WEBVTT - Sharri | 8 July 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.279 Long shower. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.680 Good evening while Alice Springs will again be subject to 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.520 a curfew after an outbreak of shocking violence on the weekend. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.200 First a police officer was run over outside a bottle shop, 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.000 and then last night, four off duty coppers, including three women, 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.440 were allegedly set upon and robbed by a group of 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.320 twenty young men in the morning. The officers were crossing 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.520 the Todd River to go back to their hotel in 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.200 the early hours of the morning when the men allegedly 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.839 approached them from behind and assaulted them, including punching one 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.559 of the women officers in the face and kicking her 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.559 multiple times. Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy invoked recently 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.519 introduced rules for a snap seventy two hour curfew between 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.800 ten pm and six am. The only people allowed to 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.200 move within the restricted zone will be those fleeing domestic violence, 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.240 visiting family, caring for someone, visiting a fast food restaurant 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.760 of all places, or go to work. The commissioner says 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.360 if things don't calm down, he'll extend the. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.160 Curfew if there's a continuation of harmful conduct, which I 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.679 hope there is not. If we apply some measures now 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.640 to in addict and use the community to help us. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.000 We should say a turnaround. But if that continues and 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.240 there's some behaviors that still concern me, we can apply 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.160 for a I can apply for a seventy two hour 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.920 a different area, or go to the minister for another 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:24.920 seven days. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.720 And the Alice might be back in the headlines today 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.720 for all the wrong reasons. But the reality is that 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.920 this has been bubbling away for ages for years and 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.360 not much has been. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:36.920 Done about it. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.199 When violence and danger in Alice Springs reached ahead last year, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.600 Sky News, i have to say, was one of the 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.120 only media outlets to give it the coverage and exposure 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.600 it deserved. And these stories have been playing out every 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.200 day since then, but we don't hear a great deal 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.920 about them until something really goes wrong, like these cops 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.320 allegedly being bashed. Now, for a government that was so 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.400 publicly concerned about indigenous affairs that it proposed the Voice 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:09.359 to Parliament, the Albanese regime has remained strangely quiet about 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.480 all of this. Now, don't forget that last year the 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.560 Prime Minister flew into Alice Springs for all of four 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.760 hours as crime was worsening and then took off to 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.240 Melbourne to sink beers and eat ice cream at the 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.440 Australian Open Albaneze did visit Alice Springs a few months ago, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.799 and he did meet with local activist Darren Clark, who 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.600 was on with Andrew Bold before and who has been 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.000 vocal about the lack of inaction by authorities to stop 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.639 the crime and dysfunction. But what's changed natural, I mean, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.880 given the PM is so worried about Indigenous issues, surely 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.600 he should have taken one look at Alice Springs and 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.079 flown out of there determined to clean the joint up, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.720 come hell or high water for the safety of not 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.960 only all residents, but particularly Indigenous children who find themselves 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.600 in the grips of youth crime due to neglect and 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:04.519 dysfunctional family love. As sorry, Senator justinto Nampagin for price 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.880 correctly noted today. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.440 A curfew is one thing, but you. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.720 Have to actually do something about the causes of this violence. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.799 Well, I'm sure the town will welcome another curfew. There 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.079 are underlying issues taking place that we all know about 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.440 the lives of these children need to be looked at 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.360 much closer. And I've said this for years that Indigenous 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.600 children in my certainly around in my community and throughout 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.040 the Northern Territory, experience the highest rates of domestic and 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:43.000 family violence, child sexual abuse. And it's no wonder that 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:48.760 we have circumstances. These children come from utter dysfunction where 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:54.920 we're seeing again another rise in violent crime in the community. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.160 It's all good and well to keep slapping a band 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.440 aid on the wound, and that's essentially what this curfew is. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.960 But you change nothing without taking serious action, and the 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.280 Albanzi government has been lacking when it comes to serious action. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.160 The Independent Yeparinia School in Alice Springs wanted to build 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.760 a satellite campus at Burt Creek, which is sixty kilometers 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.279 north of Alice, so kids in remote communities could go 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.520 to school without having to travel into town. It was 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.119 hoping for about a million dollars from a forty million 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.680 dollar fund the federal government had put up for these 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.919 sorts of projects. Instead had got three hundred and twenty 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.480 nine thousand. Meanwhile, Albanzi spent four hundred and fifty million 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.240 dollars on a voice to Parliament referendum that failed and 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:41.960 did nothing for Indigenous people. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.679 I mean, imagine what could have been. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.960 Done to improve the lives of kids in Alice Springs 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.359 and elsewhere with that money, but instead it was blown 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.080 on a political vanity project. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.720 Indigenous affairs policy has gone on like this for decades. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.520 It's why we talk about Australia Day and treaties and 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.320 all this stuff instead of employment and domestic violence rates 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:07.839 in Aboriginal communities. The former is easy and touch you fairly, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.159 and it makes you feel nice we're doing the right thing. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.760 The latter, of course, is uncomfortable, and it raises hard 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:18.400 questions and potentially hard truths at Acknowledging any of that 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.919 means actually doing some work, which is of course the 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.320 hard bit. But that's the stuff that really affects people's lives. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.800 A curfew might quell violence for a few nights, but 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.359 it won't stop it. Soon enough, it'll be back to 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.279 the way it was, and the people of Alice Springs, 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.039 especially poor Indigenous kids, will be stuck on the same 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.599 hamster wheel as they have been for years. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:49.880 But will anyone care. Probably not now. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.640 Anyone who knows anything about off roading or who's spent 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.240 any time in the bush will know the popularity of 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.520 the seventy series Land cruiser. It took pretty much the 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.800 same since the nineteen eighth these apart from a few facelifts, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.440 and it's certainly not the fastest car in the world, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.800 but it is practical and reliable. It's been a somewhat 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.280 ubiquitous part of country Australian life for decades. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.720 I love a sunburnt country, a lamb of sweeping planes, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.120 of dragon. 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:24.039 Mountain regions, drugs and flooding raiders. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.240 I love her father raisins. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.400 I love her jewel seed, her beauty. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.160 And her terror. 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:42.040 Wired brown land For me, Lamb cruisers. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.000 How Good's laws. He is voiced by the way, but 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.159 farmers love them. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.760 And the troop carrier model has been something of a 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.760 cult following in the camping and off road community. There's 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.440 a seventy series owners group on Facebook with one hundred 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.000 and nine thousand members. But Toyota announced today that it 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.760 was killing its V eight turbo diesel engine, which makes 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.839 up the vast majority of sales. Because, of course, someone 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.680 wanting that sort of car is looking for something with 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.480 grunt and power. They're not after speed or efficiency, They're 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.880 after a car that. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.320 Can do hard tasks. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.200 Toyota's decided to go soft in the name of the environment. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.400 You know, there was a time when Toyota bragged about 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.080 being tough. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:46.080 Is right, Toyota tough no more. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:50.080 Some ninety percent of the seventy series sales are V eights, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:55.440 according to Toyota itself. Toyota's Australian sales boss Sean Hanley said, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.440 quote clearly there is still a preference for V eights. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.840 We can't hid from that. That's the reality. So why 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.119 are they dumping such a wildly popular product. Well, quote 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:12.640 unquote community expectations apparently, mister Hanley said, environment is on 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.360 people's minds. We believe the community expects that we will 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.320 reduce our CO two footprint. He said, there's currently a 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.280 two year waiting list for these vates. Some of those 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.120 orders may now not be met thanks to the decision 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.520 to discontinue the engine. Shouldn't really be up to the manufacturer, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.360 or the government or anyone else to decide if or 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.720 how our carbon dioxide. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:36.960 Footprint is reduced. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.120 The fact that ninety percent of sales of this vehicle 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.800 were vates, I think kind approves that customers want vates. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.920 What Toyota is saying is that green activists are demanding 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.000 that we reduce the overall emissions of our fleet, and 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.360 the easiest way to do that is to get rid 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.719 of what is an inefficient engine from a fuel perspective, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.640 even though that engine is strong and built for a 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.800 particular purpose for which it is renowned. Now they claim 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.480 that this decision was made years ago and has nothing 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.280 to do with the Albanezi government's new vehicle emission standards 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.400 which will be introduced next year, and they essentially mean 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.600 that car manufacturers will be fined if the emissions caused 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.720 by their overall fleet go above a certain limit, which 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.760 means you can still sell fuel guzzling cars, but that 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.760 then has to be offset by cars with much lower emissions, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.640 like electric cars, to bring the average down. And Toyota 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.640 has made it very clear that it doesn't think fully 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.520 electric cars are the way forward and they'll only ever 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.600 make up about thirty percent of the market. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.240 So if they're not willing. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.040 To go down the electric road, then they need to 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.880 do something, and the V eight would seem to be 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.880 the most obvious victim. Now, this is just a sign 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.600 of things to come. When those emission standards come in, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.240 car manufacturers will have to make plenty more decisions like 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.079 this unless they want to pay extra, and of course 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.400 that cost would have to be passed on to you. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.160 Some scoffed when emission standards were described as the end 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.080 of the ute and the end of the off roader, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.000 but it seems pretty clear that that's the way we're going, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:15.120 regardless of how popular these cars might be. They can't 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.040 get you to change your behavior, so they're going to 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.439 force you to change your behavior. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.120 Also coming up on the show. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.680 To Night calls for cashless welfare to be brought back, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.400 as a new report shows an increase in spending on 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.680 gambling and grog after the Albanesi government can a debit 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.000 card trial. Plus Paris turns into a battleground as the 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.520 far left celebrates its election win by attacking police, and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.800 Woolworths has decided it's suddenly okay to sell Australian flags 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.480 for an upcoming event. Will tell you about that story shortly. Well. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.400 It was a bit more bad news for the Albanesi 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.360 government today, with the latest newspole figures showing that the 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.160 coalition is ahead of Labor for the first time in 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.840 the key battleground state of New South Wales, is increasing 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.880 the lead they hold in Queensland, and it comes as 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.680 Labor lost a significant amount of younger voters. The primary 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.840 vote of the eighteen to thirty four year old demographic 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.520 fell to thirty percent. Let's bring in tonight's panel. Joining 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.240 me as always on a Monday Night with Sharry is 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.000 my late debate co host Liz Storer and Skyne New's 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.719 contributor Joe hildeband who will also be me on the lake. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.120 That's right, we are like. 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.440 We are slowly do you just need to grow the 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:30.560 bed out a little more. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.160 And we'll be there now. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.560 It's interesting The Australians published a story tonight saying that 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.080 young labor is sort of revolting against the party because 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.520 of the decision they made in terms of fatima payment. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.000 It's interesting to see the reduction in the youth support 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.160 for Labor. Are they going off to the Greens? 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:51.000 Yeah, that's always been a threat, and that's always I mean, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.440 young people are always I mean it's a cliche, isn't it. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.400 If you're not a socialist when you're eighteen, you have 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.360 no heart. If you're still a socialist when you're fifty, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:57.960 you have no head. 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:58.720 And I'm heartless. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.600 That's been a true to everyone from Winston Churchill down. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.680 So I don't think that's necessarily a problem that Labor 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.800 is losing youth votes, because they're always going to go 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.280 a more radical way, especially if they're on the left already, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.559 They're usually going to gravitate towards the most radically left 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.840 and then hopefully come back after they grow a brain. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.720 What I'm much more concerned about is Labor losing votes 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.439 in the middle in the middle demographic, my middle aged, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.520 middle class people, basically the heart and soul of mainstream Australia, 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.680 and that's a big problem. The interesting thing about this post, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.320 so what the odds and newspole do every few months 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.720 is they aggregate all the news polls over the past 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.160 three months, get a bigger number so that it's actually 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.560 statistically representative, and then they can break it down on 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:43.360 state by state basis. You can't do that, basically, the 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.679 sample size isn't big enough for a normal news poll 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.679 cycle to give state by state breakdowns. So this is 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:54.000 basically where Labor has been sitting over the last three months. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.240 The bad news is that it may have gotten worse 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.040 since then because of Adam a pavement stuff, because of 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.439 the high that expected inflation targets. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.400 So it'll be very interesting. Again. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.719 This is why I think Labor would be probably a 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.319 bit crazy brave to go to an election before the 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.160 Queensland state election and voters have had their chance to 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.560 whack Stephen Miles, because again they've seen safe labor seats 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.959 for already in by elections. They'll see more safe Labour 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.520 seats at the state election. Do you really want to 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.200 be sticking up your head above the parapet. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.120 Yeah, And you have to say at this point is 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.000 that the chances of this government being returned with a 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.680 majority are cooked. 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:34.760 It ain't going to happen. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.120 So we're now talking about the numbers and if we 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.840 get that interest rate rise, as I suspect we will 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.760 next month, or if not next month, the month after 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:44.959 that in September. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.160 Looking at these. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.840 Numbers that are starting to come through, now you would 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.320 be genuinely worried if you were Anthony Alberiz. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.360 Indeed, and of course Charmer's budget was all happy, happy, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.800 the future is so bright. Didn't really factor in that 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.439 things would be getting a lot worse. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.199 We saw that face off. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.320 Between him and the RBA at the time, whereas he 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.760 was counting on inflation not getting worse, the rates not 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.600 going up, and the RBA was like, ah, check'snotes, where 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.079 are you getting this idea from Jarmas? So they were 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.880 counting on that big time and I would say sold 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.400 Australians a furfey off the back of that. But this polling, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.200 I do find it very hard to get excited ten 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.000 months out to an election because we know that they 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.840 can change. So until we see a very steady trajectory, 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.800 trajectory I should stay still continuing. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:35.880 In this direction. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.680 There's a lot of counting chickens already happening, and that's 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.600 what polsters do, right, They dive into the minutia of 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:43.120 the numbers. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.560 And this is what this means. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.160 But what it does mean is that we're very likely 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.880 to see a cobbled together government with bedfellows that we 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:56.280 would rather not see in power. So one wonders, is 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:03.040 this really better than a majority labor government sharing power 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.080 with Indeed, in order to keep power would make for 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:07.600 a much worse correct. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.160 Historic calls for majority of labor. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.080 I love that moment. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:13.240 Take it to the bank. 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.280 It's it's going to be the headlight on the sky 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.920 News dot com, dot a u website. Go and check 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.560 it out now now while we're on labor. Daniel Andrews, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.000 of course is all of our favorite former labor leader, 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.600 and he's agreed to surrender his mobile phone records from 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.280 the day of a near fatal collision he and his wife, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.600 his wife was driving at the time, had with a 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.120 young cyclist in twenty thirteen. Ryan Muelman, of course is 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.040 his name. You've heard the story before. His lawyers have 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.360 been going after the Andrews family because he was struck 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.800 when he was fifteen by their suv in blair Gowy 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.680 on the Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, and they've been trying 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.160 to work out who mister Andrews may or may not 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.280 have spoken to when the crash occurred, because there was 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.320 a delay between the crash him calling Triple zero, and 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.360 they're worried about he could have been influenced in the 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.640 aftermath of the crash, but he had engaged Andrews. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.280 That is top Silk. Sorry. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.280 Philip Crutchfield KSE. They were going into court this morning. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.760 He charges up to twenty five thousand dollars a day 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.920 and he was going along to help fight this request 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:21.280 for phone records in court. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.680 This morning, and at. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.200 About five past eight, Joe, they decided we're not going 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.680 to challenge it anymore, which a strange turn of events. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.120 It is a very strange turn of events. I obviously 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:33.920 am not particularly close to. 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.120 Dan Andrews really. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.480 Certainly the people in labor that I like and support 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.800 are no friends of Dan either, and he's certainly no 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:53.600 friend of theirs. The only conclusion I can reach is 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.880 that he figured that. I mean, everything Dan Andrews does, 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.800 he's very intelligent, he's very strategically minded, calculating whatever you 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.400 want to call it, and he would have made the 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.639 calculation of what would be in his best interest, and 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:12.879 he's no doubt calculated that keeping the phone records suppressed 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.080 would have been a worse look than allowing them to 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.440 come out, even if they end up damaging him, because 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.959 he no longer has anything to lose. So obviously, this 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.640 is something that happened eleven years ago now, and there's 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.359 been all sorts of kind of nine years weird stuff, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.520 weird stuff about it, and so the question is whether 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.359 or not so he would have said, right, well, it 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.760 was worth the suppression or worth fighting it or whatever. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.800 It was just swearing that black is white as wont 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.760 to do while he was still premier and there was 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.680 political skin to be lost. Now there's no longer premiere, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.879 then he's obviously made the decision that what, you know, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.640 how could it really hurt him unless there's some sort 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.480 of you know, I think the reasoning is a. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.680 Bit more black white than that, though, because they were 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.080 originally after eleven year's worth of texts, they did a 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.960 one eighty and said, okay, we just want your phone 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.280 records the day of. I mean, right now, they don't 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.480 even know if someone was potentially on the phone while 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.720 driving and hit this young man, so that is when 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:20.679 this backflip occurred. So I'm now curious to know what 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.840 those other phone records would show because obviously the day 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.280 of he's not so worried. But if they wanted eleven 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:33.160 years worth of telephone records pertaining to this young man 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.120 that day that accident, that was going to put him 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.240 in serious trouble. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:39.960 So he was never going to give that up. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.120 Hired this big silk to fight the subpoena all the way. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.080 And then when it was just like okay, the day of, 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:48.679 I'll give you that much. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.560 And like you got to ask the question, what would 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.160 he be worrying about that was in those phone records. 0:18:53.920 --> 0:19:00.879 Right, I'm not any politician about it would have to be. 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:01.359 I mean they're not. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.280 They can't do the subpoena and then go oh well, 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.040 Daniel Andrews was talking to Cina Allen on this particular 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.680 day about the Commonwealth Games and that was dodgy. It 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:13.119 would have to pertain but specifically to this, and so 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.040 you do just have to wonder why he was so 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.280 determined to not reveal what was in it. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.240 Now the NDAs where we know that there were. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:27.480 Reforms planned and Bill Shorten was on Sky yesterday morning 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.119 talking about the fact that he wants to remove sex 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.520 work from the things that would be funded. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:34.920 Using prostitutes. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.760 Is that going to be in the rigs as bad? 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.080 We will rule it out, Yeah, it will all it out. 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.440 That's it's just not a sustainable proposition. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.200 Okay a report in the news. 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:47.879 It doesn't pass the test, does it. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.320 But advocates in the disability sector have spoken out. They 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.320 say that a ban would mean the government deciding who 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:56.399 could have sex. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:58.040 The ABC quoted. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:02.520 Disability Australia President Matt I should have read that before 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.400 I came on in marraik Yonkers. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.960 Anyway, it makes as much sense as what she said. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.679 She said, while it's not for every NDAs participant, it 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.680 has facilitated those supports for people to live an ordinary life, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.359 and sexual expression is part of an ordinary life as 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:20.120 a human being. 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.040 Changing this law would mean you. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.080 Are now actually having the government choose whether some people 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.000 with disability are having sex. Joe, I just thought all 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.359 that was saying was if you want to see a 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.000 sex worker, you have to pray. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:33.360 For it yourself. 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.320 Yes, I mean that's certainly what I have to do. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.240 So I don't see why. 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.440 Papers a curious look. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.840 It is certainly true that, you know, for someone who 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.640 has a disability and with all the issues that can bring. 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.640 So you know, if you have a physical disability, often 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.439 you do feel you know, I'm not attractive anymore. This 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.160 is awful, no one's ever going to want me again. 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.040 And you know, having having sex with someone can be 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.280 a way of getting out confidence back, and it can 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.120 be very therapeutic and supportive. So I dont actually disagree 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.360 with that. The question is where does that sit on 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:11.280 the list of priorities for people with disabilities in a 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.680 scheme that unless a huge amount of work is done 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.639 very very quickly and comprehensively will be so completely unaffordable 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.720 that basically no one will get anything. And so I 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.520 think you have to prioritize, you have to focus on 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:27.040