 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 4: of playing good cop, bad cop. Right. I think he's 825 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 4: also scared that he that he that Israel will in 826 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 4: fact launch a unilateral attack on Iran. 827 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 13: Right. 828 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: I think that Israel is scared. They're looking at what 829 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 4: has gone on with the who Thi's and gone on 830 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 4: with Syria and potentially with Iran, and they're like, what's 831 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 4: going on here, And there's been a lot of noise 832 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 4: of them attacking Iran on their own. I don't think 833 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 4: Trump was looking for that, and I think he's trying 834 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 4: to preempt that by making this statement. Look, there's also 835 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 4: been some other issues that most a lot of people 836 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 4: aren't talking about. But I think are significant when it 837 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 4: comes to the Trump administration visa the Iran There's been 838 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 4: a purge in the Trump administration on the NSC when 839 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 4: it comes to Iran hawks, right, a number of people 840 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 4: in the Iran administration who's taking a very hard line 841 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 4: against Iran had been summarily fired or moved in different 842 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 4: positions within the administration. And that's an issue. And the 843 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 4: reporting going on is that he's looking for Iran. Does 844 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 4: that align more with the Vice president his isolation's wing 845 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 4: of the party than the more traditional Republican hockey special 846 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 4: in Israel. That's disturbing. Again, these are all things that 847 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 4: Trump is good as his grand master plan, right, and 848 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 4: we don't know if he's doing in fact, this is 849 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 4: all negotiation, aployer or actually what he's doing, we're not 850 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 4: gonna know until it's done. So we'll see. 851 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 3: Yep, well we'll see what's happening. Ami Horowitz, thank you 852 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: so much for your insights. Appreciated, and that's it from me. 853 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: Up next is news not so you are to live 854 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 2: in Tomorrow night