1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Player meetings to be held in Wayela on Sunday afternoon 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: to discuss concerns that employees, workers contractors have about. Certainly 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: contractors about not being paid and some owed up to 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: one company seventy million and others the balance up to 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: one hundred million. Spoke with Frank Pangelo, independent Upper House 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: MP in State Parliament about this several days ago. Frank, 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the new development is a meeting to be held. I 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: imagine it'll be widely attended. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, Matthew, Good morning to your listeners. Absolutely. In fact, 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: many have reached out to me during the week after 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: I raised this, and I believe it will be well 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: attended on Sunday. And look, you know, I note that 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: the Premier is going to lead the port fanned march 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: from rondel Moore to the Adelaide Oval tonight. Well you 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: know it's going to be a great furto opportunity for him. 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: How about marching to Whyala, Premier and to Cusantonas and 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: giving the people of Wyala, the workers at the still 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: works some reassurance that the government is going to stand 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 2: right behind them in the event that the steel works 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: could find itself in a dire financial situation. We know 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: that it is now. I mean, if a company can't 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: pay massive debts like that, you have to wonder what's 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: going on and what the future of the steel works are. 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: We can't afford to lose the steel works. Everyone knows that, 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: not just for Wyale, but also for the country. We 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: need that sovereign ability to be able to produce our 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: own steel. But right now, the State Prosperity Project, you know, 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: there's much vaunted green energy planned by the Premiere that 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: he touted while he was up in Port Agusta could 30 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: be hanging on a threadmat view because it all hinges 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: around the still works. 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: So the still works vital for green hydrogen to go ahead. 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: There's no way that can happen without the steel Oh. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that was a whole idea. It was 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: going to be building why Ala, the hydrolyser was going 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: to be there. It was going to supply power to 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: the steel works. I mean they can't export it because 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: there's no way you can transport hydrogen that has been 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: invented as yet, and it was there to produce green steel. 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: The Premier has told us that now you know, there 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: are serious issues with the steel works. The Premier needs 42 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: to actually go up there and talk to them. And 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: I think, you know, if he's at the footy tonight, 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: maybe he needs to march into Sanji Gufta's corporate box. 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: And so what's going on here? You know, you're spending 46 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: twelve and a half million buying John Wawes's old apartment 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: of Woolamoloo. You've got contractors. I mean that purchase could 48 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: have actually have paid for for one of those contractors 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: that has owed the money. Now we know all this 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: week right, there are issues that have arisen. Now only 51 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: the other day maybe another one hundred and six workers 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: at Golding's were notified that they were going to lose 53 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: their jobs next month. So it's getting pretty dire and 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the town are really worried 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: about the whole thing. I've also mentioned that there was 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: the quality assurance company that will no longer give any 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: assurances on the quality of the steel that's been produced. 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Not that there's much being produced because the main blast 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: furnace is now malfunctioning again and could be closed down 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: for six months. There issues with maintenance, so many issues 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: there and the government has just been totally silent. Now 62 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: I've raised it three times this week on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: and also in a matter of interest on Wednesday. Not 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: one question, not one word, has been raised in the 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: House of Assembly by any Labor member, any Liberal member, 66 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: and particularly the Member for Giles, Eddie Hughes. Nobody. Now, 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, there are people out there that are worried 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: making silleriously. 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Worried about and tell us about Golden frank the company 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: there with one hundred so they'd be a contractor obviously 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: to the providing services. What do they do. 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: They mine I in order, that's what they do, and 73 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: supply it. So they've already put off workers. There already 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: been white collar workers that have been put off. Horizon, 75 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: the rail company that ships freight in and out of 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: the steel works. They are old, they are owned more 77 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: than I think it's around fifteen million dollars. You know, 78 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: these companies can only. 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: Take so much. 80 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: The people of Whatler can only take so much. They 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: don't want to have a repeat of what happened on 82 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: the arium now, I'm told by talking to people up 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: there today, I said to them, well, give me an 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: idea of just how serious the situation is compared to 85 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: the days of Arum and they told me it's more 86 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: serious today than it was when Arion went into administration. 87 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Now that's how bad it is. 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: What do you think the meeting will achieve on Sunday. 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that I'm going to get not only 90 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: the you know, the townspeople they expressing their concerns, but 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: a lot of the businesses, the suppliers to the steel works, 92 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: the ongoing supply chain and others that will essentially seek 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: to have the government listen and offer some assistance to 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: them because right now they're getting nothing. They're absolutely getting nothing. Matthew. 95 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, I think I also raised about, you know, 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: the much more baunted steel task Force that the government 97 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: had set up when we did an FOI to find out, well, 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: what have you been discussing about Yala? Nothing? Absolutely nothing. 99 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: The FOI turned up nothing, no minutes, right, no record 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: of any meetings. You know, what have they been doing? 101 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: What are they doing? You know, I just can't express 102 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: how grave the situation is. It's not me trying to 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: beat it up. You know, I've got people from Wyala 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: calling me and they've been calling me for six years 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: May because you know, I was also raising it when 106 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Leon was on the broker was doing the morning show. 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: So it's not like it's nothing new, but it's now 108 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: just building a head of steam. And you know, reassurances 109 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: are required here and I think you know the premiere 110 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: well and good. You know you're going to go in 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: front of the port supporters in March today. We'll do 112 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: lot they did when mister Good marched into town, you know, 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen, where he marched up the streets 114 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: of Whyala with his family as the White Knight. Well, 115 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: they need a white Knight now maybe, and they need 116 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: a government that's going to say to them, look, we're 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: all right behind you. You know, if need be, we 118 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: might have to take a stake in the steel works 119 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: and also get the steel works up and running and 120 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: in preparation not only for the hydrolyzer but also for 121 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: the electric arc first. And we don't even know what's 122 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: happening there. 123 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: All right, Frank, thank you. We've got the Energy Minister 124 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: coming on in a little while, about an hour from now, 125 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: a bit under that, and there's some of the questions 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: I'll put to him. Thank you for your time. Tom Antonio, 127 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: former Whaler mayor. He's a local businessman in the town 128 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: as well. 129 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: Tom good morning, Good morning, how are your listeners? 130 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: And now very well, thank you. The it must be 131 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: very concerning for people in the town. I mean, it 132 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: sounds as if we're entering a period. We're in a 133 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: period of uncertainty about the future of the still works. 134 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean that to sound grim or fatalistic, but 135 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: it does sound very uncertain. 136 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: Well, you're absolutely correct when Mark meant the administrator was there. 137 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I was the acting there at the time, 138 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: and I thought, like you wouldn't believe the closure wasn't 139 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: on an option. But at that time we were producing 140 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: still everything was fine. He says that they lost a 141 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: lot of money and you know, it went into receiver. 142 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: The administrators come in, I work with them, and we 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: made sure that it didn't close. But now we're in 144 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: a situation where we've got no guarantee of any secure plant. 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: And the problem is you've now got people are not 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: being paid, and the smaller people, the smaller contractors, they're 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: the ones that have been put out to dry the 148 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: real major one. Some of them, I'll say, someone are 149 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: being paid on a dreft feed. But then you've got 150 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: the situation also where Jay weather Or came to six 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 3: seven years ago and this magnificent new Bus who promised 152 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: the biggest solar farm that will ever exist in Australia 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: and that hasn't materialized. And now they've gone from a 154 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: solar farm and they're promising us a hydrogen plant, which 155 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: you know, you've even got people questioning that you had 156 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: spears saying that it's a laying duck. We don't believe 157 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: it's going to happen, and if the plant falls over, 158 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: that will definitely not happen in my opinion, in other's opinion. 159 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: So you've got these people now that they've got been 160 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: given false sense of financial security. Now we've got families 161 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: here with children, they've got fea school fees of pay, 162 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: they've got mortgages of pay, they don't know where they are. 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: Day by day, you've got people taking in their own 164 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: taller papers because they've got no cleaners at the plant. 165 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: At the moment. People have been put on day ship. 166 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: The ships have been cut back. It just dies straight. 167 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: The people have been working there for forty and fifty 168 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: years have had enough, so they've walked away because they've 169 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: not been listened to. The plant is old, it's falling apart, 170 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: it's not secured. There's been more accidents in the plant 171 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: in the last probably four years than what they had 172 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: in the last fifteen years. So it's not even a 173 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: safe place to work. 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: So what's what sort of accidents? 175 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: Well, just people falling off balconies that you know, they're old, 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: they're rusted. There's a whole range of things that they're 177 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: not being put in place. You know, occupational health and 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: safety is very important no matter where you work with engineering. 179 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: A matter for safe work, isn't it Ultimately, well it is. 180 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: You're absolutely correct, But you know that's another hold of 181 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: different issues. You know, you've got to remember the plant 182 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: is very, very, very old, and that's the problem you've 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: got people. Look, when this price was on, Stephen Marshall 184 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: and his team came to Iowa and they addressed the 185 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: situation and tried to just what was happening, to give 186 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: firsthand information. Now at that time, Tom because Atonis did 187 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: come to Ioler, but Jay Wellwell did not come to Iowa, 188 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: and then he started bougering people off. I should have 189 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: been invited. Hang on a minute, why would you want 190 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: to be invited that you know, there's a crisis on 191 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: you should be on the front fot Look and Frank's right, Hey, 192 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: where's Melan Auskus? Why didn't he come to Wella right 193 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: now in the deepest class of ours and addressed to 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: people of Wala. 195 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: So people not being paid at the moment, you know 196 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: this for a fact. So people are waiting on money. Yeah, 197 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: how much I've heard from Frank about one hundred million 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: all up? What's that mean for individuals? For business? As 199 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: you talk about the families and kids. I mean, you 200 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: can't have certainty if that's the case of anything being there. 201 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: Is no certainty. Look, businesses in war work at the 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: moment they're closing down. You have to just go to 203 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: main street and have a main street. There's empty shops everywhere. 204 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: The freight contractors bring fred into Wawa are saying they've 205 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: never seen it so quiet. The freight that's coming in 206 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: for retailers is almost coming to a stand still. That's 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: not acceptable. You're going to remember the HP put more 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: royalties into the state coffers than anybody else in the state. 209 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: We built, We built South Australia. The BHP plants here 210 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: built South Australia and the royalties were taken out. They 211 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: haven't put hardly anything back. While it should be the 212 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: number two city in South Australia, we don't even have 213 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 3: a decent legire center. We've been promised a spoiling complex 214 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: that hasn't materialized. You know, you've got Eddie Hughes hiding 215 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,119 Speaker 3: behind some shadows somewhere. Now all of a sudden that 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: this media, the media has got hold of it. It's 217 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: come out of the dark woods and said, oh, book 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: that you should mean buying these apartments. You should be 219 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: paying your bills. 220 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Oh. 221 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: It's very disappointing that a local member has been highly 222 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 3: behind the shallows for so long. He should be on 223 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: the front foot. He should be in people's faces. He 224 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: should be saying, hey, we need this rectify. We need 225 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: to have guarantees that our people will have jobs. We 226 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: want guarantees that we will have a still work. Everything's 227 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: been promised, has the material. 228 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: Tom, Thank you for your time this morning. Really appreciate 229 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: that we run out of time. Thank you. And the 230 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: meeting on Sunday afternoon in the town. Frank Pangalo will 231 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: be there. That was Tom Antonio, former longtime acting mayor 232 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: in Wayala during the last crisis of Arium, when they 233 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: went under and Sandy emerged as the White Knight. But 234 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot of money owed to a lot of different people.