1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: City and with her with Kate Ritchie podcast. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Hey it's Kate, and we are here for episode two 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: of the Educate podcast. Whereere well, where i am learning 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: all about Taylor Swift And I've got my two right 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: hand women, Jess and Lizzie, who seem to know way 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: more about this wonderful woman than I actually do. But 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm so intrigued. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Hi, ladies, Hi, I'm the swifty on the left and 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: you're the swifty on the right. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Correct, not politically, just is there a meaning in that? 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you speak like that, I'm thinking you guys 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: are saying the lyrics of so Yeah. 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 4: It was like in the text the other day, I 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 4: know when Jess said, I'm still at the restaurant and 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 4: I said, Jess, it's time to leave the restaurant. 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Which is a song just so you know, right Where 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: You Left Me is a bonus track on which album 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: was it, Lizzie Maybe Everymore? And she's talking about still 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: being in a restaurant where this relationship ended and she 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: can't move on. This new person has, you know, kids 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: and Christmas and everything, but she's still there in that 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: stuff spiritually. But I was saying, I'm a bit stuck 23 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: on one of Taylor's well what I believe to be 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: a relationship, and I feel like I'm still in the restaurant. 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Everyone's moved on to Travis and I'm struggling to get there. 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: But okay, well, when you guys chat with each other 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: like that, I feel incredibly left out. But that's and 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: thank you to everybody who sent us your or got 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: involved or your feedback from the first episode. 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun reading all the comics. 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Actually, we should do a big shout out to Gabby, 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: who I think listened to it twice just because she 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: was worried she missed some stuff. 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: Thanks Gabby, Thank you Gabby. 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Now I just want to do a little bit of 36 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: cute stuff because I don't know the real, all the 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: all the the deep details as yet, but I'm really 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: loving seeing Taylor Swift and of course Travis Kelsey out 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: and about. This is actually what our texts were about 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: over the weekend. I think it was Sunday night, first 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: official photos of them hand in hand date night, Like 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, even if you don't know either of these people, 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: it just looked like the date you wanted to be on. 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: And I don't really know who I wanted to be 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: on the date with Do I want to go and 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: hang out with Taylor Swift? Do I want Travis Kelsey 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: to be holding my hand as like the best dressed 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: man in New York? And then I found myself deep 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: diving into his fashion. Anyway, we'll get to that another time. 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: But he's apparently, like I mean, he's only come to 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: light for me recently, but he's a bit of a 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: style king himself and now has the perfect handbag in Taylor. 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: But what I was reading, I think it came from Dumois. 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Is that right? 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: Yeah? 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Now, gooding you? Yeah, okay, I'm getting it right, Yeah, 57 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: thank you so much. 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Please. 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: Of course, we've seen Taylor at the football games. Not 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: track side, Oh yeah, what do you say, Oh, pitch side? No, 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: field side, No, let's just say in the box. 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: In the box. 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: And she was in the player's box, I would imagine, 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: beside Travis's mum. And she was wearing the attire, so 65 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: she had the colors on the bright you know, she 66 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: had her signature red lips and then she had a 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: chief's jersey jacket. 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: On merch she was. 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Now it turns out the real deal merch, which is 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: it's the real deal merch is on its way. The 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: jacket she was wearing for the past two games belongs 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: to somebody else. But then somebody called Dumois and I 73 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: think they're called Fetch Fashion, you know store we can 74 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: get absolutely everything, And Travis's apparently gone in there and 75 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: has actually purchased vintage Chief's gear, had it wrapped, and 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: now all eyes will be on whether Taylor's going to 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: be wearing these kind of incredible pieces. They're not I'm 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: guessing they're not just what you buy from your average store. 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: So is it like a vintage store that stocks all 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: the different teams merch or something from maybe. 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: A few years ago. 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Jess, Jess, I haven't had to research that, and why 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: don't you have? Well, you have to wait for I 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: think it's October twenty two is the next Chiefs game. 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: Everyone will be waiting for Taylor to turn up, and 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: perhaps she'll be wearing the items that Fetch is saying 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: that Travis went in and bought over their their date weekend. 88 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: Which kind of brings us to this bit of news, 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: which I know we spoke about on the Fitzy Wiper 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: Krichie Show. There was that amazing story that came out 91 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: with someone saying that the reason that she went to 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: the Jets game was to hide the SEO Google searches 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: of her private jets, which is like, if you think 94 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: of Taylor Swift as a business, that is hilarious and 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: amazing to think that they would go to that length. 96 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: They've grabbed this. 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: As a pr opportunity to try and flush that so 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: dive people just to change what comes up on Google. 99 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Look over here. Yeah, she long goes does she have 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: the most emissions? Even though I'm pretty sure be mastermind. 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: It is giving mastermind Lizzie exactly, Kate, we will play 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: that song for you and you're gonna love it. 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 2: That was another reference. 104 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: The other one that. 105 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: Came out that I explained on the show was the 106 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five. So remember originally she had gone to 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: that concert back in twenty sixteen with her best friend 108 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: and sort of rumored flame at the time, Krli Kloss, 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: and they got quite close on the balcony. It looked 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 3: like they were kissing, and there were photos of them 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: that came out at the nineteen seventy five. 112 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Like they were kissing or they were well, look. 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: I've watched all the videos from a Mary angle hard 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: to say. 115 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: I just think there's obviously that night you can tell 117 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: she's had fun with her friends, probably been intoxicated, maybe 118 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: she did, regardless of. 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: She's gotten that close enough to make it look like that. 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: And then I think the next day she tweeted, or 121 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: a few days later as as my twenty fifth birthday 122 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: present from the media, I'd like you to stop accusing 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: all my friends of dating me, which is quite a 124 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: funny way to talk around what may or may not 125 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: have happened. And then, of course, in Dancing with Your 126 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: with Our Hands Tied, which is a wonderful song about 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: literally dancing holding someone close, a bit about a secret relationship, 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: that sort of thing, there's a line in there about 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: being twenty five years old. How was I to know? 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: So if you kind of unpack it a little bit 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: and look into it a little bit more closely, it 132 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: does a line that maybe there was something going on 133 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: there between Carly and Taylor. Between Carli and Taylor, which 134 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: is a big like that's a big sort of I 135 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: white say conspiracy, but a lot of. 136 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: People that would be a whole episode in itself. 137 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: That's what I'm that's what I wanted to ask you 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: do you think that Carly and Taylor? 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely dot it, but also I like 140 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: to look at Taylor's life through a que lence personally 141 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 3: because I am so To me, that makes the music 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: resonate a bit more, whereas I think other people might 143 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: view it differently, But for me that makes me connect 144 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: to the lyrics and looking at it through that kind 145 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: of frame. 146 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: So every song you listen to, you can kind of 147 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: get out of it what you need or if. 148 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: You exactly exactly what I feel like she might be presenting, 149 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: what do you think is not necessarily true? See, I 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know. 151 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: I had a really close friend in high school where 152 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: our friendship was almost like a relationship, and people would 153 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: often think that we were in a relationship. 154 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: Yes, but we weren't. 155 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: We were just it was just very electric and female 156 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: and you know, girl power vibes the whole way through. 157 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: But you know that didn't mean you No one needed 158 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: to label that as a relationship necessarily. 159 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is. 160 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Something that Taylor perhaps does or Taylor's team does regularly, 161 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: if there's something that may not necessarily align with who 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: she wants to present publicly. They then they push something 163 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: else out. 164 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: And this is what it comes down to. 165 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: So before Carly, the rumors are, if you are to 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: believe along those lines that she might like women, or 167 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: she might like men and women, or just as a 168 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: bit open, is that she dated actress Diana Agron, who 169 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: was in Glee. 170 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: She was one of she played Quinn. I think it 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: was you have to have a look. 172 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: I'll see if I can put a photo up for you, Kate, 173 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: and they hung out and had a very intense relationship 174 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: for like a year or so, and then almost it 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: was like a friendship breakup, like it just kind of 176 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: they stopped hanging out publicly, which is also what happened 177 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: with Taylor, and then she was kind of gone until 178 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: Taylor hosted SNEL like a few years ago, maybe two 179 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: years ago, and in the crowd or in through the 180 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: line of people to go into SNL was Diana and 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: people saw that she had this VIP pass on her 182 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: as well. So like, I can't believe this, it's coming back, 183 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: swift grown they call it. 184 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: She's there. What does this mean? They're trying to unpack things, 185 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: all old photos coming up. 186 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: We don't really know past except that she sings I 187 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: think False God and she's in the audience and someone 188 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: said she was like, you know, smiling at her, and that. 189 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: Sort of gone, oh well, that's just one of the songs. 190 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: I don't that doesn't have anything no particularly times everybody. 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 4: Thinks the song Diana is a song called Wonderland, which 192 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: is on nineteen eighty nine as a bonus track. 193 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: The reason that I want to bring this up, yeah, 194 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: is because we've now seen travis new partner. Supposedly they 195 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: are holding hands coming out of SNL with Taylor. They've 196 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: both done it on the same night he was in 197 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: a skit she introduced Ice Spice. They held hands coming 198 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: out of the SNL after party, So the same place 199 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: Diana was papted. 200 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: And now if you google Taylor. 201 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: Swift SNL, Diana's gone. It's now the photos of Travis. 202 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: Discuss Discuss, So you see what I mean. 203 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: There's a bit of a pattern of this erasing the 204 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: SEO search history, so you can no longer like obviously 205 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: if you dig twenty pages in you can find it. 206 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: But for all the new fans like you, for example, Kate, 207 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: who might just kind of hatch. 208 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: It up and work you mean who's like completely uneducated 209 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: and a little idiotic in the Taylors, we're educating. 210 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: But I know what you mean. 211 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be be doing I wouldn't be digging deep. 212 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: I would just be I would just be saying Taylor snl. Yeah, 213 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: And now I'm fed Travis looking amazing yap hand in hand. 214 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think the key thing to take 215 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: away here is if we ever google Fitzy Whipper, Kate 216 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: Richie Taylor Swift and she's come in for an interview, 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: and this podcast has been wiped from the Google searchers. 218 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh, Jess was on. 219 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: The money, confirmed and Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a 220 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: Nova podcast. 221 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: For more great comedy shows 222 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: Like this, head to novapodcast dot com dot au