Speaker 1: All right, we're here the Daily Telegraph Funeral podcast, and
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say there's been a coup. There's four
Speaker 1: of us here, but there's somebody missing.
Speaker 2: Fresh blood baby. The takeover is on.
Speaker 3: He's missing, missing above the thousands.
Speaker 2: Oh what about this?
Speaker 1: Dave, Ricky, Brent Reid, Michael carrianas no Fiel roth Field.
Speaker 4: So he will be back next week. But didn't have
Speaker 4: enough chairs for us. So you have to have the
Speaker 4: throne demanded.
Speaker 1: You should if you ever get sacked from this joint,
Speaker 1: you have a future? Is a furniture removed seen in
Speaker 1: people just moving chairs around labors. Part of my just
Speaker 1: the name of some Spanish blokes. Things guys all in
Speaker 1: the checks and Dave and Island.
Speaker 2: You don't wear checks when you're recording on television.
Speaker 3: Secret to this shirt, I boarded online.
Speaker 4: You don't have to iron it, so I wear quite
Speaker 4: a lot of get to work.
Speaker 2: It's like a Seinfeld episode, the non ironing shirt.
Speaker 1: He's boarded online. A brag or what's what's the reason.
Speaker 3: Between Charles out there?
Speaker 4: You're looking to sponsor a young upcoming journalist, Charles to Wit,
Speaker 4: I'm here for you.
Speaker 3: In my mind, it's pretty good. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: It looks pretty that it's not bad. It's not, honestly,
Speaker 1: what's do?
Speaker 3: Tell them to take control? That's right, you take control
Speaker 3: of the shop, take control of my podcast.
Speaker 2: Should we do?
Speaker 5: Have?
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to do the best buzz impersonator.
Speaker 1: I need to get Russell Jackson in a very very
Speaker 1: good impersonator. All right, let's get into it, Kaylen Ponger,
Speaker 1: My goodness to quote the great ron Berger. That escalated quickly.
Speaker 1: I mean, that really got.
Speaker 3: Out of control fast man.
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there the other day and Knights fans
Speaker 1: freak out when a statement gets released on Cale and Ponger.
Speaker 2: We all thought, oh god, the Rusters have got their man.
Speaker 1: There was truth to it after all, And no, Calen
Speaker 1: decides he's pulling out of the Pacific Championships, won't make
Speaker 1: himself available for the n TOW tests, and the Knights
Speaker 1: support his decision and won't enter any more commentary. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's really their decision from now,
Speaker 1: because it says like there's a bit of trouble going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sort of half paint understand why he's done it. Well, look,
Speaker 4: I don't think he's done the right thing. I think
Speaker 4: Calvin Stre's adopted son. I think the issue is he
Speaker 4: didn't reach out to Mal first. He should have gone
Speaker 4: to Mal first, rung mail Ninger and said Mail were
Speaker 4: want to focus on the Knights. I prefer not to
Speaker 4: be considered for I think Mel would have understood, knowing
Speaker 4: Mel Mal wants guys, you want to play for the
Speaker 4: Jump and want to play for the team.
Speaker 3: I think Mel would have accepted that.
Speaker 4: But the fact he didn't wring Mel and they just
Speaker 4: put a statement out, that's just everything's.
Speaker 3: Just gone out of kilt after that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with reading.
Speaker 6: I think still would have been literally disappointed, right, But
Speaker 6: at least the fact that Kaylen sort of fronted up
Speaker 6: initially and then spoken to him, I think would have
Speaker 6: quelled some of the angst and some of the vitual
Speaker 6: that's coming from head office.
Speaker 2: Because the office an't happy about it. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 6: They're unhappy with Kaylen, that happy with the way it
Speaker 6: played out, down happy with Knights supporting him as well.
Speaker 2: But what are they supposed to do?
Speaker 3: Ask a quick question?
Speaker 4: I noticed Kln's over here and he's looking in the
Speaker 4: opposite direction, looking the other way, he's looking the other
Speaker 4: way back on the nation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the I think it goes
Speaker 2: deeper than that.
Speaker 5: I think the whole dynamics of the decision and the
Speaker 5: process of the decision.
Speaker 2: I think it has a lot of layers to it.
Speaker 5: And a lot of intrigue because we don't really have
Speaker 5: many father son manager player relationships in the game. And
Speaker 5: this is how it unfolded with Andre having a meeting
Speaker 5: with Newcastle Knights CEO Phil Gardner, and emerging from that
Speaker 5: meeting was Gardner effectively ringing the football department to say, hey,
Speaker 5: we need to put a statement out or Ponger's camp
Speaker 5: will And I don't know about you, fellas, but I
Speaker 5: don't really see that conversation being had where managers and
Speaker 5: players are dictating to a club on putting statements out.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine that happening at Penrith with Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can imagine it happened in I just I
Speaker 6: can't imagine it happening me.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't happen very often. I just think that.
Speaker 6: The Ponger camp should have lent on Newcastle a little
Speaker 6: bit more and planned it better and allowed Newcastle to
Speaker 6: put a statement out or whatever the case may be
Speaker 6: on Callan's behalf. But I think it was all pretty
Speaker 6: rushed and they just had to get their ducks in
Speaker 6: a row a little bit better before all a statement.
Speaker 5: Now it's hugely naive from the camp but also to
Speaker 5: Phil Gardener. Now you don't know the process of respecting
Speaker 5: the process is surprising from my point.
Speaker 6: Sure they would have told Taylor, someone in that joint
Speaker 6: would have told Calan, mate, you should pick up the
Speaker 6: phone to Mount.
Speaker 3: He was told he was someone close.
Speaker 6: Someone someone told the coland camp camp. I feel sorry
Speaker 6: Newcastle supposed to do here. They can't alienate can probably
Speaker 6: Knights backing there. Me it's it's I'm not.
Speaker 4: Say if you're a Newcastle fan and you see the
Speaker 4: Kalins ruled himself of rep footage because he wants to
Speaker 4: win a camp and do everything you can to win
Speaker 4: a camp, I think it endears you to call More
Speaker 4: as a Knight.
Speaker 5: So when State of Origin comes around next year, he
Speaker 5: will be pulling out of that as well as Origin.
Speaker 2: Why because he wants.
Speaker 3: To win a commod focusing his pre season right.
Speaker 2: Focus is to go and win the camp.
Speaker 6: Origin is way more disruptive than two tests or three
Speaker 6: pass end of the season.
Speaker 3: But it's about getting himself right to start the Sea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to the miss games for the Knights during
Speaker 2: the Origin.
Speaker 6: Origin is way more missed one two games, yeah, but
Speaker 6: then the flow and effects.
Speaker 4: But that's not what it's about him being right to
Speaker 4: start the season, start the season. Well, but that sets
Speaker 4: him up for Origin when he's not there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, of course it does. That's the ridiculous
Speaker 2: that's what he said.
Speaker 3: But that.
Speaker 5: Was contrast and confliction of what he's actually saying is
Speaker 5: confliction a word?
Speaker 3: Now, it's not confliction.
Speaker 6: What's more detrimental to Newcastle's premiership hopes the fact that
Speaker 6: Kaylin misses a month of pre season or or he
Speaker 6: has a month six eight six eight weeks interrupted in
Speaker 6: the middle of the season.
Speaker 3: Well, he'll only miss one, maybe two games for the
Speaker 3: nights interrupted saying what do you mean interrupted? Two games?
Speaker 6: I'm not going to train. He's going to have to
Speaker 6: try and back up. What's important he trains, he spends
Speaker 6: the whole pre season with my question, my question, my question, listen,
Speaker 6: my question is what is more detrimental to Newcastle missing
Speaker 6: a month of pre season?
Speaker 3: Yes, potentially yes, it's not wrong for the season.
Speaker 2: Kids, you're kidding, is it? You're right? Are you? Are
Speaker 2: you kidding?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Because you're not respectable? I'm in total of my view,
Speaker 3: so total of my opinion, David.
Speaker 5: So, while he's training with the Kangaroos and playing with
Speaker 5: the Kangaroos, yes, he's keeping fit, but.
Speaker 3: Then he misses.
Speaker 4: He doesn't start the Knights preseason till I get over
Speaker 4: the five weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah after when he will?
Speaker 2: Okay, I get that.
Speaker 3: Well that's his point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the period point.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but I just don't know.
Speaker 6: I get that point, but I don't understand your point
Speaker 6: where you think that a test against Samoa New Zealand,
Speaker 6: sorry tongue on New Zealand. What is it about that
Speaker 6: it's more detrimental than playing Origin.
Speaker 4: Missing a month of the pre season and potentially could
Speaker 4: be more detrimental than missing two games to an Origin.
Speaker 6: But it's not just it's not just the games around origins,
Speaker 6: everything that origins.
Speaker 3: But well, then you spent five months to four months together,
Speaker 3: five months together, Well then it's not that detrimental.
Speaker 5: He misses some training, I think, and missing games for
Speaker 5: Newcastle during the origin period is more detrimental missing doing
Speaker 5: time trials and beat tests.
Speaker 6: But this is not a sledge on This is a
Speaker 6: sledge on you, not Kail. Yeah, sledge and Kalen s
Speaker 6: leedgend your take on it, Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't want there to be a three to sixty
Speaker 1: star three on one bash.
Speaker 2: We've all don there. You got metal position.
Speaker 1: Like question remains. Has the honor of the Kangaroo's jersey
Speaker 1: been diminished as a result.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 6: People are saying this no because it's not going to
Speaker 6: be a not a common occurrence, right like people Some
Speaker 6: people have tried to compare it to cricketers going to
Speaker 6: play T twenty around the world. They're totally different arguments, right,
Speaker 6: because how many players are pulling out of playing for
Speaker 6: the Kangaroo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's super rare, well plenty, Actually it's super rad
Speaker 4: plan for Samoa.
Speaker 2: It's super No, but they're playing tonational for you.
Speaker 3: They're pulling out of playing for the Kangaroo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get that right, But we're talking about just
Speaker 6: in the Kangaroos. Zerzy, Okay, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 6: think we're going to say a massive Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look what you're saying is you don't think we're going
Speaker 5: to see it's not a common occurrence. The game makes
Speaker 5: has to make sure it's not a common occurrence. And
Speaker 5: that's why how.
Speaker 2: Many people are going to payer is just.
Speaker 3: Specific on.
Speaker 5: They can't just show this pronger situation away and just
Speaker 5: say yeah, you know, look you we should be playing
Speaker 5: Origin next year.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 5: So there needs to be some type of parameter around
Speaker 5: players not willing nearly pulling out because the jersey will
Speaker 5: be doing on the standard will be diminished.
Speaker 2: On the flip side of that day.
Speaker 6: Where do we stand on players that are going to
Speaker 6: pull out for some for tong Enol, for Fiji because
Speaker 6: there's a heap of players that aren't going to put
Speaker 6: their hand up for those countries either, Where do we
Speaker 6: stand on those?
Speaker 2: Because I stand on equal footing, you know.
Speaker 6: So what's the punishment we're going to have, like thee
Speaker 6: if they're all suspended, because there's a lot of blokes
Speaker 6: that we've heard that aren't playing.
Speaker 2: The growth of the.
Speaker 5: Game is so important and attached to the international game, correct,
Speaker 5: and so if it means threatening them with a with
Speaker 5: a one match band to start the season, so be.
Speaker 2: I just think it. Look, I think it's harsh process
Speaker 2: that will go down. Look to be fair, war war
Speaker 2: is different to the way Kalen has handled it.
Speaker 5: Compared to your point, Mike, of blokes pulling out of
Speaker 5: some or et set your.
Speaker 6: Fiji for legitimate reasons, if they've got a reason and
Speaker 6: legitimate conversations and communication with those head coaches.
Speaker 2: This hasn't happened with Poller.
Speaker 3: The communication was the issue in this. Yes, it's the problem.
Speaker 2: Two things.
Speaker 1: So One, I don't necessarily think that kangaroos jersey is
Speaker 1: going to be diminished. Sitting out there at Panthers training
Speaker 1: the other day when I dusted off the dict phone
Speaker 1: and got out there, because you blokes from.
Speaker 2: Days come back, comebacks, well gold they talk about Alfie.
Speaker 3: I just mentioned, can you just ask one question for me?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? He asked?
Speaker 2: Did you ask?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But I had different people than what you needed.
Speaker 1: One question there.
Speaker 3: Was imagine where you've done that? Mate? What are you
Speaker 3: doing be blowing us up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Move on?
Speaker 2: Well I thought it was fantast So can I sit
Speaker 2: in your seat out there this week?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I care for what you're wishing for, all right?
Speaker 1: So do with meetings with more and the day the
Speaker 1: side having a ready it will be thirty degrees. I'll
Speaker 1: still be in a jumper a.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: But the point being I was total leam Martin about
Speaker 1: end of season and he said, I said, I might
Speaker 1: try and get up to Brisbane for that Kangaroos Tonga test.
Speaker 2: I might let me know I might see.
Speaker 1: You up there, because oh, I don't want to get myself.
Speaker 2: Don't say that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put myself there too early. But
Speaker 1: he's desperate to play, to play for the Kangaroos, and
Speaker 1: there's some guys there really see some value in that
Speaker 1: Green and Gold jumpers, which is great to see. It's
Speaker 1: just at twenty six years old, Caylen Ponger has still
Speaker 1: not represented his country apart from unless you count the
Speaker 1: nine for the NURL counter of nine thoughtament, don't they
Speaker 1: that's the cheeky on that one cheeky smother.
Speaker 2: They did play frustrata, which means that it rules him
Speaker 2: out of playing. There's some good there's some very good
Speaker 2: people in at the NRL.
Speaker 3: That's an international rule, international board.
Speaker 2: They went to that. They went to the big you know,
Speaker 2: a big fat phone side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, seven hundred and four we should we should actually,
Speaker 6: well we should do is go back and have to
Speaker 6: go those nine squads and see what's if there's been
Speaker 6: any other Yeah.
Speaker 3: True, I think you're changing stands.
Speaker 4: Actually does what do you mean from the Ponger camp
Speaker 4: and the Knights, Oh, that he might play, that he
Speaker 4: may potentially make himself available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're suddenly just coming out with this now, I just.
Speaker 3: Thought of it then.
Speaker 4: Just no, I think that the well, the Knights have
Speaker 4: been reminded about it how the rules work, and I
Speaker 4: think Katlin's been reminded how the rules work.
Speaker 3: And I think you'll find him that.
Speaker 4: I don't know this for sure, but I suspectly some
Speaker 4: form of maybe a backdown of some form.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: Would you pick? It?
Speaker 6: Would surprise me, he said, because I think he would
Speaker 6: have been in that original twenty one man squad around
Speaker 6: it's around twenty two, twenty one or twenty two players
Speaker 6: they picked last year.
Speaker 2: They picked twenty one for.
Speaker 3: The Dylan Edwards, don't you know. I think Dylan Edwards
Speaker 3: and the way Teddy's.
Speaker 6: Going, I think he's in the squad they carried Nico
Speaker 6: last year and has a similar role to Nino would
Speaker 6: have done. Nico played a couple of tests off the bench,
Speaker 6: and I think Kaalen would have put pressure on Ben
Speaker 6: Hunt for that bench spot, Watson for that bench spot,
Speaker 6: whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: I think he would have been in the squad was
Speaker 1: in tremendous form. But the other bloke, James Tedesco, has
Speaker 1: been amazing.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous standing.
Speaker 5: I read that column about the Rooster's leadership void and
Speaker 5: the blokes just stood up and shut shut that column
Speaker 5: up because he's led them.
Speaker 3: Are you claiming you had spired?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going I'm not going that far. He
Speaker 2: has been enormous.
Speaker 5: He's been as a leader for a club that has
Speaker 5: a has a leadership void or will it certainly next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been grateful them, hasn't he. I mean at
Speaker 4: the right time of year two. And I've lost a
Speaker 4: few bodies with Sammy Walker and you know Victor was
Speaker 4: out for a while obviously, so they've had some injuries.
Speaker 4: But he's sort of lifted lift his game with the
Speaker 4: right Tommy year for them.
Speaker 2: He's been in better form than Dylan Edwards over the
Speaker 2: last time with Dylan's.
Speaker 6: I get that right, but it's talking Dylan looks like
Speaker 6: he's struggling with that KNA a little bit. But like
Speaker 6: when we go back on these kangaroos number one Jersey
Speaker 6: at the same like, what do you do?
Speaker 3: What are you going? You're going Teddy?
Speaker 2: I know I'd get Teddy.
Speaker 3: He have to be captain then too.
Speaker 2: Right, now you've got Yo and you've got.
Speaker 3: Teddy in the team and not having as captain.
Speaker 2: I could have Teddy, but you've got options.
Speaker 6: Pretty crazy him in the team is not captain, just
Speaker 6: back in the like Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 2: I got the origin situation, but I would.
Speaker 3: I think Dylan was going to be the full back if.
Speaker 2: You said I'm not. I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 2: and argue either way. Yeah, yeah, really have an opinion
Speaker 2: for I probably could Teddy.
Speaker 6: Really, but if you say Dylan was was okay, okay,
Speaker 6: there's not a bad choice.
Speaker 2: That's fancy.
Speaker 6: I don't know, a win win pick. But now we're
Speaker 6: now loyal. Maw is to Teddy, and that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Mal is big on loyalty. So I think that sometimes
Speaker 1: say form goes out that we know, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's such as big a consideration with Mal. Sometimes
Speaker 1: as stick and loy but last year and Mel.
Speaker 4: Said he's going to pay a lot more heed to
Speaker 4: state always at footy, he said publicly a couple of times.
Speaker 3: And Dylan there was was the you said.
Speaker 2: Can you really given?
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the case, you'd pick someone like
Speaker 1: Zach Lomax.
Speaker 2: But Zack Lomax will be on the wings. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Dylan was on the wing last year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he can't play.
Speaker 5: You can take it as red Marriage saw that as
Speaker 5: one of the greatest weaknesses for the Kangaroos and went
Speaker 5: after So he won't be on the wing.
Speaker 6: Because so we've got the squad right that's online now
Speaker 6: and tomorrow's paper for the thirty man players and the
Speaker 6: wing options as Coats k as Zach Lomax take as
Speaker 6: a massive bolt selection in that Australian side because the
Speaker 6: center options are Travoyvitch Hamaso Stags, Bradman Best we also
Speaker 6: play on the wing, so that that might be the
Speaker 6: switch just with Dave. They can't play Dylan Edwards full
Speaker 6: back or date like one of those two need to
Speaker 6: start and the other ones not on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know it's still there's monster and
Speaker 2: clear play.
Speaker 3: Maybe he might change his mind.
Speaker 6: Monster and clear in that squad, but we don't expect
Speaker 6: them to be able to play for the Kangaroos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremyine and a really he said he's in some doubt.
Speaker 3: Play Jeremy and he's got all sorts of injuries.
Speaker 6: Homes also out with that broken leg, but pretty strong
Speaker 6: look inside with a few fair few debutantes potentially Australine debutantes,
Speaker 6: not international.
Speaker 2: De nice distinction. That was very good.
Speaker 3: I don't make back to you.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's been bubbling along non finals was
Speaker 1: this week joshadow car you guys report has been greener,
Speaker 1: permission to look else where. There was a third party inquiry,
Speaker 1: explained to the audience. The third party inquiries as these boys,
Speaker 1: so whether whether a player swap or something might have
Speaker 1: been able to go ahead with the team on the
Speaker 1: Dragons and McAuley Ravelawa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's it's it's a key figure.
Speaker 2: I know who the person is.
Speaker 5: So can you figure unrelated to the football club but
Speaker 5: extremely close to McAuley Radalawa who has opposed to dogs
Speaker 5: and said, would you be interested, particularly if you let
Speaker 5: Fox go to the Dragons. It could work as some severance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit of a.
Speaker 3: Kaylay has been told he's free to lead the dragons, right.
Speaker 2: The other has been told he.
Speaker 1: Can go and how long is what's he got left
Speaker 1: on his next year as West year.
Speaker 2: So that's how it came about.
Speaker 5: You know, I saw some Dragons fans if any Saints
Speaker 5: fans are out there watching listening, straight away gone Flanne
Speaker 5: is trying to you know, trade his dats and for
Speaker 5: a Porsche.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Can tell you now it wasn't planning again that was
Speaker 5: doing the communication or the pushing of this Rabelawa.
Speaker 3: But he'd take it suggestion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm just saying I just wanted to
Speaker 2: clarify what absolutely take it, take it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't protesting too loudly by the sound, that's not.
Speaker 5: It would be very much a Dat's in verse Porsche.
Speaker 2: Times.
Speaker 5: Look, there's still a little bit of water to flow
Speaker 5: because we still have to get through the five day
Speaker 5: breach notice period of which the Gneral have served Fox
Speaker 5: with only a.
Speaker 2: Couple of days ago. So I don't feel.
Speaker 5: As though we're going to get an outcome this weekend
Speaker 5: as far as any termination or release.
Speaker 2: Or movement from Fox.
Speaker 5: Out of a Canterbury But there's no denying that they're
Speaker 5: going to move on from him.
Speaker 2: So why are they moving on for him?
Speaker 1: What's is it the incident? Is it that they feel misled?
Speaker 1: Is it it's a compilation of everything Mobsie. Is it
Speaker 1: one year to go on his contract and paying a
Speaker 1: winger more than five hundred thousand a year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's that, But he's also averaged fourteen games over
Speaker 5: the past two seasons and that's a major factor when
Speaker 5: you're paying someone five hundred thousand dollars, and particularly a winger.
Speaker 2: So there's that.
Speaker 5: And now I say he averaged fourteen games in the
Speaker 5: last two seasons, I'd be really intrigued to see how
Speaker 5: many of those fourteen games he finished. There's been games
Speaker 5: there where he's come from the field, so he may
Speaker 5: have started in fourteen, but how many did he finish?
Speaker 5: Five hundred thousand dollars on the wing one year left
Speaker 5: to go, they have obviously Blake Wilson in their roster
Speaker 5: that they have high hopes for. And then there's the
Speaker 5: off fielding discretions, both of the Kurry knockout last year
Speaker 5: and now this situation here where the Dogs feelers they
Speaker 5: didn't never.
Speaker 2: Got the full story from the start. Yeah, because the
Speaker 2: Curry noock at as well.
Speaker 1: They'd learned some aspects of that incident when Fox appeared
Speaker 1: on a podcast yea, which didn't sit well with the club.
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. It's about these collection of issues.
Speaker 5: The Bradon Trindle example has been explained to me over
Speaker 5: the past week. How his misdemeanor off the field. He
Speaker 5: stepped up owned it, said guilty, guilty, guilty, this is
Speaker 5: what I did. But I sat down with the Sharks
Speaker 5: and said, you know, I need help take.
Speaker 2: Me out of the game.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: All the Dogs asked of Josh was to be upfront
Speaker 5: and honest, and they don't believe that they were getting
Speaker 5: the full context out of this situation.
Speaker 6: And furthermore, today's point, I think they'd already reconciled internally
Speaker 6: at the very least, so they.
Speaker 2: Won't going to extend his contract yes next season.
Speaker 6: Right, So this conversation I think would have happened regardless
Speaker 6: of the induscrition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you saw that with Reagan Campbell.
Speaker 1: Gillard released a year early, so you can get a
Speaker 1: multi year deal elsewhere, which can.
Speaker 4: Learn somewhere else someone else will pick him up once
Speaker 4: it's all cleared up, And it wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 4: he accepts the NL sanctions early rather than making for
Speaker 4: the five day period to the five day breach, not
Speaker 4: this period to expire and then not imagine he goes
Speaker 4: straight to market and his agent has to look around,
Speaker 4: and he'll have interest from at least two or three clubs.
Speaker 2: I'd imagine potential suitors.
Speaker 1: Dragons Ring is.
Speaker 3: An obvious one. Paramatta has been mentioned.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they were interested, but maybe that stands
Speaker 4: might have changed, but there'll be two or three i'd
Speaker 4: imagine at least.
Speaker 1: And look at the start of the year when the
Speaker 1: paramatter Josh hadow Car situation was floated. Now that they
Speaker 1: weren't against it back then, you know, when they were
Speaker 1: looking for that back line spark for that.
Speaker 2: It's time Lo Marx.
Speaker 6: Since then, that's shifted, but they got Michael Siebos is
Speaker 6: a similar situation to.
Speaker 2: The Bag and the while I like, it's hard.
Speaker 6: To have those half min dollar players or whatever, like
Speaker 6: rab Whiles deal gets up to almost five hundred thousand
Speaker 6: dollars next year, Like it's hard to carry that if
Speaker 6: you're not playing first grade, If you're going to buy
Speaker 6: over the top as well.
Speaker 4: But the one thing role is he spoke and when
Speaker 4: we sat down with him, he spoke about speed and
Speaker 4: when he wants his speed, speed in the middle, speed
Speaker 4: and the edges and Josh gives you speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so an interest and easy answer for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, onto Josh Hadaka's former team, the Storm taking on
Speaker 1: the Roosters sold out Amy Park.
Speaker 3: How good is that?
Speaker 6: Moved it before the graph. Yeah, there's nothing else going
Speaker 6: on that weekend. That's good, big news that the out there.
Speaker 6: It is real.
Speaker 2: It is huge news because.
Speaker 5: Melbourne comes to a standstill AFL weekend and for the
Speaker 5: NRL to have their shining moment with a sellout crowd
Speaker 5: focused on the Storm Roosters the night before the af
Speaker 5: L GF, I just I think it's huge. I think
Speaker 5: it's matt unbelievable for the game to get that exposure
Speaker 5: on a weekend where those crazy Victorians.
Speaker 2: Yeah seriously, well Fridays they don't know anything else is on.
Speaker 4: Usually they're expecting the break all all sorts of records,
Speaker 4: viewing records down there as well as well. With this
Speaker 4: game on Friday nights, it's a big night for that club,
Speaker 4: and they've had a lot of big nights over the
Speaker 4: years right in the storm on multiple comps and being
Speaker 4: a multiple Grand finals, and they're one of the.
Speaker 3: Great clubs we've got.
Speaker 4: But this is going to be a huge night for them.
Speaker 1: Ready, you got a piece on Harry Grant that appeared
Speaker 1: in the eight page League Central the Herald Sun for
Speaker 1: the first.
Speaker 3: Time Final Week AFL Final Week.
Speaker 1: Eight page lift out in the Herald Sundown there in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: I forgot this because you know he's racking up one
Speaker 1: hundred games this weekend. Harry Grant had four hundred games
Speaker 1: between game one and game two.
Speaker 3: That was crazy.
Speaker 4: So he played four hun days I think, and he
Speaker 4: said his first game, Cam was out, Cam Smith was out,
Speaker 4: and he came off the bench. Brandon Smith was there
Speaker 4: then and started the game and then obviously had to wait,
Speaker 4: as you said, four hundred and something days. In his
Speaker 4: second game, it was the last game I think. I
Speaker 4: think it would have been to the nineteen last of
Speaker 4: the season and Cam Smith was going they already wrap
Speaker 4: up the minor premiership and Cam Smith was going to
Speaker 4: come off just play half a game and he said
Speaker 4: the game didn't go as planned and cam Be been
Speaker 4: the competitor. Cam was just refused to come off d
Speaker 4: playing seven minutes in his second game.
Speaker 3: But he's like he's I.
Speaker 4: Think Harry's year has just got like I think midyear
Speaker 4: he hadn't been to Harry Grant we know and expect,
Speaker 4: but I reckon his last two months he's been outstanding.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what he's been. He's been a
Speaker 4: great captain for that footage. What he's better captain than
Speaker 4: a lot of people for it be.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what he's done. He's adopted the Cameron
Speaker 5: Smith's control of the referee mentality.
Speaker 2: Really have you noticed this?
Speaker 4: Let's keep an eye on it tomorrow. You know they've
Speaker 4: got a horror record under green Alkins. They have won
Speaker 4: like two of their last seven under let's keep it.
Speaker 4: And the Roosters that have a.
Speaker 3: Great recent record under Grand Atkins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Roosters record.
Speaker 5: Cam has been tutoring. He has Harry on how to
Speaker 5: just play the rock talk to the ref.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a poor young man, Harry.
Speaker 2: He's a champion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, young fellow always addresses him with respect. Get
Speaker 4: respect this podcasts you respect, You'll get to come back.
Speaker 2: Do me a favor and watch it tomorrow night. I do.
Speaker 1: I have noticed there's been times where there's a bit
Speaker 1: of the camera Smith where you can almost be a
Speaker 1: third bloke into the tackle and the last bloke off
Speaker 1: and you're just able to manage the defenses at that point.
Speaker 2: So he loves the best but terrific. Look.
Speaker 1: Question, this is a big ask of the Storm because
Speaker 1: they've got to do this with that Cameron Smith. They've
Speaker 1: got to win a Grand Final with that Cameron Smith.
Speaker 1: That's a big factor. They haven't really taken this step
Speaker 1: like they have this season since Kem retired.
Speaker 4: No I've played in the Grand Final. They just have
Speaker 4: one one, you know. I think you look at that spine.
Speaker 4: I look at Harry and how well Harry's going the mame.
Speaker 4: You look at that spine. There's no reason they can't
Speaker 4: win it. There's absolutely no reason they can't win it.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 3: When those blokes play together, they generally win.
Speaker 4: I think that when they played together this year, maybe
Speaker 4: they've lost one game or something this year.
Speaker 3: So when the four of them play, they're nigh on unbeatable.
Speaker 4: And I think if they make the Grand Final, I
Speaker 4: think this will be a tough test it's really tough
Speaker 4: tests this week.
Speaker 3: I reckon they win it. They get through this week smiling.
Speaker 2: Can the Rooster spring and upset?
Speaker 3: Why you smiling?
Speaker 2: Ah? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think you bagged me again. Have you got an issue?
Speaker 6: I'm just not as excited as you for the Melin
Speaker 6: to win the Grand Final. You'll be cheering them, You'll
Speaker 6: be cheering them on even partial Michael, you love the Storm,
Speaker 6: but I think it's more he's wearing a purple shirt.
Speaker 2: They cover your ears.
Speaker 6: But I think of the of the two games where
Speaker 6: they could cause an upset, I think the Rusters are
Speaker 6: more likely than the Sharks because the Rooster's forward pack.
Speaker 2: I think scoop.
Speaker 5: The Sharks are starting the longest price in fifteen years
Speaker 5: of pre limbs.
Speaker 6: I does think the roosters forward park the Roosters can
Speaker 6: overpower the Storm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6: I think the Roosters to have the edge in the forwards.
Speaker 6: So now I give the chicks a chance. I think
Speaker 6: they can win.
Speaker 2: I definitely do.
Speaker 3: But I said that.
Speaker 5: But listen, mate, you can't believe our bad word to
Speaker 5: start that game. Now the Roosters can't like the Roosters
Speaker 5: have to go down there and go hey, listen, we're
Speaker 5: not starting anything like yeah, but we will. We're going
Speaker 5: to start and be in this game from the opening
Speaker 5: set now if you are, I'll give him a massive chance.
Speaker 5: And the other point to that is they can't start
Speaker 5: like they started against Penrith either, so if they can
Speaker 5: correct that part of their game, Melbourne's form, the Sharks
Speaker 5: got back into that at fourteen ten at halftime, so
Speaker 5: I'll give him a huge chance.
Speaker 2: The Roosters, yeah, yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to Nelson soft of Solomono versus Jared where
Speaker 1: he are Hardgraves and that will be Although thanks again
Speaker 1: to the Sydney Roosters for not putting Jared up for
Speaker 1: media again this week, the scariest meet in rugby league,
Speaker 1: and they're too scared to put him up any chance.
Speaker 4: I think that's Jared's decision. I think Jared doesn't like
Speaker 4: doing media these days. He does it very selectively. We'd
Speaker 4: have done it two or three times this year maybe,
Speaker 4: I don't know, even does postmatch you know, when we're
Speaker 4: on the field to get him after games.
Speaker 3: He's very selective.
Speaker 4: About who he talks to, like he'll brush you and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you look over and he's
Speaker 4: talking and Josh.
Speaker 1: Morros leaderships needed ready tell him mate who to correct
Speaker 1: the whip?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, know that works. I'll I'll bring my mates,
Speaker 4: so the roosters that will go well.
Speaker 3: The malee list, yep, someone on the maining list.
Speaker 4: I went to the media the other day. You spoke
Speaker 4: to young Joe Sue good fellow. I'm looking for that
Speaker 4: relationship with Nelson and Jared. They've had some monstrous tussles
Speaker 4: over the years.
Speaker 5: What was Gordy trying to throw some bait in the
Speaker 5: water the other night?
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 2: What was he saying they got to or something?
Speaker 4: Apparently they had a stink at Kiwi training one day.
Speaker 4: So it was the year that I think that had
Speaker 4: a stink on the field. And then they turned up
Speaker 4: up apparently for the Kiwi squad, and you know they've
Speaker 4: said to each other, we are all right, cousin, they've
Speaker 4: gone you as good as gold. And then apparently Nelson's
Speaker 4: ripped in the tray and they have to be pulled
Speaker 4: to be separated.
Speaker 3: That that's the story that's doing the rounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, keeping eye on the other one.
Speaker 4: That story we've been spoken tomorrow.
Speaker 2: The other one.
Speaker 1: Another one of interest will be have a look at
Speaker 1: Joseph Marnhu and can a monster because it might have
Speaker 1: been an incident a little a couple years ago where
Speaker 1: Munster hit marn And I don't think marnin who has
Speaker 1: ever forgotten it. So I think he was good.
Speaker 2: He was good on the week played played three months before.
Speaker 6: He was back to his best. I try that he
Speaker 6: that he set up was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He just looked like.
Speaker 6: That Joey Marner which was which has commanded the attention
Speaker 6: with the Boar and he hasn't been like that the
Speaker 6: last few weeks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was easily his best performance for a while. Yea,
Speaker 2: And no concerns with sorry, just that's.
Speaker 4: Another reason why they are a threat to Melbourne. When
Speaker 4: Joey's back playing like that, he's a difference maker.
Speaker 2: And the almost career best for it.
Speaker 3: He was playing great.
Speaker 1: Victor Radley, no concerns about his returned.
Speaker 3: Early. Didn't you think he sort of warmed up to
Speaker 3: the to the tar He.
Speaker 6: Was really sore speaking of it, he was really sore
Speaker 6: when he went in and got injected again during the
Speaker 6: halftime break by the same doctor that injected Cooper Kromp
Speaker 6: they got him back for their Grand Grand Final and
Speaker 6: that he could have come back out in the second half,
Speaker 6: but the.
Speaker 2: Lead was.
Speaker 6: So large that they didn't need him. But apparently there's
Speaker 6: no further damage or anyone.
Speaker 5: As much as I give the Roosters a chance, my
Speaker 5: small concern is the is the form line in this
Speaker 5: match like manly, we're rocked?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely if the game was over after
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, unfortunately, that's.
Speaker 5: It, right, So you've got to be careful of your
Speaker 5: form lines of how dominant this win was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like you the Ruster a chance, but also
Speaker 4: wouldn't surprised as if Melbourne win by thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't see a blow out in that game. But
Speaker 6: I'll give the Rusters a chance. And because the Rusters
Speaker 6: aren't going to play touch forty like Nobe won't play
Speaker 6: touch forty like merely like two sometimes, correct, I.
Speaker 5: Reckon you, Mick penwth put thirty on the roost of
Speaker 5: two weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a possibility of to storm. That was
Speaker 6: one and a half out of ten performance from the
Speaker 6: Panthers in a time where the ruses their first game
Speaker 6: with all those players missing as well.
Speaker 2: I had two books.
Speaker 6: Uncharacteristic bit from Joe Marn who is just like vintage
Speaker 6: Joe Marna to set up that try m.
Speaker 2: Very good player, good play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it goes good.
Speaker 2: So Panthers Sharks.
Speaker 1: You've sort of stole my opening line there about the Snarks,
Speaker 1: any hope because you're on.
Speaker 2: And they hey, there are fighters chance. It's not denying that.
Speaker 5: Like I was thinking about this, guys, if we let's
Speaker 5: just say the impossible happens. Let's just we we sit
Speaker 5: back and go, well, and Penet's sitting there, how will
Speaker 5: they explain why they got beat? And if you think
Speaker 5: about it, how many games has Nathan played?
Speaker 2: Now? One in eight weeks? Is it? Am I righting that?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: How many weeks did he miss?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Roughly, you know, so roughly right. We've spoken about Dylan
Speaker 2: Edwards easy carrying an injury. All right.
Speaker 5: We heard Mitch Kenny speak on three point sixty last night.
Speaker 5: He openly declared this is the most disruptive season the
Speaker 5: Panthers have ever had. A few weeks ago, they got
Speaker 5: beat by the Raiders in camera. They had to pinch
Speaker 5: that win against the Dolphins at home. This is a
Speaker 5: Panther side that has been uncharacteristically had dips. Now, as
Speaker 5: dominant as they were against the Roosters in week one,
Speaker 5: they need to do it again, of which they probably
Speaker 5: haven't done all year.
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, they were just so good against the roost
Speaker 2: I'll give.
Speaker 4: The Sharks next to no chance, the closest thing to
Speaker 4: no chance is possible.
Speaker 3: I'm not a one chance as they might get flogged.
Speaker 2: Three men.
Speaker 3: They might, and I think the only thing.
Speaker 4: The thing that gives them hope, I think is that
Speaker 4: he is a great coach, and he might I come
Speaker 4: up with something, something galvan that damage.
Speaker 3: But I just don't think they can go with the.
Speaker 5: One thing that the one thing I'm with you, as
Speaker 5: I said, the Sharks are four dollars outside is the
Speaker 5: longest price in a prelimp short right, So.
Speaker 2: The forgot what I was going to say, which is
Speaker 2: very rare.
Speaker 5: The thing that gets me is that they was so
Speaker 5: poor in that first half against Melbourne.
Speaker 2: If they can correct that.
Speaker 3: The second half was diabolically Melbourne.
Speaker 5: But that's because they had to do all the work
Speaker 5: in the first half. If they can correct that, and
Speaker 5: you everyone knows you've got to stay with Penrith early.
Speaker 2: You have to stay you can't give them a start.
Speaker 5: And if you go back to their pre limbs when
Speaker 5: they've had a week off Penrith, they've gone down early
Speaker 5: south Adam twelve nil in a prelim. So if somehow
Speaker 5: the Chronola can stay in the fight early, there are
Speaker 5: punches chance, but other than that, Ready's right, they could
Speaker 5: get spanked.
Speaker 1: The Ramian injury concern worries me because your back five
Speaker 1: were very good against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about those fom ones in a second. Whether
Speaker 2: you reckon that's a great line.
Speaker 1: Leading into it, but your back five gets your plenty
Speaker 1: of yards, plenty of runs out of your back five there,
Speaker 1: which then Braid that allowed guys like Braden Trina what
Speaker 1: a performance he had, I mean after the year and
Speaker 1: so good the dramas that he's had to be able
Speaker 1: to turn out that performance and take the pressure off
Speaker 1: Niko Hines. But then you've got to be almost a
Speaker 1: nine out of ten again to try and pin Penrith
Speaker 1: down their own area, because if they get yardage and
Speaker 1: then Nathan Cleary gets he's way with his kicking game,
Speaker 1: you can't beat you can't beat a Nathan Cleary dominated game.
Speaker 2: The same race with the Ramian injury is that it's Talakai.
Speaker 5: And what Ramian brings is yardage carries of one hundred
Speaker 5: and thirty run meters per game. Taller Chai brings the same. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he made a State of Origin team playing at center.
Speaker 5: He's got he's got an ability to attract defenders, He's
Speaker 5: got a beautiful pass. I don't have a massive problem
Speaker 5: at all with taller Kai coming straight into the centers.
Speaker 2: As far as I believe, I'm with you. Ramian has
Speaker 2: been huge, but but taller Kai is a likeful like
Speaker 2: for me. But you're right, like.
Speaker 5: Penalty legups which Kernela have been giving teams, it will
Speaker 5: just kill them Against Penrith, it got to be so disciplined.
Speaker 1: Nick, where does I have and clearly sit If Penrith
Speaker 1: make a fifth Grand Final and win four straight, he's
Speaker 1: still got.
Speaker 6: Another fifteen twenty years of potential coaching in the NRL.
Speaker 6: So I think at the moment, you know Bellamy and
Speaker 6: Ben at the one two and then.
Speaker 1: They ever made five straight. Greend foves No. One to
Speaker 1: four straight.
Speaker 3: But Wayne's won how many premierships seven? I would say
Speaker 3: the difference is they've.
Speaker 4: Rebuilt, right, They've regenerated rosters over time.
Speaker 3: Ivan's in a purple patch.
Speaker 4: Now let's see when they have a lean patch whether
Speaker 4: he can rebuild and regenerate. But the Broncos over a
Speaker 4: twenty year period, but twenty years.
Speaker 1: That ninety twenty three side, well they should have won
Speaker 1: more Premierships probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Ivan's doing it.
Speaker 3: But the Dragons there was a red.
Speaker 6: Hot camera tea. You look at that camera side. That
Speaker 6: was not a four here. That was not a Mond.
Speaker 2: Team either, that Raiders team.
Speaker 6: It's just a shame those two never sides never played
Speaker 6: in a Grand Final in those nineties period.
Speaker 4: But Jeroal I'm saying that, I think that's this period
Speaker 4: of he's in this patch now with this club's producing
Speaker 4: all these footballers or all the superstar and they are
Speaker 4: the superstars. That's what they're getting raided, right, and they've
Speaker 4: done a really good job to maintain that. But at
Speaker 4: some point they're going to have a dip, right. The
Speaker 4: challenge is into to rebuild their team and bring it
Speaker 4: back up and peak again.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: That's what Craig and I think Wayne have done to
Speaker 3: a certain extent.
Speaker 6: It's just the longevity of the other two for in
Speaker 6: terms of sustained success over to more than two decade period. Right,
Speaker 6: that's the only thing that separates them from mine and Ivan.
Speaker 6: As I said, in ten years time, he might you
Speaker 6: surp them.
Speaker 1: But any the thing that I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys take into a consideration that the keeping the guys
Speaker 1: as hungry as they are huge, That that's coaching.
Speaker 2: That that's what that's down to, Cleary, So that's what
Speaker 2: will Bella, Me and Bennett have done the same. Now
Speaker 2: they haven't. They haven't had five.
Speaker 6: Five Grand finals, but they've kept that core group hungry
Speaker 6: for an extent.
Speaker 2: But you've just said they've had to dip and come
Speaker 2: back up and read that was reading me. I was
Speaker 2: ready and Craig, And Craig hasn't had any dips.
Speaker 3: What do you mean, have a little think called the salary. Yes,
Speaker 3: that was a fair dip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they largely what do they do the
Speaker 2: next year?
Speaker 3: I thought the players go after that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they dip because they're stripped points.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're talking, but they also players have to leave
Speaker 4: because of that Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Okay, My point is that Craig Bellamy has not had.
Speaker 6: A sustained dip at Melbourne have they They've always played
Speaker 6: finals foot you except for the year.
Speaker 3: But that's but that's the point, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the point I'm making. I'm actually agreeing with you. Good.
Speaker 2: So he's been so angry for but you look, you
Speaker 2: look angry, man.
Speaker 3: Look I'm.
Speaker 2: Angry.
Speaker 3: That's called angry.
Speaker 2: Are you angry?
Speaker 4: Little any breakfast? He's like a horse with only breakfast
Speaker 4: in parents afford to keep up with him.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. He's not a he's not a junk
Speaker 1: food guy. He's a mochl star.
Speaker 3: He's a temple mate for Australia.
Speaker 1: But you look at we talk about we talk about
Speaker 1: Penrith's dominance and but you look at the Grand Falls.
Speaker 1: They only just got out of the line against South
Speaker 1: within a whistle of getting beaten by Bridges.
Speaker 2: How tough it is.
Speaker 1: And that's that's again down to the mentality of the
Speaker 1: team and the coaching of Cleary to show that these
Speaker 1: this team's never beaten.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think Ivan and I don't think you blokes
Speaker 1: have given Ivan as the raps that he deserves.
Speaker 2: It's because he doesn't have relationships in the middle.
Speaker 6: We talk about the raps I'm saying he's just below
Speaker 6: Ben and a Bellamy, who are the greatest coaches of
Speaker 6: all time.
Speaker 3: That's a fair saying you should be on that level.
Speaker 1: I think if I think if they go to a
Speaker 1: fourth Premiership, then he's up there, he's up there, he's
Speaker 1: up there, he's with them, and he might go past
Speaker 1: them the way they're going, because there's no end insight
Speaker 1: for this.
Speaker 5: Because Ivan does his own thing and his own scheme
Speaker 5: and doesn't cultivate the media.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say I'm not close with Benet or Bellamy.
Speaker 4: Dave Way one seven.
Speaker 3: Premiers A fair point, Mick, but it's a few more
Speaker 3: than three.
Speaker 6: Three in arguing about we all believe that Ivan is
Speaker 6: going to be in the top echelon of coaches. He is,
Speaker 6: He's destined, potentially potentially the way they're tracking, to be
Speaker 6: the greatest coach of all times. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 6: there yet. He's gone past all right. So one of
Speaker 6: the ones like Trent Robinson right was probably always considered
Speaker 6: that next tier down those guys and tracking, I think
Speaker 6: he's gone past that. I think he's gone past that, now,
Speaker 6: do you know what I mean? So that's that's the
Speaker 6: tip where yeah four Grand Final. Yeah it's gone past Robber,
Speaker 6: Okay with you, That's that's what I mean. So now
Speaker 6: he's in that that next year where you're talking like
Speaker 6: coaching grades like Tim Sheen's and Warren Ryan and Jack
Speaker 6: Gibson's with with Bellamy and Bennett right there the there
Speaker 6: the tree, the Holy tra would be those three right
Speaker 6: either now.
Speaker 2: Sits with that. You've got him at four.
Speaker 6: I've got him with with a group of Warren Ryan
Speaker 6: and Tim Sheen's and that that group there is probably
Speaker 6: where I sit him at the moment.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I both sort of agree.
Speaker 2: You were very quiet there, Dave.
Speaker 6: No, I'm just he's got flat one.
Speaker 1: Can't wait till ten years time having this chat with
Speaker 1: Ryle's or those premierships.
Speaker 2: Going on? Should we get the listener questions?
Speaker 6: That's the only one email this week, so lots of
Speaker 6: ones from Twitter x Steve wants to know what are
Speaker 6: the chances or the Sharks against Rooster's Grand Final. I
Speaker 6: personally believe it will occur. From Steve Brigsy Briggs.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to take your bet, but minimum minimum steaks
Speaker 1: a thousand if you want.
Speaker 5: The chances of Zeroy I remind at this point now
Speaker 5: that Ready has declared the zero and also the Sharks
Speaker 5: have a less than zero chance of burning the Panthers.
Speaker 5: I said one percent. May I remind everyone lesson zero
Speaker 5: for I think it's very important.
Speaker 2: No, we're really finished.
Speaker 3: That's a good points.
Speaker 1: Kept that one just just until you needed it.
Speaker 6: That from por Michael is a proud Aussie. Actually couldn't
Speaker 6: agree more regarding his point of fiasco. Fake your sitting
Speaker 6: on Newcastle. He's already won the Daily ENP Player of
Speaker 6: the Year, potentially best player in the world. The clubs
Speaker 6: need to catch up to you. It should be how
Speaker 6: long the suspension will be, not if it's a very.
Speaker 1: Good point that he's got to focus on his preseason
Speaker 1: for the Knights, whereas you've been the best player. The
Speaker 1: rest of them should be back to training tomorrow then
Speaker 1: to catch up with him.
Speaker 4: Not any reinforcements around him. I think they know that right,
Speaker 4: That's why they're making roster changes. I don't think you
Speaker 4: get suspended.
Speaker 6: That's a very good quest. Should get suspended the rules.
Speaker 6: I'm quite comfortable they stand down from footy.
Speaker 2: Though, Really, okay, what would you like to happen to him?
Speaker 3: Zero, just the stern talking to.
Speaker 2: A corner and so listen.
Speaker 4: I think it's your own I think it's.
Speaker 3: You can't go.
Speaker 2: Can you please go on back to watch for the
Speaker 2: next six.
Speaker 4: Make and like play for Australia. He's going to want
Speaker 4: to play for Australia.
Speaker 2: What should no repercussion? What should the punishment? Dave Young
Speaker 2: with you on origin?
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, that just seems like I'm treating
Speaker 1: my son at the moment we need him, we can't take.
Speaker 3: I saw that a different different story if it was
Speaker 3: a new said Welshman.
Speaker 2: Games.
Speaker 6: Why should it be okay for the NRA old A
Speaker 6: forced players to play representive football for the Australia but
Speaker 6: also okay to allow for other clubs not to release
Speaker 6: players for other representative teams.
Speaker 3: Fair question, fair question, very fair question.
Speaker 6: And that opens that Panbadora's box that we sort of
Speaker 6: alluded to with where do you draw the line? Is
Speaker 6: it because it's Australia, What about the other nations that
Speaker 6: have players pulling out?
Speaker 1: Well, they need to, They need to get international footy fixed.
Speaker 1: They dropped the ball after the twenty seventeen well up.
Speaker 1: International foota was on a high for the next couple
Speaker 1: of years they dropped the ball, COVID hit and you've
Speaker 1: lost all that momentum and it's a victim of the
Speaker 1: twenty seven round season, Origin, pre Season Challenge, World Club Challenge,
Speaker 1: everything bloody ell. So yeah, until that gets taken seriously
Speaker 1: And is it a case of do you package up
Speaker 1: your TV rights and try and sell it as a
Speaker 1: separate product and generate the cash to fund the other nations?
Speaker 2: Where does it all sit?
Speaker 1: Who's is it the NFL's responsibility to do this?
Speaker 2: It's going to be the r if.
Speaker 3: That's pretty equal, now, aren't they across the international teams?
Speaker 3: Memory getting there?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's.
Speaker 6: Parody in like I think the Championship, So those tong
Speaker 6: Australian News probably, but P ANDNG and fig and Cook
Speaker 6: Islands will be getting less.
Speaker 2: Case. Can you explain to me why Adam g is
Speaker 2: a referee in the finals. This is on the phone,
Speaker 2: that is, But there's another question code names refereeing.
Speaker 3: Friend's been all right the final.
Speaker 2: It's been good, it's been fine. Yeah, has been.
Speaker 3: Fingers crossed this weekend penalty try should have been a pedal.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming back around now. I think it should
Speaker 2: have been originally, I didn't see it was a clear
Speaker 2: cut so you can't of water. Yeah to the bait
Speaker 2: means that it should have been a penalty. Try. Good job, Mick,
Speaker 2: solid solid work on that piece.
Speaker 6: It was very well read, not well received, well read,
Speaker 6: thanks to anyone that's listening. This is another question for
Speaker 6: the next coach review on air off air, there's been
Speaker 6: revealed it quite.
Speaker 2: No one has.
Speaker 1: The people are guessing, okay, excuse there's a lot of
Speaker 1: former coaches have been a lot of misidentified and it
Speaker 1: was outstanding.
Speaker 6: An email morning from England. I agree with the anger
Speaker 6: around pont and not making himself available for the Kangaroos,
Speaker 6: but is there some hypocrisy watching three sixty and people
Speaker 6: were talking about that said in a bad precedent, but
Speaker 6: having an NRL club just refused to release Lebanese eligible
Speaker 6: players from coming over to France for a couple of
Speaker 6: test matches. Am I missing something or is it just
Speaker 6: confirmation that people in the Northern Hemisphere feel about the
Speaker 6: NRL and Australi rugby League that they only care about
Speaker 6: themselves and not the whole game.
Speaker 2: That's from the UK.
Speaker 3: Can you read that last line?
Speaker 6: What's that and Buzz telling me his opinion doesn't matter
Speaker 6: as he wants origin at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: I actually wanted origin at the end of the season too, Amik.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the email from England mate, I love that.
Speaker 6: Well, that's going to come back to that point that
Speaker 6: we raised around gramifications for pulling out of me no
Speaker 6: nations and if there's going to be any replica to
Speaker 6: what Kalin is facing.
Speaker 4: Well is agoing to England the soft season. Apparently a
Speaker 4: few Samoan players are pulling the pin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's wrong with England?
Speaker 3: We may be a good trip, a great trip.
Speaker 2: Play two tests instead of three.
Speaker 6: They shortened two tests now yeah, the last years three
Speaker 6: and they on foot called.
Speaker 4: Steve crime is getting married and all the players we're
Speaker 4: going to his wedding year that story. I have to
Speaker 4: request the dates get pushed back because Steve Crichton's wedding
Speaker 4: was on. That's what I was told, so to change
Speaker 4: the dates because all the small guys we're going on
Speaker 4: Steve Crichton's wedding.
Speaker 2: There go, he's not going the great content.
Speaker 3: He's not going because getting married.
Speaker 2: What was your favorite dish when you were in England
Speaker 2: when you'd go to those.
Speaker 3: Pubs in England.
Speaker 4: I love a steak, one of those steak and Guinness pies.
Speaker 4: They make great pies at those peas starting on peace.
Speaker 4: I don't eat peas. I don't like the side of peas.
Speaker 4: I can't have him on the plate. If I see
Speaker 4: a pee it makes me physically peed off. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: no beans, yeah, green beans, green bench is just there
Speaker 4: something about peas. I can't handle corner that mind corn
Speaker 4: strange man.
Speaker 1: I love love a Shepherd's pints and oh yeah, did
Speaker 1: you have a Guinness.
Speaker 3: I don't like Guinness, but like Guinness.
Speaker 6: Guess, prove it and stuff Guinness before Micky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he drinks. His house.
Speaker 2: Was a good house.
Speaker 1: I give a shout at a friend of mine, Warrick,
Speaker 1: who's in the UK at the moment. He was listening
Speaker 1: to the pot and I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: listened last week, but went straight at me. He's in
Speaker 1: buzzes Head because few people. Buzz was doing his best
Speaker 1: kiwis ever and can you playing? And I said, well
Speaker 1: foot roll and oh yeah yeah, well foot right foot
Speaker 1: flats I still have yeah, remember, yeah, a few people.
Speaker 3: That's a cartoon, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2: It was. It was a few people have ripped into
Speaker 2: us in the comments and.
Speaker 1: A few blokes and I've had a few notes saying, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I still have no idea you talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a kid, flats is a cartoon. Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is the Kiwi cartoon. Yes, yes, I knew that. And
Speaker 3: a game. Did you end up a game without a person?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, o my lord?
Speaker 2: What's doing anyway?
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just thought because because I got crickets
Speaker 1: from you blakes last week and I felt like I
Speaker 1: was the odd man out.
Speaker 3: Just your favorite key with rugby league player athlete.
Speaker 1: It was okay, I.
Speaker 2: Really love the one footage.
Speaker 3: Is that there?
Speaker 1: It's the start of This is the start of the show,
Speaker 1: sexual show.
Speaker 2: It got turned into a movie. This is like reading editorial.
Speaker 2: That is what I'm texting. Can you please stop asking questions?
Speaker 3: The newspaper football, Yeah, they made a TV.
Speaker 2: Show, they made a movie out of it. You would
Speaker 2: have been the worst year or whatever?
Speaker 3: I know that guy?
Speaker 2: All right, this is this has to do some copywriting for.
Speaker 3: Angle.
Speaker 2: Not since Dave Dobbin as a key.
Speaker 8: Week Dobbin, Right, we're doing anything for dinner read men.
Speaker 2: I haven't given Why are you always surprised by this question?
Speaker 3: Because I always forget to research for it.
Speaker 2: Think about it. I think you want research.
Speaker 3: You think I'm going to.
Speaker 2: All out tonight here we go.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 7: Someone helps, just do a bit of scurling of the chills.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm going to make myself a ripping
Speaker 3: my fan.
Speaker 2: To the superman.
Speaker 6: Imagine, imagine really walking to the supermarket with no idea
Speaker 6: what he's buying.
Speaker 2: You've been there for an hour.
Speaker 3: What happens? Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 3: be cool.
Speaker 1: Buzz on the flip side now, so.
Speaker 3: I'm bringing him.
Speaker 1: Last week to me, my Buzz was ringing ready for
Speaker 1: recipe information.
Speaker 4: He was making plump chicken and plum sauce. And then
Speaker 4: he's ringing. He's just making chicken and he was in
Speaker 4: the super mark. He said, sure, what do you think
Speaker 4: I should get? What sauce? He goes, what about plum sauce?
Speaker 3: There's no way people are watching a listening any.
Speaker 4: Wanted to mix it with something else. It was disturbing.
Speaker 3: Guarantee were having steak.
Speaker 2: I love steak, but there what I'm making right. We
Speaker 2: haven't sent you a bow. That's a tree much you mate?
Speaker 5: Mate, You don't have to have a big, heavy meal, right.
Speaker 5: You can have a light dinner dinner, yeah, but you
Speaker 5: can have a few of them.
Speaker 3: Letless listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Chicken means dice a bit of mushroom diced as well
Speaker 5: into the chickens. They're really fine dice mushroom.
Speaker 3: A chicken sancho about rather than beef.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the cog in at home or when I can
Speaker 5: go a pizza.
Speaker 3: H I come over for pizza pizzas of my house
Speaker 3: with everyone.
Speaker 1: Nice for the listeners, friends, addresses all. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next week for the Grand Final. And boy, get back
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 3: He's rotation probably cracks the start after this episode.
Speaker 1: Potentially, I enjoy your football flats over the weekend.
Speaker 2: We'll talk next week.