1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, November thirteen. There's been a five billion dollar 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: hike in public sector wages for Commonwealth public servants, the 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Australians revealing today there are twenty six thousand new public 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: servants in Canberra. The hardhead, the Hawks, the ice maiden, 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: the interrogator, and the anti vaxxer. Today on the Front 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: we meet Team Trump's starting lineup and find out how 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: they all start reshaping the world. One of the things 9 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is most famous for is firing people. Wondering 10 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: what you would say to President Obama, you're firing. His 11 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: first term set new turnover records, and some high ranking 12 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: White House staff set records of their own. For the 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: shortest ever terms in office, Trump sacked four chiefs of staff, 14 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: a Secretary of Veterans Affairs, the Inspector General of the 15 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Intelligence Community, and many more. Now, as President elect, Donald 16 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: Trump has to find a new team, and the names 17 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: are coming in fast. Florida Senator Marco Rubio will be 18 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, the first person of Latino extraction in 19 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: the job. Rubio previously ran for the Republican nomination in 20 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen against Trump. He called Trump a con artist 21 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: and the. 22 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Most vulgar person ever aspired to the presidency in terms 23 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: of how he's carried out his candidacy. 24 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Elise Stephanik has also had a change of heart 25 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: about Trump, turning from an establishment Republican moderate to one 26 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: of Trump's most vocal allies and a powerful advocate for 27 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: the gun lobby. She'll be Trump's ambassador to the United 28 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Nations and top of her agenda will be Israel. 29 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: She's been critical of the way that the United Nations 30 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: has responded to the Israel question following the October seven, 31 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three attack on Israel by Hamas, and she's 32 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: taken up a sort of attack dog PERSONA. 33 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is the Australian's National affairs editor. He's in Washington, DC. 34 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: She's very direct and to the point. I think that's 35 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: something that has endeared her to Donald Trump, and probably 36 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Australians might remember her from those hearings where she was 37 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: questioning the leaders of some of America's top universities about 38 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: their policies related to criticism of Israel. 39 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: That's not what you were asked. 40 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: You were asked, were there any anti Jewish protests? 41 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: And you said no. 42 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: So the protest was. 43 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Not labeled as an anti Jewish protest. 44 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm not asking what it was labeled, and the Israeli 45 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: government the question wasn't what it was labeled. She is 46 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: also a staunch Trump political ally. She has stuck with 47 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and defended him through two impeachment processes. She 48 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: is only forty years old, and she is a senior Republican. 49 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: She's the fourth ranking House Republican. She is being rewarded 50 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: and Donald Trump has great confidence in her and her abilities. Obviously, 51 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: at the UN, we're living through a period of great 52 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: global uncertainty where there are conflicts in the Middle East 53 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: and also in Eastern Europe. So these are the questions 54 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: that she'll be dealing with. Claire. 55 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: I noticed in her statement accepting the job, Joe, she 56 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: described Donald Trump's policy or philosophy as America first, peace 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: through strength leadership on the world stage. 58 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: What does that mean, good question, Claire. It is the slogan, 59 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: the line if you like that is being repeated by 60 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: so many people, including by jd Vance Peace through Strength. 61 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Governor Walts can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart 62 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability 63 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: back to a very broken world. 64 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: But mostly it is an attempt to remind people, not 65 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: only Americans, but I think people all around the world 66 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: that a lot of these conflicts and disturbances that have 67 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: happened have happened under Joe Biden's watch. And the people 68 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: associated with Donald Trump and Donald Trump himself, of course, 69 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: are making the point that he was president during a 70 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: period of relative global stability, and so their narrative, their 71 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: political argument is this was because people didn't want to 72 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: start things while Donald Trump was in power. So I 73 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: think this is the political slogan to suggest to people 74 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump will be an American strong man, that 75 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: he will be someone that other world leaders won't want 76 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: to go around starting things on his watch. Legal assyls 77 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: are not charged with any crime when you're in the country. 78 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: I legalist violation eight United States Cold thirteen twenty five. 79 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: Seeking asylum is legal. 80 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: You want zikusim goal through the port of entry, do 81 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: it the legal way. 82 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: This is Tom Homan So. He was a former acting 83 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: director of the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He 84 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: was also a contributor to the Heritage Foundation's twenty twenty 85 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: five Conservative Blueprint, where he contributed some ideas on immigration reform, 86 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: and he has given interviews today making clear that he 87 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: will take a very tough line on the border. But specifically, 88 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump says that he will be charged with conducting 89 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: mass deportations, and this was really one of the contentious 90 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: parts of the Trumpian agenda. But Tom Homan today has 91 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: made clear that he is willing to conduct these deportations, 92 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: and he's appealed to democratic estates and democratic cities to 93 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: cooperate with the new Trump administration to help them conduct 94 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: these deportations. And he says that if they don't, they'll 95 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: just ramp up the number of agents they need to 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: go about and do this. So the example he used 97 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: this morning was a New York City. So there have 98 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: been a lot of migrants coming into New York City 99 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: in the last couple of years. The New York Times 100 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: was reporting just over the weekend that it was two 101 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: hundred thousand since twenty twenty two, and that so much 102 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: money has been spent on shelters. This, in some part 103 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: explains why Trump was able to pick up so much 104 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: support in some of these democratic strongholds that we're experiencing 105 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: influxes in immigration. So Tom Homan today is saying that 106 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: they will act with or without the support of these 107 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: democratic states and cities. Obviously he would prefer their support, 108 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: but he is going to take a tough approach. 109 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor is another crucial position in the government. 110 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Joe and Donald Trump is appointed Mike Waltz, who's himself 111 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: a former soldier. He's a bit of a China Hawk. 112 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: What does that mean for the United States as news 113 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: stance on China? 114 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: Do you think, Well, Claire, this is a very important position, 115 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: national Security Advisor, and it's also a role that doesn't 116 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: require Senate approval. Mike Waltz is by background, someone with 117 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: arguably an aggressive disposition when it comes to questions of 118 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: a national defense. The first Green Beret to serve in Congress. 119 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: He's also a former White House and Pentagon policy advisor. 120 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: He had multiple tours in Afghanistan. He served in the 121 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Middle East and in Africa. He won four Bronze Stars. 122 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: So I think given his credentials, this is the sort 123 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: of person that Donald Trump will be attracted to. 124 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: Coming up meeting the Ice Maiden in Donald Trump's White House. 125 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: Remember how Trump sacked for White House chiefs of staff 126 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: in term one. Well, for term two he's appointed a 127 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: rusted on loyalist, Susie Wiles, who steer his re election campaign. 128 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: She'll be the first woman in the job. 129 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: Apparently she's one of the few people who's able to 130 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: say no to Donald Trump. That's a positive quality to 131 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: have in a chief of staff Claire, but again, she's 132 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: seen as someone who is loyal to him. 133 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Susie likes to stay sort of in the back. 134 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 2: Let me tell you the ace Stade. 135 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: We call it the ace wed La. 136 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: We saw. In the weeks leading up to the November 137 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: five election, one of his former chief of staff's, John Kelly, 138 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: gave very damning interviews in which he discussed Donald Trump's 139 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: fascist tendencies. At least according to John Kelly. 140 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: He shouldn't be not authoritarian, admires people who are dictators. 141 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: He has said that, so he certainly falls into the 142 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: general definition of fascist for sure. 143 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: So Donald Trump has confidence that's Ceasey Wilds is a 144 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: completely different, more trustworthy appointment as chief of staff, someone 145 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: that he views will never engage in that sort of 146 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: rehtoric or discussion about him. 147 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: And finally Joe. 148 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: Robert F. 149 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Kennedy is somebody who ran for president himself, didn't get 150 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: many votes, but on the podium while accepting victory, Donald 151 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Trump suggested that he would be put in charge of health. 152 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: He didn't really outline exactly what that was going to mean. Bobby, 153 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: stay away from the liquid gold, other than that go 154 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: have a good time Bobby. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Is 155 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: of course an anti vaxer. He's also opposed to fluoridation 156 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: of the water. 157 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: I think fluoride is a poison. Ione was saying that 158 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: if a fluoride drug crashes on the highway, they have 159 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: to clear the highway for miles around. 160 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy doesn't have much experience with the government. I 161 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: spoke to Mike Green last week. So Mike Green worked 162 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: for the Bush White House, he worked on campaigns for 163 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, and he was pretty frank in his assessment 164 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: of Robert Kennedy. Said that he would be someone that 165 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: was granted access to the Oval office, but someone at 166 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: the end of the day, with very little experience about 167 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: how government works. So I think Donald Trump will be 168 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: cognizant of that. He'll need to be aware of the 169 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: political capital and currency that Robert Kennedy brings to him 170 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: after dropping out of the race and endorsing Trump. But 171 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: he'll also need to be aware of the limitations of 172 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy, and also he would be aware of some 173 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: of the concerns over Robert Kennedy's positions in relation to vaccines. 174 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: There is a lot of discussion in the American media 175 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: over the last few days about Robert Kennedy's position on 176 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: vaccines and the concern that is generating. So I think 177 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: this is a delicate balancing act for Donald Trump to 178 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: go share. 179 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is The Australian's National Affairs editor. He's in Washington, DC. 180 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Australia has a big decision to make about its own 181 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: appointment to the court of Donald Trump, Ambassador Kevin Rudd, 182 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: who's previously expressed his disdain for the President elect. For now, 183 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi's standing by Rudd. You can follow the latest 184 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: on that unfolding story right now at The Australian dot 185 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: com dot au