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Speaker 1: The city and with her with Kate Ritchie podcast.

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Speaker 2: I've got some news about Jada Pinkett Smith. Now during

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Speaker 2: the song Whip, you were saying that you had her

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Speaker 2: in the studio open.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was amazing. She came in a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago and she was such a good chat. She

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Speaker 3: was a very open, very calm, just a great energy

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Speaker 3: to be around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well they do talk a lot, don't they.

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Speaker 4: The Smith we opened up about a relationship. I didn't

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Speaker 4: think we could talk about it too much.

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Speaker 1: Well, they do a lot of talking about it, didn't.

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Speaker 2: She even had that the TV show Red Table where

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Speaker 2: she had all of the family on the.

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Speaker 4: Her daughter was on there talking about her sex life

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I think her mother was even on there at some point.

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Speaker 2: That There's been a lot of speculation over the years

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Speaker 2: about what kind of relationship they have a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: there was a singer that she was romantically involved with,

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Speaker 2: called August someone right. He came out and said that

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Speaker 2: they had they had linked up, and then she did

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Speaker 2: admit that on the TV show with her husband. So

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Speaker 2: it does feel as though things, you know, they are

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Speaker 2: pretty open about things and everything is not only is

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Speaker 2: their relationship, an open relationship, but everything is on the

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Speaker 2: table to chat about. And then, of course, at the

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Speaker 2: Academy Awards only a couple of years ago, Chris Rock

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Speaker 2: made the joke about Jada being baled.

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Speaker 1: And Will took to the stage. We can't forget this.

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Speaker 4: Mark of course, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: A house full on was that Jada has actually done

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Speaker 2: an interview because she's written a memoir, and I think

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Speaker 2: even in the interview she said that she thought that

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Speaker 2: her husband at the time was taking to the stage

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Speaker 2: and it was a bit of a comedic, like it

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Speaker 2: was a yeah, until he actually turned back and came

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Speaker 2: back and sat down, and then she realized it just

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Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't a joke at all. But what she

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Speaker 2: has finally revealed is that not only have they had

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Speaker 2: an open relationship for a very long time, but they

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Speaker 2: actually haven't even been in partnership for about seven years.

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Speaker 5: There are so many surprising things in the book, but

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Speaker 5: the thing that surprised me the most was that in

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, you and Will decided that you were going

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Speaker 5: to live completely separate lives. It was not a divorce

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Speaker 5: on paper, but it was a divorce. So from the

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Speaker 5: year twenty sixteen, which is seven years ago. Now, yes,

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Speaker 5: y'all have been apart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, so I really should have been. Get your

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Speaker 3: ex wife's my ex wife's name out of your mouth.

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Speaker 2: It's all kind of but they have it. They're not

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Speaker 2: officially divorced, and I guess they haven't haven't. And we

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Speaker 2: see them a lot together. I mean we were just

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Speaker 2: saying they've been on on the TV show. They do

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Speaker 2: things as families. They attend the Academy Awards together, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know how separate that is.

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Speaker 3: She I think was in a relationship with one of

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Speaker 3: her son's friends. Now I'm not the gossip queen, but

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Speaker 3: she was in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: In the book, I'd have I'd have that information.

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Speaker 3: Intimate relationship with a close family friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was much around that which was.

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Speaker 3: Known, and she spoke about it, which was extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: See, I look at that. They've got enough money that

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Speaker 4: they can have two separate quarters in a house and

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Speaker 4: a huge mansion that you don't even have to see

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Speaker 4: each other. So they live a life that you know,

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Speaker 4: the average person doesn't have. It's weird, but to still

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Speaker 4: run into each other all the time. A lot, a

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Speaker 4: lot of relationships would do this when they where they would.

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Speaker 3: Actually open relationships.

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Speaker 4: Stay together, we're not together, stay together for the kids,

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Speaker 4: live in the house together.

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Speaker 1: People like that who have lived in the same house

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Speaker 1: under the same roof.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing this afternoon, Darren?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it's.

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Speaker 2: I do think it makes things incredibly complicated, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: how separate do you want to be if you're under

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Speaker 2: the same roof, Like how much of your life can

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Speaker 2: you actually move on with?

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Speaker 1: And how do you exist being separate but then having to.

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Speaker 3: Deal with I think the most confronting thing to think

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Speaker 3: about now is when I take all the parts of

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Speaker 3: this puzzle and I put it together. I look back

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Speaker 3: on a conversation from a couple of days ago. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about hall passes. We're talking about the ultimate Hall

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Speaker 3: Pass and Kate, I think you mentioned your number one

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Speaker 3: was Will Smith.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: No, I would never because I have to say I'm

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Speaker 2: not a massive Will Smith fan.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were.

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Speaker 2: No, And I won't watch any move like if someone

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Speaker 2: suggests a movie that he's in, absolutely not. Or I

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Speaker 2: didn't even want to watch Suicide Squad the other day.

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Speaker 4: Because he's a does he know about this?

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I was calling through now don't get Will Smith Sure

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Speaker 3: bad news for him, Kate's not into him and.

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