Speaker 1: A good A team good Patrick, gooda good a Tiff Hey,
Speaker 1: Tiff and I were just talking while you're off having
Speaker 1: a Wii, Patrick or whatever you were doing, just backing
Speaker 1: one out and really.
Speaker 2: Thirty second not even thirty seconds in, and it's just
Speaker 2: too cras well.
Speaker 1: It wasn't yours, wasn't it for I? That was back
Speaker 1: and so don't.
Speaker 2: Blame us leading something down with a fountain pen. The
Speaker 2: you go, they say that, do you use a pen?
Speaker 1: So Diff and I were talking about like high pitched noises.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it came up.
Speaker 3: Because I had to go turn the exhaust fan off
Speaker 3: because I just heard it, and then I couldn't unhear it.
Speaker 1: That's right. So in my office where I'm at now,
Speaker 1: if Melissa's over here doing work junk and whatever, there's
Speaker 1: apparently a sound in my office that she can hear,
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh my god, doesn't that annoy you?
Speaker 1: I can't even hear it, Like it's not like I
Speaker 1: don't find it annoying, I can't actually hear it. And
Speaker 1: then Tip was telling me, will you tell the story.
Speaker 3: I used to work at a restaurant in Tazzy and
Speaker 3: they had this electric kind of frequency thing plugged into
Speaker 3: the PowerPoint that kept ants away, that ants could hear
Speaker 3: it and wouldn't come. And I could hear it. I
Speaker 3: could hear the noise. And I said the harves was
Speaker 3: for annoying little critters, and yeah, I could hear it.
Speaker 2: So if you can hear a repetitive winding sound when
Speaker 2: you're with Craig, it's Craig.
Speaker 1: Very hopeful.
Speaker 3: And here I am unplugging everything all the time, wondering
Speaker 3: what doesn't go away?
Speaker 4: Now, what's interesting?
Speaker 2: I can remember I've got a young guy who works
Speaker 2: for me after school. And there's a level or a
Speaker 2: tone at which, as we get older we can't hear it.
Speaker 4: And there was a while.
Speaker 2: There where teenagers were playing music in school classrooms or
Speaker 2: playing noises that the teachers couldn't because they were too old.
Speaker 4: So there's a.
Speaker 2: Range of frequency range that only young people can actually hear.
Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 1: You know, you two are being very hurtful to me.
Speaker 5: We're sorry, Harps, we love you.
Speaker 1: Very insecure. Yeah, I think that's a thing. I think
Speaker 1: that that not being able to It's the same with dogs.
Speaker 1: Don't dogs hear a certain pitch that humans can't hear.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you too.
Speaker 1: Should test that now, Patrick, I sent you a I
Speaker 1: mean you are the tech guy. I knew the guy
Speaker 1: that comes up with the topics, but I sent I
Speaker 1: saw something this week in the tech realm that I thought,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my friend would my friend would love
Speaker 1: not only would he love one of these, but I
Speaker 1: think he would fucking love this job. Tell Tiff what
Speaker 1: and our listeners what I sent you?
Speaker 4: Look In the most simplest terms, it's a jet pack.
Speaker 2: It's a lot more sophisticated than the ones that I
Speaker 2: saw when I was fourteen at the Royal Melbourne Show
Speaker 2: that I've been drooling over since I was fourteen. But
Speaker 2: a British company has called test called Gravity now allows
Speaker 2: people to do test flights.
Speaker 4: Of this jet pack and it is amazing.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a cross between the backpack, but it
Speaker 2: also looks a bit like Iron Man from the Marvel movies.
Speaker 4: And so Craigo sent it through to me.
Speaker 2: But I did a bit more research Crago because when
Speaker 2: we go to the UK, we can do these test flights.
Speaker 4: So there's a special offer.
Speaker 2: At the moment it's one five hundred pounds, but then
Speaker 2: if you do the full flight experience.
Speaker 4: It kind of jumps a little bit.
Speaker 2: More, but I figure you could shout it's two hundred
Speaker 2: pounds and then to do a whole day of flight
Speaker 2: training it jumps. This is just the training is six
Speaker 2: six hundred, so probably about ten grand to do a
Speaker 2: day's training.
Speaker 1: The idea of learning to fly a jetpack sounds fraught
Speaker 1: with danger.
Speaker 2: Now they have a gantry right with ropes and supports
Speaker 2: and all that. See, that's the thing. You go there
Speaker 2: and they tether you to this gantry so that you're safe.
Speaker 2: But I want to be out in the forest and
Speaker 2: just fly over lakes and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But you know, there are some places you can go to,
Speaker 2: I think in Queensland, and they have these water based
Speaker 2: jet packs. So what they It's like you've got a
Speaker 2: jet ski underneath you and as you start to move,
Speaker 2: it just uses water to propel you.
Speaker 4: Have you seen that tip?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really want to do that. Maybe we could
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 2: Craig go on holiday in Queensland and just do the
Speaker 2: water jet pack experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it sounds super gay, but you're gay, but
Speaker 1: I'm not. But that's okay. It's okay, it's okay that
Speaker 1: it's going to.
Speaker 2: Come with us, you and I go to the water park.
Speaker 1: Really, can we not go to the UFC as well?
Speaker 1: Can we not do something?
Speaker 4: What about the trucks? What's what's the trucks?
Speaker 1: Can we just upset the water parks with fucking monster trucks?
Speaker 2: Are you telling me that putting on a water jet
Speaker 2: pack is gay and monster trucks isn't?
Speaker 4: Like? What the hell?
Speaker 1: What? I don't know, I don't know. It just no,
Speaker 1: just you and me going to the water parks in
Speaker 1: Queensland on a holiday, you know, But that's all right,
Speaker 1: I said, sporty, I'm com before we go on. I
Speaker 1: just remembered we had heaps of messages this week with
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why we don't
Speaker 1: have a photo of you up much, but there was
Speaker 1: a photo of you and Tiff, But I thought we
Speaker 1: have your scone on maybe because it was on general
Speaker 1: distribution and not on our page. But how many people say, oh,
Speaker 1: Patrick's nothing like what I thought? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's either a compliment or an insult.
Speaker 4: We thought it was dark and handsome.
Speaker 1: Either way, it's an insult because like either they think
Speaker 1: you've got this fucking movie star voice and then they
Speaker 1: see your head and they're like, oh that's disappointing, or
Speaker 1: the other way or the other way around. They think
Speaker 1: your movie star looks but you've got a ship voice.
Speaker 1: What do you get that? Have you had that feedback before?
Speaker 4: No, but I'm going to go from cry for a bit.
Speaker 1: Well you do have the dulcin No. I think you're
Speaker 1: quite a good looking man, but you also have a
Speaker 1: good look at Let's go to the water parks in Queensland. No,
Speaker 1: but you do. Sorry, I'm just fucking hell. Well, clearly
Speaker 1: I'm no good at women. So let's fucking let's try it.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Are you speaking of relationships? I
Speaker 1: know I'm digressing, but you two are pretty much at
Speaker 1: the verge of a life together. Can you explain to
Speaker 1: Tiff what we would I know this is inappropriate, but
Speaker 1: fuck our listeners.
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 1: Our listeners love this bit the best.
Speaker 3: They like I'm not to post I'm not opposed to
Speaker 3: a situation ship with Patrick.
Speaker 2: Actually, look I love that, and you know why when
Speaker 2: we have a private conversation do you then bring it
Speaker 2: up in the podcast?
Speaker 4: Can I tell my operating things. I said it.
Speaker 2: I was saying, I really enjoyed hanging out with Tiff
Speaker 2: last weekend, and I could be in a relationship with her.
Speaker 2: I said, it'd be everything except sex. We could probably spoon, but.
Speaker 4: She's awesome. Look, seriously, Tiff.
Speaker 2: Is just the ideal, perfect person everything. I'd tick all
Speaker 2: the boxes there, Tiff.
Speaker 3: Now, perhaps did mentioned it last night, and I've booked
Speaker 3: out some time to go dress shopping.
Speaker 4: So awesome, So I'd be up for that. Not for you,
Speaker 4: a dress for her, you idiot, heard a company.
Speaker 1: See I reckon Now. Patrick's proposal to me was not
Speaker 1: that kind of proposal. His hypothetical scenario with you was
Speaker 1: he would marry you. He said he would marry you
Speaker 1: if you would allow him a semi regular, you know,
Speaker 1: Saturday night off dalliance with somebody with a cock. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, okay, and boy, all right? Well whatever?
Speaker 3: Fuck?
Speaker 1: I don't know these.
Speaker 4: Days goes from bad to worse.
Speaker 1: No, Well, I mean obviously he likes boys, not girls,
Speaker 1: but he could marry you.
Speaker 5: And what did you say, harps when he.
Speaker 1: Said that, I said, well, you're about forty, dude, so
Speaker 1: that's not I mean you say that yourself, so it's
Speaker 1: not like the worst combo.
Speaker 5: Oh well when we when?
Speaker 4: When?
Speaker 5: When are we all going to put it together?
Speaker 2: This went to the wedding projeck dating, so this could
Speaker 2: be the first t YP marriage.
Speaker 1: I mean, like anything goes in twenty twenty four, so
Speaker 1: why not? I mean, you guys, apart from the sex bit,
Speaker 1: I think you guys would be a stellar couple. And
Speaker 1: if you could go live in the country and then
Speaker 1: your dogs could be best friends, that'd become brothers, sisters, sisters,
Speaker 1: well siblings, canine siblings. As long as Fritz didn't eat
Speaker 1: fucking the cat bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think yeah, cats would get it
Speaker 2: over a dog anytime because cats have sharp claws. I
Speaker 2: think I wouldn't let Fritz near an angry cat.
Speaker 1: All right, can you two stop distracting me? Let's talk.
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny when I'm the problem on my own
Speaker 1: show with that doubt?
Speaker 2: A couple of really nice segues right throughout this conversation.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to jump in and not let you start.
Speaker 2: So I got to say, now I missed out on it,
Speaker 2: but that you were there. We caught up in castle
Speaker 2: Maine because we went to well, you went to a
Speaker 2: concert and it's where you featured, didn't you.
Speaker 5: A little bit? A little bit just saying of a.
Speaker 2: Song video clip, I feel like I'm in the presence
Speaker 2: of someone famous.
Speaker 4: Craig.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is why you want to marry her, because
Speaker 1: you're a bloody.
Speaker 5: You're a wannabe writing on my coattails.
Speaker 1: That's you're a groupie, like just because Tip's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Now you don't have to marry her dragging along by
Speaker 2: the straps on your your boxing gloves.
Speaker 1: Hey. Now.
Speaker 2: The reason I thought about this though, was because there's
Speaker 2: some study that's come out into shared music experiences. So
Speaker 2: what it revealed is that obviously when we listen to music,
Speaker 2: I can evoke a reaction, so you know, if it's
Speaker 2: a ode. To Joy, for example, is probably one of
Speaker 2: the most beautiful pieces of music ever written by Beethoven.
Speaker 2: And by coincidence, every year ABC Classic FM does a
Speaker 2: one hundred countdown and their topic this year was the
Speaker 2: top one hundred feel good tunes and to Joy we
Speaker 2: all know O to Joy, Yeah, to google it, you'll
Speaker 2: know it. So shared music experiences extenuate the sensation. So
Speaker 2: listening to a really good piece of music, kind of
Speaker 2: voke reaction. But what the study has found is if
Speaker 2: you share it with somebody else, it enhances it even more,
Speaker 2: and the connectedness between you and the person you're sharing
Speaker 2: it with. And when I think back to some of
Speaker 2: the best concerts I've ever been in or been to,
Speaker 2: what's enhanced that even more is the person I was
Speaker 2: there with at the time, enjoying it with. So I
Speaker 2: went to Imagine Dragons a few years ago with my
Speaker 2: nephew and his girlfriend, and you know, it was embarrassing
Speaker 2: for them because I sing along with all the songs.
Speaker 4: Do you do that tip?
Speaker 3: Did you do? No?
Speaker 5: I definitely known lip sync?
Speaker 4: Do you sing a long? Crego?
Speaker 5: He's got a great singing voice.
Speaker 1: I do not. I do not.
Speaker 5: You do have a great singing voice, though.
Speaker 1: I can sing vaguely in tune. But if I'm at
Speaker 1: a concert, no one needs me fucking warbling next to
Speaker 1: them while the actual artists are on stage.
Speaker 3: I save birthday songs from harps on my voicemail and
Speaker 3: listen to them regularly.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's really great. I didn't know that about you, Crego.
Speaker 5: M It's true. She's denying it. But it's actually true.
Speaker 4: True, So that's that's really impressive.
Speaker 2: If you can, I think, if you can hold a tone,
Speaker 2: even depending on your vocal range, just being able to
Speaker 2: keep your voice in tone I think makes the biggest
Speaker 2: difference as to listening experience is pleasurable or not. But
Speaker 2: so this study showed that sharing music even virtually can
Speaker 2: really enhance the pleasure. And we're talking about triggering in orphans.
Speaker 2: It was a study published by e Science and they
Speaker 2: looked across the effects with a number of different experiments
Speaker 2: online with participants in the United States and France. So
Speaker 2: even listening with somebody, So remember the old mixtapes and
Speaker 2: you'd put a headphone in one ear and you'd share
Speaker 2: the earpiece with another person, and then you wonder, that's.
Speaker 1: God, you're you're so fucking old. But I remember that,
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember this is how old I am.
Speaker 1: Bro I remember making mixtapes, pressing play and record on
Speaker 1: the cassette player off the radio.
Speaker 4: Ye, me too, and then you just.
Speaker 1: Missed the start of the song because the fucking DJ
Speaker 1: was introing it right, and then they kind of just
Speaker 1: wind it up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was really annoying when they talked over the
Speaker 4: intro to the Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those were the days though. That was
Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of research out on the relationship
Speaker 1: or the impact of music on people's nervous system. So if,
Speaker 1: for example, you hear something like ode to Join it, Like,
Speaker 1: the interesting thing too, is it's like you might hear
Speaker 1: a piece of music like somebody loves classical music, and
Speaker 1: that switches on their parasympathetic you know, the calm parasympathetic
Speaker 1: nervous system at lowers their heart rate, blood pressure, slows
Speaker 1: their breathing, right, and that's because they love it. Somebody
Speaker 1: else fucking hates it, right, and it does the opposite.
Speaker 1: So it's not like this music produces a universal response.
Speaker 1: Like some people love country and western it's all they
Speaker 1: listen to. For other people, the same song is like,
Speaker 1: you know, fingernails on a blackboard. So, but it is
Speaker 1: interesting the way that your physiology responds to differently to
Speaker 1: the same stimulus to someone else.
Speaker 4: Well, it's amazing, that's said.
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting that if you book a survey, and
Speaker 2: that's why I like the top one hundred countdown, but
Speaker 2: to have so many people vote and that number one
Speaker 2: song being owed to Joy out of all their listenership,
Speaker 2: and we're talking tens of thousands of people, hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of people who vote on this.
Speaker 4: I just thought it was.
Speaker 2: Quite interesting because it's one that I would have put
Speaker 2: it really high on the list for me. And it's
Speaker 2: funny when people say that I don't like classical music
Speaker 2: and then you say, oh, did you like that movie?
Speaker 2: Turn the music down or turn the audio down when
Speaker 2: you're watching a scary movie or an uplifting rom com
Speaker 2: and the music just helps with the sense of the emotion.
Speaker 2: If you watch something, you know, like a Stephen King
Speaker 2: film and you turn the music if it's not scary anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I think also with research, I had
Speaker 1: to be a fucking kill joy. But if you ask
Speaker 1: that same question to a thousand people under thirty, you're
Speaker 1: not getting owed to Joy as the answer.
Speaker 2: But if they, if they hear it with the music
Speaker 2: and the way that it's composed, still have that same effect.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean it depends like it's like music is
Speaker 1: a really powerful thing, isn't it, And it's like you.
Speaker 2: Report next time I've got my sixteen year old in
Speaker 2: I'm going to put a set of headphones on him,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to play three pieces of music. You
Speaker 2: guys choose one piece each. I'll choose the Joy. If
Speaker 2: you guys want to choose one each, then I'll play
Speaker 2: all three and we'll get him to do a rating
Speaker 2: of one to ten on each piece of music, and
Speaker 2: we'll see if the Joy comes out on top.
Speaker 5: I don't choose the Boxer, what of course you do?
Speaker 4: Come on, Craig, you got to choose a piece of music.
Speaker 1: Just that one sixteen year old kid constitutes a study?
Speaker 5: Any rand?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a mini study.
Speaker 2: Come on, choose a piece of music on the spot.
Speaker 1: Ala Lujah?
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's true?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I will play all three, and but
Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm going to tell you which
Speaker 1: version of Ala Lujah?
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll go and then well, I've.
Speaker 1: Got to find I've just got to find the right artist.
Speaker 1: Not Katie Lang. She does a good version, but there
Speaker 1: are better versions.
Speaker 4: All right? Done?
Speaker 2: Can I give a shout out to the Dale Patterson
Speaker 2: who sent me a link.
Speaker 4: He's one of our listeners from Geelong and he sent
Speaker 4: me a link.
Speaker 2: To a really cool tech website which was really interesting
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Love how you say can I and then you do it.
Speaker 1: No you can't, can't fiance, No, no, you can't shout
Speaker 1: out to Dale? What what was Dale emailing you about?
Speaker 4: A tech website? Just lots of gadgets and stuff.
Speaker 2: Of course, a fellow geek is he I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't want to wrap him up in that bundle. I
Speaker 2: don't think that's very nice. I don't know him. He
Speaker 2: could be a a nice, interesting person.
Speaker 1: And I love geeks. We love geeks. We love you. Hey.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I've been interested in and
Speaker 1: we've spoken about, I think once or twice maybe, or
Speaker 1: maybe we haven't, but I feel like we have is
Speaker 1: animals and language and how elephants have their own language,
Speaker 1: dolphins have their own language. And I think you have
Speaker 1: a story in the space.
Speaker 2: Well, just there's a nice little seguay to that too.
Speaker 2: Do you know elephants? Actually, it's now thought they have names.
Speaker 2: They name each other, so they rock up in the
Speaker 2: middle of the jungle and say, hey, Bob, how are
Speaker 2: you not too bad?
Speaker 4: Betty? Now it's interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 2: But I do have a story about this, because look
Speaker 2: for me, I reckon, I've got a good handle on
Speaker 2: the kind of mood that Fritz is in. And you
Speaker 2: know when a dog wags its tail and has all
Speaker 2: these different cues. As a dog owner is a pet owner, tiff,
Speaker 2: you would have a fairly good indication as to whether
Speaker 2: your pet's happy or sad or excited, idable and all
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But it's now thought that AI
Speaker 2: potentially could actually translate what a dog is saying when
Speaker 2: it barks.
Speaker 4: So imagine that if with every bark.
Speaker 2: A wine, or a growl, you could even know what
Speaker 2: the dog is effectively trying to communicate to you, and
Speaker 2: then in the future they could even.
Speaker 4: Translate what craigs say.
Speaker 2: No, But when you think about it, using AI to
Speaker 2: analyze the tonal vocalizations of dogs, they say they can
Speaker 2: distinguish between playful barks, aggressive growls, identify characteristics and even
Speaker 2: the age and the breed of the dog by the
Speaker 2: sound that it makes.
Speaker 1: Wow, here's what dog dogs are saying. Four things right.
Speaker 1: Dogs are saying I need a shit. Yeah, they're saying
Speaker 1: I want to go for a walk, give me some
Speaker 1: fucking food, and I love you. That's the four things
Speaker 1: dogs are saying. So you're welcome. I just broke the code.
Speaker 4: But you know, when a dog wags its tail, most
Speaker 4: people associate that with being excited. So you meet a
Speaker 4: new dog and the tail starts wagging. But what people
Speaker 4: don't realize is depending on which way the tail is
Speaker 4: leaning to so it will predominantly go left or right,
Speaker 4: can actually mean apprehensive and potentially be not so much
Speaker 4: a show of aggression but a show of apprehension.
Speaker 2: So when two dogs meet each other, the tail can
Speaker 2: be wagging, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're happy. It
Speaker 2: could mean that they're apprehensive about meeting the other dog
Speaker 2: or the situation that they're in, just by which way
Speaker 2: the tail goes.
Speaker 4: So yes and no.
Speaker 1: Well, when I introduce you to new people, I always
Speaker 1: look at the way that your tail wags, and I
Speaker 1: can tell if you're a little bit kind of like
Speaker 1: fearful or joyful. That's why I always walk around the back.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a thing that people get dressed up
Speaker 2: as what do they call that up play?
Speaker 1: Is that it Well, there are people that let's not open.
Speaker 1: That let's not open?
Speaker 4: Can we can we continue on the AI theme.
Speaker 2: I thought this was really awesome because I think probably
Speaker 2: about a year ago, there was a photographer who entered
Speaker 2: a photo competition with an AI image and won it,
Speaker 2: and of course then it was revealed that the photo
Speaker 2: wasn't a real photograph, it had been generated by AI,
Speaker 2: and then he was disqualified and it made all the
Speaker 2: headlines and there's all this controversy. Well, a different photographer,
Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Miles Astra, has done
Speaker 2: the exact opposite. He's entered a photo competition where there
Speaker 2: was a category for AI generated artwork or AI generated photography,
Speaker 2: but he put a real image in and he won competition,
Speaker 2: and it was this really amazing photograph of a pink flamingo,
Speaker 2: and the judges and everybody thought, this is fantastic.
Speaker 4: Is an AI amazing?
Speaker 2: And the photographer said he actually it was a real photograph,
Speaker 2: and so he then got disqualified for submitting a real
Speaker 2: photograph in an AI competition.
Speaker 4: So I thought, it's kind of interesting that.
Speaker 2: And we're not talking just run of the mill people
Speaker 2: off the street, you and me. We're talking about some
Speaker 2: pretty smart people from Getty Images, the New York Times,
Speaker 2: you know, Christie's. So the judges knew what they were
Speaker 2: talking about, and they kind of had a real sense of.
Speaker 4: What a good photograph is.
Speaker 2: But I just thought it was kind of great to
Speaker 2: flip it around and that this photographer came up with
Speaker 2: the idea. So this guy Miles Astray and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good on him.
Speaker 2: It was the eighteen thirty nine Color Photography Awards, and
Speaker 2: so he actually won two categories.
Speaker 4: One is he came third in.
Speaker 2: The I think it was the judges Award, and then
Speaker 2: he came first in the People's Vote Award.
Speaker 4: So everyone was fulled.
Speaker 1: Everyone was tricked. I don't know that that's going to
Speaker 1: happen too often moving forward, but I like real photography. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what this is about, and this
Speaker 1: isn't on our list of things to chat about, but
Speaker 1: maybe you know. So Melissa who is like the Apple queen,
Speaker 1: Like if you could marry Apple, Melissa would marry Apple.
Speaker 4: I've got competition. What I've got competition?
Speaker 1: Oh she is? She crushes so hard. You know Apple
Speaker 1: is gay as well, right, Well, if Apple brought out
Speaker 1: a toilet, she'd get an Apple toilet, like she would
Speaker 1: get any Apple product. But this week, didn't Apple launch something.
Speaker 1: Didn't they wheel out something like their version of chat
Speaker 1: GPT or some verged it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, This is really controversial.
Speaker 2: In fact, it was something that I was going to
Speaker 2: talk about because what's happened is they've basically Apple has
Speaker 2: this big event and it talks about all their new
Speaker 2: up and coming stuff, and one of the things they're
Speaker 2: talking about is merging AI into the Siri operating system,
Speaker 2: so they're taking the next so it's a big makeover
Speaker 2: for Siri.
Speaker 4: So effectively, what.
Speaker 2: It's going to do is going to make Siri more natural,
Speaker 2: more relevant, they're saying, more personal.
Speaker 4: It's got a new look.
Speaker 2: The icon's been made to look different and it glows better.
Speaker 2: But what they're saying now is that you can also
Speaker 2: handle things like stumbles in speech, so if someone has
Speaker 2: a stutter, it'll better understand context. And you can also
Speaker 2: type to Syria, and it can answer questions about how
Speaker 2: you use your iPhone and you iMac and your iPad
Speaker 2: and all.
Speaker 4: That sort of thing.
Speaker 2: The other thing it'll also be able to do is
Speaker 2: interact with the other apps on your phone, so that's
Speaker 2: one of the things that Siri hasn't been able to
Speaker 2: do in the past. So you can get it to
Speaker 2: go and interact with other apps, and it's going to
Speaker 2: make the user experience a lot better.
Speaker 4: However, there is a little bit of controversy.
Speaker 2: Now we know that Elon Musk loves to be the
Speaker 2: controversial person, but.
Speaker 4: He's come out.
Speaker 2: Elon Musk has this love hate relationship with AI, so
Speaker 2: he effectively a second This was announced by Apple within hours,
Speaker 2: He's tweeted about saying that he's going to cancel iPhones,
Speaker 2: that none of his staff will be allowed to bring
Speaker 2: iPhones into the building and if they do, they'll be
Speaker 2: told to take out.
Speaker 4: Their iPhones and their iPhones will be put in a
Speaker 4: Faraday cage. Do you know what a Faraday cage is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So they's yeah, like, but nobody will be
Speaker 1: allowed to enter any of his buildings, like customers, nobody
Speaker 1: with an Apple product.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean mind you he's I think he's
Speaker 2: suing open AI or there's some sort of case going
Speaker 2: on at the moment.
Speaker 4: So there's there's a bit of bad blood there.
Speaker 2: But the reason he says that he doesn't want this
Speaker 2: integration or he thinks it's a bad thing, is that
Speaker 2: he feels that effectively, what it's going to do is
Speaker 2: it's just going to make them spying devices. He says
Speaker 2: that you know effectively it's just going to to kind
Speaker 2: of run a muck and that people will be able
Speaker 2: to spy on him using their iPhones.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I've noticed recently using chat GPT
Speaker 1: four point zero. Patrick James is that old mate who
Speaker 1: sounds like Tim Ferriss. That's the dude that talks to me,
Speaker 1: sounds exactly like Tim Ferriss. He doesn't always get my
Speaker 1: Australian accent. So sometimes I just need to americanize the
Speaker 1: question because I don't type. I usually just talk like
Speaker 1: you know how you can just ask it a question
Speaker 1: and then it types and gives audio for the answer.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it says, oh, I think you're asking you know?
Speaker 1: And then then I say it again with a less
Speaker 1: Boganny voice, and it understands what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: wonder if the new Apple product can understand Bogans. Maybe
Speaker 1: probably a Bogan friendly Bogan friendly AI. I bet they
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is over there?
Speaker 4: Not a chance if you were going to say something,
Speaker 4: because I.
Speaker 3: Was going to say joy, let everyone else know? Could
Speaker 3: I had to google it? Anyone that mightn't know what
Speaker 3: a Faraday cage is?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So Faraday cage if you can imagine just
Speaker 2: a wire mesh around you.
Speaker 4: So they usually use them during experiments.
Speaker 2: So if you were you know how you can have
Speaker 2: like a basically, if you if you had lightning come down,
Speaker 2: you could protect yourself inside a Faraday cage. So it
Speaker 2: insulates you from an electrical discharge.
Speaker 4: Is that all the right answer, Tiff?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it protects from an electromagnetic radiation and if you're interference.
Speaker 3: I was thinking it might just be a lock box,
Speaker 3: and I thought I might get one for chocolate around here, But.
Speaker 4: Have you your chocolate from last weekend already?
Speaker 2: I ate it on the way home, so did I
Speaker 2: didn't get out of the car, so we bought chocolate
Speaker 2: at the chocolate shop. Mine didn't make it back to
Speaker 2: the land. It was only about forty five minutes away.
Speaker 5: One didn't even.
Speaker 3: Make it out of Castle Maye or Castle Maine if
Speaker 3: you're fancy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is it Castle made or Castle Maine?
Speaker 2: Maybe someone from Castle Maine or Castle Magan tell us,
Speaker 2: I never know, Crag, I said.
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: It? I think people from up there call it castle.
Speaker 1: I'm a bogan, so I call it castle. But I
Speaker 1: think interestingly. And this's got nothing to do with tech.
Speaker 1: But remember if that dude we had on I think
Speaker 1: his name is Dean Morby, the Power Left to Do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's from Castle, Maine and all these homies up there,
Speaker 1: so shout out to I mean, this is just we'll
Speaker 1: come back in thirty seconds, Patrick. But this guy trains
Speaker 1: a whole lot of older citizens, a lot of fifty plus,
Speaker 1: sixty seventy plus, and he's basically well last time I
Speaker 1: spoke to him. Anyway, I assume he's still doing it.
Speaker 1: He had essentially a power lifting Jim Castle May Yeah,
Speaker 1: for all these old people, and yeah, what's that? What
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 5: Castle?
Speaker 2: I looked up how to pronounce Castlemaine and that's what
Speaker 2: it came up as.
Speaker 1: Castle Maine. It's brittish.
Speaker 4: How can that work now? And it didn't work earlier?
Speaker 2: So I was only playing it so I could listen
Speaker 2: to it myself, and I didn't realize you guys could
Speaker 2: hear it. But just for the sake of those people
Speaker 2: who didn't hear it the first time, Castle.
Speaker 5: Maine, I.
Speaker 1: Think everyone, all right, that's enough now, Patrick, I think
Speaker 1: everyone in the world other than nausies pronounces it parcel Maine.
Speaker 1: I think all right, back on Bogan, Bogan Bergan, Like,
Speaker 1: what's hilarious is when posh person says bogan, So it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like crass anymore?
Speaker 5: And can you make it pronounce the sea word? That trick?
Speaker 1: No, no, tiff? When did you become me?
Speaker 5: Sounds so polite? I thought it might really soundly polite.
Speaker 4: But genuinely speaking, you don't want to see your does Craig?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Sorry you said the sea thing? I thought you meant craig.
Speaker 1: God, I'm fucking copying it today. What's a collective noun
Speaker 1: for bogan heard bogue? No, not the not the plural,
Speaker 1: the collective noun, I don't know. Like a flock, a flotilla,
Speaker 1: a murder, a gaggle of craigs, a gaggle of cra Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure it would be what about all right? Come on?
Speaker 1: Can we get back on this terrible?
Speaker 4: Are we scared about the Siri AI integration?
Speaker 2: Do you want your phone knowing everything and being able
Speaker 2: to do stuff without you even needing to ask it
Speaker 2: to tip?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a bit weird, isn't it. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Does that mean though? Being able to without being without
Speaker 1: asking it.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we spoke about this a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. When I recently had an update to Android
Speaker 2: Auto in my car using my Android phone, I had
Speaker 2: a whole lot of text messages come through from a
Speaker 2: single person. Because young people don't send one text, they
Speaker 2: don't do a paragraph, they do line by line by line.
Speaker 2: So a friend of mine sent me five text messages.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: So my car then responded and said, you've just received
Speaker 2: a whole lot of text messages from this person. Would
Speaker 2: you like me to summarize what the conversation was about?
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, that's great, Google, go for it.
Speaker 2: And it did. It summarized the whole thing, so rather
Speaker 2: than bombarding me with five different text messages, it just
Speaker 2: gave me the gist of what the conversation was about.
Speaker 2: So that's where AI is being employed, and it's great
Speaker 2: in the car, you don't want to be disturbed by
Speaker 2: a stack of text messages. So I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: one really simple example of potentially what.
Speaker 4: It could do.
Speaker 2: But I like the idea of a bogan translator or
Speaker 2: you know what about if someone stutters and has an accent,
Speaker 2: But those things actually do have a lot of and
Speaker 2: a lot of merit because it's going to make life
Speaker 2: a lot easier for people and more accessible. So it
Speaker 2: will make that text sery or you know, or whatever
Speaker 2: the android aut diversion is or android. So I kind
Speaker 2: of like the idea ish. I think Elon Musk is
Speaker 2: just doing the publicity stunt thing into.
Speaker 1: What if there was a Seri or there was AI
Speaker 1: that kind of had its own personality and some days
Speaker 1: it was just like having a bad day. It's like
Speaker 1: and you you know, you open it up and it goes,
Speaker 1: what fucking what now?
Speaker 2: But it'd be good if you could choose the mood
Speaker 2: for the day to match your move, so you know,
Speaker 2: the shitty mood, over the top nice mood.
Speaker 4: You could do the TIFFs, the Patrick and the Greg mood.
Speaker 1: What if you ask it a question and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's a fucking stupid question. Try harder, Like seriously, you're
Speaker 1: not asking me that, Like AI with attitude?
Speaker 4: Can I make an admission?
Speaker 2: So my identical twin brother, genetically identical to me, he
Speaker 2: rang me up and he was telling me about a
Speaker 2: tech problem that he had, and I got to the
Speaker 2: point where I thought, how could you be so stupid and.
Speaker 4: Not understand this because we're genetically identical.
Speaker 2: It's like, you don't understand it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because you've exposed yourself to a lot of
Speaker 1: training and education experience.
Speaker 4: I should have listened to that whole sentence, shouldn't I have?
Speaker 1: Well, you've you've got knowledge he hasn't. That's not about genetics.
Speaker 1: That's just about what you've learned versus what he's learned.
Speaker 2: It was pretty basically paste or something I don't know,
Speaker 2: with something simple if you rolled his eyes and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how, he doesn't do it anyway.
Speaker 4: All right, cybersecurity, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you have a business, a small business, a
Speaker 2: business of sorts.
Speaker 4: How CyberSecure are you?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 4: Reckon?
Speaker 1: I'm not the person to ask. I'm about as CyberSecure
Speaker 1: as a fucking box of clinics. That's out tough.
Speaker 4: Do you think it's relevant though?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm probably asking a really obvious question because
Speaker 2: if I know you've been through this whole debarcle and
Speaker 2: the stress of having to go through this yourself. But
Speaker 2: I think that well, there's a lot of warnings coming
Speaker 2: out now and we're talking this is like across the board.
Speaker 2: So this is from a government level, both in Australia
Speaker 2: and also overseas as well. The United States has when
Speaker 2: his cyber attacks were state driven. So what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is it's not just independent. You know, some Russian bloke
Speaker 2: sitting in his back shed trying to hack into your computer,
Speaker 2: but these a state sanctioned where certain states well, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of commonly known that China has a very
Speaker 2: active operation in hacking as well, so state sanctioned hacking.
Speaker 2: And I think more sixty percent of small business owners
Speaker 2: say that hackers are their biggest fear. This was according
Speaker 2: to the US Chamber of Commerce. But sixty percent is
Speaker 2: a massive amount. And you heard about the hack recently
Speaker 2: at the NHS in the UK. This only happened in
Speaker 2: the last fortnight, so happened wassh Yeah? Anyway, the National
Speaker 2: Health Service NHS was hacked into, but it was so
Speaker 2: bad that they ended up resorting to using paper for
Speaker 2: communications and people who were on waiting lists for surgery
Speaker 2: had to be put off. It impacted and potentially could
Speaker 2: have caused major problems for people who were needed urgent surgery.
Speaker 2: And it makes you realize how vulnerable potentially we could
Speaker 2: be whether it's public services, could be like our electricity supply, water,
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. So it kind of opens it up.
Speaker 2: And when you run a small business, because you tend
Speaker 2: not to have the infrastructure, you don't have somebody who's
Speaker 2: running your IT network, that kind of tends.
Speaker 4: To leave you more vulnerable as well.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's something certainly that I've thought about,
Speaker 2: but because I guess a little bit more tech savvy,
Speaker 2: I think about the security implications of what it means
Speaker 2: for the data that I store. But when you think
Speaker 2: about all the data that you've got crago, you know,
Speaker 2: your research at the moment, how are you protecting that research?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it is stored. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't do that bit, but I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know it's in a cupboard. I don't know a cyber cupboard.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Patrick, I can don't ask me. I
Speaker 1: know how to get into it and access it. It's
Speaker 1: not my job. I don't do security. But it's funny
Speaker 1: you asked, right, because I'm old. But then I think
Speaker 1: about with the rapid evolution of computing, you know, quantum computers,
Speaker 1: arriving next Wednesday, right, and the world is that like
Speaker 1: the way that we buy and sell and bank and
Speaker 1: you know, medicine and all of that. Like my dear
Speaker 1: old mum and dad. I look at them, and twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four is bewildering for my mum and dad. Like
Speaker 1: it just that and they're not dumb people, but it's
Speaker 1: just it's just I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the answer is because we can't stop technological advancement. But
Speaker 1: I feel so sorry. Like I went out two weekends
Speaker 1: ago with mum and dad and their friends. So there
Speaker 1: was like eight old people, I mean fucking old, fucking
Speaker 1: old as fuck, like Noah's friends, right, Jesus is fucking
Speaker 1: next door Nabors, right, and me and I was looking
Speaker 1: around the table and I was trying to explain to
Speaker 1: them what a podcast was, just something that simple. And
Speaker 1: I'm not at all being rude because they're fucking you know,
Speaker 1: in some ways they're way smarter than all of us, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I like, fuck and this is essentially you know,
Speaker 1: the best way you can explain it to them is
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a radio show that you can
Speaker 1: just listen to whenever you want, you know, but then
Speaker 1: more how do you how do you? Where is it
Speaker 1: on your phone? And then trying to go, well, so
Speaker 1: there's an app, and then that's like.
Speaker 4: Fuck, do they understand in streaming?
Speaker 1: Not not kind of, but you know, like none of
Speaker 1: them have Netflix, none of them have any of those platforms,
Speaker 1: and so I guess theoretically, but even when you explain
Speaker 1: to them something that for us and all of our listeners,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, how could somebody not understand that? It's
Speaker 1: a very different when you when you're trying to understand
Speaker 1: an eighty five year old person's worldview thinking through like TIFFs,
Speaker 1: you know, looking through TIFFs window, and she's probably more
Speaker 1: compassionate and understanding, but you know what I mean, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: of course this makes sense, but to them it makes
Speaker 1: no sense, you know, And I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think for me, that's something that I worry about
Speaker 1: for really old people like Mum is terrified of paying
Speaker 1: things electronically because she doesn't know what they're talking about,
Speaker 1: and the people at the bank or whatever or medicare
Speaker 1: they just talk to her like she's an idiot, because no,
Speaker 1: you just do this, And they talked to her quickly
Speaker 1: and dismissively, and she doesn't actually understand what it all means.
Speaker 1: Can I just say they worries me?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Can I just say too though? You do sometimes
Speaker 4: have a choice.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to particularly name any of the
Speaker 2: different banks, but you've got the Big four, and then
Speaker 2: there are other banks as well, and there are community banks,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's about voting with your feet.
Speaker 4: I recently had I live in a small town.
Speaker 2: We only had two banks in our town, and the
Speaker 2: big bank pulled out.
Speaker 4: One of the Big four pulled out of the township.
Speaker 2: So I pulled all of my money out of it
Speaker 2: and put it into the local community bank.
Speaker 4: I thought, you know what, bug you and I can walk.
Speaker 2: In there any time of day and I see them
Speaker 2: explaining things delicately, understanding they will talk them through you
Speaker 2: for older people, because generally it's older people who want
Speaker 2: to have that face to face. And I think that
Speaker 2: there's still ways to shop around, to ask around and
Speaker 2: not to get lumped in and be treated like that.
Speaker 4: So if you go to a telco provider, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of third party telco providers.
Speaker 2: Now, if you walk in and you're not satisfied, because
Speaker 2: you think you're being treated like a dummy, go somewhere else,
Speaker 2: vote with your feet.
Speaker 1: Everything you said makes sense to me. But if you
Speaker 1: said to my mum and dad go to a third
Speaker 1: party telco provider and vote with they'd be like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck do you mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the point we all get that my mum
Speaker 1: and dad do not understand anything you just said. So
Speaker 1: that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I You know, I was so excited by this.
Speaker 2: The FBI recently hacked some hackers. And there are different
Speaker 2: ways that hackers can get into your system. So, you know,
Speaker 2: you click on a link and then they skim the
Speaker 2: information they want to get your ID so they can
Speaker 2: pretend that they're you. But the other thing they can
Speaker 2: do is they use ransomware where they take all of
Speaker 2: your data, they lock it up, they encrypt it, and
Speaker 2: then they exploit that and say, well, if you want
Speaker 2: your data back, you've got to pay.
Speaker 4: Us X amount of dollars. Okay, so that's ransomware.
Speaker 2: But now the FBI, I've managed to get seven thousand
Speaker 2: key keys to ransomware and they're just giving them away
Speaker 2: for free. So if someone a business, an individual, whatever
Speaker 2: gets hacked and they have all their data locked up. Now,
Speaker 2: the FBI has acts seven thousand ransomware keys, which I
Speaker 2: thought was really good, so you can basically get access
Speaker 2: to your data without having this whole ransom situation over
Speaker 2: the top of you. So it's good to see that
Speaker 2: the good guys, that the white hat hackers.
Speaker 4: Are getting their way around some of the naughty people
Speaker 4: out there. Crago.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I like it that there are
Speaker 1: white hat hackers.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 1: I love that idea. I did see on the news
Speaker 1: on I don't know what channel it was, but and
Speaker 1: it looked a bit weird to me this week a
Speaker 1: robotic thumb that people were yes, so instead of having
Speaker 1: four digits and one thumb, they had four fingers and
Speaker 1: two thumbs on one. So they've now essentially got six
Speaker 1: fingers on one hand. I'm not sure that's necessary, but
Speaker 1: tell us about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, so this study showed that ninety eight percent of
Speaker 2: the people who took part in it were able to
Speaker 2: more successfully manipulate objects with a third thumb, and only
Speaker 2: thirteen people were unable to perform the task within the
Speaker 2: first minutes. So people put on this glove, it gives
Speaker 2: them an extra thumb, and within a minute, ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent were able to use it more effectively than their
Speaker 2: normal hand. So the dexterity was improved by having this augmentation,
Speaker 2: so it could be used in lots of areas. And
Speaker 2: they're saying that it's kind of like, you know, you're
Speaker 2: grasping ability, so the dexterity was increased as well. It's
Speaker 2: kind of really good. It's a robotic thumb. Would that
Speaker 2: be great, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1: Ah? I tell you who would love that? Mary for
Speaker 1: opening jars?
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, so you get the double thumbs up. How
Speaker 4: good's that?
Speaker 1: I'm not even lying when I was up there last Saturday,
Speaker 1: because I go every Saturday to take fucking hercules to
Speaker 1: the gym Ronnie mcgronstar, And yeah, Mary asked me to
Speaker 1: open multiple things because she was cooking, and you know
Speaker 1: she takes out the jars of whatever out of the
Speaker 1: fridge or the cupboard. I may as well just go
Speaker 1: up there to open jars every Saturday and then drive home.
Speaker 1: But if she had the robotic fucking thumb, she wouldn't
Speaker 1: need me. I'd become redundant.
Speaker 4: That's it, just a robotic thumb and that's all your work.
Speaker 1: What role does Craig play is essentially a robotic thumb.
Speaker 1: It comes at no cost.
Speaker 2: It must be pretty easy to use if people only
Speaker 2: took sixty seconds to be able to feel comfortable using it,
Speaker 2: because I would think that if you had a glove
Speaker 2: with an extra thumb pointing out, that would be weird.
Speaker 4: But evidently not.
Speaker 2: That says a lot about the user experience. If it's
Speaker 2: that easy to pick up and start working with, don't
Speaker 2: you reckon?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess I mean more, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe more importantly, like for people who like amputees who
Speaker 1: have had accidents or whatever, you think, what are the
Speaker 1: potential applications. There's a well known fuck. I think his
Speaker 1: name is Paul Gelder. It might be he is a
Speaker 1: guy who had one of his arms bitten off and
Speaker 1: or like his forearm and hand and one of his
Speaker 1: legs bitten off. Paul dig Gelder, Paul de Gelder, Thanks
Speaker 1: tiff In believe it or not. Patrick Sidney Harbor shark
Speaker 1: attack like like, imagine being fucking attacked by a shark
Speaker 1: and he was a navy diver, but he's got these
Speaker 1: motherfucker of a bionic end and he's jacked, like he's
Speaker 1: this bit strong, jacked athletic dude. And he's got a
Speaker 1: prosthetic bionic arm and hand and also a leg I think,
Speaker 1: or just a prosthetic leg. But yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the I think pretty soon we're going Look,
Speaker 1: this is just what I think. I could be wildly wrong,
Speaker 1: but I think we're going to see in the next
Speaker 1: decade we're going to see quadriplegics walking through, you know,
Speaker 1: with the stuff that they can now do with not
Speaker 1: only the spine and the nervous system, but also robotics
Speaker 1: and and you know, imagine, imagine people like our friend
Speaker 1: tif Joel SARTI imagine, fuck, how good would that be
Speaker 1: for him to be able to get to that point
Speaker 1: in time? And Yeah, I think it's exciting. I think
Speaker 1: for me, this is the well, one of the there's many,
Speaker 1: but one of the upsides Patrick of like this kind
Speaker 1: of genius that is coming online is that when we
Speaker 1: can do stuff like help people walk that would never
Speaker 1: have been able to walk, you know, for me, that's
Speaker 1: it's it's all all the negative is worth it if
Speaker 1: we can do things like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's lots of different trains of thought too.
Speaker 2: There's the exoskeleton where they basically have an exoskeleton around
Speaker 2: the non functioning limbs, the legs. Of course, you could
Speaker 2: then you know, match that up with say the brain implant,
Speaker 2: so you do it that way. But but I think
Speaker 2: we've spoken about this before as well, bypassing the injury
Speaker 2: to the spine where you yeah, an ability to actually
Speaker 2: have the nerve tissue connected and bypass the broken connection
Speaker 2: there and so potentially that.
Speaker 4: Could be as well. So I'm super exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you think about the muscles, like, for example,
Speaker 1: if somebody gets say a let's say between the shoulder blades,
Speaker 1: so the thoracic so at T five or six, right,
Speaker 1: and so they their arms work, but their legs don't work.
Speaker 1: But their legs actually work. It's just that there's no
Speaker 1: basically juice getting to the legs, you know. So as
Speaker 1: you said, like the actual muscles, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: the muscles, they're just not getting any neural connection for
Speaker 1: the brain to make the legs work. So yeah, if
Speaker 1: you could build a little kind of a neural bridge
Speaker 1: over that break so that that signal gets through, I mean,
Speaker 1: I reckon you and I could probably figure that out
Speaker 1: on a weekend. If we really put our minds.
Speaker 5: To it, can get the crab to build it.
Speaker 1: Exactly. I could conceptualize it. You know, I do work
Speaker 1: at Brain Park or I do research at Brain Park,
Speaker 1: So fuck, how hard can it be? I'm kidding everyone,
Speaker 1: Please don't send me hate emails.
Speaker 4: But I love through the door. They did, they not filter?
Speaker 4: People look like.
Speaker 1: I'm like the stupid mascot. You know, have AFL clubs
Speaker 1: have a mascot. I'm the Brain Park mascot. I just
Speaker 1: fucking walk around bumping into shit and people pat.
Speaker 5: Me Brain Park Labrador.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, the one who's pushing at the door that
Speaker 4: says Paul.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I just pushed my head against the door
Speaker 1: until someone hears me banging and then they let me in.
Speaker 1: It's sad, but like I love the pats and the food.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So talking about uplifting technology, this was I thought, this
Speaker 2: is a nice little segue. So the Chinese drone manufacturer
Speaker 2: Dji has for the first time ever flown a drone
Speaker 2: to the top of Everest up up to one of
Speaker 2: the base stations at Everest. Because the air is quite
Speaker 2: thin and it's hard to get the lift capacity. And
Speaker 2: what they're talking about is using the fly cart thirty
Speaker 2: to be able to fly up there. So we're talking
Speaker 2: six thousand meters six kilometers up and it was able to.
Speaker 4: Be able to deliver.
Speaker 2: Resources up to people at the top of Everest or
Speaker 2: up up that high. And because the big the problem
Speaker 2: there is the high winds, the sub zero temperatures, is
Speaker 2: a whole lot of factors that have meant that drones
Speaker 2: in the past haven't been able to get up there.
Speaker 2: But it also means that they can clean up all
Speaker 2: the crap that's on top of Everest as well. There's
Speaker 2: a whole lot of junk up there, a lot of
Speaker 2: well lots of stuff up there, so they can a
Speaker 2: whole lot of dead people and dead people yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: So the good thing is that they were able to
Speaker 2: do this. They did a round trip and they still
Speaker 2: had forty three percent battery power by the end of it,
Speaker 2: which is kind of cool. And what it will do though,
Speaker 2: is it's going to make it a lot safer two
Speaker 2: because they do clean up parts of Everest, And what
Speaker 2: it's going to mean is that for the sherpas and
Speaker 2: people who are trying to preserve the natural area they
Speaker 2: can stand in pulling these drones. I thought that was
Speaker 2: really kind of cool that they're doing that with the drones.
Speaker 2: I had a personal example last weekend. I think I
Speaker 2: told Tip about this. I do a bit of drone
Speaker 2: photography and one of my clients wanted me to go
Speaker 2: out and do some drone work just around some earth
Speaker 2: moving that they were doing. And I left the land
Speaker 2: and I was only driving forty five minutes and it
Speaker 2: was nice and still kind of nice day. And I
Speaker 2: get to the location and they're gusting winds of forty
Speaker 2: five kilometers an hour and at one point the drone
Speaker 2: that I've got can at top speed can go about
Speaker 2: seventy clicks, so it's fast. If you put it into
Speaker 2: sport mode, it's pretty fast. So I had it in
Speaker 2: sport mode and it was still going backwards. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was pretty full on. So I had to kind of
Speaker 2: fly closer to the ground and then move it to
Speaker 2: one location and then let the wind kind of push
Speaker 2: it at maximum speed.
Speaker 4: But that was kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: So when to fly all the way up, you know,
Speaker 2: to to that part of Everest and to you know,
Speaker 2: nineteen thousand six hundred and eighty five feet sounds more
Speaker 2: impressive than six thousand meters, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Well, six kilometers. The top of Everest is nearly nine kilometers,
Speaker 1: so that must be up to one of the base
Speaker 1: camps or one of the camp tours, but still six
Speaker 1: kilometers up in the air. Dude. Yeah, Like you think
Speaker 1: of a hundred story building that's one thousand feet usually
Speaker 1: because there's like ten foot a floor, so that that
Speaker 1: would be the equivalent of what did you say, how
Speaker 1: many thousand feet?
Speaker 4: Nineteen thousand feet?
Speaker 1: That'd be the equivalent of a nineteen hundred story building.
Speaker 1: That's fucking Hey, we needs jam. How can people find
Speaker 1: you my friend and come and you know, play with
Speaker 1: you and your drone? And also perhaps you need to
Speaker 1: organize the the wedding arrangements just so all of us
Speaker 1: can plan.
Speaker 2: Well. If someone wants to just chat about nerd stuff
Speaker 2: with me, I'm always happy to do that.
Speaker 4: And thank you Dale from Geelong.
Speaker 1: You get married if I'll pay for it.
Speaker 2: Ah, we want to go to Vegas, Tiff, Let's go
Speaker 2: to Vegas again.
Speaker 1: I'm not paying for your honey. If you want to
Speaker 1: get married, I.
Speaker 4: Pay for it. And we want to get married in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I will pay for your wedding up to a value
Speaker 1: of five thousand dollars. Has to be a legal wedding.
Speaker 4: You know this is being recorded, right you can't.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm happy if you actually really get married.
Speaker 1: I'll pay for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will go to Vegas and get married.
Speaker 1: And then you're not getting married in Vegas. You've got
Speaker 1: to get married here. We need a real wedding and
Speaker 1: it needs to be legal, and me and the typ
Speaker 1: folks are going to come along.
Speaker 5: My mom's going to be so happy.
Speaker 4: Only if you're the bride's maid.
Speaker 1: I'll be the flower girl. I'll do security. I'll fucking sing,
Speaker 1: don't worry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people can contact me going to websites now, dot com,
Speaker 2: todau because Genesis effects is too.
Speaker 4: Hard to spell. So you know, I created my.
Speaker 2: Business name before the internet was a thing, and so
Speaker 2: no one knows how to spell genesis effects, so I
Speaker 2: just kind of created websites now dot com today you
Speaker 2: is the alternative. I mean, we do a lot of websites,
Speaker 2: so I guess that's a good reason to have that,
Speaker 2: But it's just the easiest way to spell what we do.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we try and get too tricky with names.
Speaker 1: I think that I think your new name works best. Patrick,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Pa, thank you, thank you. I think this
Speaker 1: episode is going to be called Patrick and Tiff for
Speaker 1: getting married for sure,