1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: On scorn Us Australia. This is the winder Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, One Nation sets its sights on David 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Little Proud's seat. Patrick Carline and Michael Danby will join 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 3: me on the panel to cover the day's top headlines. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 3: Business leader Chris Ghana why he's fighting back against the 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: corporate world's anti Australia Day push. Liberal Party backs Labour's 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Haste Speech bill despite gaping flaws. Professor Johanna Howe explains 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: why the bill will do more harm than good, and 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: a top Us drama is taking on woke culture head 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: on I'll get Kosher Gator's reaction to Landman tackling the 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 3: excesses of the trans movement, and later in the hour, 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: comic Alex Stein explains why he's personally agreed about Nicholas 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: Maduro's arrest and left He's losing It features this arming lady. 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: You can just kill ACE agents. You know that you 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: can just kill them. They don't have to hold your 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 4: phone in their face. 18 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: But first, Pauline Hanson will attempt to unseat David Little 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: Proud at the next federal election. As One Nation looks 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: to grow their presence in Queensland. It comes just two 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: months after One Nation secured Little Proud's predecessor, Barnaby Joyce. 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: As We're reported last night, the latest News poll has 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: One Nation ahead of the Coalition in primary votes. A 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: senior One Nation source told News Corps the party had 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: finalized and agreement for an office space in the town 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 3: of long Reach, which is within the. 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: Little Proud's electorate. 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Poulleen Hanson was asked whether One Nation could become a 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: viable alternative government at the next election. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 5: I think what Australia is lacking now with both the 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: major political parties is leadership and people have got to 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 5: a stage they're fed up enough both putting us at 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: twenty two percent of the national poll at the moment 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: that says I've got a hell of a job ahead 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 5: to give me with my other colleagues, and we've got 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: to maintain that support and confidence from the Austraian people 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 5: that we can hopefully form government and too right, I 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 5: want to do it. 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: Joining me now as News Corps senior writer Patrick Carline 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: and former Labor MP Michael Danby, Patrick David littl Proud 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: holds a very comfortable margins around twenty percent. There was 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: a small swing to one nation to the last federal 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: election in his seat. Can they realistically unseat him? 44 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 6: Probably not, to be honest, twenty percent is a lot, 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 6: but it's what it symbolizes. If you look at that pole, 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 6: it found that almost one in two Australian voters intend 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 6: not to. 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Vote for either the Labor or the Liberal Party. 49 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 6: That's one in two who won't vote for the government 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 6: in power of the day. And we're seeing that fragmentation. 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 6: We're seeing it with the Greens previously, but it's all 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 6: going to one nation at the moment. 53 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Those numbers are huge. 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 6: The Liberals are in disarray and it's part of an 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 6: international trend as well. If you look at Britain you 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 6: see all those Conservative defections to reform. 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean there is a real right leading push. 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,559 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 3: I mean it's been apparent Michael. Internationally, the Liberal Party, 60 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: the Coalition have missed it. We've spoken about it on 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: this program for years, the fact that there are so 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: many people in this country who feel they're not properly represented. 63 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: And I think the Tories found that out in the UK, 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: the Libs learned zero lessons. If they remain weak and 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: direction lists, could you see one Nation gaining even greater popularity, 66 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: perhaps snatching a few more National MPs, and down the 67 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: track possibly a coalition between One Nation and the Nationals. 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 7: I think it's more likely that One Nation's influence will 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 7: grow in the Senate. I'm not sure because of our 70 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 7: preference system, that's where that we were going to see 71 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 7: one Nation win that many lower house seats, although I 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 7: think they will win some. Most significant thing about this 73 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 7: news poll and the Channel nine pole is that shows 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 7: if you combine the One Nation and Liberal National Party 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 7: vote that they've gone up several percent. The government is unpopular, 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 7: so I still think Albow with his ninety five seat 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 7: majority is likely to win, but he might get a 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 7: big shock with a very big swing at the next 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 7: election and Rita. The real thing to look for is 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 7: One Nation having the swing factor in the Senate. I 81 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 7: could see them getting as many as ten or maybe 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 7: twelve senators. 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: Well, when you saw that Demo's pole that came out 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: about a week before News poll, which also had One 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: Nation ahead of the coalition in the primary vote, they 86 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: looked at the two party preferred and when it was 87 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: Labor and One Nation, it was fifty to fifty. When 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: it was Labor and the Coalition, it was fifty two 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: forty eight in Labour's favor. 90 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: So we are seeing things. 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: I think a few years ago you would have never 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: thought a party like Reform could be created and be viable, 93 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: and here we are. Nigel Farage could be the next 94 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: Prime Minister of Britain and could pull in hands on 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: one day be Prime Minister. 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a big apple. 97 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean, she's in the Senate, but I could see 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: your having. 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 7: A majority in the Senate and determining Australian policy like 100 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 7: the Greens do with Labor. You know, they could easily 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 7: have ten or twelve senators and say to the Liberal 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 7: National Party or you have to go more right Woods. 103 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Well, the Greens have pulled both the Libs and Labor 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: to the left for many years, so perhaps there's need 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: for a correction now. Last week we saw the chaos 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: of the Adelaide Writers Week. The festival backflipped on its 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: decision to uninvite anti Israeli author Randa Abdelhatar and in 108 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: the end. 109 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: Issued her an apology. 110 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: Michael, we had dozens of writers pulled out in protest. 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 3: We even had the former New Zealand Prime Minister just 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: Dern pull out. How do you see this saga and 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: how it concluded? 114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: And also including. 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: Louise Adler's role in the whole catastrophe. 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: She was the director of Adelaide Writer's week. 117 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 7: I think it's sad to see that these people who 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 7: are the main perpetrators of censorship and hate speech turning 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 7: themselves into victims. If you watch the ABC and listen 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 7: to the Guardian, that's what they've become. They've changed the 121 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 7: narrative completely. In fact, they're the ones who excluded Tom Friedman, 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 7: the former agent to Michael Gwenda, has been trying to 123 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 7: get a guernsey at. 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: The Adelaide Writers' Festival. 125 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 7: He put it in the Weekend Australian this weekend couldn't 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 7: get a guernsey. The twenty four Jewish women have written 127 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 7: that really good book on the last two years called Ruptured, 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 7: Never Invited and Runder Rabbel Fattara. Apparently at the Perth 129 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 7: Riders Festival tried to exclude the musician Deborah Conway. So 130 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 7: the boots really on the foot and Comrade Adler is 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 7: really asked, been asked by the Premier and the Adelaide 132 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 7: Writers Board to be a bit more balanced, have a 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 7: few different people, that's the way we should do it, 134 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 7: you know. But she's refused, and she's stayed these provocations 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 7: and thanks to the mainstream media, she's been able to 136 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 7: turn herself into a martyr. 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: But these writers' festivals, Patrick, really are just left wing 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: talk fest. I was going to use a less polite 139 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: term than that, but really it's not about celebrating diversity 140 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: of thought or debate or even the best writers in 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: the country. It is a lefty talk fest, often funded 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: by our taxes, and. 143 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: It's often about activism. 144 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 6: It's about ideology rather than good writing or a difference 145 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 6: of ideas. And Michael, you put it very nicely. I mean, 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 6: what's happened here is you've got this very. 147 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: In. 148 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: The fashionable pro Palestine riders are in, the activists are in, 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 6: and a lot of really good writers have been sort 150 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 6: of completely booted off the schedule altogether in a way 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 6: that's not healthy. 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: There should be. 153 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 6: Lots of different views and there should be good debates, 154 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 6: and that's not happening. 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: It is not And Peter Malinascus, I think one a 156 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: few fans by backing the removal or Abdol Fhatar has 157 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: also caught a lot of criticism for it, but I 158 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: think in the end he's come out on the right 159 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: side there, Michael. 160 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 7: But what a weak board to disinvite then reinvited her. 161 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 7: Don't they have any principles? Don't they see what Runda 162 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 7: Abba Fatara is written? Don't they see what comrade Adler 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 7: was up to the whole time. I mean it's clear 164 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 7: from the correspondence that's been released that the board's been 165 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 7: struggling for years to have the Adelaide Writers Festival just 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 7: a little bit more balanced. What's wrong with aon Heireciali? 167 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 7: She appears on this station quite often on PE program. 168 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 7: She's a great writer, as you say, Patrick, And to 169 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 7: have her excluded, to have GWNDA excluded, to have all 170 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 7: of these people excluded because they don't sort the political 171 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 7: predilections of comrade Adler, it's just you know, unfair and not. 172 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: Whatsf Herciali would want to have any part with this. 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 7: Well, she didn't know it was as bad as it is, 174 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 7: just like Tom Friedman probably didn't. 175 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, possibly, I mean, yeah, why someone of her standing 176 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: would want to get involved in the Adelaide Writers Festival 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: would be beyond me. And I just think about how 178 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: that looks. You've got a woman who survived an Islamist upbringing, 179 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: a victim of female genital musulation, who's had colleagues. 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: Murdered in this three three she saw it. 181 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: He needs security everywhere she goes because of extremists want 182 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: to murder her. And then she's been victimized by these 183 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: pack of hacks in Adelaide. 184 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Are you hitting? I don't know why should even give 185 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: them a time of day now. 186 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: The massacre of protesters in Iran has served as a 187 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: warning of what an authoritarian regime can do under the 188 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: cloud of digital darkness. The Internet has been completely shut 189 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: off in Iran for days as protested suffered in silence 190 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: and patrick. Two days ago, internet access was briefly restored 191 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: in parts of Iran for a few minutes, and it 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: really revealed just a full scale of the horror there, 193 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: of the blood bloody crackdown. 194 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Look, it's terrific. 195 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you're talking about piles of bodies on street corners. 196 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 6: They're talking about wounded protesters going to hospital and being 197 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 6: executed because in the hospital yeah, being shot in the forehead. 198 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is off the charts. 199 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 6: This is as bad as anything we heard from October seven, 200 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. It is horrific, and the world has 201 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 6: sort of still buying, sort of let it happen. 202 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Yes, where are the protests? 203 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 6: Where is the up rising against this rasime to say 204 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 6: this is evil, this needs to be treated and it needs. 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: To be fixed. 206 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: And this protest in Iran has been michael led by women, 207 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: and yet the feminist movement in the West has pretty 208 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: much abandoned these women. It is not interested in standing 209 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: with them. It's not interested in supporting these freedom fighters 210 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: in Iran and all those Free Palestine protests. 211 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Where are they. 212 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 7: It's the same as with the systematic rapes that were 213 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 7: involved with the harmacetrocity on October seven. They tried to 214 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 7: ignore it because it doesn't fit. 215 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: In with their narrative. 216 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 7: Wouldn't it be better, reader if people just looked at 217 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: what was happening and took a stand on the basis 218 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 7: of what's right and wrong, have some ethics. That's terrible 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 7: to kill sixteen five hundred people in Iran, To have 220 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 7: pickup trucks standing on street corners in Tehran with heavy 221 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 7: machine guns shooting anyone who comes outside. This is outrage. 222 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 7: I hope President Trump is taking some action because I 223 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 7: think this is a hinge of history which should be moved. 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 7: We need to get rid of these people. They are 225 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: even causing terrorism here in Australia, as Azio said, with 226 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 7: that expulsion of the Iranian ambassador. 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: And we're having the same people who uncritically accepted Hermas's 228 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: figures of the death toll dispute the numbers and suddenly 229 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: you can't possibly know how many have been killed, and 230 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: you can't. 231 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: Possibly trouble stand against coming. 232 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: It's just good point. 233 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: Appalling before we go, just to have a quick look 234 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: at what Prince Harry is doing. He is suing another publisher, 235 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: Daily Mail, for fourteen articles that he says used information 236 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: that was unlawfully obtain. 237 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: You're right. 238 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: For the nine week trial at the Royal Court of 239 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: Justice in London on Monday, Associated Newspapers strongly denies there 240 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: was any unlawful information gathering and said the Duke of 241 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: Sussex's social circle was and was known to be a 242 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: good source of leaks or disclosure of information to the media. 243 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: What he got up to in his private life. Patrick 244 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: seems to be just having this mendetta against the media, 245 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: despite the fact that him and his wife don't seem 246 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: to have a job other than tell all interviews. So 247 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: whilst he's protecting his privacy and fleeing the UK, we've 248 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: got reality shows, We've got airing of dirty laundry and 249 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: endless lawsuits. 250 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 6: A nine week trial I sat through a long trials. 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 6: Nine weeks is a long time. You wouldn't choose unless 252 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 6: you are really committed. 253 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: It is weird. I agree with you. Why would you 254 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: go to this length? 255 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 6: And from afar, it's difficult to know do they actually 256 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 6: have any evidence of unlawful obtaining of information because if 257 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 6: they don't, I wouldn't have thought it's going to get anywhere. 258 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: No, it gives them something to do. 259 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: It seems to be their full time job, essentially to 260 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: cry to the media and then go through the media. 261 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: So good luck to you, Prince Harry Patrick, Carline, Michael Damy, 262 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time tonight. The Albaniezy 263 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: governments Hates Beach laws have passed the House of Representatives 264 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: with support from the Liberals and some National MPs. The 265 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: bill passed with one hundred and sixteen votes for and 266 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: seven votes against. The legislation states an organization could be 267 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: prohibited in order to protect the Australian community against social, economic, 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: psychological and physical harm. 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: But some Coalition MPs have questioned elements. 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Of the hate group provision, including what could constitute psychological harm. 271 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: Professor Joanna Howe has raised these similar concerns and joins me, now, Joina, 272 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: what are the dangers of this legislation? 273 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 8: Reader? In my fifteen years as a legal academic, I've 274 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 8: never seen a piece of legislation more terrifying and threatening 275 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 8: to Australia's democracy. On the weekend, the Abanesi government said 276 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 8: that they were ditching the hate speech elements of the 277 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 8: law the any qualification provisions. But what we found out 278 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 8: today at ten am when it was publicly released, is 279 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 8: that they had inserted some of the worst elements of 280 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 8: this ill to the definition section in one one four 281 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 8: and so what this means is the bill actually criminalizes 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 8: hurt feelings. So if someone in the target group has 283 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 8: hurt feelings, experiences fear as a result of somebody else, 284 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 8: another Australian criticizing let's say, immigration from Islamic countries, and 285 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 8: that's a very reasonable position to take given that these 286 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 8: Islamic countries are not democratic. They do not allow freedom 287 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 8: of speech or freedom of religion. Christians are persecuted in 288 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 8: these countries, and in fact, in these countries women are 289 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 8: severely oppressed. So if an ordinary Australian criticizes that under 290 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 8: these new provisions, if a Muslim member of the Australian 291 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 8: community feels fear, then that person is a member of 292 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 8: a hate group and they could go to jail for 293 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 8: fifteen years. This bill will lead to ordinary, innocent, law 294 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 8: abiding Australians being sent to jail, which is something that 295 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 8: should never happen in a Western democracy. 296 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, tell me about the definition of hate crime. Precisely 297 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: what constitutes a hate crime under this legislation. 298 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 8: So this legislation has been introduced as a result of 299 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 8: Bondai under the guise of Bondai, But many of us 300 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 8: are questioning how could they have drafted something like this 301 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 8: so four hundred five hundred page legislation so quickly. It 302 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 8: seems like the Abanzi government had this onslaught of freedom 303 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 8: of speech in their back pocket, waiting for an opportunity 304 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 8: like Bondai to use as a pretext for introducing it, 305 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 8: because the bill says that it's about targeting anti Semitism, 306 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 8: but it doesn't target radical Islam. In fact, any religious 307 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 8: faith leader, So any Christian pastor who says that we 308 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 8: shouldn't be having immigration from Islamic countries because it's so 309 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 8: antithetical to Western democracy or to Christianity, they can go 310 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 8: to jail as a result of this, and their entire 311 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 8: Christian church could be designated as a hate group, and 312 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 8: any member of that church could then go to jail 313 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 8: for ten years. So the way that the threshold has 314 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 8: been defined in one one four is to say that 315 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 8: if someone in the target group, a reasonable person in 316 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 8: the target group feel fear for their safety viz. Fear 317 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 8: for being harassed, well, then that is the threshold met. 318 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 8: And it's extraordinarily broad. They've thrown procedural fairness out the window, 319 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 8: so you can actually be designated as a member of 320 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 8: a hate group without any letter being written to you, 321 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 8: without any opportunity to appeal, without any opportunity to argue 322 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 8: your side of the story. Minister Tony Burk has been 323 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 8: given huge powers under this law, and it even applies retrospectively, 324 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 8: so those Australians who are marching for our country at 325 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 8: those anti immigration marches a little while ago. If there 326 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 8: was something there that was said that was against Islamic immigration, 327 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 8: well then you know this could apply retrospectively and the 328 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 8: members of those groups could be designated hate groups and 329 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 8: they could go to jail. I cannot believe reader, that 330 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 8: Susan Lee has done a dirty, grubby deal with the 331 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 8: Labor Party to vote for this bill. The Liberals have 332 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 8: completely let down and betrayed every single ordinary Australian who 333 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 8: believed that they were a party that stood up for freedom, 334 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 8: fundamental freedoms of speech, of religion and for democracy. 335 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Well that can explain why one nation is soaring in 336 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 3: the polls, Joanna, do you expect to see these laws, 337 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: which you say are ready dangerous extended further with the 338 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: Greens wanting to see hate speech and hate group definitions extended. 339 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 8: A woman like Pauline Hanson, who I honestly believe is 340 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 8: one of the bravest women in the country. She has 341 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 8: been speaking against immigration policy that goes against Australian values 342 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 8: for decades now. But what this bill means is she 343 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 8: could go to jail because if one nation fights against 344 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 8: Islamic immigration. After Bondie then that they could be designated 345 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 8: a hate group and as the director of that hate group, 346 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 8: she could go to jail for fifteen years now, Pauline 347 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 8: Hanson has already been to jail because of Labor and 348 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: the Liberals joining together. They banned her from the Parliament. 349 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 8: She's not even in the Parliament this week. That's how 350 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 8: anti democratic and authoritarian the two major parties have become. 351 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 8: And Australians are waking up. We are seeing one Nation 352 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 8: and Pauline Hanson rising in the polls and I think 353 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 8: that we could have a see situation here in Australia 354 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 8: which is very similar to the Trump phenomenon in the 355 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 8: US and the Nigel Farage phenomenon in the UK. Because 356 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 8: people are sick and tired are There are over thirty 357 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 8: arrests a day in the UK over freedom of speech, 358 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 8: over things that people say online. And what the Greens 359 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 8: have said Rita is that this is not the end 360 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 8: of it for them. They want to see these freedom 361 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 8: of speech restrictions not just about race, but about gender 362 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 8: and about and about sexuality and so you know, you 363 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 8: might remember Julian Portius was hauled through the tribunal system 364 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 8: for nine months because of a transactivist, because he had 365 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 8: written a booklet that said, don't mess with marriage. He 366 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 8: put the case for traditional marriage between a man and 367 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 8: a woman. He was under these laws that are being 368 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 8: passed today when the Greens extended and I say when, 369 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 8: not if, because it will happen. When the Greens extended 370 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 8: to sexuality. That could literally mean that someone like Archbishop 371 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 8: Portius who took that stand, he could go to jail 372 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 8: for fifteen years. And indeed the Catholic Church could be 373 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 8: designated a hate group under this law. That's how draconian 374 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 8: it is and it has no place in the country. 375 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Professor Johanna, how thank you so much for your time. 376 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: Thank you now. 377 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: While many corporates are shying away from publicly marking Australia Day, 378 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: the Faulkner Property Group, who own shopping centers around the country, 379 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: are proudly celebrating our national holiday. Chief investment officer and 380 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: founder Chris Gano says he hopes Australia Day can be 381 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: a source of unity after the Bondai terror attack and 382 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: is imploring other businesses to join him in celebrating our 383 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 3: country and a recent poll by the Institute of Public 384 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: Affairs validates that move, finding over three quarters of Australians 385 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: support Australia Day. On January twenty sixth, Chris Gano joins me. Now, Chris, 386 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: you've said you won't about to woke corporate bs. Tell 387 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: me why you feel so strongly about Australia Day and 388 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: how you will be marking the occasion across your shopping centers. 389 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 9: Well, firstly, Radit, thank you very much for having me. 390 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 9: There's two I suppose reasons. Number one is I love 391 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 9: my country, I respect my country. I was born here, 392 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 9: I am Australian. She only has, contrary to popular opinion, 393 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 9: one national day. And if we can't show her the 394 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 9: gratitude and respect on her national Day, the twenty sixth 395 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 9: of January, when the hell else can we do it. 396 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 9: It's either the twenty sixth of January or bust. And secondly, reader, 397 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 9: and more importantly, we own shopping centers. Our customers will 398 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 9: love shopping. Look, the shopping center is the EPI center 399 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 9: of the community. And if you think about what Australia 400 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 9: Days about, it's actually about community. And the shopping centers 401 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 9: are the EFPI center of communities and you think everything 402 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 9: goes on in the shopping center, and if you think 403 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 9: about it in where we are, in the suburbs and 404 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 9: the regions where mister and misters Joe Average shop, they 405 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 9: love our Australia Day celebrations. We're not trying to pitch 406 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 9: in our shopping center's reader to the elites, to the 407 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 9: intellectually and morally superior to you and Ireta. We are 408 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 9: pitching to mister Joe Average. You know, the people who 409 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 9: want to come to our shopping center, wave the flag, loud, 410 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 9: proud and absolutely love it. We did it last year 411 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 9: and I can tell you, Rhada, it's not only good 412 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 9: for the soul. It's not only good for your country, Darling, 413 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 9: it is fantastic for business. 414 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, they're going to be people in their inner city 415 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: suburbs of Melbourne and Sydney who are going to be upset. 416 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: But you saw a big boost in sales last year 417 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 3: during that period when you were. 418 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: Celebrating Australia Day proudly. So the masses are with you. 419 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: But in the corporate sector and the media, what you're 420 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: doing is seen as controversial. 421 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 9: Well, isn't it extraordinary that's celebrating your country's national day. 422 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 9: Isn't it extraordinary that it's a new story. I mean, 423 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 9: it's amazing that this is actually used a bloke in 424 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 9: the corporate world, who are one hundred million visitors a 425 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 9: year to his assets. By the way, one hundred million, 426 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 9: four times the population of Australia visit our assets every year. 427 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 10: But let me give you some quick stats. 428 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 9: Last year our foot traffic in one CenTra alone, all 429 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 9: the foot traffics were either double or tripled on our 430 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 9: Australia weekends, which means we took business off somebody else. 431 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 9: But in one of the centers in Gladstone in Quinlan 432 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 9: eighty we were up seventeen percent. 433 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 10: On foot traffic. 434 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 9: These are mind boggling numbers. There is mind boggling as 435 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 9: the IA poll this work that's got ninety percent of 436 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 9: kids at a day twenty four going ossi, ossi oi 437 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 9: oi oi. Woke is finished. 438 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: Now you've declared woke is over. That is a big call. 439 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: But before you go, tell me about what is happening 440 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: in the corporate sector when it comes to activism. Are 441 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: they still as active as they have been pushing SG 442 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 3: and d IE policies. We saw the corporate sector in 443 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: this country almost unanimously the voice A couple of years ago. 444 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 9: Yep, yeah, I mean if you pressed and repeat that, 445 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 9: I don't think you'd see that again after the voice. Clearly, 446 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 9: if you look at the United States, there's all the 447 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 9: markers that mark off ESGDI markers, you know just what, 448 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 9: there's indexes. 449 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 10: You can follow. 450 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 9: And for the last three or four years, if you 451 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 9: look at the ASX, the ODS exchange, which is still 452 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 9: sort of let's call it semiway, a lot of those 453 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 9: things are just drifting. And what they don't do reader, 454 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 9: they don't chop them over off. Do you know what 455 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 9: I mean. You don't chop your HR department overnight. What 456 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 9: do you do is you progressively change your policies, and 457 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 9: you progressively change your incentive systems, and you progressively change 458 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 9: because little things. Because ultimately, as a listed company, you 459 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 9: have one responsibility. It's to your shareholder, and I have 460 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 9: exactly the same responsibility as a private company. 461 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: It's to my unit holes. 462 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 9: But most important is to the customers mister and missus 463 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 9: Joe average that are shopping in my shopping centers. That's 464 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 9: where my obligation is to those people. And as of 465 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 9: five minutes ago, my good friend. Reader, we just settled 466 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 9: Inner Air an a fair in New South Wales. 467 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm delighted to say so. 468 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 9: The biggest chopping center in New South Wales, Didial, will 469 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 9: be celebrating Australia this weekend. So if you're in Gosport, 470 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 9: if you're in the district, get down to Aeron Affair 471 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 9: because you will see Australian flags flying loudly and proudly 472 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 9: and Australian activities and the whole theme is concentrated on 473 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 9: the whole campaign Reader's called It's never been more important 474 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 9: to love being Australian. 475 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: Chris Garno, you're a force of nature. Thank you so 476 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: much for your time tonight. 477 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me. 478 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Reader. 479 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: Still to Karma left he is losing it and finally 480 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: a top of. 481 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: You astrama is taking on what culture head on? I'll 482 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: get kosher Gator's reaction to the hit series Landman. Next, 483 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: you're watching the Reader Paney Show and it's time for 484 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: lefties losing it. And let's start with fallen celebrity Ellen DeGeneres, 485 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: who is such a horror show that she's been variously 486 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: described by staff and guests as toxic, terrifying, manipulative, demeaning, 487 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 3: and the worst and meanest. 488 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: Person I've met. 489 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: Yes, that fake persona the down to earth girl with 490 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: a Sunday disposition. Well, that all fell apart when those 491 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: who worked with Ellen exposed what she was really like 492 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: behind the scenes, including this terrifying tidbit from a cameraman 493 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: who alleged that an employee was pressured to move their 494 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: child's bone marrow transplant to accommodate Ellen's schedule. 495 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: Yikes. 496 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: So naturally we are just desperate to know what Lefty Ellen, 497 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: who fled Trump's America to move to the UK, thinks 498 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: about ice and efforts to deport illegal immigrants. 499 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 11: Hey, everybody, I just wanted to say, I am so 500 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 11: sorry for what is happening in Minneapolis in our country really, 501 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 11: but specifically many at right now, because it's where I 502 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 11: shut my last stand up special, and everybody there couldn't 503 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 11: have been more lovely. I shout it there because they 504 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 11: say it's the happiest city in America, and I found 505 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 11: that to be true. So my thoughts and my prayers 506 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 11: are going out to everyone, and I'm proud of everyone 507 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 11: who's protesting peacefully, and I am sorry for anyone who has. 508 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 10: Been hurt. 509 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 11: Just for protesting, for doing what you should be doing. 510 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Or she's proud of the protesters. 511 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Is sheared the supposedly peaceful protesters who spit on ice 512 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: agents who attack them, try to run them. 513 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: Over, and good news. 514 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: These feral protesters aren't just busying themselves storming churches and 515 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 3: attacking law enforcement and trying to help criminals escape deportation. 516 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: They're devoting a whole day to a walkout. This is 517 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: a campaign headed by actress Francis Fish. 518 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: She's as mad as hell. 519 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 10: I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take 520 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 10: it anymore. 521 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 12: On January twentieth, we are walking out to free. 522 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 10: America and walking in to remove the regime. We're walking 523 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 10: out of work, walking out of school, We're walking out 524 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 10: of anywhere and everywhere because it's past time that we 525 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 10: stop cooperating with fascism. 526 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: It all sounds a little bit insurrectiony to may that 527 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: want to remove the regime, as they call it. That 528 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: mean the democratically elected president who won in a landslide. 529 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 4: Congress has the power to remove a tyrant from office. 530 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 10: It's not an option, it's their sworn duty. 531 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 12: So at three pm we'll start walking into local congressional 532 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 12: offices to demand impeachment and removal. 533 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: We are peacefully demanding that our representatives filed their own 534 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 4: articles of impeachment against. 535 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: Trump and senior Trump officials. 536 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 10: And we are demanding that they force a vote. 537 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 12: Trump has committed tuity and obstruction of justice. 538 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: And turning ICE into a paramilitary force is an act 539 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: of treason. 540 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 13: On January twentieth, we are telling our congressional officials that 541 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 13: it is their duty right now to impeach convict and 542 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 13: remote impeach. 543 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 4: Convict and remote impeach convict and remove. 544 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what they're talking about there is a peaceful coup, 545 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: an insurrection, probably something the FBI should be keeping an 546 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: eye on and talking about. The FBI, they're going to 547 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: investigate the storming of a church in Minneapolis by anti 548 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: ICE activists who terrorize parishioners, including children, and guess who 549 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: was there with them, Pharmacy and and hack Don Lemon. 550 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 14: Just imagine it's uncomfortable and traumatic for people here. But again, careful, 551 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 14: it's very slippy right here. It's uncomfortable and traumatic for 552 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 14: the people here, But that's what really careful, please really slippery, 553 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 14: not kidding that's what protesting is about. 554 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: And so that's what protesting is all about, terrifying young children. 555 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: You can see kids there being forced to leave the 556 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: church service that should be saved in the sanctity of 557 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: a church. This is your idea of a righteous protest 558 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 3: a terrified child. 559 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: They're being comforted by adults. 560 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean, what sort of an absolute callous clown is 561 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: Don Lemon? And if you think he's taken any accountability 562 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: for his part in this activism, you'd be wrong. 563 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: Apparently anyone upset must be a white. 564 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 14: Supremacist, and there's a certain degree of entitlement. I think 565 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 14: people who are you know, in the religious groups like that. 566 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 14: It's not the type of Christianity that I practice, but 567 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 14: I think that they're entitled and that that entitlement comes 568 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 14: from a supremacy, a white supremacy, and they think that 569 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 14: this country was built for them, that it is their 570 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 14: Christian country, when actually we left England because we wanted 571 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 14: religious freedom. It's religious freedom, but only if you're a 572 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 14: Christian and only if you're a white male pretty much, 573 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 14: and so yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. But it's an 574 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 14: intimidation tactic. And you know, I said, I don't underst 575 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 14: and how I've become the feace of it. When I 576 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 14: was a journalist, I do understand that I'm the biggest name. 577 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: There where does one start. 578 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: So if you object to a mob of crazed lunatic 579 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: storming a church during Sunday service, frightening little kids of 580 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: all colors, then you're a selfish. 581 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: Entitled white supremacist. 582 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: That's the story you're running with, Don And interesting that 583 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: he chose to speak there to Jennifer Welch, the uniquely 584 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: awful hard left hater who cheered on those who called 585 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: for conservatives to be killed, including those who defended the 586 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: murder of Charlie Kirk. 587 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: She's so full of bile and hater. 588 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 3: The fact that she has any presence on mainstream media 589 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: like MSNBC, ms NOW shows you how. 590 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: Far the left half fallen. 591 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: Here she is with male Karen Jimmy Costa talking about 592 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: mass arresting her political opponents, including the likes of Elon 593 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: Musk and President Trump. 594 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 12: Lu Tsunami means that Congress is going to haul Elon Musk, 595 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 12: big balls and a bunch of other people's ass in 596 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 12: front and say what crimes did you commit? And it's 597 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 12: going to get really serious and the same with Trump 598 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 12: because I believe, and this is just my opinion, that 599 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 12: Trump and all of the bottom feeding morons surrounding him, 600 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 12: an Elon Musk and all the bottom feeding clinger honors 601 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 12: that surround him, I think they commit crimes every day, 602 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 12: and I think to reconcile all of this is going 603 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 12: to take hardcore, not integrity democrats Q democrats than over 604 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 12: our country. We are serious about this, we are prosecuting. 605 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: There you go. 606 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: She wants to round up her political opponents and to 607 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: use her words there She is not interested in integrity democrats. 608 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: She wants those who will weaponize the justice system again 609 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: to attack conservatives. 610 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: How did that work out the last time? Jen now 611 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: Long said, a. 612 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: Septum ring is a signal to the world, a warning 613 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: of serious mental health issues. 614 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: And here is further proof of that theory. 615 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: This woman, this woman, I think doesn't just need a 616 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: strike jacket. 617 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 2: I think she needs a jail cell. 618 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: You can just kill ice agents. You know that, you 619 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: can just kill them. You don't have to hold your 620 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 4: phone in their face and ask people when their birthday is, 621 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: and ask people what their name is and then try 622 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 4: to find wherever they end up in Los Angeles, you 623 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 4: can kill them. This isn't about social media cloud anymore. 624 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 4: This isn't about video, This isn't about the phone. This 625 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 4: is about get a gun and start killing ice agents. 626 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: They are deputized corrections officers. Kill them now. 627 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: While Hollywood continues to alienate half their potential audience by 628 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: being stupidly woke at every given opportunity, there are those 629 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: in an entertainment sector bucking the trend. 630 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: Not many, mind you. 631 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: But there are programs like The Brilliant Landman that mock 632 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: the left. Here the program confronts the excesses of the 633 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 3: trans movement, including the obsession with pronouns. 634 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 10: So what are your pronouns? 635 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: My pronouns? I hope that's pretty clear. Yeah, I don't 636 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: make assumptions. You could identify as a sunflower. 637 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 15: You know. 638 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: I've been told I look like one. 639 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 16: I use the them, you know, I've always been curious 640 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 16: why they're them. 641 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: Because there's just one of you, and those are plural pronouns. 642 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Just never really understood the hoopla pronouns. 643 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 16: My name's Ainslie, and I just can't really come up 644 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 16: with a reason why you would address me a third 645 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 16: person in a conversation that I'm a part of. 646 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: So if you do, I'm probably not there. 647 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 16: So I wouldn't really know what pronouns you were using anyways, 648 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 16: So why would it matter. 649 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 17: This is my safe space and I need my environment 650 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 17: crafted to support my mental health. 651 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 3: And Landman also shows the manner in which universities enforced 652 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: hard left conformity. This program shows who the real bullies are. 653 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't get the sense that she wants me 654 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 16: to express myself at all. Well, for example, their pronouns 655 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 16: here we go. 656 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 8: What nothing. 657 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm just preparing myself to be offended. 658 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 16: I don't care what someone's pronouns are. I just I mean, 659 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 16: using a plural pronoun for one person is just kind 660 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 16: of incorrect. 661 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: It says who, well the English language Asley. 662 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 12: I'm not going to argue the evolving nature of pronoun 663 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 12: usage with you. 664 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: They would prefer you use day, then, why is that 665 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: an issue? 666 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Sky News contributed Kosher Gaeta Kosher. The 667 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: popularity of Landman, I think speaks not just to the 668 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: quality of the program, but the desire out there for 669 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: Hollywood to tackle these issues, because anytime they do cover it, 670 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: it seems to be in a very skewed fashion. 671 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 17: Indeed, from a business perspective, it's such a wide open 672 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 17: field for anybody willing to do it. There's literally half 673 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 17: the country, tens of millions of people who are crying 674 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 17: out for quality content in the space. That's where you 675 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 17: see some of it coming up in the alternative media spaces, 676 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 17: but not so many mainstream director's producers creators. Taylor Sheridan 677 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 17: the creator behind this, also of Yellowstone. He's from Texas. 678 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 17: He very smartly doesn't wear his politics on his sleeve. 679 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 17: We can infer, but he's creating art. He loves to 680 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 17: depict rural, working class settings, obvious rugged masculinity, natural femininity 681 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 17: like these characters here. When you see that, and it's 682 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 17: almost like he's doing a wink and a nod, I 683 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 17: think to half the country about what he's talking about. 684 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about that storming of the church in Minneapolis. 685 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: I played footage of that last night. Just incredible scenes 686 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: to see these anti Trump, anti ice protests storming a 687 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: church that were joined by Don Lemon, and here he lectures. 688 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: The preacher about what Jesus would really want? What do 689 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: you think of it? 690 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 10: I mean, this is unacceptable, It's shameful. It's shameful to 691 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 10: interrupt a public gathering. 692 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: Of Christians in worship. 693 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 9: But there are folks. 694 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 10: I have to take care of my flock. 695 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 14: Listen, we live in there's a Constitution in the First 696 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 14: Amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble a 697 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 14: protect Yeah, we're here to worship. 698 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 10: We're here to worship Jesus because. 699 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: That's the hope of these cities. 700 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 10: That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ. 701 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 14: We're very respectful, but please don't. 702 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: Push me though we're here. 703 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 10: We're here to worship Jesus. 704 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 9: That's why we're here. 705 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 10: Okay, that's why we're here. Hopefully, that's what we're about. 706 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 14: Which you think Jesus would be understanding. 707 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 10: We're about love these bodes, we're about spreading the love 708 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 10: of Jesus. 709 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean the nerve of him saying, oh, don't touch 710 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: me as he gets into the man's personal space, telling 711 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: him what Jesus would really want it that calls. 712 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: Now, people are irate about this. It's like they've. 713 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: Crossed the line, and there are calls for everyone involved 714 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: in that action to be investigated, to possibly be charged. 715 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 17: There are Assistant Attorney General Hermy Dillon, head of the 716 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 17: Civil Rights Division, is exploring the Face Act, which is 717 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 17: about protecting freedom to worship and religious freedom on the line, 718 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 17: and the others are of course going to argue freedom 719 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 17: of speech and the First Amendment, and that will run 720 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 17: its course depending on how far they prosecute. But this 721 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 17: did disrupt a place of worship during a time of worship, 722 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 17: and so there is some argument there that legal scholars 723 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 17: are saying there might be a case. I do think 724 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 17: the Trump administration also understands the power of setting examples, 725 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 17: like making examples of people, and you get one or 726 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 17: two high profile ones like this. Since Don Lemon is involved, 727 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 17: it could be a deterrent. I don't know that that 728 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 17: will take a long time. I think the other issue 729 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 17: to everybody knows this is Don Lemon is looking for 730 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 17: her second act. You have to snn and so he 731 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 17: just wants to go where he thinks there's conflict and 732 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 17: a viral story. And in so far as that goes, 733 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 17: I guess it's working. He's in the news a lot. 734 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's working. 735 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 3: He's got superstar Nicki Minaj weighing into this issue. She's 736 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: attacked him personally, and she also posted this image from 737 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: inside the church. You can see there looks like parents 738 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: comforting their child, terrified kids. In there, she wrote, the 739 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: world is watching. Kosha Minaj just really leaned into Christians 740 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 3: and Christianity. We saw her talk about persecuted Christians in Nigeria. 741 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 3: Now church goers in Minneapolis. 742 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 17: And Don Lemon probably didn't see that coming because you're right, 743 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 17: superstar with many more fans online than him, she is 744 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 17: leaning in and it kind of links to the previous 745 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 17: topic too. Another example of somebody from the entertainment industry 746 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 17: daring to buck the trend or come out in support 747 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 17: of religion. You see them here and there. But it 748 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 17: used to be another mind. It used to be career 749 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 17: suicide to do that. I guess she's too big to counsel. 750 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 17: And it is refreshing because she does lend a different 751 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 17: credibility to the cause. 752 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: She brings a different audience. 753 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 17: It's maybe more open or willing to listen to her 754 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 17: than somebody you know of the rate, and I think 755 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 17: it's a good thing. 756 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 3: Now we're seeing these protests ramp up, obviously a lot 757 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: happening in Minnesota, but also elsewhere in the country. They 758 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 3: have a day of protests coming up in the next 759 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. How do you see that impacting the midterms? 760 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 3: It's months away. But does it help Donald Trump or 761 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: does a painted picture of chaos and disunity? And is 762 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 3: it just going to help the Democrats? Really, I could 763 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 3: get a fantastic result. 764 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: Come no vembo. 765 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a you put your finger on a key question. 766 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 17: I think that's ok. At some of the polling where 767 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 17: sixty seven percent of Republicans are fully in support of it. 768 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 17: They want all illegals out, not just violent illegals went 769 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 17: on to commit violent crimes at all illegals. 770 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: That is a massive shift. 771 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 17: The party was not there even ten years ago, but 772 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 17: it was something like fifty to fifty five percent of 773 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 17: the country actually thinks so that ice agent went too far. 774 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 17: They see renee Good as a little bit of a victim, 775 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 17: even if legally that may not be the case. It's 776 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 17: the optics of it. 777 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: So that's tricky. 778 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 17: It's pretty split, and there's a big contingent of people. 779 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 17: It's all Democrats and independents, which are important in the midterms, 780 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 17: that don't like this and don't like the idea of 781 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 17: armed agents out in the streets, even if they're. 782 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: About twenty twenty and that how summer of love we 783 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: had with the BLM rights across the country, two billion 784 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 3: dollars worth of damage, more than a dozen people killed, 785 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 3: many more bashed, And though I would imagine most of 786 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 3: the country wouldn't have been supportive of any of that, 787 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 3: it did paint a picture of chaos, and I think 788 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: it helped the Democrats, and it seems like they're trying 789 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: to emulate that come the midterms. 790 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 17: And when you get something like this, these conflicts are 791 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 17: bound to happen. Even if the ICE is in the 792 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 17: right legally, just in the court of public opinion, they 793 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 17: are able to make hay of it. So I think that, 794 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 17: coupled with the economy and other issues that are maybe 795 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 17: not going exactly as the Trump administration and Republicans want, 796 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 17: it's going to be very very tricky the midterms that 797 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 17: we don't know how it's. 798 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 15: Going to go. 799 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 3: No way too early right now, But let's have a 800 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 3: little light relief courtesy of town Hall Media and Tim 801 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 3: Walls tampon Tin Walls. 802 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: I would not put it past this administration to target 803 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: midnight mass services amongst folks going to worship. 804 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 10: Bang Renee Good, Rene Good where are you? 805 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 12: Where are you? 806 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 15: Where are your people? 807 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 10: Why are you got it with? 808 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 5: Well? 809 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 10: Every day fighting for the humanity. 810 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 9: You drink your pappa, You got your jewelry, you have 811 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 9: your nice clothes. But what do you do? 812 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 10: What are you understand for your small lots of couplebodies. 813 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: It's always the way with the left. It's all about projection. 814 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 3: They're guilty of precisely what they accuse their political opponents 815 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: of doing. 816 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 17: Always And oh, Tim Walls, I think what did he 817 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 17: say in the debate? 818 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 9: Knucklehead? He tends your knucklehead. 819 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 17: So he did not pick the best example there, and 820 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 17: the timing couldn't have been worse. 821 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 10: He is in hot water. 822 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 17: He really this whole gigantrian level of fraud that's coming 823 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 17: out of Minnesota while he presided over that state as governor. 824 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 17: We're just at the tip of the iceberg of that story, 825 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 17: and he is implicated, whether by actively being involved or 826 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 17: just being incompetent, whatever it is, in some. 827 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: Way he's complicit. 828 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 17: I think he's worried about it, and you can see 829 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 17: the panic a little bit. 830 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 831 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: I think the best case scenario is he's hopelessly inept 832 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: and had no idea what was happening under his watch. 833 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: That is the best case scenario. 834 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: The other option is complicit and it could be facing 835 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: some serious charges. 836 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: Now, before you go, the issue of biological. 837 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,240 Speaker 3: Boys and men in women's sport has been spoken about 838 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 3: it a lot. Recently, the Supreme Court has heard arguments 839 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 3: in two constitutional cases regarding the participation of transgender athletes 840 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 3: at the K twelve and college level. 841 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: Do you expect the court to settle this matter once 842 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 2: and for all. 843 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 3: We're still going to have the states doing their own 844 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 3: thing and the Trump administration doing its this. 845 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 17: I think the result is due in June July, in 846 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 17: the summertime, and the reading seems to be people expect 847 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 17: that six' three the conservative majority will uphold the current, 848 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 17: ruling which is that those twenty seven seats the red 849 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 17: stets essentially who bands can do. So and it's primarily 850 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 17: on the core argument that they're, bringing and also on 851 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 17: top of, that there's a federalism argument too that it 852 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 17: should be at the local. Level people are still debating. 853 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 17: This we wish they, weren't but they, are and so 854 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 17: let the states have the, power which is good that 855 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 17: at least Those idaho And West virginia who are the plaintiffs, 856 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 17: here will come out. Victorious, however the other twenty three 857 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 17: states who have not banned men from participating in girls, 858 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 17: sports they will continue to do what they're. Doing there's 859 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 17: a big case down the road that they're going to. 860 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 17: Hear where would they nationalize that? 861 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 10: Ban that? 862 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: One it looks like. 863 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 17: Even the conservative judges won't go, there and they'll rely 864 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 17: on the federalism, argument which will mean that you'll have 865 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 17: more of the red part of the country looking red 866 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 17: and the blue part of the country looking, blue and 867 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 17: life is very different if you live In texas Versus. 868 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 3: California fascinating and, yeah listening to some of those arguments 869 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 3: being put a couple of those liberal, JUDGES i, mean 870 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 3: you just have to wonder how they even made it 871 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,959 Speaker 3: onto The Supreme. Court the questions were just so infantile 872 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: and almost embarrassing to very. 873 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 2: Embarrassing, koshergata thank you so much for your time. Tonight 874 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: pleasure still to. 875 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: Come an unfolding scandal involving THE Us Secret service And 876 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 3: Vice PRESIDENT. Jd vance Alex stein has the Details. 877 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: Welcome Back. 878 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 3: Now while the majority Of, americans including a big majority 879 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 3: of The latino, community were thrilled that The trump administration 880 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: Removed venezuelan Dictator Nicholas maduro from. Power there are some 881 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 3: who are unhappy about the flow of narcotics Into, america 882 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: slowing pushing up. Prices here Is Alex stein addressing his local. 883 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 13: Councils ever since that Jerk Donald trump Arrested Nicholas, MADURO 884 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 13: i can't find cocaine in the, city to, say my, 885 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 13: life and IF i do get a guy on the, 886 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 13: PHONE i get the drug dealer on the front of my. 887 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 10: EAVEN i need an eight. Ball you're so much an 888 00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 10: eight ball? 889 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: Car do you know how much an eight ball? 890 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 10: Cost CHERYL a lot of? 891 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 13: Money, now all Because nicholas Madurod i'm sick Of Donald 892 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 13: trump outlowing my ability to access cocaine in this freaking 893 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 13: city Because flomo's got the best. 894 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 10: Blow flomo has got the best. 895 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 13: Blow but with all that being, SAID i just want to, 896 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 13: say for all of the people that are seeking asylum 897 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 13: out Of, venezuela all big Booty latinas are welcome in my. 898 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 13: Place all big Booty. Latinas if you're, nine you're. 899 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 2: Fine Alex stein joins. 900 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 3: Me, Now alex were the members Of Flower Mount council 901 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: sympathetic to your? 902 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: Plight do you know? 903 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 10: What, surprisingly they were not sympathetic. Whatsoever and a couple 904 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 10: of police officers talked to me as soon as the 905 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 10: meeting was. Over but luckily they kind of know WHO 906 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 10: i am and understood WHAT i was trying to, Do 907 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 10: so thank GOD i didn't get arrested at that. 908 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 3: Meeting, well, yes also your sign inviting big Booty, latinas 909 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: whether they're illegal or, not to reside at your, HOUSE 910 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: i think that would have raised a few hygebrows in. Itself, 911 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: now we all know about the unprecedented fraud In minnesota 912 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 3: billions of taxpayer funds, squandered, stolen but that hasn't inspired 913 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: Other blue states and cities to look in their own 914 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: backyards for similar. 915 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: Schemes here Is seattle Mayg Katie wilson explaining why she's. 916 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 3: Reluctant to investigate claims Of somali fraud In. 917 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 15: Seattle problematic to have random people showing up to Decars and, 918 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 15: YEAH i, MEAN i think the fear in The smiley 919 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 15: community is, real the fear in immigrant communities are, Real 920 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 15: so we're taking that very. 921 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: Seriously along those, lines have you asked anyone to follow 922 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: up on the fraud, claims either to The apartment Of 923 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: Immigrant Refugee affairs OR. Spd, No so there's as far 924 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: as you're, concerned right, now. 925 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 17: There's no reason to suggest there's any sort of. 926 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 15: Fraud this holy issue is not really about, fraud, Right 927 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 15: it's about dividing and. Conquering it's about making an immigrant 928 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 15: community a. 929 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: Target there you, Go, alex there's no reason to. 930 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 3: Investigate it's, problematic and she's clearly more worried about what 931 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: she calls fear in The somali community than any sort 932 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: of fraud that could be happening under a. 933 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: Nose. 934 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 10: No, ready you're exactly. Right and the real problem is 935 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 10: that we have a two tier justice. System IF, i 936 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 10: as a Legal american, citizen was trying to run some 937 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 10: sort of daycare, FRAUD i would get caught AND i 938 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 10: would be held accountable for all of the crimes THAT i. 939 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 10: Committed but if you're A somali that is that is, 940 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 10: here you, know on a green card or you know 941 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 10: some sort of you, know temporary immigration, status when you 942 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 10: get arrested for a serious crime like, this you get 943 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 10: to get. Deported so they basically have a get out 944 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 10: of jail free, card which is the real problem all 945 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 10: this because it encourages them to actually do some sort 946 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 10: of illegal enterprise to make. Money so that's why The 947 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 10: american citizens are. Frustrated, yes it's a lot of, money 948 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 10: but we're frustrated that illegal emmerants can come here and 949 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 10: take away social services and tax paying dollars THAT i. 950 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 10: Paid also that they can have Bent lee's and driver 951 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 10: on a fancy. Cars it's, Ridiculous, rita. 952 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 2: Before you, Go. 953 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 3: Alex investigative report Of james O'Keefe has uncovered some starting 954 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 3: information about a secret service agent As Signis Vice president 955 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 3: Jd Vance thomas a SCOTTO i holdover from The biden, 956 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 3: administration was caught on video disclosing high level information about 957 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 3: THE vp and his, family And alex seemed very, relaxed 958 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: very happy to reveal this information to a total stranger 959 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 3: in person and also via text. 960 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 10: Messages, Well, rita you, Know i'm very good friends With 961 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 10: james o'keefa And i'm trying to you, know name. Drop 962 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 10: AND i Remember james calling me before this came, out 963 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 10: and he, Said, alex this is the biggest thing That 964 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 10: i've ever. Uncovered he thought this was going to be 965 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 10: as Magnus, opus and of course it was a huge, 966 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 10: thing And i'm so thankful that you're covering. It but 967 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 10: just think about. This we have a Secret service agent 968 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 10: that is joking, about you, know a derelict of duty 969 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 10: in getting the vice, president you, know potentially. Her so 970 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 10: this is a huge. STORY i think this is an 971 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 10: indication that there is a deep state that even Though 972 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 10: trump is in, power there's a lot of people that 973 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 10: are high up that don't agree With Donald. 974 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 3: Trump Alex, stein thank you so much for your time, 975 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 3: tonight and. 976 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: That's all the time we. Have i'll see you tomorrow 977 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 2: night at. Eleven newsnight is up. 978 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 10: Next