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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christinamiot.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, January twenty two. Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi convened

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Speaker 1: a national cabinet to tackle anti Semitism on Tuesday after

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Speaker 1: a childcare center near an Eastern Sydney synagogue was targeted

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Speaker 1: in an attack. It's an about faced by the PM

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Speaker 1: whose resisted calls for the meeting for weeks. Green's leader

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Speaker 1: Adam Bandt has unveiled a major part of the party's

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Speaker 1: election campaign. He's pledged to help parents of kids enrolled

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Speaker 1: in public schools with back to school costs. You can

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Speaker 1: read those stories right now at the Australian dot com

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Speaker 1: dot au. Donald Trump has been sworn in as the

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Speaker 1: forty seventh president of the United States, promising Americans they're

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Speaker 1: entering a new golden age of the country. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: we unpack what we can expect from Trump's second term

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Speaker 1: and who is bringing along for the ride. Let me

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Speaker 1: take you back to the late eighteen hundreds, when US

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Speaker 1: President elect Grover Cleveland pulled off a never before seen

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Speaker 1: political feat. After serving just one term, the incumbent lost

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Speaker 1: to the Republican Benjamin Harrison. Four years later, Cleveland was

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Speaker 1: back in office, making him the first president to serve

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Speaker 1: non consecutive terms. It was a record unmatched until Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: when Donald J. Trump was sworn in as the forty

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Speaker 1: seventh President of the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Donald John Trump too solemnly swear that I will faithfully

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Speaker 3: execute the office of President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: But Grover Cleveland was a lifelong politician. Before running for president,

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Speaker 1: He served as mayor of Buffalo and New York governor.

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Speaker 1: In contrast, Donald Trump's only qualification for the presidency is

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Speaker 1: having done it once before.

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Speaker 2: The most extraordinary thing about this inauguration really is that

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Speaker 2: it crowns easily the most spectacular political comeback in living

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Speaker 2: memory in America.

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Speaker 1: Cameron Stewart is the Australian's chief international correspondent.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in November twenty twenty two, when Trump first

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Speaker 2: threw sat into the ring to get a second term

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Speaker 2: at the presidency, no one gave him a chance, and

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Speaker 2: what happened is absolutely extraordinary. He portrayed America really as

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Speaker 2: a paradise lost and portrayed himself very much as the

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Speaker 2: savior to that problem. He went through his agenda in

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Speaker 2: a way like he does on campaign speeches, and he

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Speaker 2: laid out a very ambitious agenda, and I think what

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Speaker 2: you'll see is a very activist Donald Trump for his

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Speaker 2: second term. He was activist in his first term. But

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Speaker 2: I think the difference here is that he is much

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Speaker 2: wiser as to the ways of Washington, how power works

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Speaker 2: in America, and I think for that reason, he will

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Speaker 2: know how to play the game much better as far

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Speaker 2: as actually enacting his agenda.

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Speaker 1: So is this a new Donald Trump? Do you think

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Speaker 1: or should we expect more of the same.

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Speaker 2: I think the second time around, we are going to

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Speaker 2: see a smarter, wiser, and more experienced Donald Trump. Trump

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Speaker 2: really made all of the mistakes that the first president

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Speaker 2: will make in his first term. He appointed bad people,

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Speaker 2: He didn't know how Washington worked, He didn't know how

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Speaker 2: to get the best out of his departments and out

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Speaker 2: of his cabinets. I think Trump has now hand selected

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Speaker 2: a team of disruptive loyalists, is the way I put it.

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Speaker 2: So I think he will be a more effective president

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Speaker 2: in enacting his agenda than he was in the first term.

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Speaker 3: And you're witnessing the dawn of the golden age of America.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump assigned a flurry of executive orders on stage

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Speaker 1: on Monday, including dishing out full pardons for fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: members of the group that attacked the Capitol on January sixth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: And you know, tonight, I'm going to be signing on

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Speaker 3: the j six hostages pardons.

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Speaker 1: To get them out. He also froze federal hiring except

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Speaker 1: in essential areas, in an effort to remove what he

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Speaker 1: called useless and overpaid activists from federal roles. He then

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Speaker 1: withdrew from the World Health Organization, backed out of the

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Speaker 1: Powis Agreement, and declared a state of emergency on America's

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Speaker 1: southern border.

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Speaker 3: All illegal entry will immediately be halted, and we will

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Speaker 3: begin the process of returning millions and millions of criminal

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Speaker 3: aliens back to the places from which they came.

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Speaker 1: Trump's administration also pledged to impose twenty five percent tariffs

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Speaker 1: on Canada and Mexico, two of the United States top

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Speaker 1: three trade partners, from February first.

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Speaker 2: But of course, not all of those issues that he

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Speaker 2: talked about can be enacted with an executive order. Some

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Speaker 2: of them require permission of Congress for a start, Others

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Speaker 2: take a longer process, for example, withdrawing from the Paris Accord.

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Speaker 2: So I think Trump is probably touching every button that

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Speaker 2: he can on the first day, but he will have

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Speaker 2: to wait a little longer for some of them. But

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Speaker 2: certainly in his rhetoric, Christian, it's very obvious that he

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Speaker 2: is going to take a very hard line on the border.

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Speaker 2: He sees that as one of his absolute priorities. Is

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Speaker 2: one of the first thing he mentioned in his inauguration

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Speaker 2: speech and in some detail. So I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to see the border being an absolute priority as far

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Speaker 2: as tariffs go, and of course tariffs are among the

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Speaker 2: most contentious of Trump's policy. A lot of that stuff

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Speaker 2: will be negotiated between individual countries in the end, I

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Speaker 2: think the US and whatever country is importing into the US,

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Speaker 2: including Australia, So that may be a longer process than

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Speaker 2: some of the other things that he's trying to join

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Speaker 2: that quickly.

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Speaker 1: Trump was arguably elected because he was able to identify

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Speaker 1: the frustrations felt by members of the American public and

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Speaker 1: the ways in which they're really struggling. But at this

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Speaker 1: inauguration he's visibly aligned himself with a slew of billionaire

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Speaker 1: tech executives. Of course, it's only day one, But what's

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Speaker 1: your assessment of Donald Trump's priorities right now? Is he

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Speaker 1: focused on the price of groceries, for example, or is

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Speaker 1: he distracted by sending people to mars.

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Speaker 2: Well, he certainly likes a bit of everything, doesn't he

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Speaker 2: He'll pursue these things in line with the bread and

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Speaker 2: butter ishes that he campaigned on, such as getting prices

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Speaker 2: down art ce. Look, I don't think he's lost touch

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Speaker 2: with the priorities of that he was elected for. And

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Speaker 2: one of those, interestingly, he said that he's going to

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Speaker 2: bring down prices. Now that's a very difficult thing to do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, inflation has come down in America. That's very

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Speaker 2: difficult to actually lower prices. So he will have some

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Speaker 2: challenges on that front. But looks certainly Trump was elected

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Speaker 2: because he had a better reading of the bread and

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Speaker 2: butter issues such a cost of living inflation of ordinary Americans,

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Speaker 2: a much better reading on that than did the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: and so I'd be very surprised if he forgot about

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Speaker 2: those and got too distracted by other issues.

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Speaker 1: Coming up. Big text role in a new Trump term.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get hell when I said this, but

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Speaker 3: her feet are absolutely aching. You know, those heels.

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Speaker 1: Millennia Trump barely had a chance to change her apparently

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable high heels before one of Donald Trump's appointees

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Speaker 1: was out of a job. Well.

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Speaker 4: AP is reporting that a vague Ramaswami I will not

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Speaker 4: sir in Trump's new Department of Government Efficiency. And there

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Speaker 4: has been a lot of talk and a lot of

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Speaker 4: sources saying that of Vivik Ramaswami, he will announce that

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Speaker 4: he will run for governor of Ohio. He has been

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Speaker 4: making the rounds.

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Speaker 1: The pharmaceutical entrepreneur Vivik Ramaswami had been appointed to the

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Speaker 1: Efficiency Commission alongside Elon Musk. The pair were charged with

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Speaker 1: identifying areas where the White House could make cuts. But

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Speaker 1: on inauguration Day there were rumblings that it was Musk

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Speaker 1: who wanted Ramaswami out.

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Speaker 5: There have been initial reports that there was a falling

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Speaker 5: out or tension at the top of the Department of

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Speaker 5: Government Efficiency between with A. Ramaswami and Elon Musk.

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Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is The Australian's Washington correspondent.

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Speaker 5: So we've now got confirmation that Vivik Ramaswamy will be

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Speaker 5: leaving that position to run for Ohio governor. So look,

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Speaker 5: if that's true and there were tensions there, potentially, you know,

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Speaker 5: that could be an early sign of internal riffs within

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Speaker 5: this new administration. And I think one of the unknowns

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Speaker 5: is how powerful, how much influence Elon Musk is going

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Speaker 5: to have, whether that relationship that the world's richest man

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Speaker 5: has with the new president, how long that relationship will

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Speaker 5: last for, will it endure? Will there be a spectacular

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Speaker 5: kind of falling out?

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Speaker 1: Joe says Elon Musk's embeddedness in the Marga movement could

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Speaker 1: spell danger for Donald Trump down the line.

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Speaker 5: I guess there's a suggestion that Musk is now incorporated

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Speaker 5: into this new Maga view of the world and has

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Speaker 5: a stake in it. So if there's a falling out,

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Speaker 5: who does the base go with? Does it go with Musk,

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Speaker 5: does it go with Trump? How seriously will it divide

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Speaker 5: that movement which Donald Trump has repeatedly called the greatest

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Speaker 5: political movement in US history. So I think there are

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Speaker 5: uncertainties as ever with Donald Trump and things we can't

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Speaker 5: tell at this stage. But I think the departure of

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Speaker 5: Vivek Gramaswamy hints that the possibility that there could be

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Speaker 5: further unrest in the future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these kinds of relationships have historically ended in a

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Speaker 1: pretty explosive fashion. For Donald Trump, I'm thinking of people

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Speaker 1: like Hope Hicks, Anthony Scaramucci, and Steve Bannon. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the calculus of Donald Trump is in aligning

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Speaker 1: himself with tech billionaires like Elon Musk instead of, for example,

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Speaker 5: I think Donald Trump sees a political opportunity, and like

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Speaker 5: he said a couple of weeks ago, the difference between

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Speaker 5: his first administration and the second is that everyone wants

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Speaker 5: to be his friend this time around. So I think

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Speaker 5: this is a sign and a symbol of Donald Trump's

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Speaker 5: much greater political authority going to this second administration. I

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Speaker 5: think Donald Trump sees the potential now to further his agenda,

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Speaker 5: and we see that some of these social media platforms

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Speaker 5: are willing to do that. With Mark Zuckerberg changing the

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Speaker 5: rules on allowing greater free speech without fact checkers. I

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Speaker 5: think some of these tech giants will try and use

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Speaker 5: the Trump administration as a battering ram to sort of

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Speaker 5: solidify what they want and then try and pressure other jurisdictions.

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Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is The Australian's Washington correspondent and Cameron Stewart

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Speaker 1: is our chief international correspondent. You can read all our experts,

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Speaker 1: commentary and analysis of Trump two point zero right now

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