Speaker 1: Why on Sky News Bits Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Well, there are two things I want to talk about tonight,
Speaker 3: the elimination of terror leader Hassan Nasrallah and the utterly
Speaker 3: despicable reaction to it here in Australia. While most sensible
Speaker 3: observers welcomed Nasrulla's death on our streets, thousands of morons
Speaker 3: in Sydney and Melbourne mourned him tonight. The AFP and
Speaker 3: New Southelles Police have launched investigations into breaches of counter
Speaker 3: terror laws by those supporting Hesblah. But it's beyond comprehension
Speaker 3: how thousands and thousands of people in Sydney and Melbourne
Speaker 3: chanted allegiance to this bloodthirsty terror group. One Sydney speaker
Speaker 3: described Nasrullah, the murderous leader, as the hero of heroes.
Speaker 4: Have a look, will tell you.
Speaker 5: In the name of the person that you have just
Speaker 5: involved the hero of the hero that died yesterday.
Speaker 3: Well, as you saw in that footage and you can
Speaker 3: see again here and what I'm going to show you,
Speaker 3: our fellow citizens are holding signs Withzraela's face. They're chanting
Speaker 3: in support of Hezwela they're also saying all Zionists are terrorists.
Speaker 4: Have a look.
Speaker 3: The editor of the Adelaide Advertiser, my friend Jemma Jones,
Speaker 3: took that footage and she said Melbourne law enforcement was
Speaker 3: stopping trams for these vile protesters. They had police lining
Speaker 3: the route. Then here's footage with terror flags being waived
Speaker 3: by masked men and Green Senator Marine Ferruki even spoke
Speaker 3: at one rally that was packed with Hezbela supporters.
Speaker 6: We keep hearing this nonsense.
Speaker 7: We keep hearing this nonsense about social cohesion.
Speaker 6: From the Labor government. Their meaning of social cohesion is
Speaker 6: shutting up those raising their voice against genocide.
Speaker 3: How does she have the high to speak about social cohesion.
Speaker 2: At a rally like that.
Speaker 3: This is a move that should see her kicked out
Speaker 3: of Parliament and potentially be investigated under Australian laws.
Speaker 2: Now Bejronette Yahoo.
Speaker 3: The Israeli Prime Minister could have had Ferouki in mind
Speaker 3: when he spoke of the hypocrisy of these moronic Western
Speaker 3: protesters who march against Israel.
Speaker 1: We see at another profound moral confusion when self described
Speaker 1: progressives march against the democracy of Israel, don't they realize
Speaker 1: their support the Iranian backed goons in Tehran and in Gaza,
Speaker 1: the goons who got down protesters, murder women for not
Speaker 1: covering their hair and hang gays in public squares. Some progressives.
Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to his speech in a moment.
Speaker 3: It was powerful, but even Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi condemned
Speaker 3: the gross spectacle of the protest over the weekend.
Speaker 8: We do not want people to bring radical ideologies and
Speaker 8: conflict here. Our multiculturalism and social cohesion cannot be taken
Speaker 8: for granted, and it's important that we continue to stress
Speaker 8: that that is the case.
Speaker 3: How can he say we don't want these conflicts here
Speaker 3: while bringing in or granting almost three thousand visitor visas
Speaker 3: to Gazans without proper or in some cases any security checks. Now,
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister condemned those protests, yet has failed at
Speaker 3: every point over the past year to encourage law enforcement
Speaker 3: to arrest those who breach the peace, who support terrorism. Now,
Speaker 3: let's be completely clear here, Albanizi has failed as Prime minister.
Speaker 3: This is on his watch, it is his responsibility. It's
Speaker 3: a disgrace and he should be held accountable. Now, Australians
Speaker 3: of all faiths were so shocked by this display of
Speaker 3: support for terrorism that Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke wanted
Speaker 3: to sound tough and he said he'd consider counseling the
Speaker 3: visas of anyone inciting discord in our country.
Speaker 2: Yet he has never done this, and it sounds like.
Speaker 3: He may even support those who are upset by Israel's
Speaker 3: efforts to defeat Hesblah in Lebanon, judging by what Sky
Speaker 3: News commentator Joe Hildebrand said here last night.
Speaker 9: I was talking to Tony Burke about this last week actually,
Speaker 9: but just the difference between people for whom this is
Speaker 9: a very very political issues, and especially for the obnoxious,
Speaker 9: annoying upper middle class socialists, for whom you know, the
Speaker 9: War on Gaza's their generation's Vietnam and they just love
Speaker 9: giving them something else to protest about, and they'll protest
Speaker 9: about something else the next time around. But for the
Speaker 9: people who and it was the people in his elector
Speaker 9: in particularly, which is very large and Muslim, A lot
Speaker 9: of people from Lebannin know this is you know, these
Speaker 9: are their family members, these are their community, and there's
Speaker 9: just no point in saying but you know, yes, I
Speaker 9: know your uncle was killed, but he was on the
Speaker 9: wrong side of this political argument that just does not.
Speaker 2: Fly seriously well.
Speaker 3: In the face of this nonsense, Peter Dutton is looking
Speaker 3: more and more like a leader. He urged police to
Speaker 3: arrest terror supporters, showing once again his moral superiority over
Speaker 3: the Albaneze government. Dutton said Parliament should be recalled if
Speaker 3: our current laws aren't strong enough.
Speaker 10: The fact that we've got people out marching on the
Speaker 10: street at the moment holding up photos of a terrorist leader,
Speaker 10: I mean imagine the outrage if the photos being held
Speaker 10: up of somebody like Issama bin Laden or Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 10: These people are responsible for hundreds, if not thousands of
Speaker 10: people being killed. Hezbollah is a list of terrorist organized
Speaker 10: in our country. And if we've got people here who
Speaker 10: think that that organization is okay and they're saddened by
Speaker 10: the death of this terrorist, if they're on a visa,
Speaker 10: they should be deported because if we knew about that
Speaker 10: when they made their visa application, they wouldn't get it
Speaker 10: to come here in the first place. I find it
Speaker 10: completely unacceptable that the government wouldn't be arresting people already
Speaker 10: or canceling visas of people who are glorifying Hezblah and
Speaker 10: Hamas and others.
Speaker 3: And here's one hundred percent right. Peter Dutton has shown
Speaker 3: courage ever since October seventh, and thank god there's one
Speaker 3: leader who has. The AFP initially today issued a statement
Speaker 3: saying they don't believe believe that any laws have been broken.
Speaker 3: Well they've now backtracked and tonight announced they are investigating
Speaker 3: six just six reports of potentially breaching counter terror laws
Speaker 3: and New South As Police is also investigatating instances of
Speaker 3: a terror symbol being displayed. But for the past year, police,
Speaker 3: both state and federal seem to have held the view
Speaker 3: that Australian laws should be upheld when it comes to
Speaker 3: all facet of life except for the support of a
Speaker 3: bloodthirsty regime.
Speaker 2: Well this isn't good enough.
Speaker 3: As Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson said tonight on
Speaker 3: Chris Kenny's program, there.
Speaker 11: Are extremists and they become emboldened when they think there
Speaker 11: are no consequences for their behavior. So it's time for
Speaker 11: the Prime Minister, the Home Affairs Minister, the Attorney General
Speaker 11: to make very clear the community's expectations to the police.
Speaker 11: But the law be enforced that people be charged, that
Speaker 11: there'll be consequences for this abhorrent behavior.
Speaker 3: Here in Australia and in many parts of the world,
Speaker 3: political leaders have shown an apathy for tackling terror supporters,
Speaker 3: even though it's against the law. As Stephen Lowe said
Speaker 3: in his address to the University of New South Wales
Speaker 3: on Thursday, there's been a monumental failure of leadership which
Speaker 3: has allowed this sort of antisemitism.
Speaker 4: Rot to fester.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: It is also a sad fact that there has generally
Speaker 3: been leeke lukewarm denunciation of antisemitism at best by the
Speaker 3: leadership of many of our institutions. Half hearted rejection of
Speaker 3: antisemitism is never enough, as history has shown, or too
Speaker 3: well now, there was one thing that Stephen Lowe said
Speaker 3: in his speech that has really resonated with me. He
Speaker 3: said that had he given his major speech a year ago,
Speaker 3: it would have been inconceivable for him to even mention
Speaker 3: antisemitism or the erosion of Australian values. He said, Yet
Speaker 3: here we are in Australia in twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 3: as we approach the anniversary of October seven, I too
Speaker 3: have spent so much time, as you know on air
Speaker 3: the past year, just despairing at the world we live
Speaker 3: in now and how quite frankly, it doesn't always feel
Speaker 3: safe for my community.
Speaker 2: And then to look at.
Speaker 3: The thousands and thousands of people marching on Australian streets
Speaker 3: in support of a terror regime that has brutally murdered
Speaker 3: innocent people, including just recently twelve Israeli Drew's children. Well,
Speaker 3: the site is just shocking, inexplicable and devastating.
Speaker 2: What has happened to our country.
Speaker 3: Only the strongest possible leadership and full enforcement of the
Speaker 3: law could possibly hope to restore order to.
Speaker 2: This wretched mess.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's be utterly clear, the elimination of
Speaker 3: Hesbalalida Hassan Nasralla is a major coup for is Israel.
Speaker 3: It should be celebrated by all who opposed terrorism and
Speaker 3: value freedom and democracy.
Speaker 2: This is one of the many reasons.
Speaker 3: Israel also deserves the support of all Australians at its
Speaker 3: hour of need. Well, on Friday, yet again Israel outwitted
Speaker 3: its enemies. That strategy behind the execution of Nazrella showed
Speaker 3: sheer brilliance. Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo signed off
Speaker 3: on the hit from his hotel room, as you can
Speaker 3: see in this picture. Moments later, he walked into the
Speaker 3: hostile halls of the United Nations to deliver a speech
Speaker 3: for the Ages. It was the most important oration that
Speaker 3: fraudulent body the Yun has heard since the war began.
Speaker 3: And as he delivered the speech with his ominous warning
Speaker 3: for the Iranian backed terror groups that Israel is winning,
Speaker 3: where Nasralla sat in his basement in Beirut watching on,
Speaker 3: unbeknownst to the terror leader, Miss Isles shrieked across the
Speaker 3: sky and blasted the Hesbela Quartas where he was bunkered down,
Speaker 3: ending his thirty two year reign of terror. Well, isn't
Speaker 3: it magnificent that Nazraella's final moments on this earth were
Speaker 3: spent watching net in Yahoo. The timing and execution of
Speaker 3: this precision attack was masterful. It was an act of
Speaker 3: ultimate strength in the face of terror. The moment the
Speaker 3: IDF confirmed Israela's death on Saturday evening our time, it
Speaker 3: sparked celebrations among Jewish communities globally. In Israel, there was
Speaker 3: music and dancing, and one TV host did a La
Speaker 3: Kaiyam live on air when the news broke, and this
Speaker 3: is a moment for celebration on par with the murder
Speaker 3: of Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 2: Only bin Laden has.
Speaker 3: Killed more Americans and more French than Hesbelah. Yet The
Speaker 3: New York Times reported today that American President Joe Biden had.
Speaker 2: Called Netta Yahoo and warned him.
Speaker 3: That killing Nazralla would set off a regional war. Biden
Speaker 3: reportedly asked him to hold fire.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: America's weakness is on full display, and it stands in
Speaker 3: contrast to what we're now witnessing on a daily basis.
Speaker 3: Israel's determination to survive. Netanyahu has shown that he's a
Speaker 3: leader for the times.
Speaker 2: Like former US President Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3: The strategy guiding him is peace through strength, and we're
Speaker 3: seeing that in spades. The weak international community capitulating to
Speaker 3: terrorism demanded a ceasefire from Israel the moment it began
Speaker 3: to respond to the eight thousand Hesbela rockets fired over
Speaker 3: the past year, but there was no demand for a
Speaker 3: ceasefire while Hesbelah was attacking Israel. Only when Israel dared
Speaker 3: to respond, dared to defend its citizens. Unette Nyahu ignores
Speaker 3: the feeble international community and its confusion, and instead he
Speaker 3: took out all of Hesbela's senior leadership with a series
Speaker 3: of attacks.
Speaker 2: Each more genius than the last.
Speaker 3: He aims to remove the terror threat not just for Israelis,
Speaker 3: but for all of us in the West.
Speaker 2: Peace through strength. There can be no other way.
Speaker 3: In the wake of October seven and the subs sequent
Speaker 3: Hezblah onslaught and in his powerful United Nations address, Netigna,
Speaker 3: who spoke about how his objective is peace. It's a
Speaker 3: path he was on the way to achieving through the
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabian normalization deal before the Iranian back October seven
Speaker 3: attacks changed everything. Natiya who outlined how Hamas was now.
Speaker 2: A diminished organization.
Speaker 3: He said twenty three of its twenty four battalions have
Speaker 3: been destroyed and ninety percent of its rocket arsenal gone.
Speaker 3: But he says the job isn't finished, and he vowed
Speaker 3: that Hamas will not stay in power in Gaza.
Speaker 1: And the reason is simple, because if Ramas stays in power,
Speaker 1: it will regroup, re armed, and attackers will again and
Speaker 1: again and again as it is vowed to do so,
Speaker 1: Haramas has got to go. Just imagine for those who say, well,
Speaker 1: Hamas has to stay, it has to be part of
Speaker 1: a post war Gaza imagined in a post war situation
Speaker 1: in World War Two. Imagine allowing the defeated Nazis in
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five to rebuild Germany. It's inconceivable, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Then it's not going to happen now.
Speaker 3: Brilliant Natna who said Israel seeks it de radicalized and
Speaker 3: de militarized Gaza, but not one way.
Speaker 2: Israel is in control.
Speaker 3: He said he's ready to work with partners to support
Speaker 3: a local civilian administration in Gaza that's committed to a
Speaker 3: peaceful coexistence. And as for calls for an immediate ceasefire
Speaker 3: or Natna who said this, ladies.
Speaker 1: And gentlemen, this war can come to an end now.
Speaker 1: All that has to happen is for Hamasta surrender, lay
Speaker 1: down its arms and release all the hostages. But if
Speaker 1: they don't, but if they don't, we will fight until
Speaker 1: we achieve victory. Total victory. There is no substitute for it.
Speaker 3: And the Israeli Prime Minister imploed the world to stop
Speaker 3: appeasing Iran and stop its nuclear program now I keep
Speaker 3: pointing out over and over again on this show how
Speaker 3: the United Nations, set up in the wake of World
Speaker 3: War II in the Holocaust is now an enabler for terrorism.
Speaker 3: It protects those who deserve no protection. Well, Nettna who
Speaker 3: made a similar point very well.
Speaker 1: In this battle between good and evil, there must be
Speaker 1: no equivocation. When you stand with Israel, you stand for
Speaker 1: your own values and your own interests. Yes, we're defending ourselves,
Speaker 1: but we're also defending you against a common enemy that,
Speaker 1: through violence and terror, seeks to destroy our way of life.
Speaker 1: So there should be no confusion about this, But unfortunately
Speaker 1: there is a lot of it in many countries, and
Speaker 1: in this very hall, as I've just heard, good is
Speaker 1: portrayed as evil and evil is portrayed as good. We
Speaker 1: see this moral confusion when Israel is falsely accused of genocide,
Speaker 1: when we defend ourselves against enemies who tried to commit
Speaker 1: genocide against us.
Speaker 3: And look at those empty seats, by the way, and
Speaker 3: Penny Wang didn't bother to attend that address. I've got
Speaker 3: those exclusive details. I'm going to talk about them later
Speaker 3: in the show. I've got the response from the Foreign
Speaker 3: Minister's office.
Speaker 2: But what he says is right.
Speaker 3: And moral confusion is now a hallmark of the disgraced
Speaker 3: United Nations. And Natiyao who spoke about how they have
Speaker 3: been at twice as many resolutions passed against Israel at
Speaker 3: the UN General Assembly in the past decade, then the
Speaker 3: entire world combined one hundred and seventy all condemnations of
Speaker 3: Israel compared with seventy three against the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: These remarks that he made here were utterly brilliant.
Speaker 1: The singling out of the one and only Jewish State
Speaker 1: continues to be a moral stain on the United Nations.
Speaker 1: It has made this once respected institution contemptible in the
Speaker 1: eyes of decent people everywhere. But for the Palestinians, this
Speaker 1: UN house of darkness is home court. They know that
Speaker 1: in this swamp of anti Semitic bile, there's an automatic
Speaker 1: majority willing to demonize the Jewish State and anything in
Speaker 1: this anti Israel flat earth society, Any false charge, any
Speaker 1: outlandish allegation, can muster a majority.
Speaker 3: Anti Israel flat earth society. He's exactly right, and it's
Speaker 3: a point I keep discussing over and over again. Now,
Speaker 3: Nathna who ended his speech with this inspirational message.
Speaker 1: But I have a message for you. Israel will win
Speaker 1: this battle. Will win this battle because we don't have
Speaker 1: a choice. After generations, after generations in which our people
Speaker 1: were slaughtered, remorseless, butchered, and no one raised a finger
Speaker 1: in our defense, we now have a state. We now
Speaker 1: have a brave army, an army of incomparable courage, and
Speaker 1: we are defending ourselves. To borrow a great poet's phrase,
Speaker 1: Israel will not go gently into that good night. We
Speaker 1: will never we will never need to rage against the
Speaker 1: dying of the lights, because the torture of Israel will
Speaker 1: forever shine. Right.
Speaker 3: That is an important mesas that I urge the likes
Speaker 3: of Marine Feruki and Penny Wog to listen closely to.
Speaker 2: And it's also a.
Speaker 3: Message that should give all of us courage as we
Speaker 3: face what often seems like an overwhelming barrache of hatred
Speaker 3: for Israel and anti Semitism. And it's worse than hatred
Speaker 3: for Israel. It's an obsession for it not to exist.
Speaker 3: It's support for the terrorists who seek to destroy it
Speaker 3: and destroy Jews everywhere. But Israel will survive, it will
Speaker 3: prosper in spite of the depravity of evil terror regimes
Speaker 3: and in spite of the best efforts of corrupt international bodies.
Speaker 3: All right, we've still got a big show tonight, will
Speaker 3: cross live to Israel to see what's happening on the ground.
Speaker 3: My political Inside Is panel, including Cameron Milner, who's been
Speaker 3: making a lot of news today. He's going to join
Speaker 3: me a bit later to break down the bad polling
Speaker 3: for the High Minister. But first let's bring in Sky
Speaker 3: News host Steve Price and senior fellow at the Menzies
Speaker 3: Research Center Nick Cater to discuss these despicable protests. Steve Price,
Speaker 3: you're in Melbourne. People were trying to enjoy the Grand
Speaker 3: Final and they had to deal with this disgrace on
Speaker 3: the streets.
Speaker 12: I barely recognized the Australia that I grew up in
Speaker 12: over the last weekend. I mean, it was just unbelievable.
Speaker 12: And we've got the AFP tonight releasing a statement saying
Speaker 12: that they're waiting for some complaints from the Victoria Police
Speaker 12: before they'll investigate. You've got to ask the question, what's
Speaker 12: the point of having these federal hate laws which are
Speaker 12: in the hands then of the AFP to implement if
Speaker 12: they're not going to use them. I mean, this is
Speaker 12: the state of Victoria and these protests were just as
Speaker 12: bad in Sydney. This is the state of Victoria that
Speaker 12: set the Victorian police on a group of people protesting
Speaker 12: about being locked up for COVID and fired rubber bullets
Speaker 12: at them and dragon people along the street, arrested them,
Speaker 12: charged them, find them. But they can't make one arrest.
Speaker 12: After what happened at the weekend with people holding photographs
Speaker 12: of Nazrula. I mean, seriously, what are the AFP doing?
Speaker 12: I mean, and look, an excellent opening to your show tonight, Cherry,
Speaker 12: and I could point out that while you were speaking
Speaker 12: to the Daily Telegraph has reported that at the Kingsgrove
Speaker 12: Mosque in Sydney, more than a thousand people have crowded
Speaker 12: into the mosque. The streets out the front are overflowing
Speaker 12: with people. For what purpose? They're at a memorial service
Speaker 12: at one of three mosques in Sydney tonight for the
Speaker 12: death of that dreadful terrorist who's murdered thousands of people.
Speaker 12: How can that be?
Speaker 2: Well said?
Speaker 3: Now, Nick Kita, you know, we welcome the fact that
Speaker 3: the AFP and the New South igs police have tonight
Speaker 3: said that they're going to investigate, but we saw an
Speaker 3: investigation after the Upper House protest. We saw the police
Speaker 3: stand up and gaslight Jewish community by claiming there was
Speaker 3: nothing offensive. Actually said Nikita, do you have any faith
Speaker 3: the authorities will actually do their jobs and charge anyone.
Speaker 7: I've got no faith whatsoever. I'm afraid, and I'm really
Speaker 7: sorry to have to say this, Shari, no faith at
Speaker 7: all in the New South Wales police and their ability
Speaker 7: to prosecute these people fairly. I think we saw on
Speaker 7: those days after October seventh last year that they are.
Speaker 7: There is a two tier policing system. You know, you're
Speaker 7: allowed to throw flares at police if you're protesting in
Speaker 7: favor of a terrorist state. But you know, I mean
Speaker 7: if you want to get out there as we some
Speaker 7: people did two years ago or three years ago against COVID,
Speaker 7: you know, they'll send the police horses in against you.
Speaker 7: The police force, I'm afraid, has been captured by this
Speaker 7: woke ideology. They are too scared to take on certain
Speaker 7: sections of the community because they're you know, they're Middle
Speaker 7: Eastern or you know, the ethnic groups of some kind
Speaker 7: or another, and they're not prepared to take them on.
Speaker 7: They must, the law must be enforced, and we must
Speaker 7: really focus on ensuring that people who come to this
Speaker 7: country from now on are going to absorb our values
Speaker 7: and recognize our way of life and not be at
Speaker 7: war with our way of life, which I'm afraid is
Speaker 7: what we're seeing quite frighteningly on our streets right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's not going to happen under the Albanzi
Speaker 3: government under Tony Burke. And the point that both of
Speaker 3: you make about how we have seen that police can
Speaker 3: be tough, unnecessarily so during the COVID pandemic, but we've
Speaker 3: seen what they can do, they haven't done it in
Speaker 3: the past year. And I'm going to come back to
Speaker 3: what's happening on the ground in Israel a bit later
Speaker 3: in the show, but now let's turn to Australian Politics
Speaker 3: News poll out today and it showed that voters in
Speaker 3: New South Wales and Victoria are turning their backs on the.
Speaker 2: Alben Ezi government.
Speaker 3: The latest figures revealing that Labour's primary vote has fallen
Speaker 3: to thirty percent and thirty one percent respect actively. Middle
Speaker 3: aged and ethnic voters are said to be those leaving
Speaker 3: Labor Steve Price, what are these figures tell you about
Speaker 3: and maybe about you know, how many seats it could
Speaker 3: cost Labor in the next election.
Speaker 6: Well, what it tells you is.
Speaker 12: The leadership of Anthony Albanezi is in enormous trouble. I mean,
Speaker 12: he's not a leader. And what you've just been talking
Speaker 12: about at the start of this show just adds to
Speaker 12: the opinion of the Australian people that have got a
Speaker 12: weak prime minister. So what the poll is showing that
Speaker 12: is in particular in Queensland, New South Wales and in
Speaker 12: Western Australia, less so in the great socialist state of Victoria,
Speaker 12: but a little bit that people aged between fifty and
Speaker 12: sixty four in particular are turning against this government. I mean,
Speaker 12: Jim Chalmers can stand up there every day of the
Speaker 12: week if he wants and talks about how he's delivered
Speaker 12: two surpluses in a row. People are hurting. Cost of
Speaker 12: living is still the biggest issue and they see a
Speaker 12: government that is saying, oh, we've pat ourselves on the
Speaker 12: back over a surplus, but what they're not doing is
Speaker 12: helping people with cost of living problems. And you know,
Speaker 12: if you go through the seats and I know we've
Speaker 12: done this on the program before. It's not hard to
Speaker 12: find that this election could be a very interesting result
Speaker 12: when you look at news poland News Pole is only
Speaker 12: going to get worse while Anthony Albanese is in charge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, there's potentially another six months or so, maybe
Speaker 3: seven or eight months until the election, Nick Cata, do
Speaker 3: you think at the moment it's looking like there could
Speaker 3: be enough seats for Dartin to scrape through with a
Speaker 3: minority government or do you think it's still looking like
Speaker 3: it's an Albanisi's favorite at the moment, which is what
Speaker 3: the Poles are pointing to.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you've been talking about a minority labor
Speaker 7: government on the present Poles. So I don't see the
Speaker 7: coalition being able to win on those numbers Shari. Although
Speaker 7: they'll win a fair few seats couple in Western Australia,
Speaker 7: probably a couple in New South Wales, will probably win
Speaker 7: lions in Tasmania and so on, but there won't be
Speaker 7: enough to get them over the line. But it is,
Speaker 7: as you say, it's a snapshot, and we have to ask, well,
Speaker 7: what can Albanezy do to turn this around? By may
Speaker 7: or whenever he's going to call the election. It's very
Speaker 7: hard to see. The economy is not going his way.
Speaker 7: He's not coming up with anything which is really inspiring
Speaker 7: the Australian people and the real leader in this country
Speaker 7: right at this moment, as it has been really since,
Speaker 7: the voice is Peter Dutton. And the measure of that
Speaker 7: is the extent to which whenever labor is out there,
Speaker 7: it spends most of its time responding to Peter Dutton.
Speaker 7: Arguing to think about Peter Dutton and the number one
Speaker 7: rule of advertising. That's right, the number one rule of
Speaker 7: advertising when you and I are working on the Sunday
Speaker 7: Telegraph is you never mentioned your opposition. So you know
Speaker 7: that they are clearly in trouble and they don't have
Speaker 7: a response to Peter Dutton, and it's going to cause
Speaker 7: some more sorts of grief.
Speaker 3: Indeed, what's probably the only hope of winning is trying
Speaker 3: to attack the man, and as they did with Scott Morrison.
Speaker 3: Very quickly, before we go, Steve Price, I want to
Speaker 3: get your view about these plans to honor Daniel Andrews
Speaker 3: with a bronze statue in the CBD in Melbourne. Look,
Speaker 3: this is given to Edy Premier who lasts three thousand
Speaker 3: days in office, but it's expected to cost tax payers
Speaker 3: more than one hundred thousand dollars. Do you think he
Speaker 3: deserves it, Steve? And what's the reaction from people you've
Speaker 3: spoken to?
Speaker 12: It's a slap in the face to every Victorian. I
Speaker 12: was overseas when this story broke and I just could
Speaker 12: not believe it. I mean, I got angry enough when
Speaker 12: Dan Andrews wanted to join my golf club and I
Speaker 12: threatened to quit and he never got let in. I
Speaker 12: think I'm going to have to threaten to leave Victoria
Speaker 12: if they build this bronze statue. I mean I might
Speaker 12: have to return to Adelaide or come and live in Sydney.
Speaker 12: I don't know, but I mean the people of Victoria
Speaker 12: have every right to be absolutely bloody angry. If this
Speaker 12: Jacinda Allen government spends one cent and palls one drop
Speaker 12: of bronze to make a statue of the bloke that
Speaker 12: locked the state up for the longest time of any
Speaker 12: where in the world, it would be an absolute disgrace.
Speaker 12: We laugh about it, but it's just appalling that that
Speaker 12: bloke would be poured in bronze anywhere. And I'll tell
Speaker 12: you what, they're just asking him for trouble book, because
Speaker 12: if a statue of him was erected, aside from the pigeons,
Speaker 12: there'll be plenty of other people throwing stuff at it.
Speaker 3: Oh, good point, good point, all right, Nick Kata, Steve Price.
Speaker 2: Great to see you both.
Speaker 3: Now, the negative gearing debacle is testing the Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: But is it giving Jim Chalmers a chance to show
Speaker 3: off he's leadership credentials? Will Cameron Milner, who's been making
Speaker 3: news with this leadership speculation, He's going to join me
Speaker 3: on the show that's coming up after the break, and
Speaker 3: I'm also going to cross live to Israel, where an
Speaker 3: expert in Lebanese Israeli politics will join me live. We'll
Speaker 3: look at how Israel is crippling Hesbala.
Speaker 2: That's next.
Speaker 3: All right, let's return to the Middle East, where the
Speaker 3: situation has escalated further.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 3: Hamas claimed that their leader in Lebanon, for tasha If
Speaker 3: Abu Alamine, was killed in an airstrike in his South
Speaker 3: Lebanon home. And this comes, of course, after Israel took
Speaker 3: out Hassan Nasrala, as we've been speaking about over the weekend,
Speaker 3: and Israel is reportedly now preparing for a ground invasion
Speaker 3: in Lebanon. Well, for more detail, I'm joined by Jonathan L. Kuri,
Speaker 3: an expert on Lebanon and public Deploymacy. Jonathan, thank you
Speaker 3: for your time. You're joining us from Tel Aviv. Look,
Speaker 3: let's start with the big question now is Iran. Do
Speaker 3: you expect that Iran will respond to Israel's execution of
Speaker 3: Nasrallah or do you think it's not. You know that
Speaker 3: Hesbala was its main fighting body and it's now to
Speaker 3: a certain extent, been emasculated.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, first of all, thank you for having me Shry.
Speaker 6: I have to start by seeing that as a Lebanese
Speaker 6: and Adam Israeli, this is a huge churning point of
Speaker 6: events of what we are seeing in the Middleast and
Speaker 6: in the region. I do believe that the assasination of
Speaker 6: Hassan Asala by Israel could be a huge churning point
Speaker 6: for Lebanon itself in order to reclaim back Lebanon to
Speaker 6: the Lebanese people. This is something that is super crucial
Speaker 6: because up to now Lebanon has been held by the
Speaker 6: Islamic Republic of Iran. Hassan Asalah and Chrismola are one
Speaker 6: hundred percent a plan of the Islamic Republic of Iran,
Speaker 6: and they started as a bran of the Ayatola. So
Speaker 6: this is something that we're expecting to see some sort
Speaker 6: of a reaction from the Islamic Republic of Iran on that.
Speaker 6: But I do believe that they will be really concerned
Speaker 6: in actually responding themselves with missiles that we saw in
Speaker 6: last April, because at the end of the day, they
Speaker 6: know that Israel will not hesitate to respond back. And
Speaker 6: we heard Benjamina Taniel, the Prime Minister of Israel, on
Speaker 6: the UN stage, saying to this republic, if you're gonna
Speaker 6: hit us, we're gonna hit you back. And this is
Speaker 6: something that I believe they will take into really depth considerations.
Speaker 6: But it's also important to understand that, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: this something could lead. This assassination of Hassan Asalah could
Speaker 6: lead for hopefully a better future for both Israel, Lebanon
Speaker 6: and the whole region. Because we've seen enormous celebrations all
Speaker 6: across the Syria, the Arab world, and also in Iran
Speaker 6: itself of regular Iranians that said, why is our leaders
Speaker 6: sending money to fund a terrorist organization across the world
Speaker 6: and not taking care of our needs and desires. And
Speaker 6: this is something that goes without further saying even and I.
Speaker 3: Think that has been under reported in the Western media.
Speaker 3: You know, the sense is that the Lebanese are very
Speaker 3: upset by this will not actually Lebanese Christians and other
Speaker 3: Lebanese you know height has been and what they've done
Speaker 3: to their beloved country. So I think that is an
Speaker 3: important point that you make. What are we seeing tonight
Speaker 3: with Israel? What do you expect with this potential ground invasion?
Speaker 6: Christie, I don't think that the Western media or Western
Speaker 6: people understand the role of Habela and Lebanon when they
Speaker 6: started to operate since nineteen eighty two. Hesabel was responsible
Speaker 6: for political assassinations in Lebanon that were responsible for assassinations
Speaker 6: of regular men and women. They were responsible for butchering
Speaker 6: thousands of people in Syria, of kids, women and children
Speaker 6: that had nothing to do with the war, just because
Speaker 6: they wanted to make sure that Asad would maintain his regime.
Speaker 6: This is something that I don't believe a lot of
Speaker 6: people in the West really understands of how horrible the
Speaker 6: terms organization that is considered to be one of the
Speaker 6: biggest ters organizations in the world. Today's Israel's action, I
Speaker 6: believe should be towards making sure that Lebanon will take
Speaker 6: the lead in order to Libanese military to take over
Speaker 6: what's going on in south of Lebanon. But also it's
Speaker 6: really important to understand that Hisbella currently has tens of
Speaker 6: thousands of soldiers. They are really equipped soldiers that are
Speaker 6: holding points in Lebanese territory, occupying Lebanese territory that doesn't
Speaker 6: have any Lebanese sovereignty anymore. This is in south of Lebanon,
Speaker 6: in east of Lebanon, of the Lebanese Valley, and also
Speaker 6: in Beirut in the Dahya territory. A lot of people say,
Speaker 6: when Israel is hitting Hezbela places, they are breaking Lebanese sovereignty. Well,
Speaker 6: heal's the deal. There's no Lebanese sovereignty on Hebella occupied places.
Speaker 6: This is something that really need to be understood by
Speaker 6: a lot of people. I do believe what we just
Speaker 6: heard an hour ago, sorry, just heard an hour ago
Speaker 6: Lebanese Prime Minister in Najibnikati saying that after the war,
Speaker 6: the Lebanese military will be deployed throughout the border and
Speaker 6: will retain and try to retain back the control. I
Speaker 6: do believe that this is something that the international community
Speaker 6: should join Israel and Lebanon in order to make sure
Speaker 6: that Lebanon claims back its autonomy, that Lebanon brings back
Speaker 6: its sovereignty and bringing Lebanon back to the Lebanese. On
Speaker 6: a personal note, I had to flee Lebanon because of Himla,
Speaker 6: because of Hassan a Salalah, because they have turned national
Speaker 6: Lebanese people who wanted Lebanon to be independent without any
Speaker 6: control of the Islamic Republic of Iran. They turned them
Speaker 6: into traitors and they persecuted them. That's why I had
Speaker 6: to flee Lebanon in two thousand and one, just because
Speaker 6: of that reason.
Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan L.
Speaker 3: Coori, thank you for your courage ever since then, for
Speaker 3: your courage speaking out while you were still in Lebanon,
Speaker 3: and we appreciate your time tonight. Now, is there a
Speaker 3: split between the Treasurer and the Prime Minister? Well, Cameron
Speaker 3: Milna thinks so, and he'll join me next. Plus, Donald
Speaker 3: Trump resorts to personal attacks after Kamala Harris tries to
Speaker 3: talk tough on the border. We're going to speak about
Speaker 3: all of this on the show that's coming up.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Let's bring in tonight's political Insiders panel, joining me as
Speaker 3: always the gf XO Strategies Director, former Chief of Staff
Speaker 3: for Bill Shotton, Cameron Milner, and DPG Advisory Solutions from
Speaker 3: advisor for John Howard, David Gazzard.
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both.
Speaker 3: Well, Cameron, you've made the news this week big time,
Speaker 3: and I want to start with your piece in the
Speaker 3: news papers today about the Prime Minister's inability to lead.
Speaker 3: I mean you say under pressure, I'd say to lead
Speaker 3: full stop. But you actually compare his frazzled response about
Speaker 3: the negative gearing saga to how Jim Chalmers responded, and
Speaker 3: you write that ALBINIZI is infamously never across the detail
Speaker 3: while his treasurer is never caught out on the detail,
Speaker 3: and you say the only time Charmers looks the least
Speaker 3: bit ruffled is when he's having to take the hits
Speaker 3: for his hapless leader. Cameron, can you explain your thesis
Speaker 3: further to us tonight and whether you do think that
Speaker 3: there's negative gearing, you know, debacle was a well timed
Speaker 3: political hit.
Speaker 13: Well, I think it was, and I wrote about in
Speaker 13: today's paper because the timing was perfect. His human shields
Speaker 13: were overseas, being Richard Miles and Penny Wong and Albert
Speaker 13: had to take all the questions and all the heat
Speaker 13: for forty eight hours, and it was terrible, Like he melted,
Speaker 13: melted in front of our eyes. It was disaster on
Speaker 13: Peter Stefanovic. The guy lied and slid and slided, and
Speaker 13: then he had to go at the journalists for asking
Speaker 13: hard questions. No, he was terrible last week, whereas, by contrast,
Speaker 13: Jim Charmers was in China doing a deal to save
Speaker 13: our economy. He was in China raising serious issues about
Speaker 13: the Chinese military engaging with our raft jets, putting an
Speaker 13: ICBM missile across the specific. He was doing what leaders
Speaker 13: do shari and showing up the Prime Minister. Absolute contrast, So,
Speaker 13: while Chalmers delivered Alberze, did it look if it was
Speaker 13: a drop David Gazzard, look, it would seem pretty stupid
Speaker 13: political strategy because it came out on the same day
Speaker 13: that the Treasurer was proudly announcing that CPI that inflation
Speaker 13: had fallen to two point seven percent.
Speaker 2: It was a good news day, rare for this government.
Speaker 14: Yeah, although I wouldn't see inflation as a particularly good
Speaker 14: story for this government. The LBA has contradicted the government
Speaker 14: on that and interest rates are staying high. If you
Speaker 14: wanted to set off some hairs and fly some kites,
Speaker 14: it was the perfect time to do it, as Cameron
Speaker 14: had suggested. I think it does highlight the fact that,
Speaker 14: you know, I think if you caught him over a beer,
Speaker 14: Anthony Albanezi would be the first one to say that
Speaker 14: economic policy really doesn't interest him. It never has. He
Speaker 14: doesn't take an active role in erc I had the
Speaker 14: privilege and pleasure of working for both Peter Costello and
Speaker 14: John Howard. They would never have been caught out on
Speaker 14: an issue like that because they both understood hasing policy.
Speaker 14: They both understood economic policy and could have taken the questions.
Speaker 14: And I don't think either of them would have been
Speaker 14: crazy enough to take on a policy that affects thirty
Speaker 14: percent of all homeowners in the first place. But Anthony
Speaker 14: Albanezi did look very uncomfortable dealing with it. It's the end,
Speaker 14: coming to the end of the first term, and there's
Speaker 14: already outbreaks where there's a frustrated a prime minister referring
Speaker 14: questions onto the Treasurer who's in the air so demanding
Speaker 14: that people ask Jim Chalmers that the tough questions which
Speaker 14: he obviously struggled with.
Speaker 2: Cameron.
Speaker 3: You know you clearly, and you've spoken about it on
Speaker 3: this show. You don't think the Prime minister's up to
Speaker 3: the job own either, But do you think there is
Speaker 3: a growing sense within Labor that perhaps someone else could
Speaker 3: do a better job and that they might need to
Speaker 3: consider someone else ahead of the next election.
Speaker 13: Well, I think Albanize has given his very best. He's
Speaker 13: just not good enough. That's all his very best. He's
Speaker 13: actually not good enough for Labor Party or to leaders
Speaker 13: to a majority again. This bloke is going to struggle
Speaker 13: to govern with the Greens and the Teals. That's his
Speaker 13: plan to remain PM. So Labour's got a desperate situation here.
Speaker 13: The best that Alby can do is minority government and
Speaker 13: a disaster as well. The best he can do is
Speaker 13: fumble his way through lines and lie to voters in
Speaker 13: the middle of a non campaign week, let alone what
Speaker 13: the campaign would be like. So Labor is desperately frustrated
Speaker 13: and worried that this guy's just not up to the job.
Speaker 13: And you've got people like Jim Chalmers who are on
Speaker 13: the job all the time, who are capable, and so
Speaker 13: it's not like Labor hasn't got options. And Charmers, I
Speaker 13: think is the most obvious choice for Labor, and Shari
Speaker 13: only requires caucus to vote fifty plus one, set aside
Speaker 13: the RD rules and vote a new system into choosing
Speaker 13: the next Prime Minister Australia. So it's a very simple
Speaker 13: thing for Labour Caucus to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll keep reporting on this and following it. Now,
Speaker 3: I want to go to an exclusive I've got tonight.
Speaker 3: I play you parts of Benjamin nette Yaw who's powerful
Speaker 3: speech of the United Nations earlier. Well, I can reveal
Speaker 3: that Foreign Minister Pennywong didn't bother to sit in for
Speaker 3: that address. Now her office tells me that instead she
Speaker 3: was attending the Pacific Islands for a meeting with the
Speaker 3: United Nations Secretary General. During Netanyahu's statement, they say that
Speaker 3: Australia is a founding member of the Pacific Islands Forum,
Speaker 3: and can you believe this? They say Australia was represented
Speaker 3: in the General Assembly by Senator David Force It, Well,
Speaker 3: what a surprise, not a labor figure. David Gazard, what
Speaker 3: do you think of this snub by Penny Wong. She
Speaker 3: met the Palestinian leadership while she was over there, that
Speaker 3: Palestinian Prime minister. She posted about it on social media.
Speaker 3: Can't even set to listen to what nad and Yahoo
Speaker 3: had to say when she's constantly criticizing Israel.
Speaker 14: Well, it's deeply concerning and it probably is just a
Speaker 14: solid display of the moral leadership that we've had that
Speaker 14: has led to protests over the weekend where people are
Speaker 14: openly mourning a terrorist leader and sympathize a butcher of
Speaker 14: people across the Middle East. I mean, this is a
Speaker 14: this is a terrible development for our country. I would
Speaker 14: have thought that the conflagration, if you can call it
Speaker 14: that in the Middle East, it's more serious than that,
Speaker 14: would would so overwhelm anything that was happening in the
Speaker 14: in the Pacific Islands, that that our foreign minister would
Speaker 14: would feel duty bound to be there. I mean, this
Speaker 14: is this is this is a dispute that's occupying the Quad,
Speaker 14: it's occupying the G seven. It's of serious import and
Speaker 14: we we it's in stark contrast to Australia's position in
Speaker 14: the past, where the United States was attacked by terrorists
Speaker 14: and we responded by going to war against Iraq. So
Speaker 14: I just can't I can't believe the position we've got
Speaker 14: ourselves in, and it's now openly displaying itself on the
Speaker 14: streets of Sydney over the weekend with people mourning a
Speaker 14: terrorist leader.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's shocking, horrifying.
Speaker 3: Very quickly, before you go, Cameron, what do you think
Speaker 3: of Penniwong's snub?
Speaker 13: Well, it was a snub, let's call it for that.
Speaker 13: And she hasn't wanted to hear the truth ever since
Speaker 13: October seven. She hasn't want to hear the truth. But
Speaker 13: Pen's beat to Israel and went and caught a Palestine
Speaker 13: in France. She proselytized on Palestine two days before and
Speaker 13: the UN so she should have stayed and listened. She
Speaker 13: should have actually learned why Israel needs self defense, why
Speaker 13: Israel is actually fighting terrorism, while back in Australia, we're
Speaker 13: giving souccer succer to terrorists in Australia with a you
Speaker 13: quite rightly say, absolutely disgusting displays of support for Hesbla
Speaker 13: and hamas previously in Australia. And that's happening on Penny
Speaker 13: One's watch. So what an awful snub and what a disgrace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, and that the only member of the Australian
Speaker 3: delegation according to her the statement from her office was
Speaker 3: a liberal backbencher, a chust appauling. All right, Cameron Milner,
Speaker 3: David Gazard, love having you on the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Now, after the break, it's the battle over the border
Speaker 3: as Donald Trump and Kamala Harris both try to prove
Speaker 3: they'd manage the crisis better. Koshagada will join me next.
Speaker 3: Let's turn to news out of the United States now,
Speaker 3: and let's bring in Sky News contributor Kosher Gada. Kosher
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris visited the southern border for the first time
Speaker 3: in three years. Look, this has been called a photo up,
Speaker 3: and of course it is one because Kamala is being
Speaker 3: accused of not caring about the border until she actually
Speaker 3: needed to. For her campaign. She tweeted that as president,
Speaker 3: I will secure our border and will work to fix
Speaker 3: our broken system of immigration. But Kosha data, she's been
Speaker 3: in office, this has been in her remit, So surely
Speaker 3: voters aren't buying this.
Speaker 15: It wouldn't appear to when we look at the pools
Speaker 15: and the movements and everything that's happening, and the tightening
Speaker 15: that's happening there. You know, this is part of her strategy.
Speaker 15: We've seen it where it's generally light on policy. There's
Speaker 15: a couple of things that she points to, and on
Speaker 15: the border, she points to this bill that was supposedly
Speaker 15: somewhat bipartisan that was trying to be passed recently and
Speaker 15: got scuttled, and she blames Trump for that. You know,
Speaker 15: the Trump isn't anywhere in the government. So that's kind
Speaker 15: of what she's trying to say, like, hey, we had
Speaker 15: this great thing, it failed. When I come in, I'm
Speaker 15: going to change it. But to your point, people aren't blind.
Speaker 15: It's very well understood what the illegal immigration problem is
Speaker 15: in the US right now. There was a damning report
Speaker 15: that came out from ICE the other day of criminal criminal,
Speaker 15: criminally charge and convicted people that have been let into
Speaker 15: the country. There are anecdotal situations that we see in Springfield, Ohio,
Speaker 15: and Nantuckett and elsewhere. So I don't quite think it's
Speaker 15: going to work. But it sounds like that's the tune
Speaker 15: and she's going to continue to sing in the thirty
Speaker 15: two days we have left.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, those figures that you've mentioned, I mean, they're just extraordinary.
Speaker 3: Thirteen thousand convicted murderers. In total, four hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand convicted criminals have crossed the board. I mean,
Speaker 3: thirteen thousand convicted murderers. It's kind of unthinkable. It's no
Speaker 3: wonder that Donald Trump is trying to resenter his campaign
Speaker 3: on immigration because he knows that's the one thing that'll
Speaker 3: work for him.
Speaker 15: Yes, you know, that is by and large an issue
Speaker 15: that really catapulted him into office in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 15: people used to laugh at him and still laugh at
Speaker 15: him when he says things like, you know, they're emptying
Speaker 15: the mental asylums and the prisons from countries like Venezuela
Speaker 15: and elsewhere into the US. He is prone to hyperbole,
Speaker 15: but he's always right. There's always the crux of what
Speaker 15: he says is directionally correct. And then these reports come
Speaker 15: out and sort of validate that. Where in general there's
Speaker 15: economic issues with the quantum of immigration, illegal and legal. Frankly,
Speaker 15: that's coming in into many countries. It's the issue of
Speaker 15: our time. And then when you layer onto that within
Speaker 15: the illegals, people with criminal convictions, and then you see
Speaker 15: anecdotes and some horrible assaults and murders and rapes that
Speaker 15: are taking place committed by illegals, it really sends, I think,
Speaker 15: a very scary picture to people. And just with thirty
Speaker 15: two days left to go, these types of reports are
Speaker 15: fresh in people's minds, and that's why Trump is indeed
Speaker 15: refocusing the campaigns and.
Speaker 3: Amazing, it's only thirty two days left to go. It's
Speaker 3: going to be an exciting time. Now we're going to
Speaker 3: see on Wednesday morning, our time, the vice presidential debate,
Speaker 3: So Senator jd Vance up against Tim Walls. What do
Speaker 3: you expect will be the main issues that will be
Speaker 3: discussed here?
Speaker 15: I think immigration, like we just discussed, is front and center,
Speaker 15: and JD Vunce was a little bit in the firestorm
Speaker 15: around that with the Haiti Haitian immigrants at Springfield, So
Speaker 15: I think that will be something both candidates will try
Speaker 15: to frame the other side on and j Devounce is
Speaker 15: very strong on that. I think the other you know,
Speaker 15: the childless cat lady thing that the media tried to
Speaker 15: drum up and make into a bit of a story.
Speaker 15: I'm sure Waltz is going to try and hit JD
Speaker 15: Vunce on that, and surely he'll have a defense for
Speaker 15: you know what he meant in the context of that.
Speaker 15: And then I also think the stolen valor issue that
Speaker 15: has died down recently, but it was a big story
Speaker 15: when Waltz was appointed as the vice presidential candidate, where
Speaker 15: he inflated his rank and his position and his experience
Speaker 15: in the military. I'm sure Jadvance is going to try
Speaker 15: and remind the voters of that one, especially since he
Speaker 15: actually did serve in a combat zone. I would expect
Speaker 15: to see that front center as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's.
Speaker 3: Going to be interesting too much, not quite as exciting
Speaker 3: as the main presidential debate. And at this point it
Speaker 3: doesn't look like there will be another presidential debate, but
Speaker 3: you never know. All right, Koshagada, thank you very much
Speaker 3: for your time tonight, and that's it for me. I'll
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. We're going to have
Speaker 3: another big show, so don't miss it. And right now,
Speaker 3: poor Murray is back in town, and here he is