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Speaker 1: Hi, Bromwin listeners. It's Claire from The Australian and I'm

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Speaker 1: back in your feed to let you know about a

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Speaker 1: very special series of new episodes we're releasing right now

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Speaker 1: over at bromwinpodcast dot com. These are video only episodes

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Speaker 1: of Bromwyn and they'll take you behind the scenes of

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Speaker 1: the podcast into Headley Thomas's home near Brisbane, where we

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Speaker 1: gathered for two days of conversation and analysis with some

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Speaker 1: of this investigation's most familiar voices.

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Speaker 2: We just can't believe these little one off stories that

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Speaker 2: loving mothers of young children just walk out the door.

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Speaker 1: We talk about where Broman's body might be, how we're

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Speaker 1: going to approach the angles in the episodes ahead, and

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Speaker 1: where this story seems to be leading us.

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Speaker 2: They start asking questions that they really shouldn't be asking

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Speaker 2: and it's really not their business, and to be quite honest,

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Speaker 2: some of these things should not be brought to the forum.

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Speaker 1: Hedley and I are joined by and Ian, Michelle Read,

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Speaker 1: Mattie Walsh, lawyer, Karina Berger and Moore. We're digging through

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Speaker 1: where season two took us and casting forward to some

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Speaker 1: of the big questions we need to answer in season three.

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Speaker 1: To wet your appetite. Here's a little of what you

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Speaker 1: can expect from that video special Life Now at Bromwyn

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Speaker 1: podcast dot com and in Michelle having lived with this

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Speaker 1: for so long. One interpretation of the fact that Bromwin

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Speaker 1: disappeared and that really no proper police work immediately was

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Speaker 1: done to find out where she had gone or what

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Speaker 1: had happened, and not dissimilar to the case of Lynn

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Speaker 1: Sim's in the Teacher's Pet matter, one interpretation of that

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Speaker 1: is that nobody cared, that the police didn't care, that

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Speaker 1: Australia as a society didn't really care about women who

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Speaker 1: went missing. After this investigation, it's very clear that people

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Speaker 1: do care. Hundreds of thousands of people are listening, People

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Speaker 1: are coming forward to help you and to help headily.

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Speaker 1: What does that tell you about Australia and where we

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Speaker 1: are today.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you think about it back thirty one years

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Speaker 3: ago and Bromwin was meant to have walked out the

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Speaker 3: door and got into a car and rung somebody, well,

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Speaker 3: I just find that ludicrous because if she had done that,

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Speaker 3: surely the person who her friend would have let us know.

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Speaker 3: She's never used her bank account and that was a

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Speaker 3: big problem for Bromwin having money. She didn't earn very

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Speaker 3: much and she I don't can't imagine she had access

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Speaker 3: too much and never gone to medicare and never contacted

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Speaker 3: her children who were her world. You know, that is

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing to me, is that she has never

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Speaker 3: contacted her girls.

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Speaker 1: Andy. Has it given you a different understanding of the

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Speaker 1: way Australia perceives women in situations like Bromwin.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say, isn't it, Because whether we're talking

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Speaker 2: about the police or the DPPER. I don't think they've

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Speaker 2: learned too many lessons since ninety three. And I don't

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Speaker 2: mean to be hard on them, but we're in a

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Speaker 2: you know, it's absolute crossist stage at the moment. There's

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Speaker 2: been Walsh marches, representations to various parliament houses and all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things because it's a it's an epidemic and

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Speaker 2: I think I think society has had enough of it.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's getting so much traction. I think eventually

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Speaker 2: they've got to they've got to wake up to himself

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Speaker 2: and they've got to, you know, get active. That I

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Speaker 2: mean that's both that's the police and the DPPRE because

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Speaker 2: you know, we just can't believe these little one off

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Speaker 2: stories that loving mothers of young children just walk out

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Speaker 2: the door. Just doesn't happen. Doesn't happen, not really, not

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Speaker 2: in this world.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 1: The first video episode is available right now at bromwynpodcast

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Speaker 1: dot com and they'll be two more to come very soon.

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Speaker 1: As for season three, well I can tell you it's

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Speaker 1: coming in February right here with the audio episodes, hosted

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Speaker 1: by Headley as usual. To make sure you're the first

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Speaker 1: to watch the video and to hear the new episodes,

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Speaker 1: subscribe now at bromwinpodcast dot com. It's cheapest chips and

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Speaker 1: else under the sun. It's the very best way to

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Speaker 1: support the work of journalists like Headley.

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Speaker 2: There's a powerful case of foul play type wish and

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Speaker 2: then we just want, we want closure, want to be

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Speaker 2: able to find I want to be able to find her.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe now at Bromwin podcast dot com.

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Speaker 2: MHM