1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Fox Crickets podcast 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: The Follow On. My name's Courtney Walsh and I'm delighted 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: to be joined by Australian great Mike Hussi. Seventy nine 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: tests and six two hundred and thirty five runs. It's 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot of runs, Mike. How are you going because 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: it feels like you've got a lot of runs on 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the your board through this summer with big bass duties 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: with the Tests. I think I saw you doing thousand 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: throwdowns and the nets in Perth leading up to the 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: opening tests of the Ashes. How are you carrying on 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: with all the runs under your board this summer? Yeah? 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Go today, Courtney. Thanks for having me on the podcast. Yeah. 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed the summer. I mean I've enjoyed most 14 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: of the summer. I really enjoyed the week leading up 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: with the Aussies before the first Test match in the nets. 16 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: It's watching them prepare and how they went about it. 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Obviously a great result for Australia with the four to 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: one Ashes winning of the Ashes so well, that was good. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: A little bit frustrated with some of the Test cricket 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: that was played, I mean two two day Test matches. 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: It's not what I was hoping for. You know, you're 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: hoping for five day classics and you know test matches 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: at the least last four days and you see some 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: really good, tough, hard test cricket, so you know, a 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: little bit of frustration there, but obviously some unbelievable performances 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: from from well from both teams really, but mainly from 27 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: the Australian players with Stark and Harry and Travis Head, 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Joe Root scored a couple of great hundreds 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: as well, which was great to see. So so some 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: really good cricket in amongst some frustrating sort of cricket 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: there as well. And then the Big Bash has been good. Yeah, 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: I've really enjoyed it coming into the business end of 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: the tournament now, so yeah, it sort of feels like 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 2: the sum was flying past at a rate of knights. 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: We might just get you quick refleshing. She talked about 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: the ashes, your highlights I talked about talked to Alan Gilchrist, 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: your fellow Western Australian and his For him, it was 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Alex Carey's performance and and how he continued to elevate. 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: He said, understandably, he's a keeper there's a there's clearly 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: a brethren through the gloveman. Kerry O'Keefe talked about how 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: he lamented, I suppose the lack of an off spinner, 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: but again off spinners and keepers keep you know, there's 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: a brotherhood there is it the same for batters? You know, 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: the batsmen have the same thing. Who was your highlight 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: or biggest success story of the Ashes? 46 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: It's a good question. I mean, I think for me 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Mitchell Stark he was the big highlight for me. He 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 2: was unbelievable to be able to bowl the first ball 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: the series of probably what mid one forties and then 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 2: bowl his last ball the series probably exactly the same 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: a how mid one forties, you know, pick up wickets, 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: you know, especially early in the series where he was 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: just so devastating, also scored some handy runs. I mean, 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: I think back to the Brisbane Test match where he 55 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: had that partnership with Scotti bowl and which was just 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: so crucial from a tactical sense for Australia to be 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: able to then bowl with a new pink ball sort 58 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: of that night time. I just think his whole series 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: and his longevity as a player. But you know, a 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: true testament to his physical abilities to be able to 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: get through the five Test matches, keep his standards and 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: his speeds that he's bowling up the whole time, coupled 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: in with you know a few handy scores with the 64 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: bat there, I just think he was far and away, 65 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: you know, a much deserving player of the series. I mean, 66 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I know Travis had it was incredible as well, 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: and Alex Carey, but for me, I was very happy 68 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: that Mitchell Stark was Player of the Series because I 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: think he fully deserved it, you know, with his performances 70 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: when you were. 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: In the nets and as I said, I remember watching 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: from from from Perth Stadium and there's a great vantage 73 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: pointing up there, and you see. I remember watching Mitchell 74 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Stark bowling in the nets and thinking how frightening it 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: looked because he just had he had the ball doing 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: all manner of things off that surface. I think you 77 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: had Jake Reather on at one stage and it just 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: it was alarming to watch how quickly it was bowling. 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: But when you're throwing doing your throw down s Eccessrick, 80 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: can you tell if a bat that is in good knick? 81 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Did you did you see that Mitch Stark. I don't 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: know if you've had any throwdowns to Mitch, but you thought, well, 83 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: he's actually middling it quite well here. 84 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Not really, I don't think I even threw to Mitch Stark. 85 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: I know he batted a little bit against some bowlers, 86 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: but I don't think I actual he threw to him. Yeah. 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean you can tell when a player is in 88 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: really good touch, and I think it generally comes from 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: how they're moving. You know, it is their footwork, crisp. 90 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: Are they defending well? You know that's often I know 91 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: that's not the modern way anymore. But if you see 92 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: a batsman getting in a really good position, defending the 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: ball right out of the middle of the bat and 94 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: it's really balanced, then I sort of go, oh, hang 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: on this, this this player is in you know, in 96 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: good these games, in good working order. So I think 97 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: that sort of, you know, is what sort of sort 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: of stands out when you know a player's you know, 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: playing really well. As far as Staki, I mean, he's 100 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: been around a long time. He knows his preparation from 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: a bowling sort of sense and also a batting sense, 102 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: you know, inside and out, and he just he just 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 2: looked like he just ticked off exactly what he needed 104 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: to do to be ready to go for that first 105 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: Ashes Test match in Perth. But I think the planning 106 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: probably started months, you know, in advance, maybe even up 107 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: to six months in advance. They would have just basically 108 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: mapped it all out, exactly what you're going to do, 109 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: exactly what you need to do from a physical sense, 110 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: from a game percents, like as in playing Sheffield Chield games, 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: how much cricket you want to get, how much rest 112 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: do you want to get? They would have mapped it 113 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: all out. And I think Starky has a really good 114 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: understanding of his preparation and what he needs to get 115 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: his body right and his mind right ready to go 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: for a massive series. It just seemed like he set 117 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: himself with this series, particularly with the ball, but obviously 118 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: some pretty handy runs there as well. 119 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: Well well, I mean, you know, part of the final 120 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Nash's series finishes, and then all of a sudden we're 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to twenty twenty seven, not that long away realistically, 122 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: eighteen months, and then twenty twenty nine with the next 123 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: Sashes tour, and you think, given how he's bowling and 124 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: he's disciplined in his dedication. Could you see him last 125 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: in the distance sort of three to forty? I guess 126 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: we had Jimmy Anderson still bowling very well at forty 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: one for England and arguably unlucky enough to be on 128 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: this tour. Is he the type of character that you 129 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: could see, you know, with that his physique, with his 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: ability to get through the durability someone like him bowling 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: through to twenty twenty nine third. 132 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: I can honestly see him doing it if he wants to, 133 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: if he's still mentally got the sort of strength to 134 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: keep going through that process of you know, planning it 135 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: all out, getting your physical preparation exactly perfect. But the 136 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: you know, the amount of sports science these days, and 137 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: how well you know the players look after themselves. I 138 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: mean they're so professional, and how they look after himself, 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: Like I believe Starky did not touch even a sip 140 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: of alcohol throughout the whole series. You know that would 141 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: never have happened fifty years ago, you know, So just 142 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: the way he knows his body, he knows his preparation, 143 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: and he knows what he needs to do to get 144 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: himself ready to play. If he's still mentally got that 145 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: drive to want to keep doing it, then I see 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: there's no reason why he can't. It's just comes to 147 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: a stage when you get to the end of your career. 148 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: It's just a case of like that mental side of 149 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: things saying, you know, I don't really want to do 150 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: this anymore. I don't have to do this anymore. But 151 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: as much as I said he really set himself for 152 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: this series just gone, you know, will he still have 153 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: that same motivation to set himself to go again in 154 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. I don't know. Time will tell, but 155 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: if he does set his mind to it, then no 156 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: doubt whatsoever that he'll be able to do it. 157 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: News never stops cricket never stops discussion. This week England 158 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: obviously went back and I guess after an ashes there's 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: always a review, the winners and losers. I'm sure we 160 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: both go through what worked and what didn't. Pink Ball 161 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: and the future of pink ball tests has popped up. 162 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: The one hundred and fiftieth anniversary next March at the 163 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: MCG is a pink ball test. It's a special one 164 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: off between Australia and England to celebrate the Great Game 165 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: and the birth of Test cricket. I guess all those 166 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: years ago and also twenty twenty nine England has said 167 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to play a pink ball test. That's 168 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: one of the messages coming out. Steve Smith wasn't overly committity. 169 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: He didn't seem too worried about that prospect of not 170 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: being a pink ball Test. I guess if he's making runs, 171 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: he's happy to make runs wherever. 172 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts. 173 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I suppose it's placed in cricket and that Brisbane Test 174 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: was a great test. We touched on Joe Route. It 175 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: was a really lovely test. Michael Lisa was successful. Where 176 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: do you think it's sort of sits pink ball cricket 177 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: and in the landscape of the sport. 178 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really interesting question and a good question. 179 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: I think from my point of view, if you had 180 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: have asked me probably five, six, seven years ago, I 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: would have been not that sort of keen on pink 182 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: ball cricket. I'm very much a traditionalist, love the red 183 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: ball game, but I must admit I feel as though 184 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: I've changed my tune a little bit. I feel as 185 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: though the pinkball game has added a lot to test 186 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: cricket in that the tactics that come into play are 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: fascinating and I think Australia, I think they'd be pretty 188 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: happy to keep playing pink ball Test matches because their 189 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: record in those games is unbelievable. So I can understand 190 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 2: what England are saying, no, we don't want to play 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: when in Australia, because if you look at Australia's record 192 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: in Australia with pinkball games, they're almost unbeatable. But I 193 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: just love that the way that players have to adapt 194 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: to the different phases of the day and night. And 195 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: this is where I think Australia were absolutely spot on 196 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: from a strategic point of view in that Test match 197 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: in Brisbane, the day night Test. I mentioned it earlier 198 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: with Mitchell Stark and Scottie Bowl and you know, batting 199 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: that long period of time, they didn't care about really 200 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: how many runs they scored. It was all about the 201 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: time to make sure that they could bowl that new 202 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: pink ball underlights and that puts a batters under a 203 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: lot more pressure. The ball does a lot more those 204 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: at those times. Similarly, batsmen need to change the way 205 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: they play. You know that you can be a little 206 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: bit more sort of aggressive during the day session and 207 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: then twilight gets a little bit tricky. But then if 208 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: you're facing a new ball, it can be hard under lights, 209 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: or you know, if you've got an old ball under lights, 210 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: it's maybe not too bad. So I love the way 211 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: that teams sometimes they might declare a little bit earlier 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: than they think so they can get access to that 213 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: new ball under light. So I love there's a little 214 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: bit of strategy involved. I love watching players having to 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: adapt between the different phases of the day and the 216 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: night and so and plus you know, particularly the games 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: in Adelaide, I think they've been amazing spectacles as well. 218 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Just watching on TV or being at the ground watching 219 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: the sunset, the crowd still there. It's pretty amazing to 220 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: watch some of the shots you see from the TV 221 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: cameras is phenomenal. So I think being the traditionalist, if 222 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: you had asked me sort of ten years ago, I 223 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: was against it. But I feel like I've changed my 224 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: tune now and I feel like it's certainly office test 225 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: cricket a lot. 226 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: It is one of the most glorious sites. When you 227 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: see that sort of that a light over it's spectacular. Sure, 228 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: it is speaking of good sites or interesting sites, we 229 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: talk about the future of Australian cricket. Oli Peak goes 230 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: off to captain Australia in the end of NINETEENES he 231 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: was the youngest underlying World Cup. Beginning tomorrow Australia plays 232 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: their first match. It's in Africa. He was the youngest 233 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: member of the team that won it two years ago. 234 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Now he's the captain and he's been you know, clearly 235 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: had some really good success so far in the BBL 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: and also shown some good signs for Victoria. When you 237 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: talk about those sort of tournaments, underage tournaments, how important 238 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: are they for the pathway? And who are a few 239 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: of the youngsters, be it Ollie or even those who 240 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: have graduated like Marley Beardman who clearly has some talent 241 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: in the West or a Callum Vidler, who are some 242 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: of the younger crickets you'll keeping an eye on with 243 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: a view of the future in Australia. 244 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good question. Well, first of all, I think 245 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: the under nineteen sort of tournaments and you know, whether 246 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: it's a World Cup or just even playing against another country, 247 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: it's a fantastic opportunity. I mean, I was very lucky 248 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: enough to play Underninning cricket against India a long, long, 249 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: long time ago now, but we had eight weeks in India. 250 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: We played sort of youth test matches, youth ODI matches. 251 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: The life experience you get is just out of this world. 252 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: I'd never really been out of it. I'd never been 253 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: out of Australia before, so to go to India was 254 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: one of the best experiences of my life. I mean 255 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: it was tough and really hard cricket, but just to 256 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: experience how another country sort of goes about their cricket, 257 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, meeting some new players that are going to 258 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: come through and you're going to you know, hopefully play 259 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: against him in the future. So we had vvs. Laxman 260 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: playing for India at that sort of stage, and I 261 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: don't think we got him out for eight weeks. So 262 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: that was, you know, a pretty challenge in itself exactly. 263 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: But to be able to play in India, to play 264 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: with guys like Brett Lee and Jason Gillespie Andrew Simon's 265 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: were in our sort of team as well, you know, 266 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: just to sort of see how they go about it, 267 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: to play in foreign conditions, it was just so good 268 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: for your education as a cricketer, but also as a 269 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: life experience. To be able to experience, you know, conditions 270 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: so foreign to what we're used to in Australia was 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: just fantastic. So and plus it's it's hugely motivational because 272 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: you sort of think, wow, you're in the Australian under 273 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: nineteen team representing your country. That's like, you know, a 274 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: pretty special milestone. And I remember feeling like really toughed 275 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: for you know, And so I think it's a it's 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: a really important part of the pathway. It is sort 277 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: of reward for you know, identification of some some you know, 278 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: good young talent and good performances coming through that pathway stuff. 279 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: So I think you know, for Oli Peek and his 280 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: teammates over there, now, I think they've got a wonderful 281 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: opportunity to one play in a World Cup represent Australia 282 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: at und nineteen level, also get to have a look 283 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: at probably some of the other great talent from all 284 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: the other countries around the world India, England, South Africa, 285 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: West Indies, you know who was coming through, and then 286 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: you know you're obviously going to see the stars of 287 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: the future for all those countries come through as well eventually, 288 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: So I think it's you know, a great opportunity for them. 289 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: I mean, someone you know, like Mitch marsh stands out 290 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 2: to me. He was captain of the Australian under nineteen 291 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: team they won a World Cup in New Zealand and 292 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: you know, you know, all the families were over there 293 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: and and and you know we've been able to watch 294 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: sort of Mitch Marsha's sort of career has sort of 295 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: come through. You mentioned, you know, Marley Beardman coming through 296 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: now in Western Australia. We've had Simon Budge in wa 297 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: as well, who you know, so you know it's coming through, 298 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, developing nicely as well. I mean, it's not 299 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: a the thing that these young guys, you know, and 300 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll know we'll need to sort of take 301 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: care of, is that it's not a linear you know, 302 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: you know, things straight into the Australian Test team or 303 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: you know, the Australian One Day team. It doesn't always 304 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: happen like that. It'll be different pace for different guys. 305 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: Some guys won't make it at all. I mean there 306 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: was lots of guys you know in my in my 307 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: year of the Australian nineteen team that didn't even play 308 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: first class cricket for their state, you know, or may 309 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: have played a handful of first class games but weren't 310 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: able to go on and play for Australia and then 311 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: obviously a handful that we're able to. So it's no guarantee. 312 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: And that's why I think, you know, for these young guys, 313 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: just to like experience the now, enjoy this World Cup, 314 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: enjoy playing for Australia under nineteen level, because you don't 315 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen in the future. Yes, we 316 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: hope that a lot of them come through and are 317 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: the next generation, the next stars for Australia, but there's 318 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: certainly no guarantee and some won't. You know that that's 319 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: that's just reality. So I just want them just to 320 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: really enjoy the now, enjoy the World Clup, enjoy that 321 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: you know what that World Cup will sort of that 322 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: experience will give them. 323 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: I guess there's another World Cup just around the corner 324 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: as well. Australia goes off to India and Sri Lanka 325 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: for the T twenty World Cup. We won it the 326 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: last time in Dubai in twenty twenty one. Didn't make 327 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the semis the last time around in the Caribbean and 328 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: where Cindy's you know, there's some challenges there. What are 329 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: the challenges ahead for that team mate hat trick? Is 330 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it to navigate a month long World Cup on the subcontinent? 331 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: And what have you seen in our Australian team? I 332 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: guess it looks like a lot of sort of all 333 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: round talents there. Look like can bat really deep if 334 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: they want. There's a few different spinning options. How have 335 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: you assessed that challenge and what Australia is preparing to do. 336 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean traveling to the subcontinent for any cricket 337 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: let alone a World Cup is always really challenging. You know, 338 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: the conditions are very foreign to what we're used to 339 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: playing here in Australia. But what I would say is 340 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: that the but the squad they've picked does have a 341 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: fair bit of experience of playing in Indian and Sri 342 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: Lankan conditions, so that's got to be a positive. There's 343 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: a lot of power in that batting order that goes 344 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: all the way down, so you know, if they get going, 345 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: they're going to be extremely hard to stop. I guess 346 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: for me, is you know that. I'm sure the challenges 347 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: they'll have is when teams start to take the pace 348 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: off bowl lots of spin to them, if the conditions 349 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: are a bit slow and turning, then that that's going 350 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: to prove challenging again just because it's not what we 351 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: feel comfortable and we feel more comfortable in conditions with 352 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: the pace on the ball. There's plenty of bouts, true 353 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: true pictures which you will get a lot of in 354 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: India anyway, and so that that is definitely a positive 355 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: for Australia. But if the pitchers are slow and turning 356 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: and things like that, that's when they're going to have 357 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: to use a bit of Now, so you can't just 358 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: use brute force and power to be able to blast 359 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: you away out of that situation. Maybe a couple might, 360 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: but not everyone will be able to, so so that'll 361 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: be the challenge for the batting group. I think the 362 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: bowling group still looks really good. I mean hoping Hazewood 363 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: sort of comes through his injury concerns okay, because his 364 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: experience will be important, especially now with no Mitchell Stark. 365 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: I think that's a huge loss, you know, from the 366 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 2: biling side of things, because he's so good because he 367 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: can boil up front with the new ball and swing 368 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: the new ball into and have early new ball impact. 369 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: But he's also got so good sort of at the 370 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: back end with his yorkers and those inswinging yorkers that 371 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: he gets. So I think that's going to be hard 372 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: to cover. There is there is plenty of quality there though, 373 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: and and so I'm confident they'll be able to cover 374 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: that that sort of lost pretty pretty well. Nathan Ellis 375 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: has been doing a really good job for Australia over 376 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: the last few years, you know, so hopefully he can 377 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: have a great tournament. Obviously, Pat Cummins has been just 378 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: nursed really through the ashes to make sure that he's 379 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: ready to go for the World Cup as well, so 380 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: he'll be really important. And then I think Zampas could 381 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: probably going to play a really important role, you know. 382 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: Obviously he's been the our premier sort of spinner in 383 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: white ball cricket for a number of years now. But 384 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: I think for Australia to win the World Cup, he's 385 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: going to have to have a really big tournament. And 386 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: I think maybe one to watch could be Cooper Connelly. 387 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: I think he can actually play a really big role 388 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: given an opportunity, whether he gets the chance, whether it 389 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: can force his way into that eleven. That's going to 390 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: be the really interesting one for me. And the reason 391 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: why I say that, I feel like he can have 392 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: a big impact because he's obviously a good batsman, but 393 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: I feel like he's left arm spins quite underrated, and 394 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: if he can get that left arm spin into the game, 395 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, it can be effective in 396 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Indian conditions and. 397 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: Working in tandem with Sampra or whoever else through that, 398 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: I suppose that bowling attack through the twenty overns so 399 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: very interesting. You talked about Mitch marsh and I know 400 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: you know him well and remember talking after the twenty 401 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: twenty three World Cup about what happened there, what I 402 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: loved watching from Afar through the through the tour of 403 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: the Caribbean and the top end tours against South Africa 404 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: evening in Ceit Zealanders. After those matches he would be interviewed. 405 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: He seemed very very genially. He talked about the part 406 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: of the reason we're having success in that format since 407 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: that World Cup is enjoying it his leadership. What does 408 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: MITCHI bring in terms of that captaincy to the short 409 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: form format. 410 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you've probably summed it up pretty 411 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: well there. It's about enjoying, having fun, being relaxed. He's 412 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: not like I think he sort of thrives in an 413 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: environment that is not too intense and too stressed and 414 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: too much pressure. He feels like the environments that are relaxed, enjoyable, 415 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: almost a bit of freedom to show your talents. That's 416 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: when you can play your best cricket. And I think 417 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: that's what he's trying to impress. And his style of 418 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: leadership on the group is I want you to be yourself. 419 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: I want you to go out there and yeah, show 420 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: us how good you can be. Don't overthink it too much, 421 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: don't get too stressed, don't put the shackles on. Let's 422 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: let's break those shackles and and go for it. And 423 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: and you know, I guess there's a lot of positives 424 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: with that, no question. I guess the challenge with that 425 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: is if a couple of things don't quite go right, 426 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 2: and have they still got the courage to keep that 427 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: sort of it's not a care free attitude, but it's 428 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: it's a bit like that where you know, you know, 429 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: don't don't analyze things too much, you know, don't overthink things. 430 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: Just just keep keep keep a clear mind, keep it free, 431 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: and things will work out okay in the end. Yeah, 432 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: So that that's all great when things are going well, 433 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: if things aren't quite going to plan, can you know, 434 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: have they still got the courage to keep that sort 435 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: of mindset, which obviously is the way mich marsh wants 436 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: to run that team. So yeah, I know they're quite 437 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: lucky in the fact they've got you know, a very 438 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: strategic and analytical mind of Andrew McDonald working in the 439 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: background as well, so he'll do a lot of the 440 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: analysis work and the strategical preparation of the team and 441 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: then allow Mitch to go out there and and sort 442 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: of lead in that more. I don't like to use 443 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: the word care free attitude, but it's kind of like that, 444 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: a more sort of relaxed and enjoyable sort of mindset really, 445 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: and their form is good. 446 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm mindful, you've got to get to some commentary 447 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: duty to so I might just hit you up with 448 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: the last couple of queries. Alici Healy she retires well 449 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: a necessary retirement from cricket this week she'll play her 450 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: last match for Australia in a Test match at the Whacker, 451 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: which you know, I'm sure is a ground that holds 452 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: great memories for you, Diddy your heart against India. Her 453 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: legacy is a cricketer, but also just rave reviews of 454 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: her in the commentary box over the last sort of 455 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: summer her analysis. Can you offer a perspective of both 456 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: of those things and how tricky it is to make 457 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: that leap from from great cricketer, champion cricketer to offering 458 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: advice trying to take viewers inside what's happening in cricket match. 459 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: Is that the challenge in itself? 460 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I remember when I first sort of 461 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: trying to make that transition into the combox that you 462 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: pretty much just get thrown in there and you go 463 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: and you say, well, how does this all work? You know? 464 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: What do I talk? What do I You'll figure it out, 465 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: don't don't worry about it, you know. But Alisa has 466 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: just fitted in, you know, like like like a glove. Really, 467 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: she's just cruised in. I think she's just got a 468 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: great personality for it, and I think it's it's it's 469 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: testament to her character she's she's just a good person. 470 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: She can have a laugh, she can take the mickey 471 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: out of herself. She she does understand the game really 472 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: well and so she can give a really good, like 473 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: a lot of good analysis. She's very articulate in getting 474 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: her message across as well. So I think she's the 475 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: perfect package really to make that transition into into the 476 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: sort of commentary box and and sort of all those 477 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: attributes there you can see why she's been such a 478 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: great player on the field as well. You know, she's 479 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: she's obviously got a lot of talent. She she knows 480 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: the game extremely well. She works hard on the game. 481 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: She she can have a laugh because that you need 482 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: to have a laugh sometimes at this game because it 483 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: just brings you back down to earth and smacks you 484 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: in the face sometimes. So she seems like she's got 485 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: a great level head on her like as in, nothing 486 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: phases her too much, and I think that served her 487 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: well for out her playing career. You talk about, you know, 488 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: her playing legacy, it's going to be massive. I mean, 489 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: she has been a huge part of arguably the most 490 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: successful Australian cricket team of all time. The amount of 491 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: World Cups they've won, the amount of success they've had, 492 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: the amount of games they've won, it's incredible. And I know, 493 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: I know there's other players in the team as well, 494 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: but she's been a you know, one of the four 495 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: or five core key players over well, I don't know 496 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: how long is it over a decade? 497 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? 498 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I think you know that that's 499 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: probably what her legacy is going to be, what one 500 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: is a great player but also been part of arguably 501 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: you know, out one of our greatest teams of all time, 502 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: you know. So yeah, so I just feel like with 503 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: all those ingredients of her playing days moving into the 504 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: transitioning of the combox, it's going to be pretty smooth 505 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: for her because, yeah, she's just a great person and 506 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: has a great insight into the game. She knows the 507 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: modern game really well, and so I think she's going 508 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: to be fantasy. She's already been fantastic, you know, working 509 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: with her. She's just fit in really really nicely, and 510 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: that can't be easy, you know, coming in as a 511 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: as a woman into a male dominated sort of environment. 512 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: I know, we've got Isha gur in there as well, 513 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: and Mel Jones has been fantastic as well. But you know, 514 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: there's not It's not It can't be that easy. And 515 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: I just think she's just done it with ease. 516 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of doing it with ease, it doesn't seem like 517 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: anyone in this BBL is doing it with these It 518 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: seems like it's been a great competition. So even I 519 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: know you're in Melbourne tonight to commentate the Renegades an 520 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: early flight across from Perth, it's all up in the 521 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: air with a couple of matches to go. What have 522 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: you made of it? How excited have you been? The 523 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: crowds look great, the atmosphere has been coming from Melbourne. 524 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: There've been some down crowds in recent years, but it 525 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: seems like it's bounced back big time. And in Perth 526 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: they're always great that Brisbane Heat can do as a 527 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: miracle escape last night against Hobart. What have you made 528 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: in the all and what are you looking forward to 529 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: through the remainder of the competition. 530 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: It's been such a topsy turvy competition and some amazing games. 531 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: I mean, looking at I thought, oh, well, these are 532 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: the four best teams. These other teams aren't very good, 533 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: and then suddenly, out of nowhere a team will put 534 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: in this performance out of nowhere, or one of the 535 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: top teams will start faltering. You think about the Melbourne Stars. 536 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: You thought, oh, they're never going to lose a game, 537 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: and suddenly they lose three in a row and you're thinking, oh, 538 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 2: hang on a secon, they might miss the finals. Here 539 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: the Perce Scorches. You look at their batting order. I 540 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: think that their top seven is arguably the best top 541 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: seven in the world for T twenty cricket. Yes, but 542 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: they had two or three games in there where they 543 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: batted really poorly, and you think, how does this happen. 544 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 2: Hobart Hurricanes, you know they seem to still be bubbling along, okay, 545 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: but you lose Tim David. You know, oh, hang on 546 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: a second, that that's a big player coming out of 547 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: their team. They lose a game last night against the 548 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: Brisbane Heat, which they should never have lost, and suddenly 549 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: they're under a little bit of pressure. The Brisbane Heat 550 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: of the team that probably intrigued me the most because 551 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: I sort of looked at their team and I thought, oh, 552 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about them. Then I commentated the game 553 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: when they chase down two hundred and fifty seven against 554 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: the Scorches, in incredible fashion, and you think, well, hang 555 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: on a second, is there something about this team that 556 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: we're not quite seeing here. They just seem to find 557 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: a way to win at home when they shouldn't really win. 558 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: Then you throw back in, you get Nissa back, you 559 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: get Kowaji back, you get Lavishane back. You think, well, 560 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: hang on a second, they're a team that you can 561 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: actually do some damage. The Sydney Six and the sort 562 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: of bubble up and down, up and down, and you think, well, 563 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: hang on, They've got Steve Smith coming back and Mitchell 564 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: Start coming back. They're going to be a serious team 565 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: as well. So I'm still I've still got a feeling 566 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: about the Melbourne Stars. I feel as though they've got 567 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: enough quality there, enough experience to go all the way 568 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: and win their first title. There's a bit of a 569 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: feeling about them, but I mean there's some boy good 570 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 2: other teams that are going to be challenging them all 571 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: the way to the end. You know, the Scorches look 572 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: really strong. Hobart, they're definitely going to be there or 573 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: there are about six is where you can never write 574 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: them my goth and Brisbonite. You know, we've seen it 575 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: in the past. They've had late runs to go all 576 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: the way through to finals and win finals from nowhere really, 577 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: so I still feel like it's pretty open, you know, 578 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: especially in that top four or five places. 579 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: An intriguing finish. I think the Stars sitting second, so 580 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: it's all all to be played for over the next 581 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I'll say thank you so much for 582 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: joining the follow on Mike. It's always an absolute pleasure 583 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: to have you on in great coverage through the summer. 584 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. 585 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: No worries, mate, Thanks for having me. I really enjoyed it. 586 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: Happy to talk cricket anytime.