WEBVTT - #2144 The Wisdom Within - Dr. Cam McDonald

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<v Speaker 1>O God, I term it's a bloody you project. It's Harps,

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday and the thriving drops. It's the twentieth of

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty twenty six. One of my favorite people to

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<v Speaker 1>come on the show, and that is absolutely true. We

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<v Speaker 1>get him as often as we can as Dr cam

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald up in the sunshine, Sunshine State, just bloody hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with the menana trees and the beaches and people

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<v Speaker 1>in bikinis. Is it How is it up there?

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<v Speaker 2>It's still bikini weather, that's for sure. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>a few people that are getting cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they're just sun but I am still in my

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<v Speaker 3>board shorts walking stocking in the stock You just stop,

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<v Speaker 3>you just cut out, say start from There's a few people,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a few people that are still finding it a

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<v Speaker 3>bit cold, but I am still in my board shorts

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<v Speaker 3>walking the park in the morning with no temperature control

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<v Speaker 3>at all, so it's still lovely for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an uncharacteristic This sounds like two old guys talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry anyone, but it is an uncharacteristically warm week down

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<v Speaker 1>here in Melbourne. It is mostly kind of low to

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<v Speaker 1>even higher twenties for the whole week. Which is bloody

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<v Speaker 1>obscene but also enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we want it's exactly it helps the old bones,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, my listeners may probably hear nothing, but can you

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<v Speaker 1>hear that concrete cutter in the background?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate?

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh, that's good. There's a man or two men

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who are wearing bloody high vs vests outside my

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<v Speaker 1>house right now cutting concrete and it's about an eight

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten volume in my room where I am

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So if these questions are stupid, just bear

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<v Speaker 1>with me. But well, firstly, let's catch up. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>all right? How's work? How's life? How are you? How's

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<v Speaker 1>your health?

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<v Speaker 3>A good?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I've you know what I had?

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<v Speaker 3>A Really, My CEO is probably the most gifted person

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<v Speaker 3>that I know on the planet when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>understanding the human psyche and.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Reeman Matt Reeman for you, is it just.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just natural inherence? Intuitive? Or has he studied

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<v Speaker 1>the shipload or both?

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<v Speaker 2>It's both.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's got the most capacity that I've ever met

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<v Speaker 3>of anybody to interpret a person and what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>for them on all levels. And then he has got

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<v Speaker 3>classical health training as well, so he understands all of

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<v Speaker 3>the physiology and neurochemistry that goes on.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's an.

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<v Speaker 3>Entrepreneur and does a whole lot of really really cool things.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's just got he's just he's just one of these.

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<v Speaker 2>Foods that.

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<v Speaker 3>You can follow really easily, that's for sure, because he's

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<v Speaker 3>he's just got all together.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have? You know how a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have lots of knowledge but they're not or lots of understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of intuitive awareness. They get stuff, but they perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>never learned that or read that anywhere, or they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get told that. And then there's other people who are

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<v Speaker 1>academically brilliant. They know a lot, they remember a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can use that in their work. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the kind of the the people who are socially, emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>conversationally brilliant but perhaps not necessarily academics. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>get these fucking phenoms that can do all of that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is he one of them?

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<v Speaker 2>He's that bloke? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Wow, he's that guy wow yeah, And he's he yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So I think there's all There's a doco who being

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<v Speaker 4>filmed on him right now that will be coming out

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<v Speaker 4>sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, just about all of his capacities and his

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<v Speaker 3>gifts and various things like that. And I've been firsthand

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<v Speaker 3>witnessed to it. And one of the things that he

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<v Speaker 3>played around with me, I was getting stuck in this

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<v Speaker 3>idea of lack and I've realized just talking to friends

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<v Speaker 3>that actually doesn't matter how much you've got, you can

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<v Speaker 3>still have a really powerful lack story going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I was stuck in that a little bit, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was letting it sort of spiral me down a touch.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's just very good at having these conversations of like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a higher part of your consciousness that can really

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<v Speaker 3>see the beauty in all things, and then there's also

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<v Speaker 3>a lower part of it that is going to just

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<v Speaker 3>circle around on this very you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>enough money, the physicality of things, and it all just

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<v Speaker 3>depends on where you want to see it from. And

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<v Speaker 3>so he took me through this process of you might

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<v Speaker 3>look at it like you don't have enough, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a few there's actually a number of different ways of looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At that, and it's a heads or tails thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can swear black and blue that that

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<v Speaker 3>coin is a tail, and you're can have somebody else

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<v Speaker 3>looking at that exact.

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<v Speaker 2>Same coin saying that's one hundred percent heads mate.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he gave that analogy and what he did,

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<v Speaker 3>and both of us have we're pretty open. Well, he

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<v Speaker 3>teaches it essentially, but I have a good sense of

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that we're all sort of part of the

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<v Speaker 3>one consciousness. We're all having separate experiences. That's my belief system.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't push it on any people, but it works

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<v Speaker 3>for me. And at that level he goes, may just

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<v Speaker 3>go up to that level for a second and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>see that, well, all of this is just meant to

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<v Speaker 3>happen because we're all having an experience. This isn't good

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<v Speaker 3>or bad. This is just a thing that's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the quantum realm, all of these moments are

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<v Speaker 3>happening all at once.

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<v Speaker 2>There's actually no time and space.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all just there. This is one of the moments

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<v Speaker 3>in time. Okay, great, So there's no charge to that

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<v Speaker 3>at all. And then the second layer down is where

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<v Speaker 3>in your life do you have abundance? Like if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you lost at all, what would you do? And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in a really fortunate situation when my parents live

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<v Speaker 3>in NUSA and have got a house big enough that

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<v Speaker 3>I could go and live there if everything went to shit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, said mate, So you're saying, the worst case

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<v Speaker 3>scenario is you'd be assuming each morning with your dad,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd have a room, and you'd have a house

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<v Speaker 3>being cleaned and because all of that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you've got you've got healthy kids, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>got work that you love, and like, you've got all

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<v Speaker 3>of these things that are incredible abundance. And then and

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<v Speaker 3>then the next step down is if you then were

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<v Speaker 3>to bring it down into a more three dimensional level,

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<v Speaker 3>but still higher than where you've been sitting right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a really good lesson for you to feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you have lack So why.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need that experience right now?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you go through the process of well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>teaching me resilience, it's teaching me for reality, it's teaching

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<v Speaker 3>me appreciation, teaching me that I actually don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>a desire for money. I just desire purposeful work and

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<v Speaker 3>my kids being healthy and having a great life. And

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't, if I've got enough money for that,

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<v Speaker 3>which ultimately a lot of it's free, then I've got enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was just rather than just saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the lesson in this, or you know, what can

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<v Speaker 3>you do to get out of this, he just took

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<v Speaker 3>me up to the looking at things from a head's

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<v Speaker 3>space rather than.

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<v Speaker 2>A tail space.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I had one of the most fascinating experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, what you need to do is you need

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<v Speaker 3>to sit down and you need to write down all

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<v Speaker 3>of the stories in your brain that are from a

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<v Speaker 3>tales perspective, like where things aren't enough, when you're not

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<v Speaker 3>good enough, relationships, all of that sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just need to spend a couple of hours on

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<v Speaker 3>it and just like just watch what happens. So I

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<v Speaker 3>started writing some things down and literally I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>an exercise on lack, particularly around finances, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just writing out, you know, this is a great experience

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<v Speaker 3>and it's teaching me this and I'm getting this out

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And what am I going to say when

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<v Speaker 3>people say, hey, Cam, like shouldn't you be earning more

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<v Speaker 3>money or whatever it might be, what are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to say to them to stay in the heads perspective? Literally,

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<v Speaker 3>as I am doing that and I've done that exercise

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<v Speaker 3>three or four times. Two out of the three times

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<v Speaker 3>that I've done it, I've had people contact me to

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<v Speaker 3>pay me money. And then and then I've had the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest or the biggest relatively bigger sales of my career

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<v Speaker 3>have dropped in.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly those days that I've been doing that stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was just the most powerful. However you want to

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<v Speaker 2>ascribe it, it doesn't matter. It was. It's been the

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<v Speaker 2>most spectacular shift. And I've always known.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I see things from a higher perspective, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not new. But for whatever reason, this bit of advice,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is part of Matt's gift. He just gave

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<v Speaker 3>me the right advice at the right time. And just

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as I started connecting back up with that,

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<v Speaker 3>I just started laughing, like I had all of this

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<v Speaker 3>emotion car I was like, what almost spending so much

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<v Speaker 3>bloody time just focusing on I don't have enough?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that for some people it gets seen

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<v Speaker 2>as spiritual bypassing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just say, oh, what's the benefit of this,

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<v Speaker 3>or you don't understand I've got to feed my kids

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<v Speaker 3>and blah blah ah, this bad stuff has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just and what I'm trying to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, is I'm trying to take every moment in

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<v Speaker 3>my life up to a head's perspective, just to see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens, just.

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<v Speaker 2>To run an experiment.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been absolutely fascinating so that that has just

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<v Speaker 3>dramatically improved. It's just honed my ability to understand what

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<v Speaker 3>state do I want to be in? How can I

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<v Speaker 3>get into that state? And it's interesting how just the

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<v Speaker 3>timing of my exercise when I do my little vision

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<v Speaker 3>set for the day, the work that I'm going about,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I'm reflecting on the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just done some little additional practices that have.

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<v Speaker 3>Been in the line with that, and things are just flying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just been so fascinating to get out of

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<v Speaker 3>that garbage and just you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The same event.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it as a head, sat as a tails

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been absolutely phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. So many things that fascinate me

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<v Speaker 1>about this and I talk about this and related to

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff all the time, and it's like that I

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<v Speaker 1>call sometimes I call it looking for a needle of

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<v Speaker 1>negativity and a haystack of hope. Like people have got

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<v Speaker 1>fucking ninety eight good things going on in their life,

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<v Speaker 1>and two that are maybe not awesome, and all their attention,

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<v Speaker 1>focus and energy goes on the two yes, And that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, a couple of not solutions, but strategies for

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<v Speaker 1>around that. For me, it's a kind of a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than me awareness, and it's knowing that this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the reality. This is my story about the objective reality.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my ongoing, ever present, subjective Craig experience in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of just what is right and nothing means

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<v Speaker 1>anything on Planet Craig until I give it meaning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I assign that a bad meaning, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>bad experience. If I assign it interesting, I'm interested. If

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<v Speaker 1>I think, oh, that's curious, I'm curious. If I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious, I fucking laugh. Right. If I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>tragic and sad, I'm crying. The person next to me

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<v Speaker 1>goes through the same situation or that has the same

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<v Speaker 1>stimulus but a totally different response, I'm legitimately sad. They're

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately not sad, confronted with the same objective reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think this realizing that we are constantly just

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<v Speaker 1>looking through the Kraig lens or the cam lens full

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<v Speaker 1>of our own thinking and bias and prejudice and skills

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<v Speaker 1>and all our bullshit, the good bullshit, the bad bullshit,

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<v Speaker 1>and realizing that this is in reality, this is my reality,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm creating it and where does that come from?

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<v Speaker 1>And trying to have a level of self awareness. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the beginning of consciousness, like real deep consciousness and

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<v Speaker 1>awareness is firstly recognizing your lack of consciousness, like I

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<v Speaker 1>am moving through the world and conversations and situations and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff unconsciously and unconsciously labeling shit. Oh fuck, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a catashphi and now I have a catastrophe. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to someone this morning about without mentioning stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned my parents fair bit on the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>my parents are, you know, heading towards the home straight

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<v Speaker 1>like they've Hopefully it's not, you know, I said, the

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<v Speaker 1>check and flags in sight, And this person I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking through is laughing, right, and I said, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 1>too soon, you know. But it's like they're eighty six

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<v Speaker 1>and there's lots of challenges and I hope they're around

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<v Speaker 1>for another five years or more, but it just is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And then there's you know, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>submitting my PhD in four weeks, and then I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a few friends I had, you know. Anyway, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>but lots of shit. And in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 1>none of it I can control. I can't control the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, all right, well, what can I do which

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<v Speaker 1>might be a positive influence or impact on that person,

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<v Speaker 1>which might be of help or value. Let me do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's very difficult because we're so emotionally driven, and

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<v Speaker 1>we believe our emotions and your emotions is going this

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<v Speaker 1>is a fucking catastrophe, mate, What are you bullshitting yourself?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, oh is it? And then my nervous

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<v Speaker 1>systems go, system goes, oh, of course it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>now that thing is is inhabiting us, not the other

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<v Speaker 1>way around. So that's this. When I talk to corporates,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the right word. I don't mean this offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>but dumb it down. And we talk about the external

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<v Speaker 1>world in the internal world, and I go external world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I right, situation, circumstance, environment, government, traffic lights, other people,

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<v Speaker 1>bank balanced, blab But these are these are things you

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<v Speaker 1>can't in the moment anyway. Bank balance, maybe the exception,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are things you can't control. More broadly, what

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<v Speaker 1>other people do, say be well, they like you, not

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<v Speaker 1>like you. You can move the needle a bit, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's all the shit. So that's my external world,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you know, whatever internal world is thoughts and feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and data processing and meaning giving and storytelling and realizing

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't live in an external world. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>I do life. But where I live is in that

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<v Speaker 1>internal place, and it's that internal world that drives all

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<v Speaker 1>my physiology to a large extent, one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>better or worse. And then I don't know I might

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<v Speaker 1>be If I sound arrogant listeners, I apologize, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that. Too many people really try to zoom

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<v Speaker 1>out from the in the moment me experience right now,

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<v Speaker 1>to get like a high level perspective, like to be

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<v Speaker 1>the observer of the self in the middle of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh no, this is just you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I like, I'm really good under pressure. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not know why, but if something fucking terrible happens, you

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<v Speaker 1>want me there because I'm good. But there will be

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<v Speaker 1>other things that are not catastrophic that I won't cope

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<v Speaker 1>with as well as the average person perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that trying to understand what you are opening

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<v Speaker 1>the door on. I can regulate me, I can understand

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<v Speaker 1>me better. Oh, my stories aren't the reality. My stories

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<v Speaker 1>are stories. They're interpretations of things. But the problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>or one of the problems, is my body can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between what I think and what is real.

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<v Speaker 1>So that do you know what I'm saying? So I think,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why And we've spoken about this before. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people wake up in the middle of a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>horrendous dream which is completely untrue. You know that is

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<v Speaker 1>not the reality, but your body he doesn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>For five minutes, like you wake up, heart rates up,

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<v Speaker 1>All these things are happening despite the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>is no risk, there is no drama. You are not

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, you are safe, you are okay, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to you know. That's the not always symbiotic relationship

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<v Speaker 1>of mind, you know, emotion, physiology, and trying to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>life with some level of awareness and understanding and perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>self regulation. In the middle of the ship, we can't regulate. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>steps down off soapbox. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And what there's so many things about that. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that I've noticed is that there is no

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<v Speaker 3>end to understanding yourself, like the layers that come off,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll you'll go through the same lesson three or

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<v Speaker 3>four times, but every time you go through the lesson,

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<v Speaker 3>it's with another layer of awareness, another layer of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 3>and that lack of consciousness it's not just a matter

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<v Speaker 3>of Obviously, you can increase that by deciding to be.

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<v Speaker 2>More aware and taking a more observer look at your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Then there are things that obviously, and we've spoken about

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<v Speaker 3>this previous ones as well, is the subconscious elements of

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<v Speaker 3>things and stuff that you're not even aware of even

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<v Speaker 3>and when you try and be aware, and it's and

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<v Speaker 3>that's obviously where the right mentalist can really help you. Psychotherapist,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be, whatever your flavor is. But I'd

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<v Speaker 3>have to say that a lot of the I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and holding it better because I cleared a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of subconscious stuff. And I know we spoke about that previously.

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<v Speaker 3>The things that are landing for me now, they used

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<v Speaker 3>to be things I couldn't let go of, like the negativity,

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<v Speaker 3>and now I find that I could literally just choose

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<v Speaker 3>to switch my brain and think about it in a

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<v Speaker 3>different way and immediately my state changes. Whereas and when

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<v Speaker 3>you hear Bruce Lipton talk about this is very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that ninety five percent of your world is being constructed

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<v Speaker 3>by your subconscious and so if you're not aware of

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff, then I can be giving this thing about oh,

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<v Speaker 3>just flip everything into our heads and towels.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, Okay, that doesn't work for me. That's because

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<v Speaker 2>we'll probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's some subconscious stuff that's still playing out that's

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<v Speaker 3>blocking your ability to just flip.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mindset and go that way too.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just want to put that as a disclaimer

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<v Speaker 3>because the advice that works for one person generally doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>work for the next person because their situation is so

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<v Speaker 3>different and the things that stresses.

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<v Speaker 2>Them out are so different as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, also, yeah, I love that, but we're not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to Firstly, I think everyone knows by now, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to direct people or prescribe anything for people.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's I think it's like this, it's a journey, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like here's a strategy, do this and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be the outcome. No, fuck that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even to it. You know, this is my research,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know metapception, metaaccuracy, theory of mind, metacognition, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know what we're like. Really, we only

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<v Speaker 1>know our version of us. And one of the questions

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<v Speaker 1>I ask groups is I walk in and often in

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<v Speaker 1>the first minute or two, if I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about self awareness and communication and context and culture and

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<v Speaker 1>problem solving and conflict resolution and all that communication y

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<v Speaker 1>into personal human e stuff, I say, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question. I need you to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>straight up, put up your hand if you've heard your

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<v Speaker 1>voice on audio recording, And people reluctantly put up their hands,

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<v Speaker 1>shaken the head, and I go, how many of you

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<v Speaker 1>think you sound shit? And they all go me, I

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<v Speaker 1>sound shit on And I go, well, how you sound

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<v Speaker 1>on audio is exactly how we all hear you all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, right, So you know you think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>that when it's recorded, your voice is different. It's whiny

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<v Speaker 1>and it's shitty. I go, no, that is the voice

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<v Speaker 1>that the rest of us. You don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>you sound like because none of us live in your head.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't hear what you hear. Now, even that as

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an open of the door to realizing not

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<v Speaker 1>only do you not know how people see you, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know how you sound because we're we're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>you through different modalities, you know, and that that where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, because that's a nice kind of entree into

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, what is the rest of me? Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what my voice is like for everyone, what's

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<v Speaker 1>my personality? Like, what's my energy? Like, what's my body language? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what's my actual language that you know, Craig stop

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<v Speaker 1>saying fuck, this is not the right environment, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or or where you start to try to see yourself

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<v Speaker 1>from a curiosity perspective, not a I'm insecure perspective, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the Craig experience like? And I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>speakers about this often because I coach speakers, and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>here's here's the deal. You can get up and have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the best content, and you could have rehearse

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<v Speaker 1>whor you're blue in the face and you've got I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you've basically got a forty five minute monologue,

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<v Speaker 1>which I do not recommend any potential speakers. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not recommend that. Neither do I recommend forty seven PowerPoint slides,

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<v Speaker 1>don't never use them, but don't use them like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that whole thing of like being on stage,

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<v Speaker 1>and which is if you're in experienced, obviously it's difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nerve wracking, or it can be it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But then in real time one trying to be calm,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be very aware of why you're there and

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<v Speaker 1>your messages and stories and ideas, but perhaps most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand what the audience are getting right now

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<v Speaker 1>in this moment. Because you could be a genius. You

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<v Speaker 1>could be your mate, the superstar, right who's a legit genius,

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<v Speaker 1>but he gets in front of them, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't, But you know, you could have someone of

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<v Speaker 1>that quality or intelligence or potential or aptitude, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to connect with an audience and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the Brian experience is like for the

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<v Speaker 1>group or whatever it is. And now you're all over

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<v Speaker 1>the shop. So that kind of multi layered cognitive understanding

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<v Speaker 1>and emotional and psychological and sociological understanding of the self

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<v Speaker 1>and of the others. It's like a superpower. When your

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<v Speaker 1>job is talking, yeah or sharing or educating or leading,

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<v Speaker 1>or being a mom or dad or anything that involves connection.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a superpower understanding how others think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And that's been the I keep reflecting.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a beautiful She's a forty year experienced social

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<v Speaker 3>worker with creditation and mental health and family therapy and trauma,

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<v Speaker 3>and she runs a lot of our precision behavior change content,

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<v Speaker 3>which is all about how people's biology changes the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they think, the lens that they see things through,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that they filter information, and in relationships, in

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<v Speaker 3>parenting in a health professional space. And every time I

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<v Speaker 3>listen to it, it's like, ah, like you just realize

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<v Speaker 3>how many of your biases you think are good, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the way that you're expressing things, the way that you're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking things through. I've got some really close friends that

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<v Speaker 3>I get into a deep conversation with them, like let's

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<v Speaker 3>really unpack this and get some structure and certainty around it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just detest it because they want to be

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<v Speaker 3>having fun things, being a bit more sparky and spicy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's just I think that I'm doing the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing by getting really deep. They're just thinking, oh, we

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<v Speaker 3>just have to tolerate this still cams done. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>so fascinating, and when both people are aware of both

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<v Speaker 3>people's biases, it just runs so much better. There's so

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<v Speaker 3>much more acceptance, and yes, it's just a better relationship

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<v Speaker 3>as a result.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the tenness and humility and authenticity for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Some people won't vibe with me, some people won't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you've got one hundred people listening to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've got thousands listening to this over the

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<v Speaker 1>days when it's heard, guaranteed someone thinks that's an absolute shit.

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<v Speaker 1>If not ten or twenty people, which is completely fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody else has a bit inspired, someone else's curious, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's harps, you've been here before, fucking let's go down

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And there are a bunch of people probably

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<v Speaker 1>just driving to work or doing their workout or who

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<v Speaker 1>are going, ah, yeah, this is relevant to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a human as well. So what you do is

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<v Speaker 1>you try. And I know I'm not going to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone. I know I'm not going to land with everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I do know is the stuff that we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about is universally relevant because we're all humans and

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>we all have relationships and we all have problems, and

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we all have to build trust, respect, rapport connection some stage.

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>So then you lean into that and try to make

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<v Speaker 1>it as I try to make it as unacademic, as unjargoning,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>as user friendly as possible, because the more listener slash

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>user friendly it is, the greater the potential for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to do something with that in their life and create

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<v Speaker 1>shift in a good way. Because you and I are changing, Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're not changing anyone. We're just two blokes

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about stuff. But the better that we do our job,

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<v Speaker 1>the more valu valuable it is for people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Just and it's one of those things, geez, I really

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 3>needed to hear that today, you know, like you get

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 3>people that are just I've heard this before, but it's

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>just said in a different way, and it really hit

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 3>me where I need to like means do the same.

0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Thing to me as well. You know, you just go,

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 2>you know that really makes sense today. Whereas for other

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 2>people exactly as you're saying, it's yep, I've heard it.

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Nice confirmation, but I'm flicking off right now. Not a problem. Yeah,

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is seems like a red herring. But if you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard this story, stop me. But I was taught.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to what is her name? Her surname

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>is Zoftness, which is the weirdest name ever, respect z

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>O F F N doubles. It might be Rachel anyway,

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>google that if you want everyone. She she's written this

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>book which is Phenomenon. I'm listening to it. And she

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was on another podcast that slips my mind. But she's

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:43.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about she's a researcher. She was talking about, you know,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the relationship between you know, mind, brain, nervous system, all

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of attached and emotion and behavior and physiology and

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff that you love and I love. And

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>she's talking about a guy who was working on a

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>building site and he was up on a truck unloading

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>shit and he jumped down off the truck and he

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>landed on a piece of wood that had a seven

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:12.080
<v Speaker 1>inch nail sticking straight up. Have you heard this story? No,

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>So he jumps on this piece of wood. The nail

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 1>goes through his foot and boot and he he doesn't

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 1>even know, and then he looks down and sees it

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and is in immediate agony and like screaming. So workmates

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>come listen as if you've heard this, I apologize half

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of you have. Half you haven't. People come running and

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh my god. So they don't know what

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to do. Obviously can't get the boot off because it's

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>got this fucking nail through the boot and the foot

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and up through the soul, up through the leather. Whole

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>shooting match. The paramedics come or whatever this was in

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the States, so whatever they're called over there, and those

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>paramedics and he actually it might have been in straight

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Stories are same. They come and they give

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>him the whatever it is they give him in that place,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>could have been the green whistle or the equivalent, like

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the most painkiller you can have inhale it and most

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>people get somewhere between pretty good relief and a lot

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of relief. He got none. He was still off the

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>chart in pain. Took him. The hospital got him in there,

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>medicated him up. They were waiting for the doctor to arrive,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>which took I don't know, another five or ten minutes.

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>In that time, he was just in a cute, screaming pain.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>The doctor comes in, they've got this whole shit. They're

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>going to cut the boot off and then just deal

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>with whatever. They cut the boot off and he looks.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>The doctor looks and he goes, he didn't say this,

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>but this is what he said. He goes, bro It

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't touch her foot. It went through his big toe

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and his second toe. I'm demonstrating for cam with my

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>fingers here. Everyone sorry about the lack of visual but

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it went between his big toe and his second toe.

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>It went through the up, through the top of the

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>boot and did not touch his foot. He had no

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>physical injury whatsoever. But the story in his brain was,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, and all the other bits that flow on,

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I've just done myself a fucking life changing injury or whatever.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And also another thing that she spoke about is how

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy is that? Right? And another thing she spoke about

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Rachel her name is Rachel's oftness. She spoke about how firstly,

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>there was no pain until he looked down. That's a

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>bit of a giveaway, right, And then all of a sudden,

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>his mates turn up and they all look like they

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>all go white as a ghost. So he's got ten

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>blokes around him, all looking fucking horrified. Then that's confirmation,

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, I am fucked. And then so there was

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>all of these confounding and compounding variables that added up

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>to I've got a nail in my foot. I've got

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a seven inch nail through my foot and then obviously

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>they cut it off when mate, you don't have any

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>injury whatsoever and almost immediate you know, relief. And I'm

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like that what we think and what we believe is

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>so fucking profound. We don't even begin I don't think,

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>this is my opinion everyone. I don't think we begin

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to understand the potential of our brain, our mind, our thoughts,

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>our beliefs, and the subsequent impact on the body behavior,

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, for good or bad. It's like, isn't that

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>shit fascinating?

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely fascinating.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I just think about the blake when he goes back

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>to the work site.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You definitely just put a bandage on it for a

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>couple of.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Weeks around on hobble around till Christmas.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Definitely takes some sick leave.

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as your foot mate, Oh, I'm all right, old

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>soldier on that's tried. And didn't think of about that?

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>The fucking the humility or the embarrassment and the shame

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you spoke about something before I want to ask you

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>about and that was sorry, what's your friend's name the

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>smarty pants Matte Matt Matt, Yeah, so Matt, like you

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>spoke about capacity. So there's another concept in psychle called

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the performance capacity gap. Have we spoken about that?

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>So performance capacity gap essentially speaks to what you're currently doing.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>It could be at the gym, it could be in

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>your business, or it could be anything, right, relating to

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>anything that's perhaps measurable or somewhat performance based, you know,

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is the difference between what you're doing and also what

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>you think about what you're doing and capacity what you're

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>actually capable of. And with the idea being that a

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think that they're performance is pretty close

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to their capacity, right, and it ain't. It's like not

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>they think my capacity is ten, I'm currently at eight. Yeah,

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And then you go, bro, this is good and bad news.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>The good news is you've got way more ability than

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you think, and the bad news is you're currently sitting

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>at a three telling yourself an eight story.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that shows up all the time, right, we don't

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>understand us.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting as well, because there is.

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 3>When people are asked that question and they're looking they're

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 3>looking to validate it's I guess it links into the

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 3>idea because we just ran some stuff on imposter syndrome

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 3>and how that turns up for people differently as well.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>And I guess are these two ideas related where you

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 3>just don't think, you can't conceive of yourself being better

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 3>because you're not aware of it.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>You have an experience that you don't know.

0:32:55.240 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 3>What you don't know, and that is because what's interesting

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 3>is people are saying, I'm actually doing really well against

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 3>my capacity, but the imposter syndrome stuff says that I

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>don't think I'm good enough, you know, like whatever I'm

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 3>doing is not enough.

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>And so we live in this.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Really crazy world where we don't think we could do

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>better and we're going okay, but.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Actually there's a lot more we are truly not acting

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>up to where we can.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>It's the brain and how it gets influenced by our

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 3>current social environment is absolutely mind boggling. Like there is

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 3>there's really no there's no structures in our world, and

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>it's because of this work that I'm doing with schools,

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 3>the work that I'm doing at workplaces. There's very few

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 3>structures anywhere and definitely not implemented in an organized way

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 3>of saying how can I help you develop to be

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 3>the ultimate person that you are? Like, there's really no

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>language that we have for that, or no systems that

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 3>we have for that.

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>It's truly this is the job of school and you've

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>got to get it done.

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>We actually don't care if you do better or you're

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 3>somewhere in the middle.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>You just need to get these marks.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, we've mentioned some curriculum around general capabilities, and

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 3>we want you to be a good person and identify

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 3>yourself or whatever it might be, but it's never Hey,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 3>we want you to realize your potential, and we're going

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 3>to put resources around you.

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>So that you can discover who you are. We're going

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>to get you to.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Discard things that aren't related to who you are, and

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 3>we're just going to get.

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>You to stay on that path.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Everything is around how can I meet the mark of

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 3>the average? How can I meet the you know, the

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 3>criteria that make me mean that I fulfilled this job

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>even though if it's not in my strength whatever.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>It might be there is.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 3>It's an entirely different world when you're thinking, what would

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I do if I was going to live my best

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 3>life in my best way, in my best strengths you

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 3>would go about life in such a different way. But

0:34:58.080 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 3>we don't have a language for that, or at least

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 3>we don't have an organized language in our society.

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know really of any any population around

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the world.

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's pockets that actually have something that relates

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 3>to that. It's really really interesting, and it is constantly

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 3>capping even our awareness of how great we can be.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think that you go, sorry, did? I also

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>think with that one of the barriers for some people

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>is they're like, Hey, Craig, I want to be a

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>fucking high performer. I don't want to be an Olympian.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to join the Space program. I don't

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>want a PhD. I don't want to be a billionaire.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be an entrepreneur. And I would say,

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>good that being a high performer has not necessarily anything

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to do with that shit. Being a high performer or

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>exploring your potential. It might be your potential to reduce anxiety.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You might live in a constant state of you know,

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two to nine anxiety, and what we're trying to do,

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like your goal, your Mount Everest might be I want

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to live a lot of my life somewhere near a

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:13.399
<v Speaker 1>state of calm, the absence, like when I do goal

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>setting with people, which is not, like not formal. I

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 1>used to do a bit of that, like formally, but

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>now more what do you want, what don't you want,

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>what's working in your life, what's not? What gives you anxiety,

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>what makes you happy? Blah blah blah. When we dig

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>through all the shit that people say they want and

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>then we get down to what's really the driver for

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that goal, Quite often the driver is I just want

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>my inner world to be calm. I just don't want

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to be anxious. I don't want to be a chronic overthinker.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be I'm like, they're great goals.

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Fuck making a million dollars, fuck having six percent body fat.

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You know they're not bad. Cool, But show me one

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>person who who achieves something in their external world and

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>then they're permanently content, like that person doesn't exist, or

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>they've got a perpetual state of internal nirvana and calm

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and equanimity, and it's like, oh, no, I'm at six

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>percent body fat, I'm the happiest, But no, no, In fact,

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>it's often the opposite. So I think This also comes

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>down to this is weird, but you'll dig it, I think,

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>is the difference between the idea or the perceived situation

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 1>of success versus the experience of success, Like, Oh, look

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>at her, she's done this, done, that, lives there, drives

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that has achieved this, which are all good things and

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>well done and a big tick for you. Therefore she's successful. Well, yes,

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>if we base our criteria for success on acquiring stuff

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and doing stuff and achieving stuff and ticking boxes. In

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>other words, all the stuff that's visible to everyone, right,

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>all that external look at what I've done and have

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>an own and earn and look like and where and whatever,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>versus all the shit that people can't see success. There

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>was a stage where I had five different businesses, bricks

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and mortar businesses, and it wasn't good or bad. It

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>was just my life. And I had over one hundred

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>employees at the same time, and there were all these

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>moving parts and from the outside looking in successful all

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>businesses make and do all good. And I'm not saying

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>one caused the other, but the concurrent reality for me

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>was overthinking, not sleeping, anxious, worry, like all of this

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff that didn't reflect the external, And then you get

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to that point and you go, well, I've done all

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>this shit. Why am I miserable? Why am I sad?

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And you go, well, maybe an external or a physical

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 1>thing won't resolve an internal or non physical thing. And

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>then it kind of recalibrates you, or at least prompts

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you to think, oh, forget what everyone tells me or

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>what the definition of it is on bloody Instagram or wherever.

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>What actually is success for me? Is it about stuff

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>or is it about non stuff?

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is what I love.

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 2>This is the because I do a lot of a

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of courses.

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I create courses for various types of people, and it's

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 3>really interesting talking about the concepts of purpose, natural strengths, happiness, flow,

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>love and all of these things that and it's interesting,

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Like the skeptical person says that I don't want to

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 3>be a high performer, you would ask them the same

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 3>question of do you want to have relationships that make

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 3>you feel great where you're not in contest.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 2>And where it's just flowing and you're supported. Do you

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>want to feel like you've got more energy throughout the day.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to feel like at the end of.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 3>The day, you feel really satisfied with the way that

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 3>you showed up. Do you want to feel like you're

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>closer to your kids and you're having a really positive

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:06.919
<v Speaker 3>influence on them, et cetera, et cetera.

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And everyone says yes, yes, yes, yes. Across the board.

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 3>A lot of high performing people don't achieve any of

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 3>those things, but they just have a really great one

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:19.919
<v Speaker 3>hundred meters sprint for example. The where I was going

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 3>with that, the physiology of love is it's dopamine and serotonin,

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>and these are focus and reward, and then some endorphins

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>as well, and then also generally a better heart rate variability,

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 3>so calmer, less cortisol, and then oxytocin. And then if

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 3>you look at purpose, it's dopamine and serotonin and some endorphins,

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:54.439
<v Speaker 3>and then it's lower cortisol and lower stress, better heart

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.439
<v Speaker 3>rate variability, and maybe some more adrenaline because that's keeping

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 3>your focused on purpose, and then you have happiness or flow.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Let's say we talk about flow.

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>Flow is dope mean nora, adrenaline, a bit of serotonin,

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>some endorphins, It is a lower cortisol.

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>It's exactly the same map.

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 3>But then they measure anandamide as well, which is this

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 3>nice little reward chemical that does good things for your brain.

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>And then you go into into your natural strengths.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 3>And when you're in your natural strengths, you're more motivated,

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 3>so you've got more dope mean and more nor adrenaline.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 2>You feel more awarded, so you've got more serotonin and more.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Endorphins, and it's costing you less strained to actually be

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in your natural strengths, and so your cortisol is lower.

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 3>And so all of these different states that we are

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 3>all aiming for actually have precisely the same physiology plus

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 3>or minus a sort of an indicative chemical like oxytocin.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>For love and nor agrenaline for focus, whatever it might be,

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and it it just makes the whole picture, makes so.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 3>And what it means is if you can be in

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>a state that is resonant with you, and that is,

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 3>I feel purposeful, if you feel like you can be

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>yourself in relationships, if you feel like you're working in

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 3>your natural strengths and doing things with talent and capacity,

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 3>if you feel like you're naturally enjoying your life. What

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 3>it means is the environment is reflecting back to you

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 3>that this is an environment for your body because once

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 3>you get to that state, if we look at health

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 3>and disease, it's all of the opposite of the things

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that I just mentioned.

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:38.240
<v Speaker 2>It's untethered stress.

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 3>With a high with a hot with poor high cortisol

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 3>and poor heart rate variability.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 2>And less serotonin and less endorphins, but maybe lots of

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 2>nora adrenaline and stress chemicals. So it's the idea of

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>success and happiness internally physiologically is essentially how can I

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>be more of meat? How can I be doing the

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>things that really align and make me feel good? And

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>there's sometimes a selfish period that you need to take

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 2>to actually renavigate back towards that. Because we often spend

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 2>so much of.

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Our life following somebody else's purpose, putting up with relationships,

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 3>or not truly in connecting with relationships that allow us

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 3>to feel that deeper sense of connection, we are not

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 3>really ever encouraged to find flow. We're just encouraged to

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 3>get it done, rather than what can we do to

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 3>change this environment to help you get these outcomes in

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 3>the best way possible.

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>So I just I find.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>That conversation really really interesting because we have a set

0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 3>physiology that indicates this is the right environment for you,

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 3>and you're working in your strengths and it's going to

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 3>feel great and less stress and more rewarding, and it's

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 3>doing all the normal stuff and it's completely influenced by

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 3>your mindset.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>The nutrients that you eat, the movement that you do.

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 3>When you do all of that stuff, the work that

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 3>you're doing, and how purpose all that feels.

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 2>It's it and this is what people are chasing. Like

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>if you say, hey, do you want.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 3>To feel happy in all of these things? One hundred

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 3>percent people say, yes, I want to feel that. And

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a and you've essentially you've got to get to

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 3>a point where the environment allows you to feel that

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 3>way because your body is continually responding to that environment.

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>So interesting and yeah, I mean your body will tell

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you if you're happy or sad, anxious or not. Like

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.759
<v Speaker 1>your body's like, nah, you're anxious. You know why because

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>all this shit's happening. Yeah you know that, Like it's.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 2>So just.

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You might even want to listen to this lady. So

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>her name is Rachel's Softness. I don't this is how

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know that I love you listeners, because I'm actually

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>going to point you towards another podcast, which I think

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>is fucking brilliant. This episode there's a little bit of

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>waffle at the front, like there often is on The

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>You Project. But it's on a show called The Armchair

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Expert and it went up April fifteen, and she's just

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>written Rachel has written a new book called Tell Me

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Where It Hurts, The New Science of Pain and How

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to Heal. But she goes far and wide. She told

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that nail story. But she also talks about, like, you know,

0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 1>when people think about obviously the general public and the

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 1>general messaging from the health and wellness and medical spaces.

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, eat better and move your body and sleep

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 1>well and minimize stress, and all of these things are important,

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>of course, and they really matter, and they definitely move

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.959
<v Speaker 1>the needle, and now all the other things. Don't drink

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>too much booze, maybe, don't ever have a cigarette. You know,

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 1>don't need anything bigger than your head in one sitting.

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, all the fundamentals. But she talks about what

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you were talking about in terms of oxytocin and relationships

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 1>and love and like what a massive impact something like

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>being lonely, like legit lonely, It fucks up your body.

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>You know it is not it is you know, It's

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like I would rather have a six out of ten

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>diet and ten out of ten social life or not

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>social life but social connections. I'm not really a big

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>social life person, but like I'm I'm insecure as fuck.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I need people to love me. I need to be loved.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean worshiped, I don't mean idolized, but I

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, and there's a you know when you like

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 1>for me, there's an because I'm the only kid like

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a wife, I don't have nieces and nephews.

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have obviously brothers and sisters. I don't have kids,

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and part of me is like, oh, not a Mary

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>eighty six and the check and flags not too far away,

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's hope it's fun. But all that shit

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>where I go, Oh, and even though I understand this

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff relatively well theoretically and academically and from a research perspective,

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>then you go, even though I know all this shit,

0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I still need a fucking hug. I still need Cam

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>to like me, or I want Cam to like me.

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to when I see Cam, I want to hug.

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to. I don't need twenty hugs a day,

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>but like the moments where I've found felt really genuinely

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>alone and lonely, that's just doing terrible my body. Anyway,

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe some people cope better. I'm like, ah, this is

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>this is no good. Yeah, sure I eat well and

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>train and so sure I'd tick all the other boxes,

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's such it has such an impact on us,

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and especially because and I'm generalizing here, so not all men,

0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.919
<v Speaker 1>but I think probably more men than women because women

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>are women are maybe more socially and emotionally evolved. Who knows,

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>there's another podcast. But you know, like my best mate Vinn,

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 1>every time I talk to him, at the end, he goes,

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:15.879
<v Speaker 1>love you mate, and I go, love you mate, and

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>there's no because I love him. I just say, you know,

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm reminding you you're loved and he does the same,

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's not love ya, it's like love you mate,

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's like me too. And whenever I need anything,

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>when the shit hits the fan, like I only need

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to go mate, can you help me with this? He

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 1>goes course, And it's just like when I moved Mum

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and Dad recently from their big old unnecessarily huge house

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>into an independent living place in a kind of an

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>old people's village, which is gorgeous. Like he just showed

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 1>up for three days and work like a fucking weapon.

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Like no, didn't want any gratitude, didn't want any thanks,

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't want any acknowledgement, and then did that and then

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.919
<v Speaker 1>went see you, mate. I went to see you. That's it,

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you know for me, because we've all got our love

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>language whatever. Like for me, that's like, oh yeah, and

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I would do the same for him, Like there's no

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 1>where you go. Oh you know, this human loves me.

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's and I'm waffling a little bit, but it's

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:25.760
<v Speaker 1>so important that you have that deep human connection because

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>without that, I think, where as a very social species,

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>we're a bit fuked.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And this is one of the most interesting things

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 3>about what people need in that connection as well. And

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 3>this is where I get really interested in the differences

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 3>in eurochemistry. And I know that Tiff and Kyle previously

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 3>have picked you as a connector or whatever it might

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 3>be in our model of health types, but that what

0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 3>we see with the connective body is that they are

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:59.800
<v Speaker 3>much more oxytocin dependent and oxytocin is the sense of connection.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I can look at your face and I can.

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 3>Feel like I belong And without that oxytocin, when it

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 3>gets released, it vasodilates opens up your blood vessels, It

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 3>reduces cortisol.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>It actually creates like a bit of a glow up,

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.240
<v Speaker 2>but also a destress for you. And it's the sense

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of belonging.

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.200
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the quality time or the access service,

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 3>whatever it might be. And then another individual and that

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I guess this is more aligned with my brain. I

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.439
<v Speaker 3>don't need as much of the contact. I just need

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 3>people to go geez. I love the way you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I really value your thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And it's the respect.

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<v Speaker 3>For my thinking that I'm really searching for in people,

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas another person will be completely selfless and they'll just

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<v Speaker 3>be looking after people all of the time by themselves,

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 3>like you know, just really just living for everybody else's goals,

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<v Speaker 3>and what truly lands for them is a low maintenance

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:01.399
<v Speaker 3>friend doesn't ask anything of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not about I need to love your thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I can sit here and we support each other, but

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing that needs to be said in order for

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 3>that to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to put some energy back into you because

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life you're giving it away to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else. It's low maintenance friends. And when you talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them and say, hey, you need some low.

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Maintenance people, and you're like, they're oh my god, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so right, well that's one of my best friends. We

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<v Speaker 3>just sit and we virtually just do whatever we want

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<v Speaker 3>to do. But no, we don't require anything of each other.

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<v Speaker 3>So even that sense of deep connection is so different.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad, he's a connector, so he has the deep

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<v Speaker 3>connection of my mum and the family that live up

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 3>up that way with them, but then he also needs

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<v Speaker 3>all of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun of walking around meeting all the people with dogs.

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>He's got a bunch of friends called the rock Lobsters that.

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<v Speaker 3>All they hang out on the rock wall because they

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 3>all go swimming in the morning. They're all sixty plus

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 3>to get a ticket to the rock wall. So he's

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.759
<v Speaker 3>got all his rock lobs to friends. And he's like

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<v Speaker 3>sort of the man about town, like's not he's a dentist,

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.840
<v Speaker 3>so he's treating the cafe janitor that he goes to

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.399
<v Speaker 3>because he just can't help himself, like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just in people's business. So he needs that. But

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<v Speaker 2>my mum just has the connection with dad. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>she needs.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's a censor, totally totally different neurochemical makeup. She

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 3>just doesn't need other people. And she doesn't go out

0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 3>wandering around and she's got maybe one or two friends

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 3>she might have a catch up with and that's her.

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 2>That's her film. So just even.

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 3>This idea of deep connection and what it is, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>just the best way to market is when you think

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 3>about your friend where you just feel like you can

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 3>completely relax. What do they give you? You know, and

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.759
<v Speaker 3>that as a starting point is a really helpful thing

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<v Speaker 3>to say. What is the kind of connection that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>actually looking for is that the people that really love

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<v Speaker 3>the way that I think is the people that are

0:52:57.680 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 3>just there for me.

0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 2>It's the people that I can rely on it of course,

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever it might be, but as.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 3>A starting point, just knowing that one friend that really

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 3>has your back, or those two friends that when you

0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 3>hang out with them, it's just a full wave of relief.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:14.439
<v Speaker 3>That's the starting point for you know, what truly makes

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 3>you feel connected.

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a good place to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a and I mean this speaks to your

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like your model at pH three sixty and like it's

0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>all about beginning to understand how you work and being

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>okay with that even if you know, sometimes I think

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm an alpha male and I always go but I'm

0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>not and I'm not really. But in certain situations, like

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I said to you, I think earlier and en if

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>we're off here on here, but if there's shit happening,

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>you want me because I'm very calm in that and

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a good leader when I need to be. But

0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I have no compulsion to go and lead, like I

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.839
<v Speaker 1>don't want to sert myself into something. But if things

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>are going bad, I'm quite good in that situation. But

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 1>being able to recognize how you are and then do

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 1>something with that without judgment or self loathing, but just

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 1>self awareness and recognition. It's like this is part of

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the you know, how do I optimize me? I need

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to understand me first, you know, I need to be

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like and I was thinking as you were talking this

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.280
<v Speaker 1>how my brain works, because I'm you know, I respond

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to that a couple of things, one ironically and almost

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>ad juxtaposition. I don't like being around people all the time,

0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:50.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I need lots of time by myself.

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I live by myself, but I don't want to have

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>no interaction day to day, Like I need a little

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>bit and it needs to be quality, be me giving

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to someone, not me getting. Like most of the time

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it's me giving in that I'm usually sitting with someone

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>who's got some challenges. Like probably five coffees I have,

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 1>four out of three or four out of five coffees

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I have is me helping someone and one or two

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.799
<v Speaker 1>is maybe with a friend, right, and it's just an

0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>hour of bullshit and caffeine. But then the opportunity like

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.919
<v Speaker 1>and I feel this sounds quite magnanimous, but it's kind

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 1>of not. Is like when I know that I can

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>talk up a walk up to somebody who maybe I

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>think is doing it hard a little bit or just

0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.279
<v Speaker 1>and just go go to mate and I go how

0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 1>are you? And they like are you good? I go, yeah,

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>but how are you? And then they go well actually,

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and I go what's going on? And they'll unpack a bit.

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I go, fuck, that's hard, that's hard, and how are

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you going with all of that? Like how are you sleeping?

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Or you go, man, I get it, that is that

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is tough. So how do you fix that or how

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:04.399
<v Speaker 1>do you manage? You know, and I just might talk

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to them for five minutes and give them some love

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and some attention and for five minutes they're the focus

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>of my world. And not always, but I'm pretty sure

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 1>most time I walk away, most times I walk away,

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that's given them a boost. Yeah, that, you know. And

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it's like, could be a guy, could be a girl,

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>old young, Try not to be speak inappropriately or out

0:56:28.160 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of you know. I try to read the room. But

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, now you've got Oh, you've got to go,

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's time, it's two o'clock. Well maybe it's been gorgeous always.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I love chatting with you. Tell people where to find you,

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>follow you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks mate, it's been awesome. The doctor km McDonald

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<v Speaker 2>just searched.

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<v Speaker 3>That with Shay Group, SAHAE Group, and that'll get your

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 3>corporate staff health professional stuff, school stuff.

0:56:59.640 --> 0:57:00.840
<v Speaker 2>We're doing a whole lot of work.

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.800
<v Speaker 3>In precision health and helping people understand themselves and essentially

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 3>trying to build the structures that we're lacking in the

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.360
<v Speaker 3>world right now. So it's all of this work is

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 3>exactly the stuff that we're doing on one level, and

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.040
<v Speaker 3>then there's a whole physical level as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So always appreciate you mate, You're a gift and we'll

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 1>have a quick ten second goodbye off fair but for

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<v Speaker 1>the minute doctor Cam appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, see you mate,