1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the land of the Gatigel 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: people of the Uran Nation. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the Real Story with Joe Hildebrand 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: and by golly bye, gosh bye, g Do we have 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: an episode for you this week because yes, you guessed it. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: It's World War III averted again. Donald Trump has once 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: more saved the entire universe, or has he? 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: We'll find out. So huge news this week. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has produced a twenty point plan don't ask 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: me to name them all to basically end the war 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: in Gaza. And of course, plenty of people have come 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: up with ideas or demands or whatever it may be 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: to end the war in Gaza, but none of them 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: have been Donald Trump, and none of them have been 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: accepted by the Israeli government and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya 16 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: who but this one has. So could this finally be 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: the pathway to peace in the Middle East? And what 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: exactly is going on? And what exactly does this plan 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: even say? Well, here's where things get really interesting. So 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanya who have met in the 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: White House, and Donald Trump has come up with a 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: plan that's not entirely different to a plan that Joe 23 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: Biden came up with just a year or so ago. 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: But it's got that sort of you know, Trump panash, 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: shall we say. And we know that Donald Trump isn't 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: afraid of picking up the phone and dropping a few 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: f bombs and telling whoever it may be, including Benjamin Netanyaho, 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: who very few people get to tell what to do, 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: except of course for the extreme right wing MPs that 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: he's in coalition with. And no one has been our 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: to basically get him to agree to stopping this war 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: for the past two years. And you know there's good 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: reason for that. If our country was invaded and twelve 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: hundred people were killed, hundreds more abducted and held as hostages, 35 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: many of them also killed, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: be in a rush for peace either. But the carnage 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: since has been enormous. We know that tens of thousands 38 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: of people in Gaza have been killed, and also several 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: international civilians, including an Australian, and this surely has to stop. 40 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: And Benjamin et Yahoo has been refusing to stop it. 41 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: And he's been refusing to stop it because he has 42 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: people that he relies on to form government who are 43 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: demanding no Palestinian state at all. Ever, in fact, they 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: want all the Palestinians who are currently in Gaza and 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: the West Bank, they want them gone. They want them 46 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: just picked up and swept out. So they are actually 47 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: their own kind of ultra extreme Zionist version of From 48 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: the River to the Sea, except they want it to 49 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: be all Israel, and of course we know that Hamas 50 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 2: and indeed until recently the Palastinian Authority have also been 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: saying that they think it should be Palestine from the 52 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: River to the Sea. So what does this plan actually 53 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: look like and what does it say? Well, here is 54 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: the killer because Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu appear to 55 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: think that it says two different things. So the wording 56 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: in the plan, and this is where it gets really interesting, 57 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: given that Australia and the UK and France and Canada 58 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: and about one hundred and fifty other countries now have 59 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: recognized Palestine as a state. The year is where it 60 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: gets really interesting. So the plan says that after Donald 61 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: Trump takes over Palestine, and this is just just saying 62 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: that sentence is just thrilling, and after the Palestinian Authority 63 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: is reformed, and presumably after democratic institutions are put in place, 64 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: and elections have been held and the population hasn't elected 65 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: the wrong people. 66 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: Because of course the last people they voted in were Maas. 67 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: That after. 68 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: That takes place, the conditions quote may finally be in 69 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self determination and statehood, 70 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people. 71 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: So that is what the plan says. But Benjamin Netanyahu, 72 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: going back to Israel, says in Hebrew to his own 73 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: domestic audience that Israel will still absolutely no way, Jose 74 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: recognize a Palestinian state. And again this has gone from 75 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: a two state solution being proposed, being on the table 76 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: since the Oslo Accords nineteen ninety three, in fact, since 77 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: Israel was created in nineteen forty eight. Suddenly that two 78 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: state solution, which everyone including the US, had always had 79 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: as a benchmark, always had as a target, even though 80 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: it was ever receding over the horizon, that two state 81 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: solution has gone. Israel's just say no, no way, even 82 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: though it has just agreed to the document with those 83 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: conditions that I read out to you, just then quote 84 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: unquote that after all this happens, the conditions may be 85 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self determination 86 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: and statehood. But of course the document doesn't say yes, 87 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: absolutely that is going to happen. It just says that 88 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: it may happen. And Benjamin Etta who says that there's 89 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: no way he will ever allow that to happen. So 90 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: some people have said some people have said this is 91 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: the greatest document of all the time. Others have said, well, 92 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: hang on a minute. This is a document that the 93 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: two most important people involved, namely the US and Israel, 94 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Bendabinetteio have basically taken two completely opposite 95 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: interpretations of it. So that doesn't bode well. I would say, 96 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: in fact, that vodes very well, because every other plan 97 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: has been rejected, nothing else has worked. And so if 98 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: you get both parties and amassus yet to agree to 99 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: this at the time of recording, but if you get 100 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: both parties actually on a pathway to something, to at 101 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: least ceasing hostilities, to at least some kind of reconstruction, 102 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: some kind of democratization. Once you start on that journey, 103 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: eventually you are going to get somewhere. Even if you 104 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: disagree where you are going, you're at least going on 105 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: that journey, God, I hate to use the word journey. 106 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: And you are going to at least reach a destination 107 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: which is a long way away from your starting point, 108 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: so it could actually work. And this is a lot 109 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: like what various nations have been trying to do by 110 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: recognizing Palestine as a state, even while knowing that that 111 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 2: is all but impossible. 112 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: And at best a very very long way off. 113 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: If a whole bunch of incredible miracles just happened to 114 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: fall into place. And this, of course is what Prime 115 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: Minisan Anthony Alberanezi did at the United Nations, just as 116 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: many other nations did. As I mentioned, the UK and 117 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: France and Canada, New Zealand still know, Germany still know, 118 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: Italy still know. So they also bought a two state solution. 119 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: They haven't actually said yet. We now recognized Palestine as 120 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: a state, you know, if X, Y and Z happens. 121 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: And here is where our own domestic politics comes into it, 122 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: because Susan Lee, the opposition leader, in an act of 123 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: absolute for me, while our prime minister, while our government 124 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: was over there, while Australia was officially at the UN 125 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: making its position known, she as opposition leader, was writing 126 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: to the US government writing to US Republicans saying, I 127 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: actually don't listen to what he says. If we get 128 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: into government, we'll just reverse this policy. Now that may 129 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: well be true, and that may well be the debate 130 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: that we've been having here in Australia, and that's good. 131 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: We should have that debate. I've got reservations about recognizing 132 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Palestine myself. But what you do not do, and what 133 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: as far as I'm aware, has never really been done before, 134 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: is as an opposition right to or make representations to 135 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: a foreign government undermining Australia's official national position. You don't 136 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: do that ever, let alone when Australia, the official Australian government, 137 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: the ones democratically elected, they're making representations on behalf of 138 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: the nation and acting on behalf of the nation in 139 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: an international forum. The whole principle of opposition, the whole 140 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: notion of how opposition works, how it can be allowed 141 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: to work, developed under the Westminster system to how could 142 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: you have a shadow government or how could you have 143 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: someone opposing the government and still have a cohesive state. 144 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 2: And so this was termed as His Majesty's loyal opposition. 145 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: So the principle is that, yes, you might have these debates, 146 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, you're both absolutely 147 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: loyal to the state, even if you were opposing the 148 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: government of the day. And that is the tradition, the convention, 149 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: the principle that Susan Lee has absolutely trashed by deliberately 150 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: trying to sabotage the government's position while the elected official 151 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: government Australia was there representing Australia at the United Nations. 152 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: And it appears that this was done after a phone 153 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: call with the Israeli government. We definitely know phone call 154 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: occurred with the Israeli government at around the same time 155 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: the letter was sent. So you have the prospect, the 156 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: possibility that the opposition is acting at the behest of 157 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: and certainly in the interests of a foreign government in 158 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: Israel to another foreign government in the US against the 159 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: Australian government. Now again, this is serious, serious stuff. This 160 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: is attacking Australia and colluding with foreign powers. I don't 161 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: think she even realizes what she's doing. I don't think 162 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: she even realizes just how serious it is. That for 163 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: people who work or know anything about international relations, diplomacy, 164 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: and frankly just politics, there's a reason why this has 165 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: never been done before. It is absolutely outrageous and of 166 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: course it's incredibly stupid because as we have just seen, 167 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: it now appears that even the Trump administration, the people 168 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: who Susan Lee was writing to, is now saying, yes, 169 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: we have to develop and indeed we have developed. 170 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Here. 171 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: It is a path for Palestinian statehood. We have a proposition, 172 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: a document. It's in the document in that quote I 173 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: read you earlier, it says, once we do this, once 174 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: we put this plan in place, it is then possible 175 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: that there will be a path to Palestinian self determination 176 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: and statehood, which we recognize is the will of the 177 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: Palestinian people. So suddenly Susan Lee isn't even on the 178 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: side of the people. She's betrayed Australia to cozy up to. 179 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: And while you're getting your head around, that's a little 180 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: nugget for the right to chew on. Here's a little 181 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: nugget for the left to chew on. After two years 182 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: of having protests day in, day out, picketing MP's officers, 183 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: picketing and barricading outside the pm Zone office, to the 184 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: point where he's been forced to move marching every single weekend, 185 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: week in week out chanting free, free Palestine. 186 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Guess what it looks like. 187 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: You might just get your free Palestine, and it's going 188 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: to be run by Donald Trump. So to get right 189 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: into Trump's twenty point plan for peace in the Middle East, 190 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: we thought we'd bring in our very own Trump whisperer, 191 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: the man who knows Donald better than Donald knows himself. 192 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: He's an advisor to a couple of former pms, couple 193 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: of former premiers. Just you know, anything that happen in 194 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: this country happens with the impromata of my next guest. 195 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: His name is Tim Timmy g. Glees and welcome to 196 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: the real story. My friend, how are you great. 197 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 3: To be back, Joseph, I'm fitting well. 198 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Talk us through your thoughts. 199 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: When Donald Trump produced this miraculous twenty point plan that 200 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Benjamin net and Yahoo, unlike anything else that's been put 201 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: forward since his conflict began, has actually agreed to. 202 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's going on? Can it work? 203 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: Oh? I don't know. He broke all the political rules 204 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: Donald Trump in releasing this twenty point plan, because everyone 205 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: knows a plan can only be five points, and if 206 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: you're struggling for a fifth point, which is often the case, 207 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 3: the fifth point is expedite point one or fast track 208 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: point one. 209 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: See your bar. 210 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: I must admit I only read the first two points 211 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: because I came to a conclusion that's all Donald had input. 212 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: Into it, that's right. 213 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 3: And the first I think was to make Gaza terror 214 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: free zone. 215 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Ah, that's a good idea, better than all those other plans. 216 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: It says, let's make Gaza are terrorist though. 217 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: And the second one said Gaza will be redeveloped for 218 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: the economic benefit of the people, which to a strip 219 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: of casinos. 220 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 221 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: It's first to nothing about health, education. 222 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: Welfare, so no terrorists and redeveloping it for the benefit 223 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: of the people rather than against the benefit of the people. 224 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: You've got to admit those are two pretty good. 225 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: So the Mahal, the Trump taj Mahal being relocated to Gaza. 226 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: I love the video of a twenty point plan. Though 227 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: you can get more than half of it right. You 228 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: can say I got my you know, they just wouldn't agree. 229 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: And also, but there's something in it for everyone, isn't there. 230 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: This is the whole thing, like you've got. As I 231 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: was saying earlier, there's a form of words that says, 232 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: look once we do this, once we reform the Palestinian Authority, 233 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: the conditions may be right for a pathway to a 234 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: future Palestinian state. And so you can read that and say, great, 235 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: we're on the pathway to statehood. Fantastic in the future, 236 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: going for its stage in the future, going forward, and yes, 237 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: net Yahoo comes out of it and says no, no, no, no, 238 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: don't worry, I'm never going to do that. But at 239 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: least it kind of gets the ball rolling. So if 240 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: there is something, if everyone can look at this and saying, right, well, 241 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: this could give me what I want, and you know, 242 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: the Palestinians can say, well, this could give us what 243 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: we want, and you just start going even if you don't, 244 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: even if you don't get everything you want, at least 245 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: it's that circuit breaker and it stops the killing and 246 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: it gets you going somewhere better. 247 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: At least it's a framework. 248 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Or is that ridiculously Naia, Yeah, no, it's. 249 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: A framework for something. Anyway, that's not what did he 250 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: say he's going to stop the wars within three weeks 251 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: or two weeks? 252 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he stopped all of it, like his eighth 253 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: floor or something. 254 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Even if it all turns to you know what, and 255 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: nothing happens. He can say, I release my twenty point 256 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: plan and if they implemented my twenty point plan, there 257 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: would be peace. 258 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: And the thing is I mean people, I mean, we 259 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: love nothing more than laughing. Well, we laughed with Donald Trump, 260 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: not at him. Others like to laugh at him. But 261 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords, which were probably the most successful up 262 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: until this point, that was done in the first Trump administration. 263 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: I mean the negotiations with his son in law Jared 264 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: Kushna to have other Arab states recognize Israel literally, you know, 265 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: recognizing its right to exist, allowing Israeli citizens to enter 266 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: their country, allowing Israeli planes to fly over their airspace. 267 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: All that was done on the first Trump administration. So 268 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: he's got form in actually doing things that previous administrations 269 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: have found absolutely impossible in this area. 270 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: Well, in the words of Peter Dutton, he's a deal maker. 271 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: He has the art of the deal as Donald Trump. 272 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so this is the other thing. I did 273 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: fire up a bit about this. Peter Dutton was punished 274 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: enormously for being seen to be too pro Trump when 275 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: it looked like Australia and Trump were at loggerheads over 276 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: free trade and Australia's economic interests were being undermined by Trump, 277 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: and there was clearly a public perception that was certainly 278 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: that Trump was dangerous and risky and we didn't want 279 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Australia to be like that, and also that Peter Dutton 280 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 2: was seen as too close to Trump and siding with 281 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Trump instead of the Australian government. And then we've seen 282 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Susan Lee take this extraordinary step of writing to US 283 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: Republicans and undermining the Australian government's position. That is, I've 284 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: described that as basically treasoners. That is something that has 285 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: never done in Australian politics. There's almost always a bipartisan 286 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: approach to foreign policy, and even when there are disagreements 287 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 2: domestically about what our foreign policy should be, the idea 288 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: of an opposition basically running, you know, telling a foreign government, 289 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: possibly at the behest of another foreign government, hey, don't 290 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: listen to our prime minister, don't listen to the Australian 291 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: government official at the UN or in your in your talks, 292 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: because we're just going to undo everything. That's That's nuts, 293 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: isn't it. 294 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: That's true? I have I can't remember any any precedent 295 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: for that. 296 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: I have no idea what Susan Laney is doing, absolutely none. 297 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: I know she criticized the former age KME minister Anika 298 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: Wells the other day, saying she was the worst age 299 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: KM minister ever, without remembering that as healthcare ministers she 300 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: had to resign because she spent more time on chief 301 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: Flights of the Gold Coast and entire school is for 302 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: about ten years. So yeah, I don't know what's going 303 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: on with the opposition. It's not good. 304 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: Steff very smart and yeah, and I actually don't think 305 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: that they know what they're doing. I don't think it's 306 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: actually a sort of sinister plot. I think they are 307 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: just so hopelessly naive that they don't realize what an absolute, 308 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: an absolute verboten no no, that is in foreign power. 309 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: And it's like nobody wants the job. As we said earlier, 310 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: after ten years in government, the first going into his opposition, 311 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: the first opposition leader, it's just a suicide mission. That 312 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: person will end up stacking shells at the IDA within 313 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: five years. I'm not saying you're going to stack shelves 314 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: at the IDA, Susan not putting words in my mouth. 315 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to get but you know what I mean, Well, 316 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean the only reason she's still there as opposition 317 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: leader is because no one wants to take her job. 318 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Right now, you would. 319 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Have to think that just before the election, surely there 320 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: will be a move against her and there will be 321 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: any number of candidates and there's no way that she 322 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: will survive. 323 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: And even Hasty now it's running off a bit of 324 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: a Donald Trump twenty and sixteen playbook of bringing back 325 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: the car industry and all this sort of stuff. So 326 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: even he's zagging seeing what's out there. 327 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, you've got Hasty, You've got, of course 328 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Angus Taylor, whose ambitions haven't gone away. You've got just 329 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: Enter Price spectacularly blowing up the leadership and stepping away 330 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: from shadow cabinet. And of course you've got a potential 331 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 2: come back from Josh Friedenberg at the next election if 332 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: he decides that he wants to join Tim Wilson and 333 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: be a Teal killer. 334 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like basically Albert loves a you know, 335 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: supporting an analogy so to why and using the rabbit 336 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: o's again. After we got kicked out of the comfort 337 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: two years, we got back in. But we weren't really 338 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: back in We didn't know what we're doing with bad players, 339 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: unfit players, unqualified people running the club and really could 340 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 3: have been kicked out again five years later. So it 341 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: really does take a while to recover. 342 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: Susanly is George Piggins or was. 343 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 3: Basically, there's about nine coaches before we hit a good one, 344 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: so she's one of those. 345 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump, he may have saved the world, but 346 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: he's lost his own country. The US government has just 347 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: had to shut down. I mean, from most Australians, it 348 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: is just nuts that this is a thing that actually happens, 349 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: and happens with alarming regularity in the US. But the 350 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: federal government is basically just shut down because Congress can't 351 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: agree on money bill. 352 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. And at the same time, I think this week 353 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand federal workers get their redundancies 354 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: who have taken redundancies from earlier on compliments of Dodge, 355 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: and I think this shutdown, there's about seven hundred and 356 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 3: fifty thousand federal workers. Now, who will you know, be 357 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: taking who won't be going to work except for the 358 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: only thing that remains open of the essential services. When 359 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: government gets shot down, I think Donald Trump said we 360 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: will be laying people off, but the only people will 361 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: be laying off will be Democrats. So when people accuse him, 362 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: it's going to cost people jobs. 363 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: But it's hard not to love him. 364 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just adds to the only rosiodone. 365 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: It just adds the perception that it's a dumpster fire 366 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: at the moment the US, you know, and whatever is 367 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: every other day the National Guards getting someone I read 368 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: some of the other day. In the last fifty seven years, 369 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: the National Guard has been rolled out by six presidents, 370 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: and only for various reasons. I mean, I think JFK 371 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 3: did it for integration, Leondard Johnson did it for sort of. 372 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: I think it was an assassination of Martin Luther. 373 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: King and that was they also rolled him out against 374 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: some striking miners, I think. 375 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think George Bush rolled them out for Rodney 376 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: King riots. And you know, they're more recently rolled out 377 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: for the George Floyd. But by and large they're rolled 378 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 3: out by governors for in times of rolled out in 379 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: times of disaster. You know, you're bringing the National Guard. 380 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: When the the post office is too long, let's bring 381 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: in the National Guard. 382 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: So but now they're just this National Guard is just 383 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: they're literally on standby for everything. 384 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got It's kind of like I think 385 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: he feels like he's got his very own police force. 386 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Now. He says, oh what, I can just do this 387 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: whenever I want. Fantastic. 388 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: It's like one of those movies where you just get 389 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: Joe blogs and you're making president of the US and 390 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: he suddenly goes. 391 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can do whatever I want. This 392 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: is fantastic. I can eat ice cream for breakfast. That's well. 393 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: There is a law, it's called the Home Rule Act, 394 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: where in times of emergency, which is determine the term 395 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 3: emergency by the President, he can take over a city's 396 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: police force for thirty days and so that he can 397 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: just no matter what these. 398 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: State leads, I wouldn't want to be Portland, Oregon right now. 399 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: That's why Portland. I didn't think that was near the 400 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: Mexican border. 401 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 402 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: There's a lot of trouble there. 403 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too many hippies, those all those woke marks. 404 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: Nobody he briefed his military leaders. Oh, he's telling him 405 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: to do a lot of things, but he said he 406 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: wants to practice their training ground domestically because that's where 407 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: the real terror ass is. And he says, you learn more, 408 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: will learn more doing it domestically because it's going to 409 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: be more difficult because the terrorists aren't in uniforms. 410 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: So that's he is it outside the box thinker. 411 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: And finally, Timmy, look, we know you're an ideas man, 412 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: You're a blue sky. I think you're someone who's you know, 413 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: got a lot of like like the Donald himself, he's 414 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: someone who's got a lot of solutions for problems that 415 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: people have been unable to solve and in many cases 416 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: did not even realize existed. And one of them is 417 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Canada's tourism industry. And you've you've been thinking about that 418 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: a bit, right, Yeah. 419 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 3: Well I'm half Canadian, so father was Canadian, my brother 420 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: was born in Canada, so I've got skin in the 421 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: game here, right, Yeah, I love Canada. 422 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm half American, so you know, yeah. 423 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: That's right. Well should we shouldn't be talking together? 424 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: We're NAFTA. 425 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: So everyone how talked about how Canadian tourism is flying? Yeah, 426 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: all these people. I think the real thing is the 427 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: way we talk about Canada is always the sentences. I 428 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: love to go to Canada. I might go to Canada. 429 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: It's not like I'm gonna go to Canada. 430 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: And well, it's just Australia with Tonow, isn't it. 431 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: That's right? Why the Canadian why tourism has increased? The 432 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: worrying thing for Canada did is eighty percent of the 433 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: tourists come from the US and that tourism is down 434 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: eleven percent every year. So un least they grow, it's falling. 435 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: And the flip side is Canadian tourism to US is 436 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: down thirty three percent of the year. So unless they 437 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: do something, grow the base. Take a view like the 438 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: Aussies did in the eighty Joseph. 439 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Under the Truck, Another Shrimp on the Barbie and John Brown. 440 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: Big shout out to Chris Brown if he's listening. So 441 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 3: and remember then with Minister, our ads were basically Paul Hogan, 442 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: harbor Bridge, Opera House, money shots, Bondi Beach, Great Barrier, 443 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: reef Ularu or airs, rockers are known. 444 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Canada doesn't have any of those things. 445 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: Well it does they they're doing these quirky ads. Look 446 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: at the Canadian Tourism web page. It's an absolute disgrace. 447 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: It's like I don't know, you want to go to 448 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: Bonnie doone or something, but they've made one ad recently 449 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: which apparently it's gone the virals as a social media 450 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: like to say he's hug it out, or an American 451 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: tourist turns up to Canada, you know it says I'm 452 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: from Canada and the hotel yeah, gives her, gives him 453 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: a caddle. But they've got to think global. You know, 454 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: there's all these American movie stars, sorry, Canadian movie stars 455 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: that everyone think American, like Ryan Reynolds, Ryan Rachel. 456 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: Mccadams, even Michael J. Fox, Michael J. 457 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: Fox, even your Celine Dion's yeah, Drake. So if I 458 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: was Canadian tourism, I'd be putting all these stars out, 459 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: you know, saying, look where Canada and you've got everything. 460 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 3: You've got Montreal, Quebec. So you can sort of appeal 461 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: to the. 462 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: Say you're it's like America and you're you can go there, 463 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: put together in one country, and that's perfect for Americans 464 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 2: because they just don't really like it. 465 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: They look Australia, see all the social media. Europe's a 466 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: dumpster fire, the US is a dumpster fire. Come to Quebec. 467 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: You can get you Europe and then come to Toronto 468 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: all the other places in Canada and you get your America. 469 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: And Toronto and Montreal hate each other like Sydney and Melbourne. 470 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: They're an hour apart. Bi plot. There's so much. 471 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: No one likes the French Canadians. 472 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: Oh no, I was from Montreal, but my dad was 473 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: an Irish man. He left just as all the Irish 474 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: people are getting out, you know, right, Like you got Whistler, 475 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: You've got Niagara Falls. These are the money shots you 476 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: should have, Ryan Reynolds, like a top of Niagara Falls. 477 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: You can go to the ice hockey, the NBA. 478 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: Like there is so much to do selling doesn't Toronto. 479 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: Edmonton has the world's largest shopping mall. See you should 480 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: So there go fun fact Canada fact for you. 481 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: Rachel mccadams walking into Edmonton Mecca saying, come to Edmonton, 482 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: biggest shopping mall by the way on Canadian Yeah, no vision, Joseph. 483 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: So only I'm going to put the feelers out to 484 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 3: Canadian tourism and I'm going to say that the only 485 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: the biggest growing market apparently is from Mexico. And I 486 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: can understand that's because the Mexicans. You don't want to 487 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: go into the US. 488 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: The US is like a flyer. 489 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: You want to fly over America because you know, if 490 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: you go into America and get arrested, there's no I'm 491 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: pretty sure not getting you deposit back. Oh yeah, but 492 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: I think they've got a target Australia, New Zealand Europe 493 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: as a whole. It's the walls. They're Royster literally and 494 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: they're doing so. 495 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: Canada could do ads for Australia to say, hey, come 496 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: to Canada where basically you, we're. 497 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: Basically you, godam want you all they speak French. Come 498 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: over here where I look at all our movie stars. 499 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: I love it as always, Timmy j. You're an ideas man. 500 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: You are prepared to go where others fear to tread 501 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: and solve the problems that others simply did not even 502 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: realize we're there. 503 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: So if you can talk about Gaza, the National Guard. 504 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: If you can talk about Gaza. 505 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: Within ten minutes, it's just that it's just not doing it. 506 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't find that on another podcast. 507 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: You won't find it anyway. You won't find a Canadian 508 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: tourism mat I tell. 509 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: You ideas mad. Tim Glee said Thanks so much for 510 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: joining us on the Real Story base, and that is 511 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: all we have time for this week. You're welcome Canada, and. 512 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: You'll welcome rest of the world because we have delivered 513 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: planetary peace once again. Drop us a line the Real 514 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: Story at novapodcast dot com dot au or hit me 515 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: up on Instagram at Joe Underscore Hildebrand. 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