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Speaker 1: When life gives you, Lemon's Motor GP gives us one

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Speaker 1: of the most iconic stops on the calendar. So grab

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Speaker 1: a croissant, settle in. This is your French GP Preview,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm your host, Rnita

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Speaker 1: Vmulin and alongside me, as always, is Matt Clayton. But Matt,

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Speaker 1: for this episode, we thought let's bring in the big guns,

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Speaker 1: so joining us is someone who knows exactly what it

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Speaker 1: takes to conquer Lemon, the two thousand and seven French

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix winner and former Moto GP racer Chris Vermullin.

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Speaker 1: Before Chris, I bring you on, Matt, I have to

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Speaker 1: apologize you're outnumbered by Vermulins once again.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of us on this podcast has to have

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Speaker 2: won a Grand Prix, and I don't know about you,

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Speaker 2: whether you've got some past you haven't told me about yet,

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Speaker 2: but it's not you. It's definitely not me. My Motorcycle

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Speaker 2: Riding Exploits will be the world's shortest podcast, but always

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Speaker 2: nice to have a Grand Prix winner, and particularly this

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Speaker 2: Grand Prix and Chris, this is like old times you

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Speaker 2: and I being on a podcast.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 2: Two as they still let us on. But my question

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Speaker 2: to you is, do you think when the French Grand

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Speaker 2: Prixs coming up, oh yeah, I won that, And then

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Speaker 2: you get out of bed and go, oh man, that

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Speaker 2: was a long time ago, because it's you're not quite

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Speaker 3: I would say, oh, you're one hundred percent right, and

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Speaker 3: it's funny and made of mine who loves none a GP.

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Speaker 3: And we talk about it a fair bit. He said,

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Speaker 3: I just watched the French race. It come up again,

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Speaker 3: and I said, I can't believe it's eighteen years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it feel it feels like it was a little while ago.

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Speaker 3: But five or six years, you know, not eighteen years ago,

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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven race, and what an iconic track.

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Speaker 3: The track is still the same as it was then.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I do have great memories. I have greater

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Speaker 3: memories from other races, if you like. But that's my

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Speaker 3: if you that's that's the Grand Prix I won. It's

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Speaker 3: Suzuki's first win in a long time, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: iconic for a few reasons, and yeah, glad to be

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Speaker 1: What I like about the French Grand Prix is you

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Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen. It could be red flags,

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Speaker 1: it could be rain, it could be sunny and twenty

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Speaker 1: far in the championship with last weekend, Fabio Cordorarro is

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Speaker 1: just pulling something out of nowhere and putting the Yamaha

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Speaker 1: French riders. But let's take you back eighteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: because I can't believe you just said that, Chris, how

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Speaker 1: do you master Lamon? What's the secrets to this track?

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Speaker 3: Then? It is a quick laptome around Leman is not

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Speaker 3: It is a simple way to put it. A lot

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Speaker 3: is one of the busiest Grand Prixs of the year.

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Speaker 3: That the circus goes to two hundred thousand over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: The French crowd are absolutely nuts. No rider will get

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Speaker 3: imagine what it would be like to be a French

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Speaker 3: They would be massive, wouldn't they And it is a

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Speaker 3: They go mental, They just they just love it. They

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Speaker 1: I have a Christian When you were just talking about

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Speaker 1: you could hear the crowd over the top of the

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time since you race. But can

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Speaker 3: Well spl like you'd hear the crowd Moto GP because

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Speaker 1: And I looked over, they're going to test the fire us.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned the chainsaw must have got it go, must.

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Speaker 2: where that was you know, that qualifying lap And I've

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Speaker 2: given how slow that Yabaha is through the speed traps,

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Speaker 2: I've seen a million races of Chris. You've been in

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Speaker 2: a million of them, but that's one of those ones

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Speaker 2: Mark Mark has just collects poles for fun at the moment.

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Speaker 2: But it was a mesmerizing lap, and it was one

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Speaker 2: it was a bit deep in here, and I was

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Speaker 2: repeating it. It was just magical.

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Speaker 3: It was magical, and it set up his whole weekend.

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Speaker 3: Let's face it. He could get the start from there

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Speaker 3: but that set up his whole weekend and allowed him

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Speaker 3: It's great to see a Japanese manufacturer starting to make progress.

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Speaker 3: I think Honda is as well, just not as quickly.

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Speaker 1: so that's good and back to Moto GP. Back to

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Speaker 1: what I want to talk about. Alex Marquez goes into

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Speaker 1: as well, and we're only into round six, even though

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Speaker 1: it does feel like round six hundred because it's been

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Speaker 1: just talking about marcz as well. Do you think now

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Speaker 1: we're going to start to see or Chris, do you

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Speaker 1: think now we're going to start to see the factory

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Speaker 1: ducaddies start to break away or is this a circuit

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Speaker 1: like you said, because it's a bit smaller, does it

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Speaker 1: boast more group We'll see a bit more of an

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm on the outside as well, and this is

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Speaker 3: only my opinion, but I don't think the step from

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Speaker 3: And how cool would have I think to see him

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Speaker 3: Chris, Look, I don't think it's a particularly great track

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Speaker 2: And also there's an emotional aspect to him which you

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Speaker 3: Very much so. But I think Honda at the moment,

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought that up because that was

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Speaker 2: to read the tea leaves a little bit and try

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Speaker 2: and align himself with the right one. It's a super

432
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 2: interesting situation, I reckon it's very interesting.

433
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Speaker 3: I think anyone would sign him except you, Caddy. I

434
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 3: don't know, because they've got their books full, haven't they.

435
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 3: They already had to let the world champion go from

436
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 3: last year. So but you're right, I think Yamaha or Honda,

437
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: let's face it, the other two main ones or pretty

438
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 3: are they're they're gonna they would sign him in a

439
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 3: heartbeat for sure.

440
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,719
Speaker 1: Talking about KTM, let's talk about the Maverick situation, because

441
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: I feel like this weekend Tech three tech T I

442
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 1: should say their home race. Maverick's been on fire these

443
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: last two Chris, what's your take on this because we've

444
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: spoke about it before, haven't we, Matt, and Matt's saying,

445
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: I love is it's some have Rick Vignale's like, you

446
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 1: just don't know what you're going to get each weekend.

447
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 1: It's like a bag of surprises. How has your take

448
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: on him with Tech three and KTM been this year?

449
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 3: Well, he's one of the older riders in the championship, right,

450
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: And it goes back to hell that was the next

451
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,640
Speaker 3: writer after me that won on a Suzuki. So I've

452
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 3: known Maverick Friendly as a mate for a long time

453
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 3: and I can never understand how he can be so

454
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: quick and then so average, and then you go testing

455
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: and he's the fastest guy by a mile. We can't.

456
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: Now he's on a KTM and he's rap and he's battling,

457
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: and he's making moves and making passes that stick, and

458
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm just wow, I've never seen that. So there's obviously

459
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: something there that's making him very comfortable. So I think, look,

460
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: it goes back to Moto GP is a formula, right,

461
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: It's not the old days of five hundreds where it

462
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 3: was you've got to have a five hundred CEC and

463
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: that's the end. Of the rules. They're on the same breaks,

464
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: they're on the same tiers, they're on the same ECUs.

465
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 3: There's so many things that are that are identical, and

466
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: it's a formula. Now. I think the KTM is just

467
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 3: that much different to every other bike he's been on

468
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: recently that he's gone on. There's actually some things here

469
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: that I can get out of this to make work

470
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 3: for me. And whether that's WP suspension, whether it's the

471
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: still Trellis frame, the feeling of that, I don't know

472
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 3: what it is, but it looks like it's working and

473
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: it's exciting because it's it's brought something else in so

474
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 3: and Maverick's a strange unit. Like I said, I know

475
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: him quite well. There's no doubt about it. He is unique.

476
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: But I like the guy. He's good hearted, he's a

477
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: nice boke. He's a great family man, and I want

478
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 3: to see him do well.

479
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: He's the most appropriately named murder GP writer of all

480
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: time because he actually is what it says on his

481
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: birth certificate. But the thing that was really interesting actually

482
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: for U Chris after Spain, I think it was he

483
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: was being asked about his adaptation to the KTM, having

484
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: come in from another manufacturer as Bastianini his teammate has done.

485
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: And Vignalde's take was, all the other KTM riders are

486
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: complaining about the vibrating and we remember Jack Miller. This

487
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: was like he sort of wheely thing, like the bike's

488
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: vibrating like crazy. We had that awesome slow mo shot

489
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: at Motigi last year. It looked like it was on

490
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: a trampoline. Maverick has come in and said, well, compared

491
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: to the Aprillia, this thing doesn't vibrate all that much,

492
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: and his thoughts and his thoughts on Bastini's saying, well,

493
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Bastianini has come from the best bike and the most

494
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: sortied bike, and he's now having to adjust to this

495
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: thing that clearly isn't as good as a duc d

496
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: E GP twenty four. And you know, there might be

497
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of gazemanship in those comments, but it

498
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 2: does make sense in that Anaas have very particular rider

499
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: likes things to be just so, and if you're dealing

500
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: with this bike that's vibrating like crazy and you're not

501
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: used to it, and Maverick's like, that's fine, I'll ride

502
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: around that, And maybe that's why he's getting the results

503
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: that the other guys aren't.

504
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Speaker 3: I think it's spot on, and the riders have come

505
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: from different different backgrounds, and you're exactly I believe you're

506
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: exactly right, because let's face it, those bikes were so

507
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: different and ay it did come off the best bike,

508
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's probably right. You know, in

509
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: Prillier might not be the best thing out there, and

510
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: Maverick got it to work at sometimes, and so do Delash,

511
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: but we haven't seen it win many races, have we,

512
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think you spot it on there, mate.

513
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Speaker 1: Before we move on to the most anticipated question of

514
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: what is your predictions for this weekend, let's touch on

515
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: Jack Miller because it seems like Matte, I feel like

516
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head with this year.

517
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Jack finds the ceiling really quickly and then that's kind

518
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: of where it is and we're still a really strong

519
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: start of the year. But now it seems Jack's back

520
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: to making silly mistakes or crashing out. What's your take

521
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: on Jack being at Promak Yamaha, Chris. Do you think

522
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: it's been a good move for him? And do you

523
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: think we're going to see Jack continue to be stronger

524
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year.

525
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: What was the only move for Jack Let's face it,

526
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: like being completely honest, he didn't have any other options,

527
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: so it is a good move if you want to

528
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: stay racing, and I think the Yamaha made a step

529
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: forward and he probably dodged a bullet getting off that KDM. Like,

530
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: let's face it, the company itself is not in a

531
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: great position, so it's probably worked out very well for Jack.

532
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: He fits with the Primac team really well, and a

533
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: couple of races there he's outperformed QUADRAO. He's outperformed rins

534
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: most of the time established Yamaha riders, so he's getting

535
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: a lot out of it. But you're right, needs there's

536
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: a few mistakes starting to roll in, but we are

537
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: only around six. So the thing for Jackie is how

538
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 3: many rounds does he have? Because there's no doubt about it.

539
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: Yamaha talking to other writers, they're going to be they're

540
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 3: going to be seeing what options are, not only for Jack,

541
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: but Miguel Lavera can't be secure where he is either,

542
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't believe. So, yeah, interesting times because we saw

543
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: what Fabio did in Hereth as well, so the bike's

544
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: obviously making progress. So the potential is there.

545
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you mentioned before that you know, it

546
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: wasn't like he had any other options. He was the

547
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: twenty second and last guy aside or the grid for

548
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: this year. But I reckon he's come along there at

549
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: a decent time as they've gone. You know, yes, there

550
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: was a vacancy there, but Yamaha has now got double

551
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: the number of bikes, double the amount of data. There's

552
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: a need for someone there with as you were saying, Ronita,

553
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: Jack gets to this ceiling fast and then maybe he

554
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: hits his head on it, or maybe he sort of

555
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 2: peters a log at a certain level. But someone with

556
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: Jack's experience with multiple manufacturers a to bring Yamaha up

557
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: out of the basement in the short term. But you've

558
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: also got to look what impact could he have going

559
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: forward when you know, at the end of twenty six

560
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: these rules go in the recycling bin, So what impact

561
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: can he have going forward there? I actually reckon he's

562
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: been a good asset for them. The results have tailed

563
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: off the last couple of races. Qatar was a disaster.

564
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: He had food poisoning, it was a shock or he

565
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: had an absolute mayor there and then that bizarre d

566
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 2: NF at her Reth where a piece of the body

567
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: work actually cut a cable that came loose and actually

568
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: actually sliced one of the because he was having all

569
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: these problems electronically because a piece of the body work

570
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: could actually shared off one of the cables in the ESU,

571
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: so the bike I didn't know where it was and

572
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: he was going absolutely nowhere. So that was one of

573
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: those Only Jack Miller could have that sort of retirement

574
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: retirements bad, really really.

575
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: Bad level of racing that just it just doesn't happen.

576
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a one in a thousand shot. But

577
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: if anyone was going to tick that box on the

578
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: BINGO card, it was probably Jack. But I think his

579
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: impact behind the scenes there is just an experienced head.

580
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if you gave Yamaha truth serum whether they

581
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: would have wanted to have signed OLIVERA for two years

582
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: and Jack for one, because I reckon if they could

583
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: have had a do over on that, they might have

584
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: flipped those two contracts because we've not seen enough of

585
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: Olivera to know whether he's really on top of the

586
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Yamaha this year, and when the two of them were

587
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: on track together, Jack was Demonts probably better, So yeah,

588
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: curious one. I reckon he'll get another year. Chris, I

589
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: know about you, just simply because of where we are

590
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: in the rule cycle and the value he brings there.

591
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: And there doesn't seem to be like some young blokeout

592
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: of Moto Too that's knocking the door down to get in,

593
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: So it'd have to be another motor GP guy that's

594
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: parked at the moment, perhaps elbow him Outralue if yeah,

595
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: I see that.

596
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know Yamaha have some interest in him

597
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: and so on. But that that you're exactly right, I

598
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: think I think they will keep Jack. But yeah, let's

599
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: let's see, it's early stage and it's in Yamaha's you

600
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 3: know there are no rus because there's there's not many

601
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: guys coming through, right, so they can make the call

602
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: when they're ready to.

603
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Matt, what should people look out for this weekend? Then

604
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: at the French Grand Prix, because we know turn three

605
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: being one of the highest crash corners on the whole calendar,

606
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: so I could possibly see some crashes there. But what

607
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: should what should the listeners look out for?

608
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, no small accidents in the first couple of quarters

609
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: at Lamont for sure, but I kind of figured you

610
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: were going to ask me this, so I dove into

611
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: the database for you before he jumped on. So here's

612
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: a stat for you. Of the twenty three mTOR GP

613
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: events in the four stroke era, eleven of them have

614
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: either been wet or affected by rain at some point,

615
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: so one in two basically more than any other track

616
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: over that period, so more than Silvestone, more than Philip Island.

617
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Bring all your wardrobe to Philip Island because you're going

618
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: to be using it at some point. So at some

619
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: point this race weekend, and is it going to be

620
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: the Sprint, is it going to be in Q two,

621
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: is it going to be in the Grand Prix itself,

622
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: There's probably going to be some rain, so you've got

623
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: the opportunity for a bit of a mixed up grid.

624
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: And you rewind twelve months ago. Do you remember where

625
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: Mark Marquez finished on the podium in both the Sprint

626
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: and the Grand Prix last year and he was thirteenth

627
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: on the grid and watching his first lap in both

628
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: of those races last year was one of those ones.

629
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: After the race, I've got to go and see that

630
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: again because I've lost track of how many people he's

631
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: passed and where he's passed them. He was in those

632
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: first laps last year at both races. So I'm expecting

633
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of rain. It's just when it happens

634
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: and what it does to the pecking order. Because if

635
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: we get a random Q two and you've got people

636
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: out of positions for the sprint in the Grand Prix,

637
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: then sign me up because it's a fun circuit. When

638
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: you get a jumbled grin, I reckon.

639
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Chris, what's your take on that? You reckon? That's pretty

640
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: much back lang on, That's.

641
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: What all the stats and he's pretty much bang on.

642
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: You go to Lomon, it was it's the middle of

643
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: somewhere and cold, get your jackets out. It is like

644
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: being a Philip Olin in October. So there's no difference.

645
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: And you're right, it can be very jumble. It's a

646
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: it's a short track, so there's a lot of laps

647
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: around there. I don't know the number seven, Yeah, so

648
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to be consistent for that or

649
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: that many laps. It's difficult. As the bike as tired,

650
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: it degregates. Yeah, and managing those situations, Mark was insane

651
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: last year. You're exactly right known the start of the race,

652
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: but the end of the race and how much pressure

653
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 3: he put on Peco and and Jorge at the end

654
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: of that Grand Prix on the old bike that was

655
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: clearly not to the same level as the as the

656
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: newer bike. And yeah, he's going to I think Mark

657
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: Market is going to be pretty special around there. I

658
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: know you're going to come with your tips, so just

659
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: put me down for Mark Mark because I think that's

660
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: going to do the double.

661
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: Do you think they will have issues with the tire?

662
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: I was just thinking because it is such a long lap,

663
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: so it's less of a long race, but the shorter laps.

664
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Speaker 1: Are we going to have issues with the tire infringement,

665
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: that tire pressures, things like that again because we saw it.

666
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: Could I don't know, because it's so long, I think

667
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: because it could be very cold and the weather can

668
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: change for equal Yeah, you know, it could be quite

669
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: warm on the on the Saturday, for example, and be

670
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: much colder on the Sunday, and that's for the team

671
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: to manage and for the rider to manage. Are they

672
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: gonna you know, do you set it to go out

673
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: in front and you know, so there's so many variables.

674
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: For me, it is the dumbest rule. They've got some

675
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: dumb rules in manor GP at the moment, and I

676
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: don't mind in my opinion, like all those bloody zones

677
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: that they run off in and get long like penalties

678
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: and all and yellow flag and qualifying and you can't

679
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: do a lap. I don't like that rule either. But

680
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: the tire one is the worst. It is. It just

681
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense.

682
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Well, you saw that with Maverick in Qatar where he

683
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: was almost too fast for his own good and that

684
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: he got to the front and all the tire pressure

685
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: dove because they had set him up to run in

686
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: the pack, and then it's like, oh now Maverick's leading

687
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: the race. Oh dear Maverick, could you not lead the

688
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: race please? And then by the time he'd lost the

689
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: left of five laps and that was pretty much signed

690
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: his own penalties certificate on that one. And at the

691
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: end of the race, like literally as soon as he

692
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: crossed the line, I thought, okay, get ready for the

693
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: tire pressure penalty in three two wide and then there's

694
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: the investigation. And when it's in Qatar, I got to say, you.

695
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: Need to be under that temperature for fifty percent of

696
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: the race. Sixty Yeah, the race, but qualifying they can

697
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: run whatever pressure they want. Yeah, yeah, tell me where

698
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: the safety aspect. And Pedro Acosta last year got investigated

699
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: because he's high pressure went downe but his rim was

700
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: leaking air, so he didn't get disqualified. Now it's a

701
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: safety rule, and you're telling me that a leaking rim

702
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: is not unsafe.

703
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the way they proved his innocence on that one.

704
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: They put the wheel in a weally bin full of

705
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: water and they looked at went, oh, these bubbles coming

706
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: out of this thing. It's clearly got to leak in it.

707
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: But it's a high tech mooto GP for you. But

708
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: getting back to the Vinyarlest penalty, you know, to let

709
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: people behind the curtain here. So I'm sitting there riding

710
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: the post race stuff, and because it's Qatar, it's like

711
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: four point thirty in the morning, and then when you

712
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: get the notification there's an investigation for a high pressure penalty,

713
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: which you know is probably a slam dunk. At that point,

714
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: it's like, well, here's ninety minutes of my life that

715
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: i'd like back at half past four on a Monday morning.

716
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: So done.

717
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: I probably should have done the smart thing and just

718
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: had to kip until I actually announced it. But yeah,

719
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: I'll maybe do that next time.

720
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: But there's been some other rule changes, right, all that

721
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: drama that happened in Coder with Marquez, there's been now

722
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: been a rule change with that saying updates, it's start

723
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: for see you rules and penalties for not following them

724
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: across the rule change now where you can writers contest

725
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: if they've missed x amount of races. Is that right, mate?

726
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

727
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: So you we should probably just call these the Mark

728
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Marquez rule and the Joge Martin rule because that's the

729
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: reason they both bought in. You had, you know, Mark

730
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: with his comedy run off the grid at Austin and

731
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: cause a complete chaos and everyone else running off the

732
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: grid and delaying the Grand Prix.

733
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: If you ask me, it wasn't Mark knew what he

734
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 3: was doing. It's just that he confused everyone else and

735
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: then Erta and Donna didn't know what to do. What

736
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: do we do now? So it's Mark knowing the rules

737
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: very well. That's the way I.

738
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: See it well, and I love the There was a

739
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: lot of videos that came out subsequently from that where

740
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: you could see the other writers talking to their crew

741
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: chiefs and knowing that Mark's so good at reading the

742
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: conditions in that mixed stuff as well, So that's part

743
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: of it. And it's like if he goes, we go

744
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: and literally they're sitting there watching Mark, watching Mark, watching Mark,

745
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: and you can see Peco was on the robot. Yeah,

746
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: And as soon as Mark started running towards because he's

747
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: standing beside the bike because like he's clearly not on

748
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: the bike something, Something's about to happen here, and Pecko's

749
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: watching him, And as soon as Mark, where's Pecko's got?

750
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: It was comedy. But the other rule about the testing

751
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: for riders coming back from injury, effectively, this is what

752
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: a prialier wanted Joge Martine to do before he came

753
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: back for Qatar, and he wasn't allowed to. He had

754
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: to go out and ride a super bike somewhere, and

755
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: then obviously he had the misfortune of getting injured again

756
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: in Qatar. But hopefully when he's ready to come back,

757
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: and that's sooner rather than later, he can actually get

758
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: his feet wet and ride a mornergype bike somewhere rather

759
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: than turning up completely underdone like he was in Qatar.

760
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say, and that's what a pretty wanted.

761
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: And Joe wanted a test because, let's face it, he

762
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: got bugger or pre season testing and they're going into

763
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: the third round, right and he's fourth round, he's done

764
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: no riding, and it had to be a unanimous decision.

765
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: And my understanding is gi Catti said no, yes, man,

766
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: they rule those technical rules. So it's hard, isn't it

767
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 3: so petty?

768
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: As well? Like if you Dicatty won three thousand races

769
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: in a row and he won a world championship for

770
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: you last year, but no, you're not allowed to have

771
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: a one day test to see if your leg works.

772
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: But That'smoto GP for.

773
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: You, yes, Lamoto GP.

774
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: Well, Chris said he's going to go for Mark dominating

775
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: this weekend. Matt, are you on the same bandwagon as that?

776
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: Look, I'm saying you Dicatti's going to win because the

777
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Dacadi wins. So if they win this weekend. Incidentally, Todcadi,

778
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: that's the all time record number of Grand Prix wins

779
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: consecutively to be twenty three. So whenever I try and

780
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: pick you another winner in this I always think, well,

781
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: who else could beat one of the Ducaddi's on merit,

782
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: which is probably nobody. Let's factor in a bit of

783
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: weather chaos here, but I still think we're going to

784
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: get Dacati winning. But I reckon we're going to get

785
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: Yamaha on the podium again. And we had that awesome,

786
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: well potentially awesome podium in twenty one when Jack Miller

787
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: won that crazy flag to flag race and the other

788
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: two riders of the podium were Zarco and Quasharero. There

789
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: were no fans there. That was the worst part about

790
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: that podium because it was the COVID times. There was

791
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: no one there. And so I'd love a free on

792
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: that podium at Lamont on a Sunday. So let's get

793
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: Yamaha on the podium again and enjoy those scenes, because

794
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: it'll be complete chaos. If Quite finishes on the podium again, it.

795
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: Would be complete chaos. Well, they have you guys, all

796
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: three writers covered by twenty points in the championship. Any

797
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: mistakes are not going to go unpunished this weekend for

798
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: the French Grand Prix in Lemont, and you guys can

799
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: catch all the action live and add break Free on

800
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: Fox Sports and KO Plus. Keep up to date with

801
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: all Mad's articles on Fox sports dot com, do AU

802
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: forward Slash Motorsport, and stay up to date with our

803
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: socials at Fox Motorsport. Everywhere, but from Matt Clayton and myself,

804
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: we're going to say goodbye Chris. Thanks so much for

805
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: coming on. Always good to chat with you, and we

806
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: will have you back on the pod hopefully very soon.

807
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Speaker 3: Sounds good, Thanks guys,