WEBVTT - Backup is three hours away. Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>I look up.

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<v Speaker 2>Two guys are walking towards us from the direction of

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<v Speaker 2>the van. Both of them look mean and they're carrying

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<v Speaker 2>baseball bats. Oh no, Leon, the kid on talking to

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<v Speaker 2>turns around, sees them, turns to me and says, who

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<v Speaker 2>are those two guys?

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<v Speaker 1>You're kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I turned to him and go, They're not with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I've never seen him before.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Life and Crimes. We are here again

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<v Speaker 1>with Mark Tregellis, who is a former remote area policeman

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<v Speaker 1>who's written a crackerjack little book called back Up He

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<v Speaker 1>three Hours Away, and today is going to tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more stories from the sixty odd stories that

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<v Speaker 1>are in that book. Welcome Mark, Thanks Andrew. Great to

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<v Speaker 1>be back now. I think you mentioned earlier something we

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<v Speaker 1>prepared earlier, that you have a story to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty yellow van. So this was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>well pretty much yes, because they drive around the dust

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<v Speaker 1>just gathers on them.

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<v Speaker 2>On the night this story achieved in East s Gippsland,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to admit legend status. By the end of

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<v Speaker 2>this job, I had virtually every policeman in skips Land

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<v Speaker 2>glued to the radio as to what would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So where does it start?

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<v Speaker 2>So it starts in Malacuta, working by myself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get a phone call from the board, and the board

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<v Speaker 2>back then was regional communications at Marbile Mar.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a fair just for anybody who's not sure

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<v Speaker 1>about victorious geography. Maul to Malakuto they do start with

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<v Speaker 1>them is about like Gladsgow to London. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a long, long, one long way. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>they came up and said, Tree, can you start heading

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<v Speaker 2>out the highway? We got a job for you. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm heading out from a Polla Bay towards Genoa and

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<v Speaker 2>I said what you got and they said, We've got

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<v Speaker 2>a dirty yellow van with five offenders on board. They're

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<v Speaker 2>doing multiple thefts and petrol drive offs from lakes New

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<v Speaker 2>Marella or bost They've stolen a stuffed kangaroo from a pub.

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<v Speaker 2>They're headed towards you and you're the only cop between

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<v Speaker 2>them and the border. And I said, right, give the

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<v Speaker 2>pub a canner call, see if they can spot them

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<v Speaker 2>going past. If they go up the Monaro Highway, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>miss them. If they go through on the Princess Highway

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<v Speaker 2>to Genoa, I'll get them.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to explain to our listeners that a road

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<v Speaker 1>does fork off northwoods up over the border country to

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<v Speaker 1>it heads up to camera from that area.

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<v Speaker 2>So I arrived at the intersection at Genoa and the

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<v Speaker 2>board came back to me and said, we've just had

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call from the pub. They're headed your way

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<v Speaker 2>and I've gone fabulous back up. And that's when the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the times when I had the quote he

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<v Speaker 2>goes back up three hours away and I've gone where

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<v Speaker 2>is everyone? And apparently the forest protesters were going off

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<v Speaker 2>up at Goodnook and everyone else was and that was

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<v Speaker 2>three hours. So I picked up the New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>radio and got on to the New South Wales Board

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<v Speaker 2>and said, I'm here. I've got five offenders coming at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Back up, and Eden came up and they said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>eating here, we'll back you up. And I've gone, oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, but we're not at Eden, still an hour away.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they weren't out of Eden, where were they?

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<v Speaker 2>And they said, oh, we're it bigger, which is another hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, and what are you doing up there? They

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<v Speaker 2>were on a dispatch. So I said, well, can you

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<v Speaker 2>start in my way? I've got five offenders coming at me.

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<v Speaker 2>So my plan was I was going to just stay

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<v Speaker 2>in gene with the lights off because there's absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 2>between can River and Genoa except forest. And the longer

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<v Speaker 2>the van takes to get to me, the better it is,

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<v Speaker 2>because that means I'll have less time for Eden to

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<v Speaker 2>get to me. Exactly forty minutes later, dirty yellow vandrives pass.

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<v Speaker 2>So I turn on the engine, keep my headlights off,

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<v Speaker 2>pull up behind them, and as I come up turn

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<v Speaker 2>my headlights on. I'm checking the registration number, the registration

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<v Speaker 2>plate on the back of the car. I've only got

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<v Speaker 2>a partial but if there have been swapping number plates

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<v Speaker 2>true along the way, they could have any number on board.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was told actually that they had swapped number

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<v Speaker 2>plates when they did the Kangaroo the Kangaroo heist. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I look up and on the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>van is spray painted the words police, do not follow me.

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<v Speaker 2>You make me nervous. Oh, And I just remember thinking that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Unusual, and what does it really mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, surely, if you're committing crimes, you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be have that written on the back. But I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm going to make them nervous, so I

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<v Speaker 2>put the lights on and hit the sigron a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times, and the car pulls over, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sort of behind it, and I'm giving there my location,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm letting them know exactly where I am and

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened. But then I look up and two girls

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the van and walk past and walk

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<v Speaker 2>back towards me. So I get out of the van

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<v Speaker 2>and these two girls walk up to me, and one

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<v Speaker 2>in front comes up and goes, hello, I'm Yvonne, I'm Suzanne.

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<v Speaker 2>They're from Germany and German backpacker.

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<v Speaker 1>Chicks, and no one else in the van.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tipping. This isn't my van. I said, hi, girls,

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<v Speaker 2>how's your night going? And they said, yeaht is good,

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<v Speaker 2>but for what there is? And did you pull us over?

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<v Speaker 2>And I've gone you wouldn't believe it, but your van

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<v Speaker 2>matches the description of one full of offenders that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for crimes in this area. And the girls go, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is criminals? Is how violent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I go yeah, and they look at me and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Australia, and what pops into my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>But that the movie with the two Elma and Louise.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, not that Austin Powers where I beat the

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<v Speaker 2>two Japanese twins where you pull out your notebook, go

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<v Speaker 2>to the back page and say things to do before

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<v Speaker 2>I die. Number four have sex with van full of backpacker.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a tick, so I go, so, girls, you're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>And just as I say that, what drives past another

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<v Speaker 2>dirty ever So I go, sorry, girl's got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Jump in the van. Tear off after this one, come

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<v Speaker 2>up behind it. Check the regio. It matches the partial

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<v Speaker 2>that I've got, so I know I've got my crew.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm nearing the border, so I have to be

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<v Speaker 2>quick because, like I said before, if you get them

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<v Speaker 2>over the border, can't bring them back. And I've got

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<v Speaker 2>to get permission to continue the pursuit over the boarder anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So I turn the headlights on. The car pulls over,

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<v Speaker 2>the driver gets out. He's about twenty five, covered in

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo's acting very squarely, and there's heads bobbing around in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the van. One of them is not

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<v Speaker 2>a kangaroo. And I'm sitting there thinking, how am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to do this? So I picked up the loudspeaker

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<v Speaker 2>from the front of the van turned it up full

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<v Speaker 2>and said, occupants of the van, listen carefully. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the police, just in case they didn't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>red and blue lights were for. Your van has been

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<v Speaker 2>identified as being wanted for a number of crimes in

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<v Speaker 2>the Skippsland region. You're all considered dangerous. Don't do anything stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy standing out the front just goes and

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<v Speaker 2>sticks straight up in the air, and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all right, and so lift up your shirt please, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 2>He pulls up your shirt and I said, turn around,

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<v Speaker 2>and he turns around. It's halfway around. Who drives past.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the German backpacker chicks. Evon is hanging out the

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<v Speaker 2>window with a video camera strapped to her eye and

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<v Speaker 2>a right fist raised into the air, screaming into the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gets them, gets them. This poor kid who's got

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<v Speaker 1>his got his shirt pulled up. There's just his jaws

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor as he watches. And I start laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got under the tannoy and said, have a good trip, Yvon.

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<v Speaker 2>I go mate, drop your shirt, grab your license, come

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<v Speaker 2>back and see me. Everyone else stay in the van.

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<v Speaker 2>He walks back. What was with the other van And

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<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, mate, German backpacka chicks, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>they like?

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<v Speaker 1>What was with all the crime? What crime?

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<v Speaker 2>The petrol thefts, the drive off Barnsdow Lakes, New Morella.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, we haven't stopped in any of those places.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, yeah, if I search a van and find

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<v Speaker 2>a hoop of number plates, your stuffed.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Kangaroo, Oh from the pub? Yes, that's right, the pub?

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Oh yeah, the guy was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a nube and we grabbed it and threw it

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<v Speaker 2>out fifty meters up. We just wanted to piss him off,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all. And I went, okay, I think there's an

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<v Speaker 2>offense in there somewhere. Do you have a license? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got it on your No, okay, give me your details.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got my head down and I'm writing his

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<v Speaker 2>name and an address that I'm going to check on

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<v Speaker 2>the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>I look up.

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<v Speaker 2>Two guys are walking towards us from the direction of

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<v Speaker 2>the van. Both of them look mean, and they're carrying

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<v Speaker 2>baseball bats. Oh no, Leon, the kid on talking to

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<v Speaker 2>turns around, sees them, turns to me and says, who

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<v Speaker 2>are those two guys, you're kidding. I turned to him

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<v Speaker 2>and go, they're not with you, and he goes I've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen him before, and I'm thinking, either bullshit, but

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't look like it's bullshit, and like, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what's going on. So it's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>few times in my life I've actually had my pistol

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<v Speaker 2>out of its revolve in my hand and my caps

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<v Speaker 2>can spray out in the other hand. The two guys

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<v Speaker 2>walking towards us. When they get about ten meters away,

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<v Speaker 2>the older guy in front stops, turns around, hands his

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<v Speaker 2>baseball bat to the guy behind, walks up to me,

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<v Speaker 2>walks past me, up to Leon, grabs him shirt fronts

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<v Speaker 2>him and growls, whars meth and kangaroo.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kidding. It's the publican from the from where which.

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<v Speaker 2>Pace I won't say precisely, but it was in the region,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd thrown the baseball bats in the car and

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone in hot pursuit and they've my head was

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<v Speaker 2>driven past and they've pulled in in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>van in front, but the van was wider than their car,

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<v Speaker 2>so I couldn't see it until I stuck my head

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<v Speaker 2>out the side and I'm just sitting there thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be joking. But then what happens is

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<v Speaker 2>the four other guys in the back of the van

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<v Speaker 2>see Leon getting shirt fronted, and everyone piles out and

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<v Speaker 2>it's on for young enough. So the only good thing

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<v Speaker 2>about any of this is nobody wants to fight me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm giving little epsots on the radio to D

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, saying everything under control, one person out of

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<v Speaker 2>the van at a time. Two guys have just rolled

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<v Speaker 2>up with baseball bats to seven guys having an argie barge.

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<v Speaker 2>This is turning pears shapes, and I'm looking down at

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<v Speaker 2>my little can of spray and I go this is

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to cut it. So in the back

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<v Speaker 2>we have the party packs, the big cans of spray.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a couple, so I grab one in each hand,

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<v Speaker 2>walk up to everyone and say, okay, everyone calm down

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<v Speaker 2>and shut up, or I'm spraying everyone. And Leon turns

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<v Speaker 2>to me and goes, don't do that, man, I've had

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<v Speaker 2>it before. That reallys But everyone calms down and the

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<v Speaker 2>publican are talking, and Leon goes, look, if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that bad about your kangaroo will pay for it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I then go, hang on a minute, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for it? Yeah, So I go to the publican,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to press charges? And the republican goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>not if he's going to pay for it. There's my

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<v Speaker 2>theft out the window. So I said, right, you two guys,

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<v Speaker 2>being the publican and he's son in law, you go

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<v Speaker 2>back and wait in the car because they are drunk

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<v Speaker 2>as and I'm going to have a chat to them

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<v Speaker 2>about driving. You four guys go back and sit in

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<v Speaker 2>the van. Leon I still need to see some idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Leon turns to me and goes, this has been the

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<v Speaker 2>weirdest night of my life. I'm going it's coming close

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<v Speaker 2>to mine, to Leon. So so we come back. The

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<v Speaker 2>two guys go back, get in the car, turn around.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive off.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all over the road, Me and Leon watching, and

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<v Speaker 2>Leon turns to me goes, they're drunk, and I go, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. They're absolutely plastered. And he goes, aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>going to stop them? And I went no, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still tipping I've got mcrooks. Fifteen minutes later, Eden rolls up,

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<v Speaker 2>we strip the van. I found a girl in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how she quite got there, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was it. But guess what, it's not them. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a third yellow van driving round e Skipsland at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time on the stewing Knight stuff, also with five

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<v Speaker 2>guys on board.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones doing.

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<v Speaker 2>The petrol drive offs and the thefts. They haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>swapping number plates. It's two separate cars. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of bad luck with We didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>until the next day when we found out. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a slightly different make, model and color. And the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing these guys have done is the kangaroo and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy doesn't want to press charges. I've got nothing. So

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<v Speaker 2>by this stage everyone in his Skipsland is listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the radio what's happening, and they're expect me to come

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<v Speaker 2>up and saying five persons under arrest are straight to

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<v Speaker 2>the front bullbar and I'm driving back and charging every

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<v Speaker 2>one with everything, And instead I came up with mark

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<v Speaker 2>my last inquiries pending for a penalty notice, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a ticket. And there's this pause and the operator comes

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<v Speaker 2>back and says, Trig, how did you turn a crime

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<v Speaker 2>spree into a penalty notice? And I've gone, well, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't easy, but I did it. Now, in hindsight, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>have been better staying with the German backpack of chicks.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have got a whole better result out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. I don't think we want

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<v Speaker 1>to propagate. I don't think we want to propagate those

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<v Speaker 1>sort of in my dreams. Possibly this is a funny story,

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<v Speaker 1>and it ends up a funny story and it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>But if this were to do with young murders and things, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of stuff that can get people charged

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<v Speaker 1>with things they didn't do because of a natural inclination

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<v Speaker 1>to think it's the same band exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were three bands, yes, three vans are the

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<v Speaker 2>same on the same time. And I've never in my

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one years, I've never had another job that could

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<v Speaker 2>either come close to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a wonderful story.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the other stories I had was I'm

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<v Speaker 2>learning about country policing, and one day we caught a

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<v Speaker 2>young kid, eight years old, Billy, stealing lollies on the

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<v Speaker 2>way home from school. Now, there's nothing you can do

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<v Speaker 2>with an eight year old that's stealing lollies except yelling

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<v Speaker 2>him try and get his parents to do something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got him in the back of the van.

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<v Speaker 2>We drive home. It was about twenty kilometers north of Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have capped him and gone over bumps, not

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<v Speaker 1>an eight year old.

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<v Speaker 2>So we we pull up outside and it's a dilapidated farmhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking three foot high grass growing up in the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>rusty car bodies, front door, hanging off the hinges. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got Billy by the ear. I'm dragging him in. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about six thirty at night, bed dinner time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can hear voices coming from the kitchen. So I stick

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<v Speaker 2>my head around the corner and there's we'll call them

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<v Speaker 2>the Smith family sitting at the dinner table, and Mars

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<v Speaker 2>Smith is there. So I look around. I go get

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<v Speaker 2>Ama and she looks up and goes, what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, well, it's Billy. We caught him stealing again.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, I told him. I told him, So you

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<v Speaker 2>go into your spiel and you try and say, now, look, my,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's going to happen if he keeps this up,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you. It's going to wind up in prison like

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<v Speaker 2>his older brother Steven. I'm looking at this dinner table,

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<v Speaker 2>six adults sitting at it. Everyone has food on their plate.

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<v Speaker 2>One old bloke that down the end is eating. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>else is touching their food. There's something I can't put

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<v Speaker 2>my finger on it. Billy sticks, he said. Around the

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<v Speaker 2>quarter mass squeals at him.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the bet. I'll deal with you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor kid scamp is off and we sort of finish

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<v Speaker 2>up and go, okay, well we're going to go. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it happens again, straight to prison. Straight to prison.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not but you're try and get creative. As I

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<v Speaker 2>turned to leave, the lady sitting next to the old

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<v Speaker 2>bloke who's eating, elbows in and says, hurry up, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting hungry. The old blow goes oh for crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>drops his knife and fork no joke, opens his mouth,

0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.280
<v Speaker 2>takes out his teeth, passes them to her. She puts

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<v Speaker 2>them in, she starts eating, and that's when it dawns

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<v Speaker 2>on us. They're waiting for the teeth. True story?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a real story?

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<v Speaker 2>I told that we at an Australian Bravery Association conference

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<v Speaker 2>in Canberra one day, and I admit there were a

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<v Speaker 2>few people like you who were a little bit lary

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<v Speaker 2>of the truth of it. But one of the guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the audience who I did not know, raised his

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<v Speaker 2>hand and said, I know that family. It turns out

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<v Speaker 2>he was a nurse at the Portland Hospital the same

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<v Speaker 2>year as I was there, but I never met him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said they used to come in and eat

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<v Speaker 2>their sandwiches the same way. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>get a confirmation on the truth of the story, phone

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<v Speaker 2>up Portland Police Station. Asked to speak to some of

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<v Speaker 2>the long standing members and inquire as to the validity

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Roughly where's that house.

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<v Speaker 2>Roughly about twenty k north of Inland, But when we

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<v Speaker 2>finished the interview, I'll tell you their actual names.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Wright my old time journo that was born and

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<v Speaker 1>bred there and still lives there works he works at

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<v Speaker 1>the age. But Tony Wright grew up at Portland and

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<v Speaker 1>he will know that family. I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I honestly don't know if everyone was waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the teeth, but certainly the lady next to him had

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<v Speaker 2>put them in and started eating. And we sat in

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<v Speaker 2>the car afterwards just with shocked looks on our faces

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<v Speaker 2>and said, surely that can't be right. You can't have

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<v Speaker 2>a universal fitting on a set of tenches. But then

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<v Speaker 2>we worked out they're all genetically similar. It probably does

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<v Speaker 2>fit good. So yes, I will remember that one un

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<v Speaker 2>till the day I die.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that you might have seen it back of Omeo

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<v Speaker 1>or day Go in the nineteen twenty No really really?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh my goodness, mate, Mark Trigas, what's another story

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<v Speaker 1>from your time as a remote policeman in remote parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>I will set the scene a smaller town than Malakuda,

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<v Speaker 2>heading back towards Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>About an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Two locals sitting in an apartment with the old right,

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<v Speaker 2>having a bit of a choof the front door, gets

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<v Speaker 2>kicked in in walks the assailant, who actually says who

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<v Speaker 2>wants to die first?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, he's watching too much television.

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<v Speaker 2>The young guy smoking the joint takes a drag and

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<v Speaker 2>goes well and points to the other guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right you?

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<v Speaker 2>As I are probably thinking he had something awesome axe machete,

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<v Speaker 2>samurai saw it, But in this small town he had

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<v Speaker 2>half a pair of nails and he's not afraid to

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<v Speaker 2>use them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>So he had his thumb stuck in the nail, says as,

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<v Speaker 2>And they were bent up and he formed a fist,

0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and I swear they were coming about a centimeter out

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 2>between his fingers. So the young guy jumps up, goes

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 2>what the f puts his hands up. The other guy

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<v Speaker 2>steps forward, punches in the arm, and he cops a

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<v Speaker 2>mosquito bite through his arm. He looks down and goes

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<v Speaker 2>Hugh runs out. Another guy tries to get off the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sitting down, so the assailant runs over and

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<v Speaker 2>starts punching him.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other guy starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Kicking him, and the second victim cops a miniuci through

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<v Speaker 2>his thigh, his knee, his ankle, and his ass. Meanwhile,

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the young guy who's gone out has gone next door

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<v Speaker 2>to wear resides the just moved to town, retired prostitute.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this town, she hears what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>A small, small town. Yes, there is not a largish down.

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<v Speaker 2>Small She hears what's going on, says, not on my watch,

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<v Speaker 2>and goes over to sort both the idiots out, picking

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<v Speaker 2>up a lump of four B two on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can tell this is just going to get better,

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<v Speaker 2>can't you. She walks in, sees idiot town. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of four two in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>She walks in, sees idiot one punching idiot two lines

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<v Speaker 2>him up and sconds him with a four bee. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>do a lot of good light pine, so she bashes

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<v Speaker 2>him another couple of times until he turns around, takes

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<v Speaker 2>it offer and says, don't do that. She goes stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you suchine and wades into him with the fists. He

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<v Speaker 2>still got the knife technically, so he grabs her holds

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<v Speaker 2>her down. This gives ample opportunity for the second Stabbee

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<v Speaker 2>to leg it into the kitchen. Now of the myriad

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<v Speaker 2>weapons available in a kitchen, he runs back out with

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<v Speaker 2>a bong a bong a bong yeah right, lines him

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<v Speaker 2>up and smacks him in the head with it. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>break tough bong sample bottle, but it did hurt him,

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<v Speaker 2>so he takes another swing and as he comes down,

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the guy peels out the side. He gets the girl underneath,

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.920
<v Speaker 2>elbow up, hits, shadows, lacerats of skin, stink and bob

0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.640
<v Speaker 2>water everywhere, and then all the locals arrive and sit

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<v Speaker 2>on everyone until I get there. I am trying to

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<v Speaker 2>work out what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It would have taken some reconstruction.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm taking a statement off the second Stabbo and

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<v Speaker 2>he's telling me about the Sam book a bottle and

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<v Speaker 2>I look at him and I go, so you bond

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<v Speaker 2>him and he goes, yeah, yeah, bond him and just

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<v Speaker 2>shake my head. Then I had to go see the prostitute. Hello, former,

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 2>she's retired. She was the retired sex wicker. She was

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<v Speaker 2>she decided the country exactly and had actually retired to

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the country. And I said, hello, I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 2>been introduced. I believe you're new to town. She said, yeah,

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 2>that's right, only been here six weeks. I said, oh,

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>where were you before that? She goes, oh, I did

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>three years inside for the love of my life. So

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I said, so you and the love of your life

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>have moved to the town and she said no, usho,

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't there when I got out. So I left

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<v Speaker 2>him and I said, that's so sad. How did you

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 2>guys meet? And she says, well, I was doing a

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.679
<v Speaker 2>burglary and I'm like, oh, you're kidding me. And she

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>tells the story, which I am avidly listening to, and

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 2>she says, well, I broke a window and I crawled

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<v Speaker 2>in and he was asleep in the bed and he

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 2>woke up and he went hello, and I said, oh, sorry,

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anyone was here, and he said that's okay.

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>So I said, if you've got any money, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said no, but I'll swap you some weed for a job.

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And he said that sounds great and never left. That

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<v Speaker 2>is the most romantic.

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<v Speaker 1>Tale that I have ever heard. Where did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you are? It was a town about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour away from Malacuda Town in Victoria.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, in Victoria, so that has to be. I mean,

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>you're out as a couple, you meet another couple. How

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>do you guys meet? That is a conversation started I

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>ever heard one?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? It had a timber mill in it this town?

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<v Speaker 2>It possibly could have, Yes, would have it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not anymore. Puh.

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<v Speaker 2>You may be right on that one. So all three

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<v Speaker 2>went to hospital. The two guys who were stabbed were

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<v Speaker 2>told not to annoy the other doctor because it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even break the skin. But the poor guy who started

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<v Speaker 2>at all has now been hit in the head so

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<v Speaker 2>many times he wound up with a subduel in atoma

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<v Speaker 2>and they had to operate. And then we figured, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was probably a pretty good result from what happened anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other two guys didn't want to make

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<v Speaker 2>any complaints, so the whole lot just sort of went away.

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<v Speaker 1>And did she ever find her lost love? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had a fair bit of time. I'm for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She obviously had had quite traumatic, tough life, but she

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<v Speaker 2>had guts. Yeah, I mean, just to take on two guys,

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<v Speaker 2>even with a lump of four by two still takes guts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I admire that. So, yes, good, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good story. Now, these stories and many others, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, well there's exty one in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>There's sixty one stories. Backup is three Hours Away by

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<v Speaker 1>former policeman Mark Tregellis, who is north of two meters tall,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're remarkable stories. Mark, They're terrific. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say that the paperbacks out, the ebook

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<v Speaker 2>you can get as well online, and today the audiobook comes.

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<v Speaker 1>Out and you read it or someone else. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Knightley is a professional voice actor and last I

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<v Speaker 2>I looked online, he was living in London. But because

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<v Speaker 2>it's so expensive to create professionally done audio books, they

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<v Speaker 2>prefer to use professional voice actors. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I did say is that I don't think I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>is that the book was one of six which was

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<v Speaker 2>selected by the Melbourne Film Festival for potential adaptation into

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<v Speaker 2>a TV series.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good. So because this is where this is

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of where Heartbeat I remember exactly, or Country Practice.

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>It's got a bit of all of that sort of excitement, pathos,

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<v Speaker 1>humor all mixed in one half hour episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it will come to that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot that needs to do and it'll be two

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<v Speaker 2>or three years if it does, but it would be

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely amazing if that was the case. So if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>would like to pick up a copy of the book,

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<v Speaker 2>it's available in Australia on big W. You can walk

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<v Speaker 2>into a Big W shop and they have it under

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<v Speaker 2>True Crime. You can also order it online at big W,

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<v Speaker 2>at Amazon and at nearly all the other online bookshops.

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<v Speaker 2>The audiobook is available on Audible. So I'm really interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I can't wait to hear what Timothy is

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<v Speaker 2>like when.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw I'd love to hear it. I doubt he's

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<v Speaker 1>much better than you are yourself, to be honest. The

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing about these stories, and we've only heard a

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>sprinkling of them, there are many more in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>The beautiful thing is they have the whi of authenticity,

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and the authentic always appeals to people. And I think

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that out there among our listeners, they will love the

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>sound of something authentic, and I think a lot of

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>people are going to want to read your book.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things that people who've spoken to

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<v Speaker 2>me who've read it were surprised at. They said that

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<v Speaker 2>they had no idea that this is what remote area

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<v Speaker 2>police officers got up to. They only see you giving

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<v Speaker 2>out tickets or doing PBTs or road accidents or something

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 2>like that. But there's this incredible other side of raising

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a family in a community. You can't do things like

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>charge someone for drink driving and then go to the

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>pub the next day that get drunk and everybody sees

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>you jump into your car and drive home drunk, because

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it just takes away your credibility. So you have to

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>try and do that. But twenty six of my thirty

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>one year career was in remote country areas. During that time,

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<v Speaker 2>I broke my back, my knee, my shoulder, my elbow,

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I had two bouts of post trauma, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>shot and all those stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Are in there, and we won't talk about the shot

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<v Speaker 1>one because I happen to know the true story behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it will come as a nice surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>It will, yes or not, I suppose think it's not

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<v Speaker 1>what most people think. No, that's good, Mark. You've told

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>us a heap of good stories and I don't want

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you to tell us all of another one. But someone

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned to me something about taking on neo Nazis, but

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<v Speaker 1>in your pajamas or in your jobs or what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't tell the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't tell the story. But basically, there were three

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<v Speaker 2>Neo Nazis just out of prison that were beating a

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>woman almost to death, and I intervened, dressed in barefoot

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>in a pair of pajamas. But in order to hear

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the rest of that, they'll have to buy the book.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good idea. Mark, thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 1>in once more, and now it's goodbye forever or until

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<v Speaker 1>the next book. Absolute pleasure, Andrew, thanks for listening. Life

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