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Speaker 1: It is the city and with her with Kate Riki podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's a good song.

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Speaker 2: The process hit song song. The hit song that we

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Speaker 2: are focusing on today is the song Lover by Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift on the album Lover twenty nineteen. My favorite era,

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Speaker 2: the Lover era, also the song that we played at

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Speaker 2: our recent singles party.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, isn't it. It's a great song, It's a great album.

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Speaker 2: Everybody loved it.

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Speaker 3: Didn't that easy to dance to slow waltz.

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Speaker 2: So we're dissecting this song. Taylor Swift will help us out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's kick it off. Where did the inspiration come from

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Speaker 2: for the song Lover?

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Speaker 4: It was I was in bed. I was in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: I got out of bed. I think it was really

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Speaker 4: late at night, like stumbled over to the piano. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so I have this idea that's like obviously I don't

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Speaker 4: know the verse whatever yet, but I have a pretty cool,

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Speaker 4: really simple, beautiful chorus idea called lover cuous.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, isn't it? And in the in the chorus,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just full of questions. She's asking questions

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Speaker 2: the whole time. She was asked why the chorus is

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Speaker 2: full of those questions.

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Speaker 4: I wanted the chorus to be these like really simple

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Speaker 4: existential questions that we ask ourselves when we're in love.

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Speaker 4: Can I go where you go? It's such a heavy

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Speaker 4: thing to ask somebody. Can Can we always be this close?

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Speaker 4: Has so much fear in it, But so does love.

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Speaker 1: Can mean?

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Speaker 3: You sound like an lacino if you're saying, can I

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Speaker 3: go where you go? Excuse me?

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Speaker 4: Excuse me?

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Speaker 3: Can I go where you go?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well now, but in your mind you're thinking that when

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Speaker 2: you're in the honeymoon period. The other one is no

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Speaker 2: many We don't really use the word lover that much

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Speaker 2: do we love her? You always feel like lover is

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Speaker 2: sort of a part time kind of lover, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, yeah, on the side, Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't look at You've always been bj Is, Well, she's

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Speaker 2: my your lover, but I've never called her my lover.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a shit, know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Actually, Taylors, we've felt awkward thinking about that word lover

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: I've always liked that word, but I've never used it

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Speaker 4: in like in everyday life when people are like, that's

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Speaker 4: my lover over there, or calling each other a lover. Like,

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Speaker 4: I've never done that, but I've always loved it. In

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Speaker 4: the context of poetry or songs.

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Speaker 5: It's a polarizing word. Like some people are like, oh,

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Speaker 5: that word like gives me the creeps.

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Speaker 4: Well, anything I do is polarizing, So you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to use it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get home tonight and say how I

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Speaker 3: love her and you're weird, and I'll go can I

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Speaker 3: go where you go?

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Speaker 2: I mean in songs, it does. It's a great word

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Speaker 2: to use in songs. This Jack Antonoff helped her out

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Speaker 2: on this song, and we know how talented that man

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Speaker 2: as well. You know, when she's sitting at a piano

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Speaker 2: and she's just in Nashville and she just comes up

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Speaker 2: with something like that, you know you actually have to

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Speaker 2: add to the song. It's really fascinating that they wanted

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Speaker 2: to turn it into like a wedding song. I haven't

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Speaker 2: listened to how the process of how that came together.

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Speaker 4: I love a bridge so much. I love trying to

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Speaker 4: take the song to a higher level. With the bridge.

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Speaker 4: There's these sort of pan plucking strings and these kind

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Speaker 4: of flutes that they're popping out. I wanted it to be,

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Speaker 4: you know, the first time we introduced the idea of

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Speaker 4: like vows make.

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Speaker 2: It feel like a little wedding, lay.

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Speaker 4: Days and gentlemen, will you please dad. I love to

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Speaker 4: take a common phrase and twist it so the bridge.

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Speaker 4: I took all these common phrases that we say about weddings,

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Speaker 4: well every gets austring Scott on my head. I like

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Speaker 4: to add something that changes the phrase.

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Speaker 2: This I see you know it is. It is a

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Speaker 2: cheesy song in a way when you I mean, but

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Speaker 2: you know what, she doesn't. This is what I love

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Speaker 2: about Taylor Swift. She just doesn't care what anyone thinks.

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Speaker 4: You know, even if anybody had been like I don't

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Speaker 4: think this one's great, I would have been like, well,

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Speaker 4: I reject your feedback because I love this one.

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Speaker 5: She's good.

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Speaker 3: She wouldn't have put it out if she wouldn't love it.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's interesting. When we spoke to Ryan

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Speaker 3: Tedder the other day when we're right, he was the

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Speaker 3: one that said, I've never seen anything in my life

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Speaker 3: like Taylor Swift when it comes to writing music. He said,

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Speaker 3: I can't keep up. He said, Taylor Swift ed Sheer

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Speaker 3: and Paul McCartney. He said, I can't keep up when

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Speaker 3: I'm in the studio with those guys. Because there's such

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Speaker 3: masters of writing music.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably put Paul McCartney up above.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was the first. I mean, I'm not Ryan Tedder,

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Speaker 3: but that's what he said, so I'm just sharing what

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Speaker 3: he said. You're on the same interview, So yeah, feedback

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Speaker 3: on this segment. Great to learn about our music. Terrible intro.

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Speaker 2: This is the Fitzi and Whipper with Cape Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: The process song. Got a bit of advice from the

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Speaker 2: team today to get rid of the intro there.

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Speaker 3: How did that song to be?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I think we might be changing

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Speaker 2: it next week. That the song that we are focusing

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Speaker 2: on today is by darf Punk. It's Get Lucky. What

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Speaker 2: a great song is that? That is for our Williams's voice.

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Speaker 3: We've got the wrong song.

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Speaker 6: What am I that you?

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Speaker 2: Oh music monster?

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Speaker 1: That was.

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Speaker 3: Bad line lines with who Dark Funks right at the grind.

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Speaker 2: Of all time?

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Speaker 5: Sorry guy.

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Speaker 2: The riff that you can hear in the background is

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Speaker 2: Nile Rogers now right. Nile Rodgers is a legend of

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Speaker 2: the industry, an unbelievable guitarist. He was in the band

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Speaker 2: Chic as well, but he talks about coming up what

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Speaker 2: unique guitar he used to come up with that riff.

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Speaker 1: The distinctive linear lick was coming from the plexiglass guitar

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Speaker 1: which began to get up the lane to get lucky, right,

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Speaker 1: So how do I not play that lick? I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the song would have.

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Speaker 5: Been called, and I don't know what for l were.

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Speaker 2: To say, So, so that guitar riff. This is the

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Speaker 2: first session right then they started doing it and have

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Speaker 2: a listen to the reaction of Nile Rogers and the

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Speaker 2: French duo Daft Punk in the background. After it happens,

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Speaker 2: they know that they're on to a winner. That must

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Speaker 2: be a great feeling when you record it and you go,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, it just works. So Pharrell Williams was

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Speaker 2: asked to work on this. Random Access Memories was the

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Speaker 2: album for Daft Punk, and he was asked to work

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Speaker 2: on it, and he was like freaking out because Daft

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Speaker 2: Punk has this amazing reputation. So he rocks up to

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Speaker 5: It's crazy because I just didn't know what it was

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Speaker 5: going to turn into. Now it was me singing. That

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Speaker 5: threw me off too. I was like, yo, I thought

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Speaker 5: somebody else was gonna sing, and they were like, nah, you.

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Speaker 5: I loved the studio thing. Okay, I can't wait to

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Speaker 5: see who sings in what it sounds like. I didn't

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Speaker 5: hear it for like a year, so I forgot when

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Speaker 5: the song sounded like both of them.

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Speaker 2: So he he went in there and recorded all that,

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Speaker 2: and then for a year he doesn't hear from Darft Punk. Wow,

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Speaker 2: he forgot what the song actually sounded like. He has

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Speaker 2: no idea. He goes back in a year later, and

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Speaker 2: this was his reaction when he hears the song.

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Speaker 5: N Wow, good that's my only word.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: It's better than good.

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Speaker 2: It's just crazy. Then he talks about the process of

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Speaker 2: Daft Punk and how they put music together, and it's

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Speaker 2: just it just blows his mind. This is for real.

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Speaker 5: I never went in there, you know, to perfect it.

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Speaker 5: He continued to push me, so it might have been written,

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Speaker 5: but he's like, Okay, now recorded again, Okay, cool, now

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Speaker 5: recorded again, Okay cool take this again, Okay, cool stat

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Speaker 5: this again. Okay do it again, do it again, do

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Speaker 5: it again. It was like over and over and over

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Speaker 5: and over again. Which is the right way to do

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Speaker 5: it right. You get all the nuts out, And for me,

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Speaker 5: that's what I learned, and working with the robots now

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Speaker 5: I understand the value of it, the value of just

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Speaker 5: taking the time that iron it out. That's the difference

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Speaker 5: between a human and a robot.

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Speaker 2: He calls him the robots. The last grab I'm going

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Speaker 2: to play you is David Getter met daft Punk and

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Speaker 2: he talks and he's talking about the genius of daft Punk,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, he's one of the biggest DJs in

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Speaker 2: the world, but he looks up to daft Punk so much,

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Speaker 2: and he talks about a fleeting moment that he had

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Speaker 5: Have a listen.

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Speaker 6: I remember visiting Punk for the first time. I remember

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Speaker 6: being completely depressed. I'm like, there is the studio and

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Speaker 6: they're like, this is our studio and it was the

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Speaker 6: two small Mackie mixes, adepfore for the effects and one compressor.

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Speaker 6: They had nothing. I was like, you do homework with that.

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Speaker 6: They're like yeah, and now come on. Then I remember

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Speaker 6: coming home like I suck, I have little talent. I

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Speaker 6: felt so bad. It was just okay and the nable talents.

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