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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the heart of it. We would

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Speaker 2: like to acknowledge the Gadigle people of the Eur nation,

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Speaker 2: to the elders, both past and present. My name is

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Speaker 2: Cam Daddo.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Elie Daddo.

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Speaker 2: Are you doing, honey, I'm good. Which had the most

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Speaker 4: I know, I know it didn't go on long enough

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Speaker 4: for me. I love these two and they're repeat offenders.

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Speaker 3: They are.

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Speaker 2: We spoke to them back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Right, of course, we're talking about Mitch Tambo and his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and they've got four daughters between them.

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Speaker 2: I just loved Mitch talking about having to counsel his

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and tampon shopping and they're all on the same cycle.

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Speaker 4: Like holy cow, that's a lot of hormones.

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Speaker 2: In one in one house, right, Yeah, and some great

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure. And talks about you know, what's it

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Speaker 4: that are really powerful. They're an incredible couple. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Mitch has been hailed as Australia's most distinctive First Nations entertained.

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Speaker 4: And you've seen him live. You are lucky to see

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Speaker 2: I've seen him a couple of times now. Yeah, he's amazing.

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Speaker 2: And I he didn't take offense, but he did. He

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Speaker 2: looking like very much like George Michael and he's heyday

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Speaker 3: Really I didn't see him. Is that I didn't get Maybe.

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Speaker 2: It's the angle of the screen, but I mean George

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, if anyone could do it, Mitch could do it.

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Speaker 4: You're the voice in his native language, and that was

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Speaker 4: Yes, because Leila is a remarkable stinger. She's a proud

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Speaker 4: And yeah, she's got this incredible voice and now joined

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Speaker 4: forcesing Ireland Home.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And actually this is going to sound really weird,

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Speaker 2: Home was the song of theirs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I said, I know.

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Speaker 2: What I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: I should not even admit that, but somewhere in.

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Speaker 2: The white guy and the Rumpies wrote Island Home.

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Speaker 1: I just love the T shirt. That's so funny.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Mitch said about synergy.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of synergies happening in this chat today.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoy it absolutely.

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Speaker 4: You ready happy to be talking to you, Ali.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I do things too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, we last spoke in twenty twenty one. A

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Speaker 5: That's right, three years ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she's three now. So look, just to get

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Speaker 1: So we basically cross paths, and then once we crossed paths,

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Speaker 1: And you're so vulnerable because, like you know, they opened

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Speaker 1: This is the time. So we did that and it

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Speaker 6: And I knew it was him because you know, it

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Speaker 2: Just thirty seconds ago you were telling Allison.

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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, you should do it.

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Speaker 3: Go Alison. I'm back pedaling now, got it.

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Speaker 2: It must be weird sitting in an air because I'm

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Speaker 1: And you know what, like I was like all for it.

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Speaker 1: I want to do it all. But when you do

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Speaker 1: So you just see me just fighting to not you know,

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Speaker 1: let's do it again. I think I just need a minute.

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine if the ring had flown out of

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Speaker 5: Ready, Yes, it all up.

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Speaker 1: I snuck off got them the ring. They had this

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm looking at the beautiful ocean because we're over

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Speaker 5: I looked down. My thought, oh my gosh. You could

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Speaker 1: In my mind.

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Speaker 3: What am I wearing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've just had my face blown off from like

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Speaker 6: Fact it was so unattractive because you've seen those videos

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Speaker 6: your face is all like mangled looking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's full on hay.

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Speaker 1: Like I fully front slipped out of the plane. I'll

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Speaker 4: Cam's mum did it and she's unreal, like she's eighty.

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Speaker 4: But there's this photograph of her which is just it's

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Speaker 3: And so the boobs went up under her chin and

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Speaker 3: the face was like stewage to the exture.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, imagine this grin, like beautiful teeth, Like I.

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Speaker 3: Nearly couldn't breathe because the boobs recovery.

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Speaker 2: She got punched up by her boobs.

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Speaker 3: What a brave woman.

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Speaker 2: So when you did that, Leal, you had you were

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Speaker 2: a mother of three. You had three kids at that point, right,

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Speaker 2: and so now you've got four. We talked about Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: So you had Sophiana, Yes, yes, Opha yep. And is

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Speaker 2: it kilany ki yes?

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you've got that. You've got to spread now,

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Speaker 2: so nineteen to three, she's like, wow, So how are

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Speaker 2: you managing that's a big spread? Yep, that's for four

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Speaker 2: young ladies at very different stages of development. How are

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Speaker 3: Guys with really good shape, with nice.

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Speaker 2: That's for me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I waste it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, we just take everything one day at a time

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of learning to do. That happened, happening,

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Speaker 5: Everything is new for me.

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Speaker 6: I've had to I'm parenting the opposite way to how

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Speaker 1: I think again, like growing up in that footy locker room,

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Speaker 1: I've got three daughters. If you're OpEd them on my doorsteps,

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Speaker 1: I'll be booting you off. To be honest, dude, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, that's the exact man that we need.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that's exactly the response that we hope men will do,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been in that situation, Mitch, and I've also

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Speaker 2: Are you getting well?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 2: If you feel like you're getting better at it? And

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I'm actually starting to be really proud of the month

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Speaker 3: You're doing a lot of things, right, that's a huge

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And when their friends want to talk to you,

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Speaker 6: It's been an absolute beautiful experience because well, for us,

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Speaker 6: And then you know, with Offlere, she calls him Mitch,

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Speaker 6: but she goes to him. They all go to him

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Speaker 3: It's a different kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a different thing. It's maybe you know. Also, Mitch

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Speaker 2: like George Michael. I think I'm sitting there going vagued

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Speaker 2: off for a second there, No, but he does. That's

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Speaker 1: But I have to say, you know, it's beautiful and

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Speaker 1: But that all transpired only through Lele's unwavering belief in me.

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Speaker 1: I guess petrified when I look back of the thought

443
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: of failing or you know, I grew up with my

444
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: dad not around. Am I going to be there? It

445
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: doesn't work out like what happens here. And Lela never

446
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: doubted me once. She'd be like, I'd be like, what's

447
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: wrong you Like, you don't have anything. She's like, no,

448
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: I just feel it. You're gonna be great. And that

449
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: was all that ever was. I'll be there freaking out. No,

450
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: You're just going to be great. The girl's gonna love

451
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: young and just said what do you mean? What about this?

452
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: What about that? And next minute it's eight o'clock at

453
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: night and you're running to seven eleven because everything shut

454
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: and you've got to get some pads or something, and

455
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: you're the one that's getting the text message. All these

456
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: things have happened, and there you are. But it only

457
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: comes honestly through Lela's unwavering belief that I'd be okay

458
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: in it and that I would grow into it and

459
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: it'd all work out.

460
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: For some reason.

461
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: One as a mum, you just know, yeah, I agree.

462
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, for some reason, I

463
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: used to really love sending Cam out for tampons.

464
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: It just delighted me. I just was like, text me

465
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: what you need, honey. I'm like, oh yeah, here we go.

466
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: And it was in America too, So you've got three.

467
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: Get photographs of like do you want this saze? Do

468
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 4: you want your FaceTime?

469
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: Libra's on special?

470
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: Are you all cycling together? If you start?

471
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, trust me, I've got this.

472
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: He knows before we do.

473
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to get chocolate and les. What do you mean?

474
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: Like you's a p.

475
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: Message market on the calendar? Time to do chocolate for?

476
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 6: Or one of the girls, one of the older girls

477
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 6: will come down cranking and he's like what already?

478
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: It's like, it's only what it's only been like a week?

479
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: Hang on, is this something else?

480
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: Whom?

481
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: No?

482
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: I know this, I know this attitude? Wow, what's going

483
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: on why as I soon l they talk me through

484
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: what educate me?

485
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: Have you given advice to other families of step parenting

486
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: and blended families? Have people sort of looked to you

487
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: or asked your advice? So you've been able to help

488
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: other families out?

489
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Not so much just I guess around the step side

490
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: just in general. People have asked me questions, which is

491
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: always not weird, but I always find it to be

492
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: really you know, a big deal to answer those kinds

493
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: of questions. But my biggest thing has been in this

494
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: journey really seeing a lot of the stigma attached to

495
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: step and how people treat you when you just fall

496
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: under that title of step. You know. I've had interviews

497
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: on the radio where they're like, oh, it's you're a

498
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: stepparent and it's like National Foster Care a day tomorrow.

499
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: Can you talk us through what it's like to be

500
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: a stepparent? And I'm like, whoa foster gra? Yeah, you know,

501
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: but like just the idea around that, and like even

502
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: at home, like I said, the girls call me Dad, Mitch, Daddy, uncle, Dad.

503
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: I've got four different labels, but to me they're just

504
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: my daughters. I don't really see you know, and we're

505
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: blessed as well to have a great relationship with the

506
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: girls biological father too, and he totally just rocks and

507
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: rides with my position in the house. And you know,

508
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: something BIG's going down, I will just go out the front,

509
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: we'll have a chat and we're all together sort of

510
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: in it, which is a really beautiful thing because that

511
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: was a big fear for me too. It is like,

512
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, you hear about the horror stories, you know,

513
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: but we're really we're really blessed in that sense. But yeah,

514
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: when people ask me about parenting and stuff kind of

515
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: spins me. But I also try to answer with all

516
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: my heart because they're big questions.

517
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, and as you say, you're so correct.

518
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: We've had a few people, a few couples on the

519
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: show that have had the blended families, and it's they

520
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: always talk about the challenges, haven't they. And they've some

521
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 4: have sought help from therapists even but you know, it's

522
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: always been it's always been an incredibly beautiful experience for them.

523
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: But it's comes with its challenges.

524
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: Totally, and I think like it comes with understanding relationship.

525
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: Like let's said before, everyone's different so like one of

526
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: the girls could be inherently drawn to being, you know,

527
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Dad's girl. So me coming in is regardless going to

528
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: be a little bit turbulent because I need to know

529
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: if I can trust you and if you're going to

530
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: respect that my dad is my dad.

531
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

532
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: Others can be more like, I just love you and

533
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: you're another dad and let's just rock and roll. Others

534
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: could be like, man, we've just come out of a

535
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: hectic domestic relationship. Are you going to put us back through?

536
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: Like there's so many things to navigate. But I think

537
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: the thing that I had to keep coming back to

538
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: is that I'm not the kid anymore whose dad lives

539
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: four or five hours away. I'm the man and the

540
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: adult in this situation. So I have to continually get

541
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: a hold of me and get a hold of my

542
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: own trauma and let it go and go No, you're

543
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: you're the adult now. So if there's if there's a

544
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: bit of resistance or something has happened, it's not because

545
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm a jerk or I'm not liked or I'm I'm

546
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: It's because that there's a little person in front of

547
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: you that's having a bad day or something's going on.

548
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: But I had to get control of my own insecurity

549
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: and probably my own trauma and how certain things played

550
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: out for me growing up and realizing, no, dud, you're

551
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: actually the adult in here. So yeah, you got to

552
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: get a grip of this, because it's not I'm my mom,

553
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: im I'm it's you're you're in control or in a

554
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: position to really influence someone and make someone feel safe

555
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: and know that they're loved and it's all good.

556
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: That's a really wise thing to say. And it took

557
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: a therapist to help me to understand that, you know,

558
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: to let the wounded little boy go and step into

559
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: being the adult man. And it took a long time

560
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: for that to hit yes in my brain. How did

561
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: you come to that wisdom?

562
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Wisdom?

563
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: I mean, it is wisdom, though it is it's a

564
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: very help I mean, it's a kind action that you're

565
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: showing your kids, and it's a very grown up, wise

566
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: way to be.

567
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: I think that I've been on a pursuit of healing

568
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: for quite a while, but there was this beautiful turning point.

569
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: I guess that comes to mind, so i'ld start there,

570
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: and that was It was my birthday one year and

571
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Lela rocked up at home and she put rufras on

572
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: our little Toyota Corolla. I was like okay, and she

573
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: looked at me and she goes, Oh, you need to

574
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: pull your dad's surfboard out and you need to go

575
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: for a surf connect with your dad. And in that moment,

576
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: in the space of like two hours, I fought through

577
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: so many emotions that I had to realize and go,

578
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: this is grief. And it was like, Oh, it's going

579
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: to be too much of a headache to get the

580
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: board down there. You know, it's going to be about

581
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: the kids. Oh it's just too hot. Oh I have

582
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: to go and get straps for the roof racks. And

583
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you're doing everything to not confront

584
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: your grief and just get on the board. I have

585
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: to do it. So we took the board, went out

586
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: in the ocean. I was just like, Wow, I have

587
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: to really nourish my like five six seven eight, nineteen

588
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: eleven year old self. I need to go surfing again.

589
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: And I started to like just chase the things that

590
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: that version of me really wanted, Like I never had

591
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: my own surfboard before. I always had to borrow dads

592
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: because I was always the kid from the bush that

593
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: would go over there and have to meet his dad

594
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: again for the first time. It felt like feel accepted

595
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: by his stepbrothers. And you know, I was a chunkier kid.

596
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: They're all it had to get through all these insecurities.

597
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: But I always had this thing. I wanted a surfboard,

598
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: and Leather was like, just go and buy a surfboard.

599
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Get your own surfboard. So I went and bought the surfboard.

600
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: And I started on this journey and started to read

601
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: a couple of books like how to Do the Work

602
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: was like a ten dollar book in Kmart, and it

603
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: was all about self reflecting and understanding how you'd been

604
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: parented and what you went through and identify and how

605
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of determined a lot of your decision making

606
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: and how you think today. And then I started to

607
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: really look at like transgenerational trauma and the things that

608
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: are inherently just you know, brought down the line, and

609
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: how that can be pushed on. And I said to her,

610
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: I've got to do everything I can to not pass

611
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: on my business to the kids, you know, because whether

612
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: it's blood or not. You know, I've been with Clini

613
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: since she was too, so inherently she's going to take

614
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: on parts of my traits, whether we're blood or not,

615
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: because I'm with her like ninety nine percent of the time.

616
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: So I don't want to pass on all these things.

617
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: So I had to really start looking at myself and

618
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: that hasn't finished. It continues to today, to the food

619
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: I consume, to you know, the personal in the house,

620
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: to who I am on the stage, and just trying

621
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: to really make sure I guess everything's authentic. You know,

622
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: even with my team and stuff, I'll be like, no,

623
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm not doing those roles. I don't want to. I

624
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: don't want my girls to see me kiss another actress.

625
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: It's not not my thing. I don't want to be

626
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: someone different on a screen to who I am at home,

627
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: And that's just been my preference. I don't judge anyone

628
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: for it, like you do it, you got to do.

629
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: It's just me. I always want it to be like, nah,

630
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: he's just the same as he's at home. He's just

631
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: more animated on the stage. But I don't want them

632
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: to ever feel like like, oh, who is that? So

633
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I've just kind of been on this weird, crazy little

634
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: journey of healing I guess, yeah, beautifully beautifully.

635
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: Put for you.

636
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: You know, your experience of being a refugee has that

637
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: Do you think that's influenced the way you parent? Oh?

638
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 6: One, absolutely, And that would be because of how I

639
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 6: was parented, moving here, living in exile, being born in exile.

640
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 6: In hindsight now I can see that I was parented

641
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 6: by parents who were just absolutely fearful, you know, always

642
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: feeling like we didn't belong, always feeling out of place.

643
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: Every decision that I've made that I make for myself

644
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: and for my family is really well thought out for me,

645
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 6: because everything in my body wants to do the opposite thing,

646
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: if that makes sense. So yeah, there's a lot of

647
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 6: but I think for me personally, I have a very

648
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: strong faith in God. Yeah, and so that is what

649
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 6: gives me the encouragement, the bravery to just keep pushing

650
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 6: forward because knowing what my parents had to go through

651
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: and how they their life up until my dad passed away,

652
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 6: I just don't want to repeat that for my children.

653
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes that takes a lot of energy, doesn't it.

654
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: Absolutely a lot of energy, a lot of you know,

655
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: there's a lot of grief in that as well. It's

656
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: you know, even though as a child I had the

657
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: most amazing childhood, I remember always being happy around my

658
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 6: family and my community for how this world is now,

659
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 6: how crazy it is and how you know, it's so

660
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 6: hard to let your kids, especially living in Melbourne in

661
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 6: a big city, coming from Canberra, there's even a lot

662
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 6: of like pushing through your own fears of like letting

663
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 6: your kid go on a train, you know, Just so

664
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 6: those decision making things that you go through on the daily,

665
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: you know, they're like little breakthroughs that you're that you're

666
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 6: pushing through every day.

667
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: Totally.

668
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: Can I ask you you're a cultural blend? You to

669
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: you come from very traditional backgrounds, different backgrounds as well.

670
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: Have you have your career? Is there a family Is

671
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: there a unified blended tradition that you guys do as

672
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: a family now which brings the two together well.

673
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 6: In our household, I think culture and faith are very

674
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: very strong and they that's how it works together in

675
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 6: our home and so we have a lot of family

676
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: time together where we you know, share, but we're all

677
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 6: and with that, we have elements of Mitch's culture and

678
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 6: the kids have learned to love that as well and

679
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 6: embrace that as their own. So that's been really beautiful

680
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 6: when we if Mitch, you want to share about when

681
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: we are smoking to.

682
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So I mean, I guess to answer

683
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: the question, it's there's not necessarily like a tradition. It's

684
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: just we live and breathe culture every single day at

685
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: our house. And like, you know, I'm not Tonguan sofie

686
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: offen Klani their father's tongue, but I'll be in the

687
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: house learning tongue in with kilany or you know, celebrating

688
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: their culture. The girls aren't inherently Kouri, but they know

689
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: all my songs in language. If it's like Nate oc

690
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Day or something going on at school, it's not like

691
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: go and get the flag and walk out. They're naturally

692
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: just chuck on a jersey or something and they'll just

693
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: wear it and represent it. And like SOFTI the other

694
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: week was talking about getting a tattoo and it was like, Oh,

695
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: I want to put this tongue and thing in there,

696
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: this best puppul and I think I want to get

697
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: this Aboriginal style art. And I was like, wow, you'd

698
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: actually like put in elements of my culture on your

699
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: skin forever. And it's it's not even like it's said

700
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: in this big, big momentous speech of this is something special,

701
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: It's just inherently there. It's like, you know, Lela's family

702
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: are very god fearing people. But then if they pray

703
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll be like, oh, can you like to call

704
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: them on and do a smoking ceremony, so like everything's

705
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: just completely blended. They might sing it one of their

706
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: songs in West Papua, job and Fall and how can

707
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: we chuck some digch in there? You know, like it's

708
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: just all there, just naturally. Yeah, it's just a big celebration,

709
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: big melting pot.

710
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: Beautiful.

711
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: If there's one thing that you hope the kids learn

712
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: from you and take into their own adulthood and when

713
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: they become parents, what would you love that to be

714
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: For me?

715
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I think it's just to hit things head on, to

716
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: not be governed by fear and anxiety, but to just

717
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: live a life of what if and hope and stepping

718
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: into things and just being completely proud of who you

719
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: are and where you come from, and just being bold

720
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: enough to step out and who you want to be.

721
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: I think that that would be really beautiful because it

722
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: took me a lot to break the shackles of anxiety,

723
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and I guess fear off my life, and I realized that,

724
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, I was governed and shackled by a lot

725
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: of things I went through as a young person. So

726
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to hope that the work Lether and I

727
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: have put into ourselves as individuals and into our relationship

728
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: breaks those shackles inherently and they can just walk and

729
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: be what they need to be and be free in that.

730
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean, because even Lelly and I hear and lel

731
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: speak before about her journey as a refugee, like even me,

732
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: Mom and I, we did it tough. We had this

733
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: crib we caught at the shack. It was like this

734
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty year old house still had horse

735
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: here in the plast and just like fifty five degrees

736
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: in the kitchen in summer, and you're putting up blankets

737
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: as curtains to block off hallways to keep cool in

738
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: just one little room. And you know, you get into

739
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: this position where Lella and I are now, and I

740
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, go to JD Sports to

741
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: buy some shoes, and I could sit there with le

742
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: flat half an hour like trying to say why I

743
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: shouldn't buy it. Because financially, I'm just scared, just scared

744
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: to spend the money, Like, geez, what is tomorrow?

745
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: Bring?

746
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Should we do it? Like and there? But are you serious?

747
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Like we're okay, but I'm like, it would take me

748
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: so long to spend money because of the fear around that.

749
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: So I hope that we can create something where the

750
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: kids can just be free. Yeah about you Lether.

751
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for me, I would want the kids

752
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 6: to just learn to get out of their own way,

753
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 6: because that's my biggest that was my biggest roadblock was me,

754
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: you know, being able to achieve things and just having

755
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: all these excuses as to why I can't be this

756
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 6: person to being on this stage or you know, speak

757
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 6: at this event, or you know. I think getting out

758
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 6: of your own way is a huge thing for me

759
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 6: that I would not want the kids to.

760
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: To hold on to.

761
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, and first and foremost though, knowing who they're knowing

762
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 6: who they are. You know, I think you should be

763
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 6: able to travel anywhere around in the world and adapt

764
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: to any kind of community, and you can do that

765
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 6: if you know deep in your heart and your soul

766
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: and your spirit who you are. I think that would

767
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 6: be the most important thing that I would want to

768
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 6: pass on to my children is for them to be

769
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 6: really strong in their identity.

770
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, beautiful.

771
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: I think you're. I think you're You're setting a wonderful

772
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: example to them by working together and creating together. You've

773
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: got you've done a re recording of Island Home, which we.

774
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: Just gone gangbusters right, Yeah, so beautiful.

775
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: I pumped it in our house the other this is

776
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: the song. I love it, such a beautiful version. And

777
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: you got to say your performance at the at the

778
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: Radio Awards last year was sensational.

779
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.

780
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: I was right up pushed up against the stage. There

781
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: was just great.

782
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: Were you in the mush pit between fits and whipper?

783
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: I was moshed between fits and whipper and watching you

784
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: up there on the stage, It's just sensational, so much energy.

785
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Thank you.

786
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: What's what's the dream for you two? Working together?

787
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Have you just done it?

788
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? So? I mean when we first got together, we

789
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: would just sit in the car and just speak for

790
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: hours about what life could be like and what we

791
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: could achieve together, and you know, the standard we could

792
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: set for our family. And we just speak and speak

793
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: and speak, and as we go it's just all unfolding.

794
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: And it's all coming to be and I think there's

795
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: something really beautiful about doing life together. And we found

796
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: collectively so many people like, oh my god, Like you

797
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: work with your wife, that must be so hard, Like

798
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: you never have a break, and it's you know, like

799
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: you get married for a reason, right, because you actually

800
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: want to be with that person. But for us, it's like,

801
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, to be doing it together collectively and individually

802
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: and both supporting each other, it's just the best. It's amazing.

803
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: And I've always said, you know, as my career is elevated,

804
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: I've said to her, like it doesn't stop. We've got

805
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: to work and we've got to get your music out

806
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: there in your voice, because you've got such a beautiful

807
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: story and journey and vision for all people. We've got

808
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: to work hard to make sure both of us are

809
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: doing our thing, and and here we are, and to

810
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: have this song out together. It's really the icing on

811
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: the cake because Lela's come with me everywhere overseas, different

812
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: places to support me and do BVS. But now she's

813
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: standing beside me on the stage and we're doing it

814
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: together and there's something really special about that.

815
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: Did the kids sing?

816
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: Yes?

817
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: They all see yeah, that's next.

818
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be it is next. Sofi has been

819
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: on stage with us, she's done a few shows. Yeah, yeah, Kilaney,

820
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: She's h she calls me uncle dad. She's like pumping

821
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: herself up. Like weekly, she'll come up to me. She's like,

822
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: uncle Dad, like care, I'm ready now, and I'm not

823
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: ready for what. She's like, I think I'm ready to

824
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: get on the stage. And it all kicked it off

825
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: because I think she asked a question with one hundred

826
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: percent surety. I was going to say, you're too young,

827
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: you have to wait, to your sister's aid, and she

828
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: was like, uncle Dad, I want to come on the

829
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: stage too, And I said, awesome, you just let me

830
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: know when you're ready, and I start chucking you on.

831
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: She's like, huh, I said, what you can come chare

832
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: with me. She's like, oh yeah, well, I think I'm

833
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: a little bit thier. Have to think about it.

834
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: And then she'll come back and she'll be up. I've

835
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 5: thought about it.

836
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: It takes a deep breath. I've had a big think

837
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: about it, and I think I'm ready.

838
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: I'm ready.

839
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: And what happened at the most random times, What are

840
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: you thinking about now? Just like, I think I'm ready

841
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: to come on the stand.

842
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think last time we spoke, you were talking

843
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: a lot about risk, taking risks and being willing to

844
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: take risks. And I'm you know, I'm sure it's about

845
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: the sounds of it. That's that's where it's heading for

846
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: those guys too.

847
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 6: Yeah.

848
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, you've both of you just set such a

849
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 4: beautiful example for all four of you girls. You know,

850
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: they're seeing you exactly take risks, of seeing you be creative,

851
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: being loving, being kind, being supportive. I mean the example

852
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: that you're setting is it's it's really beautiful. And as

853
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: you say, you know, just that just because culture is there,

854
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: you know, having that to blend it into into the house,

855
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 4: I think that's something that you know, in hindsight. For me,

856
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: we weren't a religious family. We didn't have any celebrations,

857
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: we didn't have any we didn't do a lot as

858
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: growing up. It was just there weren't there weren't big

859
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: things that we could look forward to or know that

860
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: was a tradition and I always wanted that and I

861
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: wanted that as a parent as well. And we just

862
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: do little things like Big Mama's Breakfast on special occasions,

863
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: but I think kids really hang their hat on traditions

864
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: and things like that, and the fact you've brought that

865
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: in so beautifully for your girls is really special.

866
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: Thank you. And we're trying to create our own, like

867
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: family traditions within that as well. So this last Christmas,

868
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: we kicked off our first ever Christmas Olympics. Yeah, and

869
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: that was just absolutely insane. I'm talking like fifty minute

870
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: fifty to sixty minute musical chairs like Battle to the

871
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: Absolute Sunstroke. I love it, and that apple bobbing yeah,

872
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: red heart racing making like it went on to the

873
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: point where we just couldn't finish. Like normally when all

874
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: the mob comes around, they're leaving at like two am

875
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: in the morning. Everyone was gone about eight pm in

876
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: bed see you later passing out on the couch.

877
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: Was it was full of oh that's so cool, guys,

878
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: will put you on the pulse, Will put you on

879
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 2: the pulse. Keep your answers short. Yes, just a couple

880
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 2: of questions. What do you miss when you're not together?

881
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Come on in here, she's sipping water.

882
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: I know she's looking at me like you take the no,

883
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: let's do it. You're on the pulse.

884
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 5: What do we miss when we're not together each other.

885
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: The chaos.

886
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: What brings you joy?

887
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Living a life of purpose?

888
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 5: My husband and family?

889
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: What my purpose?

890
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: What? What time would you like to revisit?

891
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: Well, you go, Lily, you're on the pulse.

892
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: I would have to say any time where my dad

893
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: was still alive.

894
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: I was going to say, there's this there's this memory

895
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I have and it's me and Dad sitting out the back,

896
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: sitting on our surfboards and not always coming back to

897
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: that feeling the piece.

898
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: I'd go back there, both of you, connection to your

899
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: Dad's very special. Last question one word.

900
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: To describe each other unconditional.

901
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: Magnificent.

902
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, I'm going to buy you.

903
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: It's going to be a good trip home.

904
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: Again. Mitch. I have to say this to you as well.

905
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: The last time we spoke to you, you said something

906
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 4: that has stayed with me forever, and I've quoted you

907
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 4: on it because I thought it was just so beautiful.

908
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: You were talking about how you go to country when

909
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 4: you're when you're you know, there's a bit of mental

910
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: health or something, and you know, you go to country

911
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: and you go for a swim and swim in a

912
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: river or something, and you said you said Country's here

913
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: for everyone. And you said to Cam and I You're like,

914
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: if you're feeling low, just go to country, go lie

915
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: on the on the grass, go under a tree, or

916
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: and I just it was just this, really, I don't know,

917
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: it was so simple, but it was so beautiful. And

918
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 4: I think about that all the time now that it's like, yeah,

919
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: I'm just going to go and get my mental health

920
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: through nature. I mean, I've always found it that way anyway,

921
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: but it was just coming from you.

922
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: It just was really special.

923
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: So thank you for saying, Ah, thank you for sharing

924
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: that with me. I appreciate that. Yeah, I still stand

925
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: by it too.

926
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no doubt you two are the best. Thank

927
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: you for coming back. I just love your Instagram stuff

928
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 4: that just if you're not following, love you guys to

929
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: follow them both. They've got they're just kind, good people.

930
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: Their music's unreal.

931
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.

932
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 5: You're always supporting my stuff. Of course commenting and that

933
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 5: means a lot for sure.

934
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh my pleasure.

935
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Where you at?

936
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: Cam?

937
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: I need you to hit my page now, I will.

938
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Ali's over there, I need you.

939
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: Cam's not a big commenter, tho, you know, I'm like

940
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 4: one there because I get really excited.

941
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've actually didn't give me anything. Then it's

942
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: just like.

943
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: I will. I've been on a detox absolutely since since

944
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: I got of December, been on a social media detox.

945
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 2: But wait, March one will hit and it's guns amazing.

946
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've actually just tried to turn off every

947
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: single notification I possibly can. It's good.

948
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: Good for a bit.

949
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because I feel like I'm like the

950
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: last kind of generation that kicked out the street lights

951
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: in the cult a sack. It's like, so I really

952
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: struggle with like you can come up with to me

953
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: with the camera and I'm all good with that, but

954
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: to put it in selfie mode, yes, I really struggle

955
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: me too.

956
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 2: I'm having That's where I'm yeah, yeah, I know.

957
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 3: And that's what it's all about these days in this industry.

958
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: And it's like.

959
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: Thing, I think it's absolutely am I am I because

960
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: some people go just rubbing my face in it and

961
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: other people go and I just want you to know

962
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: because I want you to I want to share. I

963
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: want to share what's going on and this is great,

964
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: and you know, even if it's not great, you just

965
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: want to share what's going on so totally.

966
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: And I think as creatives, our whole sort of premises

967
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: is we love connection and we love people and we

968
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: love having that interaction. But there's just a real disconnect

969
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: there where I've got to just put it in selfimode

970
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: and connect that way struggle and it's like we actually

971
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: we went I went Bush a month or something ago

972
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: for like a week, and outside of not having Lela

973
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and the girls, I didn't really miss anything. I was

974
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: like that if I had them with me. This is

975
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: just something about stripping it back to nothing but fire

976
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: and just connection with those in front of you. Something

977
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: really special about that, And like we when you think

978
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: about it now, with phones and stuff, even when you're

979
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: at the dinner table, how often do you actually talk

980
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: and spend time looking at in each other's eyegate and

981
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: actually having a personal human connection. Like it's it's very

982
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: scary in terms of where the most connect did have

983
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: ever been, but also the most disconnected.

984
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, where's loss and had around there?

985
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: Brother, come and comment cam, Let's go.

986
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: Alright, guys, have a great day.

987
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, you guys. Thank you. Love by