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Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, Always

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Speaker 2: Hey jis, I'm sal and I'm out.

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Speaker 3: This is Too Broke Chicks, a show that shares life

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Speaker 3: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.

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Speaker 3: And today we are joined by the fabulous Jolly Malcolm. Ah.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, so excited to have you

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Speaker 3: on because we're talking twenty twenty five fashion trends and

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Speaker 3: how to hone in your personal style and you are

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Speaker 3: a certified, qualified fashion queen.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I mean, you said it, not me.

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Speaker 2: You have to put that quote in your Instagram Bioeh

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually going to change it as soon as we leave.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm putting in. I'm going to put

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Speaker 5: two breachics on. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 3: You're a university lecturer, Yes I am.

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Speaker 4: I've been there for like oh two years now, and it's.

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Speaker 5: Just been such a crazy ride. Like I I'm not

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Speaker 5: qualified for teaching at all, Like I got like literally

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Speaker 5: at all. I got hired as industry and it's just

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Speaker 5: been the craziest learning on the job experience.

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Speaker 4: But I'm so grateful for it.

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Speaker 5: My students are the best, and they're all like at

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Speaker 5: most like six years younger than me, So it's just

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Speaker 5: so nice I think for them as well, to have

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Speaker 5: somebody they can connect to that I says what we're

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Speaker 5: talking about, like, so yeah, it's just been so surreal

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Speaker 5: but very overwhelming.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I wish I had someone as called

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Speaker 6: as you teaching me when I was in Uni.

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Speaker 3: I know too.

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Speaker 4: Thank god they're getting on it now.

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Speaker 2: And you also worked at Vogue too, right I did.

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Speaker 4: I worked at Vogue for I think a year and

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Speaker 5: That was like my first moment where I was like,

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Speaker 5: it was again the craziest thing ever. I just kind

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Speaker 5: of like my friend basically messaged me and was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: you've applied for this job, right, like you'd be perfect

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Speaker 5: for it, And I was like, I had no idea

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Speaker 5: this was running. It was twenty minutes before the applications closed,

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Speaker 5: and I had to sit in my room and like

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Speaker 5: manically like put something together.

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Speaker 4: Basically just went like, hey, it.

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Speaker 5: Was a video presentation, so hey, like I saw this

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Speaker 5: twenty minutes before it closed. Here's my social media because

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Speaker 5: I'd been making videos for myself, like not as like

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Speaker 5: contact me. They called me the next morning and I

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Speaker 5: went through all the rounds and it was so scary,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, no matter what,

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Speaker 5: this has been an amazing experience, even just to be considered.

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Speaker 4: For this and for Vogue, you know what.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like something that I never thought i'd be

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Speaker 5: so much love and respect for the people that I

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Speaker 5: got to do so many amazing things. But I was

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Speaker 5: And also they gave me full creative controls. So when

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Speaker 5: I was like, hey, if I'm going to come in

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Speaker 5: a little bit older, So I was like, I want

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Speaker 5: make this for young people and for them to just

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Speaker 5: go yep, go for we trust you was just again

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Speaker 5: the most surreal thing ever.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I had the best time there.

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Speaker 5: It was amazing and like I wouldn't be where I

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Speaker 6: is it when you have those moments and you're like,

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Speaker 2: See your life and you're like yes.

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Speaker 3: So we love to start our episodes with our guests

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Speaker 3: with a life lesson the week, So would you like

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Speaker 3: to kick us off?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Sure, I think from everything that I've learned this week,

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Speaker 5: we should be allowing ourselves to rot and not feel

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Speaker 5: bad about it. I was just saying to you guys

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Speaker 5: that yesterday my girlfriend and I totally just like rot

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Speaker 5: I mean, she worked, but like I just played video games,

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Speaker 5: and I was like, I can't let myself feel bad

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Speaker 5: myself not feel bad to sit in bed and play.

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Speaker 4: Video games all day because my body needs it.

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Speaker 5: Because I feel like, especially when we're doing something like

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Speaker 5: much in our own consistency and work ethic and all

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Speaker 5: of that, you're just pushing yourself so hard all the time.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like everybody is, but like good example,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and especially at the start of the year as well,

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Speaker 3: when all of us are like, No, now's the time

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Speaker 3: to like grind, hear all our goals blah blah. That's great,

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Speaker 3: But if your body's and mind is telling you, I

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Speaker 3: need to write, lean into it, because if you're in

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Speaker 3: half rot mode, it doesn't count. You may be working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to if you feel bad about rotting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you know love that.

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Speaker 2: What's your life lesson?

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Speaker 4: Sally Belly?

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Speaker 3: Okay, my life lesson is kind of in the fashion

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Speaker 3: and styling, but it's a bit more of an earnest one,

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Speaker 3: and it's that your arms aren't ruining your outfit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think I need to elaborate, but

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Speaker 3: that's just a reminder to everybody. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: look a certain way to wear anything that you like.

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Speaker 3: Please wear your arms out if you want to, Please

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Speaker 3: wear your legs out if you want to. What's yours?

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Speaker 4: Mine is No.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna say this one, but I actually feel

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Speaker 6: really safe. So I've actually already told all about this.

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Speaker 6: But I watched a TikTok at and I fell for

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, I'm like trying to curb my like soft

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Speaker 6: It was like pink lemonade, lemon lime, and I was like, yum.

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Speaker 2: I had one and it was so young. I loved it.

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Speaker 4: It was great.

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Speaker 6: For the next twenty four to forty eight hours, I

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Speaker 2: Entire life, like what is happening?

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Speaker 6: Like it was crazy that I was like, when does

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Speaker 6: the probiotic stop probiotic ing?

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Speaker 2: Like is it just resetting?

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Speaker 6: I bought three cans and I've been too scared to

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Speaker 2: Something at eight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm just I'm I'll check back in next week.

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Speaker 6: I'll let everyone know how that goes. Everyone's like, please

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Speaker 3: Now that we all know each other inside and out

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Speaker 3: quite literally, let's get into the episode. So, Jollie, we

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Speaker 3: want to start with a very important question. What are

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Speaker 5: Okay, I think there are two big ones that at

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Speaker 5: the first one. I'm going to explain this terribly, but

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Speaker 5: And then also I think a really good example of

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Speaker 5: I think it was where they had these like incredible

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Speaker 4: I think ever since they brought out that collection with

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Speaker 5: I think that's definitely going to be here. I also think,

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Speaker 5: and I'm really excited for this one because I wasn't

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Speaker 5: allowed to participate in this, Thank you Mum. The Boho

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Speaker 5: Swede is everywhere, yeah, which I don't know if this

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Speaker 5: everybody's wearing the Isabelle Morant sneaker wedges again. Yeah, And

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Speaker 5: I just feel like that's the start of the boho

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's definitely it.

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Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a lot of micro trends

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Speaker 5: in between, but I think everything's going to kind of

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Speaker 5: fall from those trickle down from that. I also think yellow,

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Speaker 5: but I think that it's definitely going to have its

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Speaker 5: Buddy yellow, and I think it's so like it works

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Speaker 5: with every season, it works in every outfit, wherever you

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Speaker 5: put it, it just works.

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Speaker 3: So I think that, But what do you guys, say,

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of the boho but also the

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Speaker 3: is literally my wardrobe. And what I love about that

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Speaker 3: trend not only is that it really leans into like

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Speaker 3: always like my north star with anything fashion. But you

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Speaker 5: I'm still going to wear my Gazell's every single day

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Speaker 4: I've been seeing them, Okay, I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you need to. Yeah, And I'm like, this is

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Speaker 3: Because it's kind of like the evolution of the tabby

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Speaker 3: It's associated with a few months or yeah, even weeks

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Speaker 5: is something like sagegreen. Okay, it takes sage green for

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Speaker 5: And it was around for so long. And I think

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Speaker 5: it's still around, you know what I mean, Like I'm

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Speaker 3: It's like what side of TikTok are you on? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well that immediately will be like BTV twenty four twenty five,

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Speaker 4: Oh I love them. They look you.

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Speaker 5: I see it every for I go to no They're

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Speaker 5: Like I think, like you said, when you jump into it,

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Speaker 6: So I'm curious, though, what micro trends are you unsubscribing

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Speaker 5: And yes, polo shirts like a classic and whatever, but

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Speaker 5: where it is now because this is like my most

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Speaker 5: worn piece in my wardrobe. So I think unsubscribing from

440
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Speaker 5: micro trends is the devil is devil is the thing

441
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Speaker 5: that I'm unscribing.

442
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Speaker 2: Them, Like, if you like it, wear it, Yeah, how

443
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Speaker 2: do you know?

444
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Speaker 6: Like how do you know if you like something because

445
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Speaker 6: you genuinely like it or if the marketing is marketing?

446
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Speaker 5: I think that Okay, So I literally like I teach marketing,

447
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Speaker 5: so like it's not like I feel like I'm very

448
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Speaker 5: attuned to it. But if you all of a sudden

449
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 5: see every single influencer with a Louis Vuitton never fall back,

450
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 5: that's marketing.

451
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Speaker 4: Diva, Like that's not, that's not.

452
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Speaker 3: That's not.

453
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,440
Speaker 4: Oh I think that I like and you know what,

454
00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 4: I never feels great. It's great bag.

455
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 5: But I'm saying they pushed it in marketing to make

456
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 5: you think that you really needed it because other people hadn't.

457
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Speaker 5: What I do personally is I try sit on things

458
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 5: for as long as I can, even if it's a microtrender.

459
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Speaker 5: If it's not, it takes me like two to three

460
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,439
Speaker 5: months to buy something, even if I'm like it's a

461
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 5: microtrone whatever. If I still want it that time later,

462
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 5: I go for it. But really, sitting on it really

463
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Speaker 5: helps because the marketing could be great. You could still

464
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Speaker 5: love it, you know what I mean, Like so many

465
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Speaker 5: people love their never full bags.

466
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I think just sitting.

467
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Speaker 5: On it and thinking about it is probably the best thing,

468
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 5: because again, microtrends sometimes after you sometimes.

469
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Speaker 3: I agree, I think also imagining how it will work

470
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Speaker 3: with your existing wardrobe. Yeah, so what would I actually

471
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Speaker 3: pair this with? Because I think that can help you realize,

472
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Speaker 3: oh no, this actually is in life with my astatic

473
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Speaker 3: and what I like in the silhouettes that I typically enjoy.

474
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Speaker 3: Whereas if you're like, but I'd actually have to buy

475
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Speaker 3: this top and then these shoes to make this outfit work,

476
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Speaker 3: then maybe it.

477
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Speaker 4: Isn't for you. A hundred p clearly agree.

478
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Speaker 3: What are the cool girl brands and creators that we

479
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Speaker 3: should be following and paying attention to in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I want to try stick Ozzie here, and I'm

481
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Speaker 5: gonna start off by shamelessly plugging my mum's jewelry brand,

482
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Speaker 5: So all the jury that I'm wearing is actually from

483
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 5: my mum's brand. I designed with her sometimes and we've

484
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 5: been doing it for a while, but I think my

485
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: mum has been doing markets for a really long time,

486
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 5: and now she's really trying to push into online and

487
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Speaker 5: she's like trying in best but I'm trying to help

488
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Speaker 5: her out wherever I can. But it's Kaz Mexico, Oka

489
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Speaker 5: Zed Mexico. Her name's Kadz. The Jory's made in Mexico.

490
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Speaker 5: She's very creative in terms of other like looking at

491
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 5: like clothing and stuff like that. I think there's obviously

492
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Speaker 5: the big ones, like if you have been to Melbourne,

493
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 5: you've seen Carla Laidlaw before. She does incredible from tracksuits

494
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 5: to gorgeous gowns at the most recent fashion week, Like

495
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 5: she's doing incredible things, and also one of the nicest

496
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Speaker 5: people that I've ever met, Like she's super super nice.

497
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 5: Every time I see her, she's like, oh my god,

498
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't believe you know me. And in

499
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 5: the same sort of vein Mode Mischief. It's been her

500
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 5: year for the last few years Mode Mischief Studios. But

501
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Speaker 5: I think that she's just going to continue to skyrocket.

502
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Speaker 5: She's also a very good friend of mine, one of

503
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Speaker 5: the nicest people in the whole entire world. She deserves

504
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 5: all the success that she's having. But again, you've definitely

505
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 5: seen at least one of her pieces. Hey, viblewars them

506
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 5: all the time, Like, it's amazing. Two brands that I

507
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 5: really have my eye on this year that are like

508
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 5: literally have just released their first groups of products is

509
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Speaker 5: Neve Robin Jury. I recently picked some stuff up from her.

510
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Speaker 5: It's her first collection. It's a lot of plaids and

511
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 5: mismatched and like spots and all these things, and it's

512
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Speaker 5: just like so beautiful how she puts all of these

513
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Speaker 5: things together, and it's just amazing.

514
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Speaker 4: She's coming out of Perth. I think she's just finished

515
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Speaker 4: design school.

516
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Speaker 6: Like she's amazing persons, some fucking incredible designers. Yeah, amazing

517
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Speaker 6: the amount of times I find like a small brand

518
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Speaker 6: that I'm like obsessed, they're always from Perth.

519
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, But yeah, she's amazed by Ellen with

520
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Speaker 5: Love Yeah, is also out of Perth.

521
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Speaker 4: Love her to death. Also, I got these shoes recently.

522
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Speaker 5: They're posted them on TikTok and they really like separated everyone.

523
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Speaker 4: Because we're sticking with the toe thing here.

524
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Speaker 5: Apologies, I keep bringing up feet feet actually scam me,

525
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Speaker 5: but whatever, I am.

526
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Speaker 4: I'm being really brave.

527
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Speaker 2: Guys.

528
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Speaker 5: It's this brand called Curtsy Toes and they make these

529
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Speaker 5: incredible heels that are like thongs, but for each individual it's.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, yeah, like I need a visual.

531
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Speaker 5: They're amazing and yeah, they do really really cool stuff

532
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Speaker 5: and this is the their first launch at least that

533
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Speaker 5: I can see is these shoes that I just got.

534
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Speaker 3: And they're really cool.

535
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Speaker 4: They're really cool. They're really really.

536
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Speaker 5: Cool, They're funky, and they're actually really comfy. Like I

537
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Speaker 5: think that they did it with like foot care in

538
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Speaker 5: mind or something like that. I'm not too sure in

539
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Speaker 5: terms of people that I think that we should watch.

540
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Speaker 5: There's so many people that I could say, but the

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Speaker 5: one that I have been looking at a lot, Am

542
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Speaker 5: from Love Island is really I love Okay. I mean

543
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Speaker 5: this no tin, no shade and all the respect in

544
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Speaker 5: the world, but majority of people that come out of

545
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Speaker 5: Love Island end up being fast fashioned divas and like,

546
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Speaker 5: get your bag.

547
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Speaker 4: I respect your hustle. But am like.

548
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Speaker 5: She works at So Familiar, which is one of the

549
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: coolest vintage stores in the city. She has incredible vintage taste.

550
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Speaker 5: She's working at like incredible small brands she did a

551
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Speaker 5: shoot with another brand that I love, jem Daddy Slim

552
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Speaker 5: the other day, and I just think, I'm so excited

553
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Speaker 5: to see what she does with this platform that she's got,

554
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Speaker 5: because she's just doing really sick things. So yeah, I'm

555
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: really excited to see her as well. I think we

556
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Speaker 5: should keep her our eyes on her this year.

557
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Speaker 4: I love cool girl, Yeah, who are your cool girls?

558
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Speaker 6: Like?

559
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Speaker 4: Who do you guys think you? And I'm never gonna

560
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Speaker 4: come in.

561
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Speaker 3: Also, Zee's mom, Yeah, I love.

562
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Speaker 4: Her calm and if you're watching this, I love you.

563
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Speaker 2: There's also a creator.

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Speaker 6: I think her name is Jane, I'll need to link

565
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Speaker 6: it in the description. And she's the epitome of like

566
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Speaker 6: the modern day Daisy Jones and love Stevie Nicks. Like

567
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 6: her whole thing is like she layers like flowy dresses

568
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Speaker 6: with like band teas, like boots, like it's like really

569
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Speaker 6: feminine rock.

570
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Speaker 2: And I every time I'm like what do I wear?

571
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Speaker 6: I like just go to her page and just like

572
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 6: watch her videos and she's got like the most amazing bangs.

573
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Speaker 2: I'm like, alex not, we said.

574
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Speaker 6: No bangs this year, and I'm like, but they look good,

575
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 6: and I'm like, no, but yeah, she's hot and I

576
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 6: have the biggest crush on her.

577
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Speaker 5: Fair I want to throw out two more people that

578
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Speaker 5: I think deserve their flowers really quick, because I feel

579
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Speaker 5: like nobody's really.

580
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Speaker 4: Talking about them as much.

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Speaker 5: Firstly, there's this girl who you guys need to look up,

582
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Speaker 5: Candy Bratt on Instagram and on TikTok. She again, is

583
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Speaker 5: one of my good I'm so grateful to have incredible

584
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Speaker 5: creative people around me. She's one of my really good friends,

585
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Speaker 5: and I think she deserves her flowers. She's going to

586
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Speaker 5: the shops in John Galiano, you know what I mean.

587
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Speaker 4: Like she is cool.

588
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Speaker 5: She is the epitome of like, I don't care what

589
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 5: anyone thinks and I'm just gonna wear what I want

590
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: and it's gonna look good. And I am obsessed with that.

591
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 5: And also she's a makeup girl. But I think she

592
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 5: deserves her fashion flowers. I get another one of my friends, Rowi, saying, oh, yeah, incredible.

593
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Speaker 5: If I could have one person's wardrobe, it would be Rowi's.

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Speaker 5: She is obviously so ethereally beautiful and does the most

595
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Speaker 5: amazing makeup, but her fashion taste is also able.

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like she never.

597
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Speaker 4: Misses never one.

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Speaker 5: It's so annoying because every time every time I see her,

599
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Speaker 5: I'm like, my outfits so cute, and then she shows

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Speaker 5: up and.

601
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Speaker 3: I'm like, you bitch, you were so good.

602
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Speaker 4: But yes, those are the people I think we should

603
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Speaker 4: look for. I'm obsessed with them. But you need to

604
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Speaker 4: send me these people. Yes, yeah, Atar group, please love it?

605
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Speaker 4: Every time we.

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Speaker 2: Exactly I love it. What is your number one tip?

607
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Speaker 6: Though, I'm finding your personal style, because I think this

608
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Speaker 6: is one of the hardest things to do, especially when

609
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 6: there is so much out there of being like this

610
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Speaker 6: is cool and and you're like, I don't even know

611
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Speaker 6: where I sit. So what would your recommendation be for

612
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Speaker 6: people that feel like that?

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Speaker 5: I think I my biggest thing right, And I'm going

614
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Speaker 5: to say two things here. Number one, I'm going to

615
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 5: say the thing that everybody tells you not to say,

616
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: which is go on Pinterest, go on Instagram, find.

617
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 4: Things you like, recreate them in your own way.

618
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: Don't necessarily copy someone like word for word out outfit,

619
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 5: but start taking inspiration from them. If this is like, Okay,

620
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: I'm just starying to jump off, I don't know where

621
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Speaker 5: to go, I think that's really really good way.

622
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Speaker 4: To do it.

623
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Speaker 5: Obviously, do it in a nice way and like make

624
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 5: it your own. But I think that's really good. But

625
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: also find inspiration from things that aren't fashion. So for example,

626
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: like I know one of my friends finds a lot

627
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 5: of inspiration from like flowers and like the colors in

628
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: them and the way they sit and stuff like that, and.

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Speaker 4: I think that's really cool.

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00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 5: I take a lot of inspiration from like sort of

631
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 5: like older like medieval. I'm a real nerd, so I

632
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: take a lot of inspiration from medieval areas and stuff

633
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: like that. Like my shirt has a gargoyle on it,

634
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, and I'm walking around

635
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: in my thank here and I'm walking around in my

636
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 5: wizard T shirt all the time, and like, but I'm

637
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 5: making it my own and I'm making it cool. And

638
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: I think find your interests that you love and work

639
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 5: them into what you wear. Also just try it, you

640
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 5: never know, borrow your friends stuff, see what you like

641
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 5: on yourself, and just hope for the best.

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Speaker 4: I think that so much of what.

643
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 5: I learned for fashion is trial and error and just

644
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: taking inspiration from really random places and being like that'd

645
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 5: be cool. And you know what, some of my outfits

646
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: are hideous that my archive on Instagram is huge. But yeah,

647
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: I think that would definitely be.

648
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 4: My main tip.

649
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a formula for the perfect outfit?

650
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: No, I think more than having like a formula for

651
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: a perfect outfit, I think instead it's better to focus

652
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: on safe outfits.

653
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: So what like, for example, I was quite nervous to

654
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: come on the show.

655
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 5: So I wanted to wear something that was really safe

656
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: and was really comfortable to me. So for example, this

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Speaker 5: skirt that I brought up before, I wear it all

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Speaker 5: the time. It's really easy. My shoes are very comfortable

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Speaker 5: and something that I know goes well because I've worn

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Speaker 5: it all the time.

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Speaker 4: Same with this shirt. It's just comfortable. I feel like

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Speaker 4: myself in it.

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Speaker 5: And I think rather than working out the perfect outfit,

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Speaker 5: because I think the perfect outfit doesn't necessarily exist. Our

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Speaker 5: styles are ever changing and whatever growing. But working out

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Speaker 5: what's safe for you instead, I think is way more important.

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Speaker 4: So working out.

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Speaker 5: If I wear this outfit, I'm going to feel like myself.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to feel uncomfortable. I'm going to feel

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Speaker 5: really good about myself. I feel like that's something that's

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Speaker 5: more important to focus on. Than the perfect outfit. Does

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Speaker 5: that make sense totally?

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I know what your perfect outfit is.

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Speaker 6: Ah, it's okay, okay, So it's a flip skirt with

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Speaker 6: a band tea allowed, the jacket and cowboy boots. Done.

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Speaker 4: Perfect, so comfy?

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Speaker 3: Ye, Yours would be mum jeans, also a band tea

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Speaker 3: and probably a denim jacket. Yeah, and cowboy.

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Speaker 2: Boots double dnim graphic tea per Cowboy roads. Yeah. Done.

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Speaker 3: I like that though, because I think that is a

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Speaker 3: formula in its own way, because comfort equals confidence. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And that's so much part of owning your personal style

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Speaker 3: is being comfortable in the things you're wearing and in

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Speaker 3: your own skin.

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Speaker 2: So I love that.

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Speaker 6: I think that's actually the best way to go about it.

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Speaker 6: It's been like, yeah, the perfect outfit doesn't exist, it's

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Speaker 6: the perfect way you feel, what makes you feel good,

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Speaker 6: what makes.

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Speaker 4: You feel perfect. Because that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: I think that the perfect outfit is different for everybody

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Speaker 5: appear and say, oh my perfect outfit is this. Somebody's

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Speaker 5: listening to this, It's gonna be like, shut up. So

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Speaker 5: I think instead everybody has their safe outfit, which is

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Speaker 5: their perfect outfit for them.

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Speaker 6: How do you get out of the mindset of I

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Speaker 6: just can't pull that off. How do you start testing

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Speaker 6: and trialing like what you were saying before and having

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Speaker 6: fun with new pieces that are a little bit further

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Speaker 6: from your comfort zone. How do you have confidence in

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Speaker 6: trying new things?

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Speaker 5: So I was actually talking to my girlfriend about this

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Speaker 5: the other night, and we came up with two different

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Speaker 5: answers that I think both fit hit, but I think

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Speaker 5: hers is better.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with us.

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Speaker 5: First, love you, bab, and I think that this will

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Speaker 5: make this can sound really bitchy, but then it will

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Speaker 5: make sense. Maybe you can't pull it off. Okay, So no,

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Speaker 5: but what I mean by that is, Okay, I might

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Speaker 5: see someone walking down the street, okay, wearing this incredible

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Speaker 5: chuol dress that's got these amazing colors running through it,

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Speaker 5: and I see that and I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I could never pull that off. I could never wear that.

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Speaker 5: So instead of going I'm going to buy that outfit

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Speaker 5: that's going to make me feel really uncomfortable, to take

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Speaker 5: me out of my comfort zone and I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to feel confident in myself. What aspects of that do

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Speaker 5: I like? Do I like that it's a big shape.

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Speaker 5: Do I like the colors that are in it? Do

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Speaker 5: I like that it's tool? And want to give that

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Speaker 5: a go and find something that matches with that instead

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Speaker 5: that is still going to match within your comfort zone,

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Speaker 5: because then you're going to feel confident in it. You're

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Speaker 5: going to feel like you participated, and you can sort

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Speaker 5: of work your way up to it, which brings me

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Speaker 5: to my point, which also kind of works. If you

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Speaker 5: really want to wear that big tool dress. Okay, hypothetically,

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Speaker 5: let's say it's blue and it's chuol and it's amazing,

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Speaker 5: try and find something that's blue. Okay, maybe you've never

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Speaker 5: worn something that blue before and you want to try it.

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Speaker 5: Try add that into your wardrobe first, whether it be

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Speaker 5: a headband or an eyeshadow or whatever it is, just

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Speaker 5: add that into your wardrobe first.

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Speaker 4: See how that goes.

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Speaker 5: If you start to feel comfortable with that and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 5: I'm ready to take the next step, maybe add the

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Speaker 5: pattern that's on it into your wardrobe, wear it under

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Speaker 5: a card again, start wearing it out, see how you

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Speaker 5: feel about it, and if you're enjoying that from that point,

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Speaker 5: then you can take that final Okay, I think I'm

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Speaker 5: ready to wear that dress and then push that. Don't

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Speaker 5: feel like you have to go from zero to one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Take your time with it, because again, you're gonna feel

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Speaker 5: so much more comfortable and you put it on. If

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Speaker 5: you do that and then you still get to wear that.

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Speaker 5: It might not be immediately, you might not get that

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Speaker 5: instant gratification, but you'll get there eventually, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, So that beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Well what's your biggest life lesson in terms of fashion

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Speaker 3: and style so far?

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Speaker 4: Again, it's gonna sound bit cheaper.

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Speaker 5: I mean it, with all the love in the world,

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Speaker 5: nobody cares about you that much. Now, I mean that

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Speaker 5: in the nice so possibly something that I've had to

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Speaker 5: learn as well. But if you want to wear that outfit,

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Speaker 5: if you want to start doing something different with your hair,

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Speaker 5: if you want to start acting a different way, people

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Speaker 5: might think about it for a second, but then they're

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Speaker 5: going to go on with their lives. Everybody's so caught

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Speaker 5: up in what they're doing that it's not going to

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Speaker 5: matter that much to them. And at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you don't want to like be old and

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Speaker 5: thinking I wish I had just dressed for myself to

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Speaker 5: be able to say I did everything for me and

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Speaker 5: I felt comfortable in what I was doing and I

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Speaker 5: feel like I was my best self presenting. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I would say that is in the nicest way possible.

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Speaker 5: It's not that serious and nobody cares.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hit on a show solutely. But before we

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Speaker 3: let you go, where can the cheekys find you?

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Speaker 5: Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, just Jolie Malcolm. I will be the

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Speaker 5: j O E L y.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Yay. Thank you so much for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure. This has been amazing.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, been so nice to hang out

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Speaker 5: with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to you chicks, thanks for having us in your

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Speaker 3: ear holes.

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Speaker 2: We love to be here.

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Speaker 3: And thank you to m ik Made for making today's

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Speaker 3: episode happened. Bye, Cheers,