1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whipper with Cake Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if I should do this this morning 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: because the amount of rain that we've had over the weekend, 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 2: the rain that we're having this week. Everyone's a bit 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: down on a Monday morning. But I just feel like 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: I'm rubbing salt into the womb. 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: What are you going to break it down even further? 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: I read a story yesterday. 9 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: You can ask doctor Zach on news dot com dot au, 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: a weekly column that he has. 11 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: You can ask him anything. 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: And someone's written, doctor Zach ah still enjoying my democracy 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: sausage that I had at the federal election here, and 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: I'd love to know a little bit more about the sausage. 15 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Can you tell me about their ingredients and are they 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: good for you? And we all know snags aren't. But 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: oh my god, he's opened up a can of. 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: Worms here, doctor Zach what's he going on about? 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 4: So? 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: Back in twenty fifteen, he said the World Health Organization 21 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: classified process meets, including sausages as the main one, as 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: very very risky that could let to cancer. It's basically 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: the Frankenstein of meats, heavily processed, full of additives and 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: not exactly what nature intended. So the biggest concern that 25 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 2: they have because it's snags have seventy two percent meat, right, 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: so you'll have a bit of chicken and lamb and. 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: That in there. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Then it's all the other stuff that they do in there, 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: the process and the chemicals. 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what have we got petroleum? 32 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Well, the biggest concern is nitrates and nitrites, commonly used 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: in process meats to enhance flavor and preserve shelf life. 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: When exposed to high heat, hello, barbecue, they can form 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: nitrousimins and carcinogenic and so that leads to your cancer. 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: So studies have shown like, if that's in your system 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: and you're having snags every day, you could be in 38 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: a fair bit of trouble. This is the other one 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: that blows my mind. He even said small daily habits 40 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: like ham. If you have two slices of ham every 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: day in your sandwich, that can increase increase your risk 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: of bow cancer by eighteen percent. 43 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, My wife is completely across this. 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: In fact, this article could be written by her because 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: she shouts this from the rooftop. And we no longer 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: have any ham. We don't have any process meats. 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: I thought ham was good. 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: No it's not. 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: Because it's it's aged and it's the way it's processed. 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. What's the difference between ham 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: and then having a. 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: Steak, Because if I go and have a sandwich at 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: the sandwich shop, I think I'm doing the right thing 54 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: by putting ham with my salad. 55 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: But chickens the best. 56 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: And then sometimes we have turkey, which apparently is okay, 57 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: you're all right to have some of your shaved turkey, 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: But as sausage, I reckon the worst you can get. 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Fits are those little frangers, those little boys. 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: Those you know, those red ones. What do you call them? 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: What are the tail conducts? If you're snacking on those little. 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: Fragers, I don't think they're called they called little fragers? 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: No they're not. No mate, can we get some frager's dad? 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: No frangs? 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: A What are you calling fragers? 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: No bangers? 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: You're probably thinking little bangers, aren't you. No, when nags 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: are called little bangers. 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: And when you look at the actual inside of the minner, 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: when the skin can come back a bit, you're lining 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: of the sausage and you look at what it actually is. 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to think about how it's made. 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: That's why I would argue Fitz. If you were going 74 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: to buy a standard hot dog right compared to a good, 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: especially a thick beef sausage from the gourmet butcher, then 76 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: you're okay, aren't you like your gourmet sausage? I would 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: have thought you're ninety five percent beef. 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 4: A little bit of water, a little bit of oil, 79 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 4: a little bit of salt on the barbecue. 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: All the same, mate, It's all the same beef. See, 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: bacon's the same as well, bacon ham. 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: This is all. This is been well. The World Health 83 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: Organization has put it up there. 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: It's the same risk category as smoking and asbestos if 85 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: you're having it all the time. 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So I could say, do you want a salami sandwich 87 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: or a cigarette? Same thing? 88 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Do you know what? 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: And that's terrible news for salami lovers like I love salami. 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: A salami in a sandwich, white bread, thick butter, tomato, sauce, 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: toasted sea you in heaven, toileted toasted, a toasted. 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Met worst or or a type of worst with cheese 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: in a toasted sandwich. 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Cold sausage the next day in a sandwich do you 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean? That is just salami aside, cold 96 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: fresh thick beef sausage, fine, thinly sliced tomato sauce. 97 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: Mate. 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: They're saying that it's still okay every now and then, 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: but just don't look that it's spun me out with 100 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: the ham. And if you're having a snag every day 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: right in your leftovers, you've got to watch yourself. 102 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: Eighteen percent more chance of getting bowcans. 103 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, luckily the elections don't come around too often, 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: so we don't have to have the democracy. 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: Snag Sits In. 106 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast to walk 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: great shows like this. 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: Download the Nova 109 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Player via the app store or Google playing the