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<v Speaker 1>Peter Quedlin Live from year twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>tonight on kredline two point five billion. That's how much

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<v Speaker 2>taxpayers you are going to shout out to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>tommygo smelter afloat. And the PMS still under fire for

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<v Speaker 2>crude commentary about the Japanese leader despite a bump in

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<v Speaker 2>the polls. Andrew Bragg risks coalition in fighting with a

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<v Speaker 2>speech yesterday full of politic thought, bubbles across a whole

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<v Speaker 2>host of portfolios, and Goes Taylor forced to shut him down. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>last ad shock departure of White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt.

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<v Speaker 2>What does this mean for the Trump administration just a

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<v Speaker 2>few months out from the midterms, and astounding scenes where

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<v Speaker 2>else but in Melbourne of high school kids protesting against

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<v Speaker 2>Pauline Hansen. A TGV ignorance on display was phenomenal, but

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<v Speaker 2>they went after our own reporter Georgie Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 3>Aimless sentiment to where cazer.

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<v Speaker 4>Is, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, crazy kids protest seem pretty stupid commentary, ignorant commentary.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get to that at the moment, but first, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as he mightn't wish it otherwise. In the Parliament today,

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister was still dogged by his crew commentary

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<v Speaker 2>about his Japanese counterpart. Here's Opposition Leader Angus Taylor kicking off.

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<v Speaker 2>At the top of question time.

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<v Speaker 5>This morning, the Prime Minister was asked yet again about

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<v Speaker 5>his classless comments on the Bush Deep podcast. Yet again

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<v Speaker 5>he refused to give a straight answer. To save him

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<v Speaker 5>from embarrassment, the new South Wales Premier stepped in and

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<v Speaker 5>shut down the question why won't the Prime Minister Manner

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<v Speaker 5>stop hiding behind his colleagues and take responsibility for his

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<v Speaker 5>grubby behavior?

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<v Speaker 6>And I direct into the comments of the Ambassador of Japan,

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<v Speaker 6>who's stated very clearly the dinner hosted by Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 6>Albanezi during the Prime Minister's visit to Australia this May

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<v Speaker 6>was held in a very relaxed atmosphere and we believe

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<v Speaker 6>it helped build a personal trust relationship between the two leaders.

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<v Speaker 6>Indeed it did. We have a very good relationship with

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<v Speaker 6>Japan and I look forward to continuing to work with

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<v Speaker 6>our friends on economic issues as well as interests of

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<v Speaker 6>peace and security and prosperity in our region.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I chose to play the Prime Minister's response in

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<v Speaker 2>full tonight because I wanted you to see that there

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<v Speaker 2>was not even anything remotely resembling an apology to Japan's

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<v Speaker 2>first ever female leader. And then I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>you something that no one should miss after that question

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<v Speaker 2>from the opposition leader, Well, the government then gets to

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<v Speaker 2>ask itself a question. Asking yourself a question in parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>we call that O Dorothy Dixon.

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<v Speaker 7>So with the Prime Minister on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ropes about the melon comments and the disrespect he showed

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<v Speaker 2>Sono Takachi, he showed Japan, even the disrespect shown to

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<v Speaker 2>Carlie Minogue and his own wife over those shagging comments.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a listen to VI from one of the labor

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<v Speaker 2>backbitch was.

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<v Speaker 8>The Albanezy labor government working to prevent family, sexual and

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<v Speaker 8>domestic violence, improve early intervention and make sure women and

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<v Speaker 8>children can access support they need free from violence.

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<v Speaker 7>How more shameless can this bloke get?

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<v Speaker 2>The man who makes smutty, crude jokes about women now

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<v Speaker 2>wants to lecture the nation about treating women and girls

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<v Speaker 2>with respect. Well done on the opposition heading back with

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<v Speaker 2>this follow up question. A month before he made sexist

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<v Speaker 2>remarks about the Prime Minister of Japan on the Bushjeep podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The Prime Minister did post this comment online. No matter

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<v Speaker 2>who's support in politics, it is completely unacceptable to demean, objectify,

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<v Speaker 2>belittle or offend women. So why won't the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>stop hiding behind his female front benches and the new

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales Premier and take responsibility for his disrespectful behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on y Thigh McKenzie for calling it out, and

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<v Speaker 2>shame on every one of those labor women running a

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<v Speaker 2>protection racket for the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 7>The Liberals have absolutely lost the plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to perpetuate this ridiculous, this ridiculous thing.

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<v Speaker 9>The remarks from the Prime Minister have been misinterpreted.

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<v Speaker 7>He has enormous respect for women.

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<v Speaker 10>Those opposite who have engaged, who are so desperate to score,

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<v Speaker 10>so desperate to score political points that they are confecting

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<v Speaker 10>a diplomatic issue.

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<v Speaker 2>All of you women, His sheerler shields you, diminish, all

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<v Speaker 2>of us making excuses for grubby innuendo filmed from the

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<v Speaker 2>couch at the lodge instead of calling it out now,

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<v Speaker 2>not so, Chris Mins. Some journalists today said that Min's

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<v Speaker 2>defended alban Easy at the press conference they held together

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<v Speaker 2>today in the Hunter Valley. Mins did not. Chris Mins

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<v Speaker 2>did not. He spoke up to change the topic. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen carefully, he didn't make excuses, unlike the

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<v Speaker 2>labor women for smart that just can't be defended.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's a clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>Under pressure and frustrated Prime minister today and then that

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<v Speaker 2>intervention from Premier Mins.

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<v Speaker 6>I've answered this question many times. The fact is, well,

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<v Speaker 6>the fact is, the fact is that the Japanese Prime

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<v Speaker 6>Minister and I have a very good relationship the Japanese.

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<v Speaker 6>The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear statements indeed about how

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<v Speaker 6>warm our dinner was, and it was indeed, it was fair.

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<v Speaker 11>Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today.

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<v Speaker 12>Witnestly, this is the.

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<v Speaker 11>Biggest announcement to this region in a generation. Can we

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<v Speaker 11>just talk about it for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll recall last night I said this about Min's when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to integrity the left of frauds. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine Peter Malinowskis or Chris Min's behaving as the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister did in that low rent podcast. I couldn't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Beasley entertaining a question about shagging Kylie.

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<v Speaker 7>Mino, I just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Look if your emails to me today are any indication

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<v Speaker 2>of many of you agree with those comments. Almost all

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<v Speaker 2>of you say just how embarrassed you are that almin

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<v Speaker 2>Easy represents us and our country on the world stage.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you, but questions of character to

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<v Speaker 2>one side. We'll come back to this. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why Min's was there with Alban Easy this

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<v Speaker 2>morning in the Hunter Valley.

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<v Speaker 6>It is in our national interest to have an economy

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<v Speaker 6>that has manufacturing that is not dependent upon something somewhere

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<v Speaker 6>else occurring, because we know that can lead to disruption.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a complicated deal. It was not straightforward. You've got

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<v Speaker 11>the federal government, the state government alongside Tommygo. We wanted

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<v Speaker 11>to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just last past

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<v Speaker 11>a media release or a meeting like this, but decades

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<v Speaker 11>into the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's announcement and risky package for tom Ago are whopping

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<v Speaker 2>two point five billion dollars to bail out a smelter

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<v Speaker 2>and keep heavy industry in this country. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>government money. There's no such thing as government money.

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<v Speaker 7>This is your money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your money bailing out Rio Tinto because without the

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<v Speaker 2>cash that leave Australia and go and set up in

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<v Speaker 2>a country where power prices are cheaper. That's the reality,

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<v Speaker 2>and who can blame them? We have done this to ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia is only in this position because we've all drunk

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<v Speaker 2>the green energy cool aated have gone from being a

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<v Speaker 2>country rich with God given natural resources that we used

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<v Speaker 2>to use like colon gas, to one fast drowning and

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<v Speaker 2>dead and energy insecurity. Because we think Chinese wind turbines

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<v Speaker 2>and pels solar panels make more sense, Well they don't

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<v Speaker 2>and they never will not when the coal and gas

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<v Speaker 2>that we won't use here is shipped off to China

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<v Speaker 2>and India for them to use anyway, how's that saving

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<v Speaker 2>the planet? It's not, you know that it's powering their economy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's making China and India richer, but doing nothing for

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<v Speaker 2>the environment. It takes China just twelve days to produce

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount of carbon emissions that we in Australia

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<v Speaker 2>produce in a whole twelve months. We are one percent

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<v Speaker 2>of global emission. But somehow we think we can change

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<v Speaker 2>the weather here or by ourselves. We just have to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the dark, dark ages, junk jobs and

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<v Speaker 2>make ourselves poorer as a result. Now, years ago, business

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<v Speaker 2>writer Terry mccran warned that net zero policies were an

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<v Speaker 2>economic suicide note and he was right. At today's announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>alongside Albanezy and Chris Mins was Energy Minister Chris Bowen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like the arsonist standing there at the

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<v Speaker 2>fire brigade, isn't it. I mean, who does alban Easy

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<v Speaker 2>and Bowen think they are kidding? We all know that

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<v Speaker 2>the only reason tom Ago needs this bailout is because

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<v Speaker 2>of labour's net zero madness.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a two and a half billion dollar admission

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<v Speaker 5>of failure on energy policy in this country. Why are

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<v Speaker 5>we paying this because we've butchered our energy system.

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<v Speaker 7>That's why.

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<v Speaker 5>Because when we had Caulfi power stations, Tommogo was never

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<v Speaker 5>asking us for money.

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<v Speaker 7>Was it part of today's bailout? I should add?

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<v Speaker 2>It is about labor trying to hold off a push

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<v Speaker 2>by one nation into those Hunter Valley coal mining seats.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's a state election in Victoria, of course, in November,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's also one in New South Wales in March,

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<v Speaker 2>and labor are worried, so they are using the two

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<v Speaker 2>point five billion announced today to shore up workers' jobs

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<v Speaker 2>and votes using your money. If you work it out,

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<v Speaker 2>that bailout equates to about two million dollars per worker's job.

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<v Speaker 2>Two million per job. You are getting your private health

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<v Speaker 2>insurance rebate taken off you. You're being slugged with new

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<v Speaker 2>taxes so that labor can spend two million dollars per

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<v Speaker 2>job two point five billion overall to save this smelter

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<v Speaker 2>and save labor votes in labour seats. Honestly, almost every

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<v Speaker 2>night I say to myself, I don't think he can

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<v Speaker 2>get him bad, and he worse.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think Australia can.

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<v Speaker 2>Slip even further down a slide to where nowhere land.

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<v Speaker 7>And then we do.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets worse, It gets worse every night. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I've ever seen a government this bad on so

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<v Speaker 2>many levels, but here we are. And if I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I suspect you do too. All Right, one

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<v Speaker 2>week of a sitting, We've got another week next week.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, the politicians they.

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<v Speaker 2>All get out of town on your dime on the

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<v Speaker 2>planes for the weekend. We'll get the lattice out of camera, though,

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<v Speaker 2>with the headlines. Political reporter Rubon spargo Good Evening.

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<v Speaker 3>The Opposition leader is warning his shadow Housing minister to

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<v Speaker 3>stick to Coalition policy after he sparked an internal fight

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<v Speaker 3>over migration. Andrew Bragg angered National zmps by suggesting the

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<v Speaker 3>number of backpackers coming to Australia should be cut.

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<v Speaker 5>Andrew expressed some of the his personal views yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 5>made clear to him that his job is to experience them,

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<v Speaker 5>or can I finish that his job is to express

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<v Speaker 5>the views of the coalition.

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<v Speaker 3>Angus Taylor insists net overseas migration will ultimately be determined

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<v Speaker 3>by housing supply. The federal and New South Wales governments

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<v Speaker 3>have struck a deal to save the Tommago aluminium smelter

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<v Speaker 3>from imminent closure. The agreement will secure longer term renewable

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<v Speaker 3>power for the facility at a cost of taxpayers of

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<v Speaker 3>two and a half billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>We wanted to make sure that any agreement wouldn't just

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<v Speaker 11>last past a media release or a meeting like this,

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<v Speaker 11>but decades into the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Workers are welcoming the deal after months of negotiations. The

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<v Speaker 3>New South Wales Premier has stepped in to defend the

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister over his infamous podcast appearance I've talked.

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<v Speaker 6>To you today, just Mahant.

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<v Speaker 11>This is the biggest announcement to this region in a generation.

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<v Speaker 11>Can we just talk about it for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Anthony Abernzi's first press conference since returning from holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make it clear he did not defend the Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 2>He deflected the question a very different thing. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into the headlines now. I've got a panel a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. Joining me now in News twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>host James Morrow and of course another host on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>Night Lover Show, Jamie Rogers.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome to you both.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get in James to the economic detail of this bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Lad in a moment with Ross Greenwood. But politically this

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<v Speaker 2>says to me that labor and New South Wales is

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<v Speaker 2>spooked by one nation.

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<v Speaker 7>This deal is as much about.

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<v Speaker 2>Votes in the Hunter and you know one nation got

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<v Speaker 2>close to taking that seat of Hunter off Joel Fitzgibbon

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<v Speaker 2>when he was an MP, as it is about sovereign manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's more than about the jobs and about

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter than it is about the sovereign manufacturing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a government that talks a big game about manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter was there future Made in Australia, slush funds and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. But you know, we've seen what this government

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<v Speaker 1>is all about. It's all about simply buying votes in

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<v Speaker 1>key constituencies with your money. That's exactly what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>You worked it out in your editorial two two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half million dollars per job. And the language, the

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<v Speaker 1>language that they used in that press conference, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>Premier Mins you know, jumped on the grenade for elbow

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<v Speaker 1>there to help him out and deflect that question, was

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<v Speaker 1>all about you know, this is the biggest announcement for

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter. It wasn't the biggest announcement for Australia's sovereign

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing capability. The tell is in the language. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign.

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<v Speaker 7>Stop, you're not wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course it was also the first time we've

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<v Speaker 2>had the Prime Minister in front of journalists in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 7>He's very good at this.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets the sort of headwind and he hides away.

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<v Speaker 2>He puts his head under the desk, key does staged events,

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<v Speaker 2>but he avoids top questions. He couldn't hide today, are

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<v Speaker 2>you right? That's a good one. On the grenade went

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Min's, as Matt Canavan said, is about the only

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<v Speaker 2>adult in the room but Jamie all week and we

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<v Speaker 2>saw it aget in the chamber today. All week he's

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<v Speaker 2>been dogged by the Japanese comments, sorry, the comments about

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<v Speaker 2>the Japanese Prime Minister. What really gets under my skin

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<v Speaker 2>is all these Labor women deflecting and defending that crude

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<v Speaker 2>and embarrassing podcast. I mean, where is their spine on

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff?

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<v Speaker 7>Jamie? Just what I'm Peter.

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<v Speaker 10>They have all lost their credibility when it comes to

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<v Speaker 10>talking anything about women. And aren't they the party that's

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<v Speaker 10>supposed to be all about women and supporting women or

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<v Speaker 10>where are they? This is the time that they need

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<v Speaker 10>to be standing up and actually showing women that they

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<v Speaker 10>do have their back. What we have seen repeatedly from

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<v Speaker 10>this Labor government is to shear hypocrisy when it comes

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<v Speaker 10>to women that aren't on the left. If you don't

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<v Speaker 10>believe in their side of politics, well you're not worth defending.

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<v Speaker 10>We saw it happen with Gina rein Hart and the

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<v Speaker 10>ABC issue. But let's not forget how quick all of

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<v Speaker 10>the Labor politicians, including the Prime Minister, were to come

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<v Speaker 10>out and condemn that ditch the witch campaign around Jacinterer Allen.

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<v Speaker 10>But then when it comes to the Japanese Prime minister,

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<v Speaker 10>who is a conservative, Oh, nothing to see here. When

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<v Speaker 10>it comes to Gena rein Hart, there's silence and all

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<v Speaker 10>of them saying that they didn't watch that footage on

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<v Speaker 10>the ABC. It's just sheer hypocrisy on display. I think

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<v Speaker 10>it's incredibly disappointing and they've now lost all their credibility

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<v Speaker 10>and we should be reminding voters this going into the

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<v Speaker 10>next election.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I won't let it rest on make sure right, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you are, they have no leg just down on when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to commentary about women in particularly the Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Party and women, let's.

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<v Speaker 7>Go to migration. Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we touched on this last night with the

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<v Speaker 2>Angus Taylor. A speech by Andrew Bragg at the Press Club.

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<v Speaker 2>He went way beyond his policy rebuilt. He made announcements

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<v Speaker 2>in relation or I guess prognostications, if I can call

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<v Speaker 2>them that, because they're not official announcements. He's not the

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<v Speaker 2>official minister and is certainly not the leader of the opposition,

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<v Speaker 2>but he made a statement that about one eighty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>should be where the coalition lands in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>net overseas migration number. But James, this really rankled with

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<v Speaker 2>the Nationals have a listen.

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<v Speaker 13>As leader of the Nationals Party, we will not be changing,

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<v Speaker 13>will not be seeking chasseeing changes to working holiday visa makers,

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<v Speaker 13>because that's not the reason why we've had the surgeon. Migration,

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<v Speaker 13>often colloquially referred to backpackers, are not taking a house

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<v Speaker 13>in a major city away from others that could be

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<v Speaker 13>using it.

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<v Speaker 5>I look, Andrew expressed some of his personal views yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>I made clear to him that his job is to

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<v Speaker 5>experience them, or can I finish that his job is

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<v Speaker 5>to express the views of the coalition and the senior

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<v Speaker 5>team of which he is a member.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, ticked off publicly there, of course by leader.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's been shadow ministers who have spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to him personally.

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<v Speaker 7>And I say Bragg by name, Bragg.

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<v Speaker 2>By nature, James, but there's a not a lot he's got.

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<v Speaker 7>To brag about.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Bragg's behind the disastrous era of Susan Lee's liberal leader.

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<v Speaker 7>We all know how that ended.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he should just sit down, stick to his

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<v Speaker 2>knitting and perhaps not get into everybody else's policy turf.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was such a piece of freelancing, Peter. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so much unpack with this here. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know, did Angus Taylor's office see the speech

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<v Speaker 1>before he went to deliver it. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 1>seems remarkable to me that he would go and freelance

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<v Speaker 1>like this, come up with a number one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand that's only twenty percent lower than where Labor's targets,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know they're going to overshoot him by a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of two hundred and twenty five by twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. Is this whole idea? It was so politically

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<v Speaker 1>cynical there to remind everybody that there's divisions in the

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<v Speaker 1>coalition about migration by you know, talking about the backpackers

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<v Speaker 1>and the working holidaymakers and all of that who the

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural sector relies on. Everybody knows those aren't the people

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<v Speaker 1>we are concerned about. I mean, maybe if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to clean up the mess on New Year's Day at

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<v Speaker 1>Cougie or Branti, that's about it. The trouble the backpackers cause,

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<v Speaker 1>not the trouble in the housing market, not all the

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<v Speaker 1>tertiary education mills that we have. Everybody knows where the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is that, ain't it. This was a really really

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<v Speaker 1>underhanded and disgraceful performance, I thought, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know that Angus Taylor has done enough to

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<v Speaker 1>pull him into line.

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<v Speaker 7>I agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this has got a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 2>faction of politics, sinewsath Wales, and I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>will be the end of it. I think brags absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>on notice and Angus is due to have a race

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<v Speaker 2>shuffle he hasn't had. And yet I know exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>I reshuffle Andrew Bragg to. Let's go to the rallies

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<v Speaker 2>across the nation, kids who should be in school. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not as though Australia's leading the international league tables at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's anything but. But they're out protesting against one nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a look at what happened to our own reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgie Dickerson in Melbourne in les.

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<v Speaker 14>Sentiments to where Cazer is and dot.

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<v Speaker 9>Give it back, give it back, give it back, give.

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<v Speaker 7>It back, give.

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<v Speaker 14>It She saw the microphone.

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<v Speaker 10>We had to actually just chase that protester through the

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<v Speaker 10>packed crowd.

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<v Speaker 11>They actually put it inside a cools bag and sprints

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<v Speaker 11>it off with our microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at a lot of the Rushes coming in

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<v Speaker 2>today on this Jamie, and you know kids screaming fascism.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them could spell fascism talking about President Pauline Hansen. Well, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how democracy works. We don't have a president

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<v Speaker 2>as our head of state. I would love to see

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<v Speaker 2>them sit in class. I'd love to see them learn

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<v Speaker 2>to debate ideas, disagree with civility.

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<v Speaker 7>You're a mum, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 2>You must look at that and think what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>is happening with kids in Australia. Parents too, they bear

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility here, but also our education system.

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<v Speaker 10>Your spot on Peter. All week when we've been talking

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<v Speaker 10>about the lead up to these protests, I really wanted

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<v Speaker 10>the schools to step in and also the government, I

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<v Speaker 10>mean Marine Feruki was signing a pass to give students

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<v Speaker 10>the day off school. I think what we should have

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<v Speaker 10>been encouraging is for the students to sit in the

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<v Speaker 10>classroom and actually analyze one nation's policies and actually talk

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<v Speaker 10>to each other about what is it that I do

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<v Speaker 10>like or I don't like and actually start to learn

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<v Speaker 10>how to think for yourself, not be told what to think.

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<v Speaker 10>And this is what's getting really concerning about the education

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<v Speaker 10>system is that children are being forced and told about

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<v Speaker 10>a certain ideology and then they are absolutely just running

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<v Speaker 10>with it. And we saw that on display today. A

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<v Speaker 10>lot of them couldn't explain exactly what it is about

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<v Speaker 10>Pauline Hanson that they didn't like. I find it really, really,

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<v Speaker 10>really distressing, and I often refer back to a quote

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<v Speaker 10>of Abraham Lincoln that said, what is taught and learned

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<v Speaker 10>in the classrooms today is what will be policy in

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<v Speaker 10>the future. So it makes me worried about where our

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<v Speaker 10>country is going when we look at these young kids

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<v Speaker 10>who are going so far to the left, which of

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<v Speaker 10>course is fine, but they're still so young. And also,

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<v Speaker 10>why wouldn't you do a protest on a Sunday? I

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<v Speaker 10>reckon a lot of those kids there were just trying

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<v Speaker 10>to get the day off. But it is also a

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<v Speaker 10>breeding ground for being able to get the left radicalization

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<v Speaker 10>in youngsters.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, James, When I was at school in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, I did a subject called civil politics and

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<v Speaker 2>you sat there in year ten I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a year eleven equivalent in Australia at least, and you

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<v Speaker 2>learn about your system of government. In that case, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the American system of government. You learned about your democracy

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<v Speaker 2>warts and all, and you had these sorts of debates

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone had to do it to finish and get

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<v Speaker 2>your high school diploma. I think this is missing in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely missing. We've had lots of reports to the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Civics education in this country is absolutely dire.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I'm harmed by is that the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>were very small compared to previous school strakes. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think maybe this is a bit of a fail

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<v Speaker 1>for the organizers.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, maybe it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's put it back in the curriculum and get

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other jug out. I'll leave it there,

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to both your programs you tomorrow night, James,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you on Sunday, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 7>Right before the break.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a bit of a sign, a straw in

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<v Speaker 2>the wind. Let's not get too head of ourselves here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a sign to me that the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>might be getting serious at fighting back on labor and

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more agile.

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<v Speaker 7>To have a look.

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<v Speaker 2>At this ad that's just been released taking the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister to task for his mounting lies.

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<v Speaker 3>You can only lie to people once.

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<v Speaker 7>You can only do it once.

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<v Speaker 6>Only once?

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<v Speaker 11>Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and

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<v Speaker 11>capital gains?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>How hard is it for the fiftieth time?

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<v Speaker 9>Were those statements promises?

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<v Speaker 13>What they were?

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<v Speaker 3>Statements?

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<v Speaker 6>And we have changed our position?

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<v Speaker 3>But bullshit?

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<v Speaker 6>People got a couple of melons she brought to she

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<v Speaker 6>brought too as you do?

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<v Speaker 15>You know I stepped off the stage.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't fall over on my backside.

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<v Speaker 7>I stumbled, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>How sure are you that that two hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 5>five is robust?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know because we have done the modeling.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you stand by that modeling?

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<v Speaker 1>It's reputexas modeling.

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<v Speaker 6>I've always been a man of my word.

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<v Speaker 7>Authorized by l follow Liberal Canberra. There you go. Pretty powerful,

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<v Speaker 7>isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's gone far and wide on social media this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>right after the bragg Ross Greenwood, we'll look into that

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<v Speaker 2>announcements day in relation to tome Ago. But it's the

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<v Speaker 2>tip of the iceberg. We'll get into the other bailouts

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and the arsonist Chris Bowen at the fire

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, welcome back. We're going to check

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<v Speaker 2>in with our News twenty four White House correspondent for

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<v Speaker 2>his assessment of the shock news today that Caroline Leavitt

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a huge fan of stepping down as official

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>White House Press secretary. But also in some breaking news,

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>we now know how Nikki Osborne, the podcaster, a deep

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Bush podcaster who did that interview with the Prime Minister

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 2>got hold of him and got in his diary and

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 2>into the front room there at the lodge.

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 7>I'll have that for you in the moment. It shocks me,

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you what.

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.479
<v Speaker 2>But let's go now to the bailout announced today by

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the federal New South Wales governments and it's it's yet

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>another bailout in a long line of bailouts for large

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>scale manufacturing in Australia.

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 7>Have a look at the screen.

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 2>The bailouts total now seven point seven billion dollars. That's

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>your money that we're wasting because labor is persisting with

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of green policies designed to drive these

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 2>manufacturers broke and send them off shore. Joining us now

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 2>on New twenty fourths, Business editor Ross G. Greenwood, who

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I suspect is as cranky as I am about this

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>colossal waste of money. It's all borrowed money too, I

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>might add, we're borrowing money left, right and center in

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.959
<v Speaker 2>this country. But that's two million per job ross.

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 15>It's a lot of money per job, there's no doubt.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 15>But he's the second and important part about this. Rio

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 15>Tinto is a company that is worth on our stock

0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 15>market two hundred and thirty seven billion dollar and yet

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 15>it's gone to the government not once but twice to

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 15>get bailed out from these aluminum smelters.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>One you saw there is.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 15>Quite clearly Tomigo, which is the biggest electricity user in

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 15>New South Wales that uses up to twelve percent of

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 15>the total electricity that's generated in New South Wales. The

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 15>other one is the Boin smelter and Rio Tido owns

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 15>seventy three percent of that. So you might ask why

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 15>is it that the government would bail out one of

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 15>the wealthiest mining companies in the world. Well, the reason

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 15>is because these companies have threatened to close down these

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 15>smelters and move elsewhere. Now, aluminium, I've got to tell

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 15>you is what people sometimes call solid electricity, and so

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 15>the reason why these smelters are run economic. Every one

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 15>of those on the screen there near star which is

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 15>Port Pirie and Tasmania mount Either. Of course, copper whale

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 15>of steel works is a basket case and arguably could

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 15>and should have been closed. But the reality is in

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 15>the aluminium smelters in particular, they need their core ingredient,

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 15>which makes up about thirty to forty percent of their cost,

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 15>is electricity. And the reason why they were started here

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 15>in Australia in the first place is because we had

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.479
<v Speaker 15>plentiful and cheap electricity, and so as a result of this,

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 15>as soon as electricity prices have started the rise, as

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 15>we've had the rollout of renewables, every one of these

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.479
<v Speaker 15>managers of these aluminium smelters has screamed a government for

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 15>a decade and basically said, hey, listen, you've got to

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 15>find a way to give us cheap, reliable base load

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 15>power because this intermittent power which is coming from the

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 15>renewables is not good enough to be able to run

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 15>these smelters. And so their cost of electricity have risen

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 15>on average by around fifty percent in the past ten years,

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 15>which makes these smelters uneconomic except for the case when government,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 15>state and federal have to effectively bail them out. It's

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 15>not about the thousand jobs. It's just about the fact

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 15>that these smelters and the money from Riotinto and other

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 15>giant miners will pick it self up and go somewhere

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 15>else in the world. And that is not good for

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 15>Australia at all.

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>And one I want Painple to understand too, with these

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>heavy industries in Australia, the risk they leave is the

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>national security risk should they go.

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 7>Right.

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of these processes, as it was explained

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to me in government, in policy sense, a military grade

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>steel is different than a lot of the still that

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>we might import from places like Indonesia and in part

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>in China. So we want that sovereign manufacturing capability of

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>military grade steel on shore. We need to keep these

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>products here like smelters as well all the mining that

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>we possibly can. The world is an uncertain place. So yes,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a balance sheet risk, absolutely ross, but there's a

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>national security risk if they leave. Hence there is a

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>national security argument and this would have been discussed around

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the cabinet table believe me, as to why the two

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and a half billion dollars today should be paid. But

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>what angers me and I think angers every Australian watching

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>this tonight is that the arsonist is there for the announcement.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the reason we're in this mess is Chris Bowen,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>the arsonist is there as the five brigades trying to

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>put out the fire.

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh well, that's that staggered me.

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 15>I've got to say so to. I've seen the Industry

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 15>Minister Tim Ayirs there today absolutely one hundred percent. So

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 15>I've seen Chris Min's, the new South Wales Premier, who

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 15>was a reluctant participant in this, I'll say because remember

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 15>at the very beginning, this was a commitment by the

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 15>Prime Minister went to those workers, one thousand workers and

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 15>said I've got dull back, I will actually make certain

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 15>that this does not collapse. And so as a result,

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 15>Chris men said, well, you made the announcement, you put

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 15>most of the money in, and of course the Fed

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 15>said well no, no, And so there's been friction between

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 15>the New South Wales government and the federal government over

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 15>who should pay for the bailout of Tomago. Now, as

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 15>it turns out, they've had to do separate deals and

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 15>I think there might be announcements about GST redistribution coming

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 15>in the next little while. I'll be interested to watch

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 15>that because that might be the quid pro quo when

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 15>you say Wales gets something back, particularly from Western Australia.

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 15>But you know the point is to see Chris Bowen's

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 15>standing there. Well, you know this was really all about

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 15>the actual philosophical commitment to renewable energy that really caused

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 15>these industries to become uneconomic in Australia. And this is

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 15>not what we want in Australia. We want dynamic, vibrant,

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 15>competitive businesses here in Australia that stand on their own

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 15>to feed, that don't need government plailouts. That's what this

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 15>country needs, not government simply turning up the whole time

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 15>with a spare billion dollars of your taxpayer dollars to

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 15>simply prop them up.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to something, Chris Ross now that

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Greg Sheridan wrote The Australian during the week because I

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 2>think this is a this is an unhappy collision of

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>foreign policy and economics. He wrote that no country more

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 2>thoroughly practices in places greater value on courtesy, politeness, dignity,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>face and respect than Japan. Now you deal with business,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I know you've dealt with business in Japan as well,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>but you deal with Australian companies who put themselves on

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the front foot with Japan who try and address all

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of these very localized cultural aspects of doing business and

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>doing it well in Japan. How do you think the

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Australian businesses would be walking around the streets of Tokyo

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>this week? How are businesses looking at that relationship and

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 2>looking at the Prime Minister?

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 15>Well, think about it on a couple of levels. Number

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 15>one is not just the way in which Japanese people

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 15>go about their business. Now Again, Japanese people are not

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 15>impolite people, so they will say nothing about this, but

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 15>they will never forget. That's another important thing. The second

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 15>part about this is also bear in mind that this

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 15>government is already under a big question mark by the

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 15>Japanese government, which has actually committed through its companies, many

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 15>tens of billions of to Australian gas export businesses, particularly

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 15>in that Gladstone region. Now they expect to have that

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 15>gas there for their own sovereign security. And the real

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 15>issue right now for Japan is that the government, that is,

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 15>the Albanese government has said it's going to take twenty

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 15>percent of all foreign gas it's destined for places such

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 15>as Japan and use it for the domestic gas industry

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 15>simply because guess what, we can't or have the wherewithal

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 15>to go and find more gas for ourselves, despite the

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 15>fact that we know it's there, we can't approve the

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 15>developments to get that gas out from under our own feet.

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 15>And this is where again, places such as Japan, having

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.719
<v Speaker 15>made commitments knowing that that gas was supposed to be

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 15>basically taken directly to them over a very long period

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 15>of time to create their own nations more security, to

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 15>double cross on that is seen again to be a

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 15>fundamental betrayal. So even more, I suggest than the melon situation,

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 15>is that gas situation is equally seen to be a

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 15>betrayal of trust in the Australian government.

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And the Prime Minister ending over backwards for Beijing at

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>every opportunity. Also, I know has residence in Tokyo.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 7>I'll leave it there.

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Ross, thank you for your time. After the break, she's

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>a new mum now to two little children. Well today

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>she resigns. So how much do we read into the

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>departure of White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt plus the

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 2>five for the soul of the Democrats? The rise of

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the radical left. So are the inmates now in charge

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>of the asylum? Welcome back Stilllicalm the former Islamist fanatic

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 2>who's now sounding the alarm about the social fabric of Australia.

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 2>This is at the Royal Commission into Anti Semitism. The

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 2>First Shop News overnight. White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt,

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>as I said I'm a huge fan, has resigned and

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>would finish her role at the end of the month.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>She said in a statement that the true is since

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>returning to the White House after the birth of my daughter,

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I have felt it in my heart that I cannot

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>be the best mom mum to the best mum that

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>two young children deserve, and that's why I've ultimately made

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the bittersweet decision to depart the White House and embark

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>on a new chapter in my life. Joy mean now

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 2>to discuss this and more, and I'm pleased to say

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>he's in Australia. Our Washington correspondent New twenty four is

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Kursley. Well, John, I know what these jobs are

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>like and compared to working for an Australian Prime minister,

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 2>it would be absolutely next level over where you normally are,

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>so how do you judge this departure. She has got

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 2>two little ones, I think two under the age of two.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>It can absolutely be all about the family, but is

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it more than that.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna get some answers over this over

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 4>the next little while. The big thing for me looking

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 4>at this is the timing. You are just a matter

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.439
<v Speaker 4>of a couple of months out from arguably the most

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 4>important off your elections for quite some time off your elections.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Midtim elect that will shape the final two years of

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump's legacy as president forty seven and the final

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 4>two years of his career as a president. It would

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 4>be a monumental moment. She was the youngest ever White

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 4>House Press secretary, and no disrespect obviously Peter did the

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 4>job you did in a previous lifetime. But this is

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 4>a highly pressured one of the most highly pressured pr

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>jobs in the world, being the voice of the President

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 4>of the United States of America. She was combative, but

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 4>also somebody who was widely seen as perhaps Donald Trump's

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 4>best publicity weapon, and she was utilized often with great effect. Yes,

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 4>there would be battles within the White House Press Corps

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 4>and within the press call more broadly. That is kind

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 4>of par for the course in the nature of the beast,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 4>that is political circles, particularly when you're dealing in politics

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 4>on this sort of magnitude, I always found a pleasure

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 4>to deal with. She was always fascinated by issues in

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Australia's on backyard, particularly when it came to China. But yes,

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 4>going back to your question, Peter, I think the real

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 4>question I have in my mind is the timing around

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 4>all of this. Yes, she's saying it's because she wants

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 4>to go and be a better mother to her children.

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 4>She had a child during the presidential election campaign twenty

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 4>twenty four one, just a matter of three months or

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 4>so ago. Yes, obviously she is a young mother who

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 4>wants to go and say she wants to go and

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 4>do that. But the timing raises significant questions given she

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 4>is obviously somebody who has great political ambition and now

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 4>great political experience as well.

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>We have no other job like it in Australia. We

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 2>don't have anyone speak for our leaders. Our leaders front

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 2>the camera and take a lot more questions, and we

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 2>see in many places overseas, not just the United States.

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I think she's smart as a whip. I think working

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>for any presidents hard, let alone this president, because not

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>only is you out there defending him, he's on Twitter

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>perhaps going in another direction right when you're on your

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>feet talking at the lectern. So, given how good she was,

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is this only be big shoes to feel?

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 7>Is he going to have.

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<v Speaker 2>A demonstrable loss without her there in the press room?

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<v Speaker 4>There's no denying for the president it's a big loss.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Caroline Levitt was always somebody who seemed across her brief

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>and would often respond with if she didn't have the answer,

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 4>while I will go and try and find it for you. Yes,

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 4>she was combat even on the front foot, and she

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 4>was a loyal defender of the president. But there is

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<v Speaker 4>no denying that this is a big role for the

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 4>president to now fill. And the question is where is

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 4>he going to go to. We've seen the likes of

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 4>Stephen Miller being asked today does he want to do it?

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Does he know people around it, who around him who

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<v Speaker 4>would want.

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<v Speaker 1>To do it?

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<v Speaker 4>And it is going to be crucially important. Susie Wild's

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<v Speaker 4>the chief of staff to the President of the United States,

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 4>arguably one of the best political operators at Washington, DC,

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 4>has seen for quite some time. Has a very big

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 4>question to ask, and that is what sort of person

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 4>do they need in the now, not just for the

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 4>next six months, because the last thing and tromp more

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 4>stuff to go and do is do it another sort

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 4>of Scaramouchi and find somebody after eleven days. What they

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 4>need to do now is find somebody who can fill

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 4>the role, not just for the now, but for the

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 4>next two years.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, talk to me about the midterms. I think

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Australians now are getting their head around this war inside

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the Democrats, the rise of the socialist left. I would

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 2>have thought the Democrats were already along that path, but

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 2>this is an even more radical beast inside the party.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>David Crowley, a more mainstream Democrat, just narrowly beating a

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Democratic Socialist in Francesca Wong in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 7>Give me your sense of things.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Francesco Holng's defeat narrow was widely seen as being a surprise.

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't surprise me. She lost that election campaign, the

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Wisconsin governor's Democratic primary race, and the interesting thing there

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>is it was very tight. Yes, she had her issues

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 4>around past comments about wanting to cancel off Thanksgiving, issues

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 4>that dogged her throughout the campaign, and ultimately it was

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 4>her answers to questions I think that led to her

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 4>not getting over the line. But the real interesting takeaway

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 4>from this, Peter, is the real narrow margin we saw

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 4>in that race. Look at the real narrow margin that

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 4>we saw in the Michigan Senate primary last week with

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 4>abdullel said, what that is telling you is that in

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 4>key crucial states that Democrats need to be a united front,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 4>not just for the midterms, but looking ahead to twenty

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 4>twenty eight. It's almost a split down the middle. Both

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 4>those votes were sort of forty nine and a half

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 4>fifty and a half fifty one forty nine, And that

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 4>tells you that right now in key areas, this party

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 4>has an identity crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're not radical states. I mean, we're talking

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>about middle of Erica in many respects in terms of

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the political map. We're not talking about New York and California. Here, Wisconsin, Michigan.

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 2>And I know there are pockets of a high Muslim vote,

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 2>for example in Michigan, but this is unusual territory, Jonathan.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.840
<v Speaker 4>It is unusual territory, and the man Dani effect is

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 4>not going to work. The same way that it did

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.759
<v Speaker 4>in New York in other parts of the country. That's

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 4>purely down to the demographic of a particular state. But

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 4>I think when you look at these midterms too, yes,

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 4>the Democrats have a serious issue to fix, and that

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 4>is trying to find their identity and work out what

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 4>that is going forward. But the one who has the

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 4>most to lose out of all of this, it's really

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>President Trump. If he loses both the House and the Senate,

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 4>that is arguably a disaster.

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Zone for him.

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 4>It puts him in absolute blame duck territory, and it

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 4>makes real questions to be posed about what does he

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 4>actually then want to do with the last two years.

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 4>Does he want to hang around being the big one,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 4>and how would he actually want to handle that environment

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 4>if he loses one, most likely the House, or how

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 4>is he going to move forward on that front? Because

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you can imagine that there will well be moves by

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the Democrats to have some sort of impeachment move in

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 4>the House in some way, shape or form if they can.

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Now obviously that would be defeated in the Senate if

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 4>they didn't win it. But he has a lot more

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 4>to lose in these midterms than perhaps the Democrats too. Yes,

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 4>they need to find their identity, they need to find

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 4>a leader looking forward to twenty twenty eight, but it's

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 4>President Trump who right now has most to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>We will watch it all closely. And thank you for

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>being on the show. I don't often get the chance

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 2>because your hours don't work with my showtime. It's great

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 2>to have you in Australia and have that opportunity.

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Jonathan.

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>All Right, before the break, have a look at this

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>viral post of an Amazon delivery driver in the United States.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 7>I just loved it.

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought i'd have to show it to you tonight.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 2>We've talked to me here about flags. I'd love to

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 2>see anyone respect a flag like that, a national flag,

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>and you respect down flag blooded my inbox. My goodness,

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.919
<v Speaker 2>you're proud, aren't you. You are wonderful Australians. You love

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 2>our flag and you love to fly it as much

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 2>as I do. I've got images in my inbox from

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>all over the country, suburbs, paddocks in the bush. It's

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>some pretty amazing scenery, I must say, the beach scenes

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and the river scenes. Your beautifully kept front lawns and

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 2>all the pets you've got in your snaps. I love

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it all. Keep it coming. It's the best part of

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>my day to open those emails. I'll keep showing them.

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Let's see if we can get it all the way

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>through it to Christmas. All right, after the break, the

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 2>former is a Limist extremists warning about the rise of

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism in Australia. All right, before I bring in

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 2>my panel and get across a whole lot of other rishes,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I promised you before I tell you how the Prime

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Minister ended up on that bush deep or deep bush

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is. Podcast Nicky Osbourne's Infamous Melons podcast,

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>We'll look at this.

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 7>Mark Bouros, who has his own podcast, has just.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Hosted a video about how on Earth she got the

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister to go on her podcast.

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 7>Have a listen to this favarette.

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm going a DM the PM and invite him on

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 2>mym the DM the PM.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.479
<v Speaker 7>And I did, and he got back to meek straight

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 7>away went sure, sounds like a lot of food.

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Have you spoken to the Prime Minister since?

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 11>No, I haven't spoken to him since because I haven't

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 11>known how to.

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 10>Phrase it, because I don't want to go was it

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 10>as good for you as.

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<v Speaker 7>It was for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's smart all the way through. Joined me now

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>on my panel on New twenty four contributed Kosher Garda

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and former Labor MP Michael Danby.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, on so many levels.

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 2>The crassness, the crew, the smart, all of that put

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that to one side. But I've never known a political

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 2>leader to respond to a text message from anyone in

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the media or anyone they don't know. It's risky beyond belief.

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 2>But for that girl to slide into his DMS on

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>his social media, yeah, the PM respond and the next

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>thing you know, she's sitting in the living room at

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 2>the lodge and they're talking all manner of smart and

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:13.319
<v Speaker 2>really unedifying content. Is this really where we're up to

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:14.480
<v Speaker 2>now in Australia?

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 12>Unprofessional, undisciplined. The other serious people and the socialist left

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 12>who run the government, Mark Butler and Penny Wall we'd

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 12>be giving him a private kick saying go through your

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 12>press office, stop doing this kind of stuff. But it

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 12>does worry me. I mean, his wife made a very

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 12>credible speech about public health matter and he's off with

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 12>you basically fluosies in his office, you know, just sort

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 12>of sucking up to them, pretending that's the youth vote.

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Unprofessional, undisciplined people say to me that this is the

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 2>elbow evolved. Is this the sort of bloke he was

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 2>in your experience? Yes, yeah, I think we're starting to

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 2>really see the color of the guy's money. All right,

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>let's go to some comments today. I mentioned a former

0:45:56.960 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Islamist fronting the Bondo will commiss. He is a Canadian

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:05.800
<v Speaker 2>who has been heavily involved in de radicalization. Have to

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>listen to this warning. He's given Australia a warning, he says,

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 2>about this critical grap gap in our deradicalization programs, speaking

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>about social division in this country, which he says will

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 2>be exploited if we do not deal with anti Semitism.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 16>What we've seen also is that seventy percent of our

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 16>cases show some kind of antisemitic influence. In other cases,

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 16>the anti Semitism is just one of a number of

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 16>hateful ideas that they may have, but it does anti

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 16>Semitism appears to be the connective tissue across extremist ideologies.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>All right, coacher, his name is Movement Shake. He's literally

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 2>at the cold face to some of the cold face.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Some of the worst of the worst. When a bloke

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like that gives us a warning like that, we have

0:46:59.080 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>got to listen.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, and good for him. I couldn't help but notice

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 9>the absurdity that it takes reformed Islamist extremist to make

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 9>that point. So there is a little bit absurdity there.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.799
<v Speaker 9>But yes, he's making that point. He knows of what

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 9>he speaks, given the perspective he comes from, anti Semitism,

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 9>anti Christian, anti white, all of that, and we know

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 9>the reasons for that. Step one is have unabated immigration

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.399
<v Speaker 9>from all sorts of different pockets of the world. Step two,

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.399
<v Speaker 9>remove all the incentives for simulation. Step three, in fact,

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 9>pander to the different groups. That's what you get. That's

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 9>the recipe of it. It's maybe amplified now because of

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 9>what he's talking about, but the foundations for that have

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 9>been in place for a long time.

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 7>And we know we talk a lot about the UK.

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 2>We see it obviously in the UK, but we are

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.280
<v Speaker 2>really now saying it inside the Democratic Party in the States.

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 9>Yes, and all these wins, we're just talking about it.

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 9>In your previous segment of the extreme lefts It makes

0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 9>even AOC who's moderating now even though he believes her

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 9>see more moderate because that's the way the momentum is.

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 9>There is enough again of that electorate that's putting those

0:47:58.360 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 9>people into office.

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 7>And fun times had we.

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Looked around the streets of our capital cities today and

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 2>all these students out there protesting against Pauline Hansen, displaying

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 2>their ignorance, their literacy, everything else was on display. Michael,

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 2>but I was shocked about those reports. In relation to

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Sydney University this week, there was an academic there, Ben Fahima,

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>connections with Iran money that we are spending in our universities,

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>with nation states that don't want to do Australia any favors.

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 7>What the heck's going on?

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>If our kids in high school are this bad and

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 2>our universities are this bad, you know what hope is there?

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 12>Penny, You would have thought that Professor Scott would have

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 12>noticed that the Iranian Intelligence Service was accused by Asia

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 12>and proved by Asia to be involved in terrorism all

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 12>over Australia. Professor Scott, I know you were a chairman

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 12>of the ABC, but you've got to take these things seriously.

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 12>That's the place where all of these barring of Jewish

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 12>students from going into.

0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 2>The head of Head of City UNI. It was VC

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:11.479
<v Speaker 2>the VC City UNI.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 12>I'm sorry the old Polish saying the fish thinks from

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 12>the head. You've got to have leaders who show leadership

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 12>and you can't allow this kind of behavior. He should

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 12>have had a bar on all academics from that university,

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 12>like all responsible vice chancellors should on attending states that

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 12>they are in a state of war that are antagonistic

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 12>to Australia, particularly ones that have demonstrated their ability to

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 12>interfere in Australian internal affairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a bit long, but i just want you

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to tell my viewers about the cost that we will

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 2>spend for the head of the treaty in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 9>Four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's the going rate

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<v Speaker 9>for the DEI complex. I'll use that broader term that's

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<v Speaker 9>been propped up now for generations. Is taking a hit,

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<v Speaker 9>but it is there, and these people would never function

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<v Speaker 9>of that read in a normal free market if they

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<v Speaker 9>actually was the years of actual companies that had shareholders

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<v Speaker 9>and metrics that they had to respond to.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's salary, it's shocking salary. Leave it there, thank

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<v Speaker 7>you both.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, this is the voice in Victoria, and even

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<v Speaker 2>though Victorians voted against it in a federal sense, they

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<v Speaker 2>got it anyway.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll leave it there, have a terrific weekend. See your Monday.

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<v Speaker 7>Parliament's back. Of course, here's Andrew