1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the show. It's better than yesterday. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: It's Monday. It's the Question Answer edition with me, Osha 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Ginsburg and my wife Griffin, whose alarm went off seven 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: hours ago as we were actually nine thirty in the morning. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Jesus sounds thank you for doing this. You're about to 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: have it now. 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have another job this afternoon. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Other job is up. So we've got some questions today, 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: getting to know your questions. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Can you sing the song? 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sing on I think we might 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: get copyrighted if I sing that song. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was like a certain time. 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: Now not with that with Rogers and Hammerstein or any 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: of those guys whoever wrote that. We can't affoord that 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: because I don't know. Okay, I'll play some ads. We'll 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: be right back. Yeah, okaday. Welcome to the show. This 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: is Petitent Yesterday, making better every episode since twenty thirteen. 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm Wash Ginsburg. I'm a podcaster, I'm a TV host. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm an author. Someone who's just signed a new book. Congratulations, 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: congratulations to you, two books back to back and literally 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with that piffle. I shaid you 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: this yesterday. You do have a lot to do with it. 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Your support, don't talk over me. Your support, your belief, 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: your faith in me has an enormous role in me 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: going yes, I'm pitching you this book and I believe 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I can write it. I have no idea I'm going 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: to be able to do it, but yes, And then 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: they go, Okay, we believe you. Now just do it. 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: So I couldn't do that without you. 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: I believe you can. But thank you for the unnecessary credit. 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: It's not unnecessary, but because it's what's true for me, 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. If you don't tell me what's 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: true for me. 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you what's true. I'm telling you what's 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: true for me, honestly. Sorry, people, this is welcome to therapy, 37 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: the unsupervised therapy that we probably. 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Should not have probably not. Now. We have got questions. 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: In fact, we've got a bunch of questions this week, 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: but there was one group of questions that came in 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: from one person that I thought might be interesting for 42 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: us to go through. 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, do you want me to start? Yeah, okay, little 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: These are questions from Zara from Sunshine Coast, Queensland. 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's go, like, there's about five of them. 46 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you do? You want me to 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: group them? 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: No, just let's go one by one. Soarah got in 49 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: touch on the substack, which is actual Againstberg got substack 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: dot com and she threw these towards us, and then 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: I think they're about us and each other. Yes, and yeah, 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: it's quite interesting. 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Okay, are you okay to do? Yes? 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: Are you well? 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: I've had all sorts of things revealed about me in 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: many different avenues formats, so with all without my permission. 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: Some of those things have been redacted and adapted. 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Anyway, I'm fine 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: with it. There's nothing here that I wouldn't say to 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: you or someone else's true in front of you. So 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: let's roll right. First one, what is your biggest turn on? 62 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Turn on? What like sex or I don't know, I'm 63 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: not sorry, is what do you think? Well? 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean let's start with emotions, because that's the 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: most important thing in a relationship. 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: It is certainly at some point, at some point you 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: have you know, my teenage self would never believe this, 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: but at some point you have enough sex to go. 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having a chat once you've done with 70 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: this part because I'm interested in talking. Do you like, 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: at some point you're going to stop fucking and are 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: you're going to need to talk? Yeah, and you're going 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: to need but hopefully the person will have something interesting 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: and engaging to say, because once you get past the 75 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: genital bits of your body being aroused by their mere presence, 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: they start to not work unless your brain is aroused 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: as well. 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: That's very. 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Feminine of you, I think, but it's true though for 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: men as well, Like, like, how many guys, the amount 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: of guys I know that have relationships. I'm not going 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: to say their names, but there's two men that you know, 83 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: I know when you know both of them like five 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: months max, right, and then like I don't know who 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: this one is, but she looks the same as the 86 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: last one, and I'm not gonna it's great to see 87 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 1: you because I don't know if I've met them before. 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Oh right, right, Yeah, clicks, because at some point you've 89 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 3: got to do some talking, stuffy, and sometimes when the 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: talking stuff starts, then the penie goes what I'm out? 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the brain is the greatest sexual organ, biggest. 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: It's probably the heaviest. 93 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: I'm going it's your biggest. 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, kindness would be my biggest turn on, certainly when 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: it came to you, Okay, that was that was the 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: thing for me. It was kindness. And what was wild 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: is the other night when we were watching did he 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: or didn't he? With Jake Jillenhall, Yes, when he was 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: asked what point did you? I wanted to go from 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: being an affair physical affair to an emotional affair, and 101 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: he was watching the woman be maternal. I don't want 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: to spoil anything, but that's the photo I have on 103 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: my desk right there. You see it. You remember that day? Yes, 104 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you're doing George's hair? Was that moment I was like, 105 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: oh I'm done? That was it? Yeah? But everything else 106 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: in that I related to that part, not the everything 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: else about that character. 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Oh right, you weren't having an affair with with the 109 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: prosecutor and lawyer colleague. Well that's good. 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: What about you turn on? 111 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say I'd say personality, not. 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Necessarily elements of a personality. 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: I guess it is kindness again, isn't it? 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 4: And then. 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 2: Probably fun Yeah, if someone is fun, not necessarily funny? 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: What two of my nostrils are portraying me? 117 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: Out? 118 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: There my flaring nostrils because I want to ask then 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: with that, yes, then what's it like when you're seeing 120 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: our youngest kid, Wolfgang do things like at the age 121 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of three, pulling out of our driveway, putting on the 122 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: GPS seeing that it's nine hundred and eighty five kilometers 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: to Bribey Island. 124 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: Yes, we are. 125 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Forty seven meters down the road at three in the 126 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: morning to drive into state. He says, are we there yet? 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Wait two seconds and says, how about now? Like he's three? Yeah, 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: gags like that. How does that make you feel as fun? 129 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so proud of him. Yeah, he'll do well. 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: He'll do well. 131 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: Last night his oh my god, Oh I just thought 132 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: it's too soon. 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: No, like, really, he's five now. He is definitely your kid. 134 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: You made the most delicious vegetable soup before you went 135 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: off to work. You pulled a massive shift yesterday, and 136 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: before you went off to work. He chopped the boys 137 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: edges and put him on and blitzed it and then 138 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: let us sit and he came he was in bed, 139 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and you came in to read him stories. 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: I can't even I can't even deal. And he said, Mum, 141 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: dinner tonight was super. 142 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Get it and then get it. Oh my god. 143 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: And the worst part was that I thought I was like, oh, 144 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: that's great, I'm glad. I was about to say that. 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: I was in the middle of saying that, and then 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: I looked at his face and at your face and 147 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: realized that, oh no, the dad jokes are clearly. 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: And you had you had like an optic nerves braining 149 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: eye roll with such enormity and then cackle. Oh my god, 150 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: he's delight making you grown an eye roll was yeah, yeah, 151 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: it was perfect. Oh man, perfect. 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: Now conversely, what is your biggest turn off, either sexually 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: or emotionally or just sorry, I. 154 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Touched the microphone. My biggest turn off back in the day, 155 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: it used to be smoking, but that quickly became secondary 156 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: to the lower parts of my body taking control and 157 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: going you'll be all right with the breath, You'll be okay. 158 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't bad enough. Well that's not a turn off. 159 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: Then that's just a mild obstacle. 160 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: But it was a Jesus smoker there was. I was 161 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a young guy, and then I was like, ah, well 162 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: she's in, I'm in, let's go oh like that. But 163 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I guess like that. 164 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and now that is not as prevalent. 165 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: I think it would be the converse. I think it 166 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: would be unkindness because and it's it was the anthropological 167 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: observation of everybody on the dating shows that I worked 168 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: on Batching Paradise Bachelorette when everyone was hot, right, so 169 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: they're always being the hottest person in the room. That 170 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: never had to work beyond that because I had this superpower, right, 171 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: And now they're in a room with everybody else who's 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: also hot. And if they hadn't ever done the work 173 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: or known how to connect with someone, all I've got 174 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: is how kind into unkind they are. And it was 175 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: really fascinating how and on that show, like they cast 176 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: it pretty well, there's guys who are fucking smoking hot 177 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: and women who are smoking hot, but the moment that 178 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: an unkind word comes out of their mouth, it's just 179 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: like instantly takes all of the shine, not the shiny 180 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: forehead shine, but like all but all of the the 181 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: years of training and gymnastics or what to dance, whatever 182 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: it is they've done to get this banging situation going on, 183 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: and the genetics of their cheekbones to chin ratio and 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: all whatever made it vanish like that for you? For me? Yeah, 185 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: what about you? 186 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: Arrogans? 187 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Arrogance? And how did you end up marrying? I actually 188 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: am not sure you fooled me. Uh huh. 189 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, here we are. 190 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: At let's do one more and we take a break. 191 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Oh one more question? Yeah, yeah, okay, I thought, what 192 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: another turn off? Because I could keep going, all right, fine, 193 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: what is your love language? 194 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: I don't like that question? What's her name? Zara? Why not? 195 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: Because what's wrong with it? Because it's an oversimplification of 196 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: what's an ultimately very complicated thing. And the whole thing 197 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: is based upon a very very small cohort. The whole 198 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: book essentially is basically on a really small cohort of 199 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: one group of people who all went to the same 200 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: church in one particular part of America. So they're all white, 201 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: they're all upper middle class, they're all of the similar 202 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: background that all their parents knew each other, and so 203 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't have a it doesn't quite encompass everything, and 204 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: so it's being debunked. The whole love language is thing. 205 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: There's way more than five, of course, but unfortunately people go, oh, 206 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I don't have his quality time and imacts of service. 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: So it's not going to ever work. Like no, people 208 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: have broken up and shit over this, but it's not 209 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: fair because it's not real. Okay, So my love language 210 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. It's just being seen and recognized. That's it. 211 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: That's not Is that for you or is that how 212 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: you communicate love? 213 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: That's how I receive it? Yeah, And how do you 214 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: communicate it? I communicate by doing things for you and 215 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: my family? 216 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: By things? Do you mean like you work by like 217 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: like financial security, providing providing. 218 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, security, yeah, financially I feel that. And you know, 219 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: I've got g to blame for this because not long 220 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: after I met her, when she was ten, it was 221 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: just like, oh oh wow, every dollar I earn is 222 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: now just to make everything that you want the world 223 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: to come for you and have every possibility open for 224 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: you that you ah, And that was it. I just 225 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: want to kind of. 226 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's very sweet, but I don't know. 227 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: If it's I don't worry. I benefit from it as well, 228 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: because to do that, I need to ascend in my career. 229 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: But I'm not doing it for me, No, No, I'm 230 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: doing it to provide for you and for her and 231 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: for Wolf. I get about lighted for as well. Don't worry, 232 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: but yes, for all of us. 233 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: But you must also get some personal satisfaction in. 234 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Work. I get personal satisfaction in the work. I don't 235 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: get a huge amount of personal satisfaction and the accumulation 236 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: of money, but I'm grateful that I do because that 237 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: is the thing that can directly translate into a better 238 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: quality of life for the people I love. 239 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's very nice of you. 240 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: It's what it is. Yeah, how about you? 241 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: How I receive or what i've I guess if you're 242 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: you're right, it's like, what do I value? 243 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: What makes me feel loved? 244 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 245 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Definitely quality time? Well what's your version of quality time? 246 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: My version of quality time is being with someone who's present. Yeah, 247 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who, like, whether it's you know, my family, 248 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: my you, my friends. Being with people who are present 249 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: with me at that time. Yeah, that means a lot 250 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: because it I think for me, time is the most 251 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: valuable thing. 252 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: That we have. No one'll combine more of it, no. 253 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: And so if you're going to be if I'm going 254 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: to be spending my time with you, I want to 255 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: make it worth your while. 256 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: But also I would like to you. 257 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Know, feel rewarded by that time. 258 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Spent together as well, and you show love so many ways. 259 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm just such a loving person. 260 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: You know you are. I know, I just think silly. 261 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm a feeder. 262 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: I want people to feel good and makes me feel 263 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: good to make people feel good, So that's how I 264 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: communicate love. 265 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: What questions are we going to answer on the other 266 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: side of the brain. 267 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: What's the very first thing you noticed about each other? 268 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: And in what ways do you feel like you've grown from, 269 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: from or during this relationship. 270 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad we have some commercial to think about this. Yes, 271 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: let's take notes. Thanks for listening, and thank you to 272 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Zara from the Sunshine Coast who has given us these 273 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: questions today. She came in on the substack or she 274 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: Gainsberg got substack dot com. I've got the link in 275 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: the show notes. Sara's next question. 276 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: Is, what's the very first thing you noticed about each other? 277 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: Got your Disney Princess eyes and your unbelievable hot pants. 278 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: They weren't hot pants. 279 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: They were not hot pants. 280 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: They were hot and they were pants. 281 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: They were shorts. 282 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: There were lever shorts. They were hot and banging. Okay, 283 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: beautiful Disney Princess eyes and like, oh my godnessill, I've 284 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: still got those shorts. That's another name for pirate treasure, 285 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: right there, booty ha ha. It's true anyway. Okay, So 286 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: and it was rocking everywhere. 287 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh god, I'm so sorry. 288 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: I am. All I want for my birthday is two Jane's. 289 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was a good track, it is. 290 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: And I do like that we do that with each other, 291 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: you know, communicate in verse from cross rooms, yeah, or 292 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: just anything random. But I don't know if everyone else 293 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: shares in that. 294 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: They might communicate in lines from Gilmore girls. Okay, I 295 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: would go right over my head, but good on them. Yeah, 296 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: well that means that requires. 297 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: Wow, that requires a definite Olshaginsberg memory. 298 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And where did you meet comic on? Yeah? 299 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: All right, yeah, well okay, so it was my eyes 300 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: and my ass. 301 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. We're visual creatures, all right. I cannot assess your 302 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: personality from across the room, but I can see. Oh 303 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: my goodness. 304 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, good to know that at least my eyes made 305 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 2: the made the list for me, it was your brain. 306 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: I was very sweaty. 307 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I was quite distracted because I had somehow 308 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: managed to pour my coffee into my handbag as you 309 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: had arrived. 310 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Ye, so. 311 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: I did not. 312 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: Sneaking it in like trying to sneak vodka into an 313 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: undrange disco. You're sneaking a coffee on the set by 314 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: pouring it into your head. 315 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell I was doing, but 316 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: it just it kind of just slipped, and I had 317 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: one of those biggish bags and anyway, it filled it up. 318 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: It was inconvenient. 319 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: And I did notice you were in lycra and it 320 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: was like dayglow yellow. 321 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: I had some your I was wearing the hot pants. 322 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: Yes, you had the hot pants on, you know, bum 323 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: padding and all. But it was more the conversations that 324 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: we had from the get go that I really that 325 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 2: I noticed. I was like, oh, that's a surprise. I 326 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: wasn't expecting that from you. So yeah, so I'm clearly 327 00:18:52,960 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: the better person because I went for personality. Yeah, always, always, always, yes, always. 328 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: Do you want to do the next one? 329 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: Shall we do the next? 330 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the last one, it's our last one. 331 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: In what ways do you feel like you've grown from 333 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: or during this relationship? So let's go with how have 334 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: you grown from this relationship? 335 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Well, As I mentioned earlier, the reason that I go 336 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: to work and the reason I do work is very different. Now. 337 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: There was very much an idea of for a while there. Yeah, 338 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: job satisfaction, but also material gain. You know that I 339 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: had a for a while there, certainly, like after I 340 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: got sober, it had changed quite a bit, but I 341 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: still was pretty I had a concern of outward opinion 342 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: and that I would be able to show through having 343 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: this particular thing or thatarticular thing, that I had some 344 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: level of status. That changed quite a bit once I 345 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: met you, guys, and I mean you it seems obvious, 346 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: but I grew up in a very different household to you, 347 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know things like don't eat the last apple, 348 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: all right, I've got to make a school lunch tomorrow 349 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: and I needed that. So before you eat the last 350 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: of anything, just ask me. That makes sense. So things 351 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: like that have helped me a lot to be more 352 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: mindful of other people in the house, because I've also 353 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: been living alone for quite a while before we met. Yeah, 354 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: and I was not saying I was a hermit, but 355 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: I didn't speak to anybody or anyone outside of my 356 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: sobriety meetings and yeh, so I was getting back up 357 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: to speed with my. 358 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: Living in a but it's it's different living with like 359 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 5: flatmates or yeah, to living with a family, you know, 360 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: and you kind of added water an instant family, So yeah, 361 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: that was that would have been hard. 362 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I've become a lot less reactive, and 363 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: I've worked really hard to do that. 364 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: Around eating the last half. 365 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: Around like say, when we're in a conflict, like I 366 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: shuddered to think about the height of tantrum as I 367 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: have thrown in front of you, all right, and the 368 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: enormously childish behavior on my part, And I've come to 369 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: recognize that sometimes when I get that reactive, I just 370 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: it's really important that I just maintain down regulation and 371 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: keep eating and keep calm. And sometimes I don't get 372 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: a chance to do it. Sometimes it gets in front 373 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: of you. But I'm definitely not as explosive as I 374 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: have been. 375 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: So that's from enduring. 376 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how about you. 377 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: I think I've become more comfortable with being with other 378 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: people's emotions, as in that they don't belong to me 379 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: and they're not my thing to solve. Because that was 380 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: something that you know clearly was a habit of mine. 381 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: I have grown physically. My pants you speak of don't 382 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: fit anymore. So I blame you for that, because you know, 383 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: you feel safe and secure in a relationship and next thing, 384 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: you're hot pants. 385 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: Can only fit on your head. I also one thing 386 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: that you definitely changed your use of multiicill big words. 387 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 388 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Early on we have conversations and it was almost like 389 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: you were simplifying your language, and occasionally, every now and again, 390 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, a really good bit of a cavilar war throughout. 391 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: I was like, please talk more like that. That's good. 392 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: So are you saying I don't do that anymore? 393 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you do. But there was early on 394 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: you you spoke in a very simplified way, and I 395 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: remember clearly saying, I really like it when you use 396 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: big words. And I think it had been something that 397 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: you had adjusted about yourself. Yeah, I don't know. It 398 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: was a weird thing that I decided to do to 399 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: not be the one that got into, you know, the 400 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: exceptional high school and do Biotechnic university because I was 401 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: super brainy. 402 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 5: I'm not. 403 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm not super brain I'd love like, I'm not stupid 404 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: or unintelligent anyway. The point that I'm trying to make 405 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: is I don't know why I did that. Used to 406 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: do that all the time. I don't really do it anymore. 407 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 2: I think that comes with age and growing and also 408 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: being like I was always very comfortable being myself with you. 409 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, even the geeky Oh yeah. 410 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: I like big words sometimes, but I also have a 411 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: body mouse and I can just you know, it's all 412 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: single syllable words joined together that will burn your ears. 413 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: I'm good at that as well. 414 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: I was very excited last night speaking of things that 415 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: have grown. It's the first time in my life that 416 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: I pulled on a T shirt and it was tied 417 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: around my neck. That's never happened before. No, never. I've 418 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: never gotten bigger there first. 419 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh, neck first. 420 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I've always gotten bigger waist first. Yeah. I've 421 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: never gotten bigger neck first. And the only reason I'm 422 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: getting bigger neck first because I'm doing heaps of shrugs 423 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: at the gym, bro, because your get I love your 424 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: workout plan. In fact, I even made a single with 425 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: your workout plan written on it. Workout goal, Yeah, I was. 426 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: It was when I was training in the backyard during COVID. 427 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: You just pat me on the butt as I was 428 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: on my way out and you said, less neck, more peck, 429 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: And ever since then that's my goal. I've even like 430 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: the workout plan I'm doing right now. I've I've got 431 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: offer a large language model, which is, you know, trained 432 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: in all kinds of exercise, physiology and extode science. And 433 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: I literally wrote that in there, I want to less neck, 434 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: more peck. What do I do? And it's spat out this. Yeah, yeah, 435 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: that is working good on you. But that's also the 436 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: feeding because I can't get Yeah, you need to eat 437 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: if you can't get mass, if you don't eat, no. 438 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: And yeah, you have to eat a variety. 439 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Because of your quality. That's the big thing that's changed 440 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: about Mesons met you. I was very happy to eat 441 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: exactly the same meal for dinner every single We can't 442 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: have that, and I did. I know, there's no problem, and. 443 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: It's so so like like it's good in some ways 444 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 2: that I don't have to like it's not like I 445 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: have to think of a new meal every single day 446 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: and you'll happily eat, But you can't eat it every 447 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: single day because then you're nutritionally like. 448 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: You changed a little bit a bit of stuff in here, 449 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: you add some salt. You can change. You can change 450 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: your tofu for your change your bees. 451 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: I was, mate, I've watched you eat tortillas with peanut 452 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: butter and a banana like I don't know how many times, 453 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: like add some cinnamon or perhaps it's a drizzle of. 454 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: Maple syrup or I don't know, almond butters for change apple. 455 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: I do that sometimes. Yeah, okay, I have a wider 456 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: variety of protein. 457 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: It really concerns me that sometimes you're nutritionally deficient and 458 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: that you don't notice. 459 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: You've shown me a lot as the daughter of a 460 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: clinical dietitian. You've shown me a lot and that I'm 461 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: grateful for. Thanks for joining me, and I think you 462 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: should go to bed now. 463 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it is sleep time. 464 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: It is sleep time. Thanks for listening. 465 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: This episode was brought to you by Andy Maher on 466 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: audio post production, Beck Syed on video post production, Toe 467 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: Hyder on music, and OSHA's executive function assistant is Monica Chapman. 468 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: For every episode ever. To get on the mailing list 469 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 4: or to get in touch, head to Osheginsburg dot com.