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Speaker 1: The Fitzi and Whipper podcast, Big One.

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Speaker 2: I married at first was first sight last night? Is

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Speaker 2: it not?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 2: Well, Adam's gone. He walked out of the door. He said,

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Speaker 2: I can't deal with this anymore. He was asked, I

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Speaker 2: mean you were married to Janelle. I mean, why did

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Speaker 2: you kiss Claire? And this was his answer, why did

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Speaker 2: you kiss Quid? I was just, I was, I was

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Speaker 2: Can I just be honest?

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Speaker 1: Please? I was just, I was. I was drunk.

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Speaker 3: With his words.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a fair bit of editing. I think

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Speaker 2: there as well. One lady who was really really upset

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Speaker 2: with this kiss and the way that they lied to

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Speaker 2: everyone within the group and said that they didn't do

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Speaker 2: it was a listener and she joins us, now welcome

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Speaker 2: and listen, welcome, listen.

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Speaker 1: Morning with you. How are you going? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Why not bad? How are you this morning? Because did

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Speaker 3: you watch last night?

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Speaker 1: I've watched and pieces of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it's full on. I mean in that moment,

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that you're upset about the most,

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Speaker 2: Alyssa was the way, I mean Jesse questioned Claire and

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Speaker 2: Adam at the time when the kiss happened, and they

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Speaker 2: lied to everybody's faces.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, it was. It was Yeah, I think for

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Speaker 1: me it was just more past the actual kiss. It

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Speaker 1: was just like the gas fighting and the manipulation that

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Speaker 1: happened to Jesse and to Janelle. So it's heartbreaking to see.

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Speaker 2: Them in that situation. Can I ask when you're filming,

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Speaker 2: when you're filming those moments and with Adam and Adam

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Speaker 2: getting up and leaving at the end, how long does

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Speaker 2: that take to film something like that? Is it a

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Speaker 2: few hours or does it happen quite quickly? Alissa?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, the commitments go on forever. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, to be honest, I think I've kind of

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Speaker 1: blacked out most of it from my memory. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just the thing. The thing about him is that

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Speaker 1: he just took no accountability. You could tell Claire was

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Speaker 1: really remorseful. You know, she was very brave and came

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Speaker 1: forward and she was held accountable and she's yep, I

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Speaker 1: did it.

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Speaker 3: We need to talk about the elephant in the room, Melissa, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: go for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean it's with you and Duncan. It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a tough one for you last night, and

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Speaker 2: you got quite emotional because you didn't like it. When

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Speaker 2: Duncan actually was he didn't side with Adam, but he

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Speaker 2: got in contact with Adam and he'd had contact with

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Speaker 2: him just to see what was going on, and he

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Speaker 2: disagreed with what he'd done. And your mentality was, I

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Speaker 2: don't think you should be associating with Claire or Adam

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Speaker 2: at all after what they did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I was just a bit triggered, just because

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Speaker 1: you know, I have been gassed and manipulated before as well.

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Speaker 1: I think as a society we've come so far to

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Speaker 1: be able to name that language and be able to

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, see what a narcissist is. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just now.

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Speaker 3: The point, the point I wanted to talk about, Alyssa

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Speaker 3: was the fact that you have been the other woman

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Speaker 3: in a relationship, and that a lot of people. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if nobody's heard the grab before.

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Speaker 1: This was it his I was complicent in an affair.

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Speaker 1: I was the other woman and I knew that he

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Speaker 1: was a married man.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of people have been saying, well, you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't even comment. They're saying that's hypocritical because you have

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Speaker 3: been that person. You were the home wrecker or the

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Speaker 3: other girl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, there's a lot of context that they edit out. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you can see that I had a full page of notes.

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Speaker 3: Was that true?

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Speaker 1: The truth, the truth of it is is that the

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Speaker 1: man that I had an affair with, he told me

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Speaker 1: that the marriage wasn't real. He told me that it

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Speaker 1: was for a visa, that it was for a green card.

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Speaker 1: There was a bit of power and balance at play.

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Speaker 1: It was over twelve years ago, so I was very young,

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Speaker 1: in naive, and you know, I've learned that lesson and

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Speaker 1: I've grown from that, and that's why I'm so triggered

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Speaker 1: by that manipulation and that gas fighting because I've been

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Speaker 1: there before.

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Speaker 3: But like, you'll let your I mean, you obviously got

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Speaker 3: a lesson from what happened twelve years ago. You know

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Speaker 3: these guys can be having a lesson right now also,

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 1: Of course, But also I was back in Janelle. I

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Speaker 1: was back in Janelle, and you know, she told me

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Speaker 1: before going into this, I don't know if I can

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Speaker 1: do it. I don't know if I can face it.

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Speaker 1: You know, can you please help me be my voice?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, absolutely I can. So you know, afterwards,

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Speaker 1: I really wish I wouldn't have been so hard on

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Speaker 1: Claire because I can see that she was clearly manipulated

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Speaker 1: by Adam. And then also, you know, with Duncan supporting Adam,

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Speaker 1: like John said, you're not always going to be friends

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Speaker 1: with your partner's friends, and you just have to you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully not make that in the relationship.

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Speaker 2: Is it tough though, because if you look back twelve

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Speaker 2: years ago, Alyssa, imagine if your friends walked away from you,

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Speaker 2: which is what you wanted to do with Duncan and

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Speaker 2: all everybody involved. What if they walked away with you

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Speaker 2: if they found out that you were having an affair

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Speaker 2: with a married man, that would have absolutely torn you apart.

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Speaker 1: There's a bit more context to it though, so like

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that you know, it was it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a real marriage, So I was guessed manipulated by this

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Speaker 1: narcissist man. And obviously when you're in that situation, it's

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Speaker 1: very hard if you haven't you know, been gasolt and

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Speaker 1: manipulated in that kind of relationship before, because you want

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Speaker 1: to believe this person, Yes, this person, you think that

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Speaker 1: you love them. You know they're love bombing you. You

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Speaker 1: know they're telling you that you're the one, and that

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Speaker 1: you know they're spending twenty four to seven with you.

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Speaker 1: Of course, isn't to try to believe that, and then

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Speaker 1: when you find out that it's all a lie, it's

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Speaker 1: heartbreaking laugh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to believe it. I'm losing faith

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Speaker 3: in the understanding of the show. I'm questioning everything.

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Speaker 2: I feel like your relationship with Claire has been fractured.

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Speaker 2: It's tough fraction. Can you tell us about some of

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Speaker 2: the dinner parties coming up? Do are there's some fireworks

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Speaker 2: coming up? Melissa?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, you got to keep watching. I can't spoil

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Speaker 1: that on.

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Speaker 2: We need something. We need something here.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of There's much more drama coming up.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that, so you've got to keep watching.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you know one thing we've become famous for

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Speaker 3: on the show, the merrit at first Side dinner party.

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Speaker 3: It happens our own dinner party with fifteen Whip, which

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Speaker 3: happens at the end of each series. Would you like

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Speaker 3: to come along? I can extend the official invite to

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Speaker 3: you right now.

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Speaker 1: I would love to.

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Speaker 2: All right, first you do have to hook up with

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Speaker 2: a married man on the night that.

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Speaker 1: I rejected? Then please?

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Speaker 3: You said yes? All right?

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Speaker 2: Well, appreciate your time and listen. Married at First I

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Speaker 2: continue seven thirty on Channel nine tonight. Thanks for coming

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Speaker 2: on the show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks Lissa. You're listening to the Fitzi and

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Speaker 1: Whipper podcast