Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, Happy Sunday. Lots of show to get to tonight,
Speaker 1: so let's not muck around. I want to tell you
Speaker 1: the story of two people who sadly are no longer
Speaker 1: with us. One is via an accident and one is
Speaker 1: via absolute incompetence of people who should be there to
Speaker 1: take care of them, and that is a failure of government.
Speaker 1: It was pretty windy in Sydney today and sadly there
Speaker 1: was a lady who ended up losing her life today
Speaker 1: as a tree branch fell, fell quickly and ended up
Speaker 1: crushing her. Here's what locals said about what they saw.
Speaker 1: Try to reside to their tab but unfortunately, I think
Speaker 1: kem Let she already passed before they came. Very terrible
Speaker 1: unscared because our family here in evan of which kid
Speaker 1: might be walking around and then thing like this happen.
Speaker 1: Good examples about Australians trying to help somebody, and of
Speaker 1: course all of us who live around trees, it's a
Speaker 1: fear that we all have. The second, though, is one
Speaker 1: that never should have happened. It is not an accident,
Speaker 1: now you know. I talk about ambulances a lot. I
Speaker 1: talk about the failures in and around our ambulance network
Speaker 1: because there's just not enough of them. There's not enough paramedics,
Speaker 1: and the pressure on paramedics is pretty unbelievable. Now. For
Speaker 1: the last state election in Victoria, I made much of
Speaker 1: what I thought was one of those things that would
Speaker 1: actually move the dial about whether people think that they
Speaker 1: should rehire a government that oversaw such a stuff up
Speaker 1: with the TRIPLEO system, that ambulances weren't turning up, calls
Speaker 1: weren't being connected, and thirty three people died as a
Speaker 1: result of those failures. I've also talked a lot about
Speaker 1: a reason why you should probably get rid of your
Speaker 1: local state government, because every state government in the country
Speaker 1: is currently overseeing hospital ramping, hospital ramping that is at
Speaker 1: near record levels. As I've explained before, if you call
Speaker 1: Triple O and an ambulance turns up, most likely the
Speaker 1: ambulance won't take you straight to the hospital, and then
Speaker 1: you go straight into find a bed because there's not
Speaker 1: enough beds, you end up sitting in the back of
Speaker 1: the hospital, back of the ambulance. This becomes very significant,
Speaker 1: and we have seen examples of people dying as a
Speaker 1: result of the lack of care because they're not physically
Speaker 1: in the hospital. They're in the car park in the
Speaker 1: back of an ambulance, which of course is not able
Speaker 1: to go and collect anyone else because of that hospital ramping. Well,
Speaker 1: apparently there were fifty fewer ambulance crews around this weekend
Speaker 1: in and around central Melbourne because of the exhaustion, that burnout,
Speaker 1: the stress. Now, I in no way when I make
Speaker 1: this point and making the point about your average paramedic.
Speaker 1: These people's entire reason for why they picked the job
Speaker 1: they did is to save as many lives as possible.
Speaker 1: But something is going very wrong when fifty ambulance crews,
Speaker 1: meaning fifty ambulances, weren't around this weekend. The Ambulance Union
Speaker 1: was making the point today about why.
Speaker 2: Code one lights in siren's cases. As we understand, it
Speaker 2: waited over an hour to get an ambulance response. We
Speaker 2: see this when crews are fatigued and they're burnt out
Speaker 2: and they're exhausted.
Speaker 1: I'm sad to say that there is a story tonight
Speaker 1: of a man who should still be with us, but
Speaker 1: the ambulance never turned up. In fact, it was a
Speaker 1: four hour period of time between when the call was
Speaker 1: made to when the ambulance actually turned up. Quoting from
Speaker 1: the age, a man was found dead early on Sunday
Speaker 1: morning as stretched paramedics arrived four hours after a neighbor
Speaker 1: first heard him calling out for help and called Triple
Speaker 1: zero based on the limited information that he had received.
Speaker 1: Hill Is, of course, the representative of the union, said
Speaker 1: that the neighbor couldn't access the property themselves and had
Speaker 1: heard the man call for up to two hours after
Speaker 1: the initial call to emergency services. At some point after
Speaker 1: that two hours, the voice disappeared and presumably he was
Speaker 1: getting sicker or had actually died. It wasn't until another
Speaker 1: two hours before the ambulance crew actually got to the
Speaker 1: home cow for help.
Speaker 2: You expect to get it when it's really busy. There
Speaker 2: are delays, but a four hour delay really just doesn't
Speaker 2: give someone who's critically unwell a chance at surviving.
Speaker 1: What is going on here? What is going on in
Speaker 1: a first world country where we pay so much in
Speaker 1: tax Whereas I've told you before, federal, state and local
Speaker 1: government have more money coming into them than they have
Speaker 1: ever had before in our lifetimes. Yet an ambulance service
Speaker 1: is stretched so thin that fifty separate crews not as
Speaker 1: part of industrial action, but they were unable to get
Speaker 1: into the ambulances, meaning you had an extra chance of
Speaker 1: being collected if someone calls. Now, of course, none of
Speaker 1: us want to have a moment where we have to
Speaker 1: call Triple OW, but our assumption is when we do,
Speaker 1: it's an emergency, it's a real emergency. And when we're
Speaker 1: calling about a neighbor that for whatever reason we can't
Speaker 1: physically get into their home because maybe we are disabled,
Speaker 1: we are unable ourselves due to ill health, to be
Speaker 1: able to get next door and help somebody that for
Speaker 1: two hours you can hear their pain. In two hours,
Speaker 1: when you call Triple O anywhere in Australia, an ambulance
Speaker 1: should turn up, but in this case it didn't, and
Speaker 1: in this case the man died. Ambulance Victoria of course,
Speaker 1: will not release any further details because it's now a
Speaker 1: matter for the coroner, meaning of course that the hope
Speaker 1: is that some report will come out many months from
Speaker 1: now and we won't notice. The statement though that was
Speaker 1: released by Ambulance Victoria is your classic holding statement where
Speaker 1: you say everything, but you really say nothing. Our deeper
Speaker 1: sympathies are with the patient's family at this very sad time.
Speaker 1: We would like to thank the community members who alerted
Speaker 1: Triple zero. That's it. Not we failed, not we will
Speaker 1: do better. Not we need the government to give us
Speaker 1: more money, or more equipment or more people. Just thanks
Speaker 1: for your call. Honestly, this is like you're on hold
Speaker 1: with an insurance company and you're being told that you're
Speaker 1: seventeenth in the queue, but your call is important to us.
Speaker 1: Any call to Triple O is an emergency. There are
Speaker 1: too many calls, yes, hundreds, nay even thousands of them
Speaker 1: every year in every state, which are idiotic, stupid, rubbish calls.
Speaker 1: But clearly here the neighbor calls Triple zero and says
Speaker 1: I can hear my neighbor screaming they're in pain. Pain
Speaker 1: that continued for at least two hours, and help not
Speaker 1: offered for another two hours. My advice is that tomorrow
Speaker 1: morning the Health Minister should resign because when a system
Speaker 1: fails like this, it is beyond your capacity to control it,
Speaker 1: or you are out of your depth being able to
Speaker 1: respond to it. So though same way she turned and
Speaker 1: left a press conference, she should turn and leave the Ministry.
Speaker 1: The Premiere should sack this minister. Now, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything else about this situation other than what I have
Speaker 1: read and what I have told you. But how is
Speaker 1: it acceptable in a state where thirty three people died
Speaker 1: before the last state election because the triple O system
Speaker 1: didn't work, and this man dies because an ambulance doesn't
Speaker 1: turn up for four hours, and not four hours during
Speaker 1: the busiest time of the day, but at two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, all the way till six o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, there was no one there to take care
Speaker 1: of this person. We will learn in the next twenty
Speaker 1: four hours whether the Victorian government is interested at all
Speaker 1: in first accountability but secondly treating this with the urgency
Speaker 1: that it deserves. Or most likely you won't hear anything
Speaker 1: from anyone tomorrow. No one will do a press conference.
Speaker 1: There'll be nothing happening in and around Parliament. The media
Speaker 1: will move on because they won an election even after
Speaker 1: thirty three people had died as a result of the
Speaker 1: tripolo system that failed on their watch. Now we've debated
Speaker 1: long and half here on Sky News about the absolute
Speaker 1: idiocy of the decision which was made by the Environment
Speaker 1: Minister based off one activist about whether or not a
Speaker 1: certain amount of water could be used for the tailings
Speaker 1: of a gold mine in central New South Wales. It's Blainey,
Speaker 1: which is not too far from Bathurst. This is a
Speaker 1: huge project that would have hired thousands of people and
Speaker 1: may well have ended up producing at least a billion
Speaker 1: dollars worth of gold. Now the Environment Minister listening to
Speaker 1: the one piece of advice that she wanted as opposed
Speaker 1: to all of the other advice that was on the table,
Speaker 1: and even her Prime Minister who allegedly said he fully
Speaker 1: supports the mine. Let alone other local Indigenous people, let
Speaker 1: alone the local community, let alone the nwsappals Premier No no,
Speaker 1: Tanya knows best. So this project disappears. But the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister says he fully supports it. He couldn't possibly overrule
Speaker 1: or tell the minister to go back and make a
Speaker 1: different decision because of course these people don't talk to
Speaker 1: each other. Why because you see their factional factional enemies.
Speaker 1: He's the leader of the left, the Unicophals left in particular,
Speaker 1: Tanua was the former deputy leader from the Nusopas left,
Speaker 1: who of course had to get out of the way,
Speaker 1: so Albo could make his run towards the leadership. But
Speaker 1: you know it's the Liberal Party that has a problem
Speaker 1: with women. But the bea Toloo gas basin, the bead basin,
Speaker 1: i should say, and the gas project in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1: This is huge now according to the Northern Territory Government
Speaker 1: and reporting at the time, the amount of gas that
Speaker 1: is in this part of the Northern Territory is five
Speaker 1: hundred trillion cubic feet of gas. Gas, of course is
Speaker 1: high in Australia because whatever we come out of the ground,
Speaker 1: for some reason, we have sent more of it overseas
Speaker 1: than we keep for ourselves. That's an issue for another day.
Speaker 1: But it also would have provided six three hundred jobs
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory, which has a population of just a
Speaker 1: couple hundred thousand people. That is a significant number of
Speaker 1: jobs and it's something that the Northern Territory government under
Speaker 1: not the most recent but the one before that Chief
Speaker 1: Minister supported this project for too long. They had dragged
Speaker 1: their feet, but finally they came out and they said
Speaker 1: that they had backed the Terloo Basin gas project. In
Speaker 1: actual fact, at the time it was something that they
Speaker 1: were trying to use to try to hold onto power,
Speaker 1: something that of course they lost. Despite the fact that
Speaker 1: the person who replaced this Chief Minister as Labour's Chief
Speaker 1: Minister also supported the project.
Speaker 3: I want to make it clear traditional owners Aboriginal territorians
Speaker 3: have the power to veto a project. Now is the
Speaker 3: time for the Northern Territory to provide the energy that
Speaker 3: the world needs to transition to renewable energies. We are
Speaker 3: absolutely serious about protecting our environment and our social amenity.
Speaker 3: This won't come at the cost to territorians.
Speaker 1: Now. That was the same super lefty Labor Chief Minister
Speaker 1: who of course believed that alcohol bands in Alice Springs
Speaker 1: in particular were racist. Of course, she was proven to
Speaker 1: be very wrong and ended up putting them back in
Speaker 1: place and to some extent they worked. So this was
Speaker 1: a person who clearly in a previous political life would
Speaker 1: not have been interested in the project. In fact, she
Speaker 1: most likely would have tried to throw the project under
Speaker 1: the bus, because remember she ended up losing her seat
Speaker 1: in Parliament to the Greens, but she supports the project.
Speaker 1: Of course, there was a change of government and they
Speaker 1: too support this project because firstly, that amount of gas
Speaker 1: would obviously help with the territory's capacity to have permanent
Speaker 1: energy backing up the renewable energy. There's so much that
Speaker 1: gas that would be able to do the same potentially
Speaker 1: for other parts of the country, straight down to South Australia,
Speaker 1: across the Queensland Diagonal, down to places like New South Wales.
Speaker 1: But guess what, Tanya Plubisek has now found a reason
Speaker 1: to delay the project. Fresh after the scandal that was
Speaker 1: how she destroyed the mine in the middle of New
Speaker 1: South Wales, she is now in a position where she
Speaker 1: has decided to push this off to an independent committee.
Speaker 1: And I think we all know how the independent committee's
Speaker 1: going to rule, because it wasn't her choice, it was
Speaker 1: the committee's choice. Environment Minister Tania Plebisec will force controversial
Speaker 1: gas fracking projects and the straight is far north to
Speaker 1: under go tough environmental checks. Of course, they're deliberately so
Speaker 1: tough that nothing would get approved. As the federal government
Speaker 1: brows with its political opponents and miners of the future
Speaker 1: nature law reforms, plubi sc intervened on the weekend. Now
Speaker 1: remember she did this on Saturday, hoping that everyone would
Speaker 1: be distracted by football finals or local government elections in
Speaker 1: New South Wales. But guess what. Thanks to the reporting of,
Speaker 1: among others, the Sydney Morning Herald, we have noticed this
Speaker 1: plub a se devend on Saturday in the debate over
Speaker 1: the impact of gas exploration in water resources in the
Speaker 1: Begloo Basin, five hundred kilometers south of Darwin, declaring the
Speaker 1: three projects would be subject to scientific assessments. Now remember
Speaker 1: they've already gone through all of the assessments to be
Speaker 1: able to laudge all of the paperwork to get the
Speaker 1: approval of both sides of territory politics. But this decision
Speaker 1: will deeply damage labor. The best case scenario for the
Speaker 1: COLP representing the LNP and the National Party of the
Speaker 1: next federal election is to win the seat of Solomon,
Speaker 1: that's the one in and around Darwin, because many of
Speaker 1: the jobs would be connected back to Darwin. The energy
Speaker 1: projects would be connected back to Darwin. But equally so,
Speaker 1: when places like Alice Springs have been plunged into darkness
Speaker 1: because and I'm not joking, a cloud goes over their
Speaker 1: soul of farm, this would be the way to guarantee
Speaker 1: that the lights stay on. If this project is killed,
Speaker 1: so too would at least one of those two territory
Speaker 1: seats in my view for the Labor Party. Now Marian Scrimjaw,
Speaker 1: who is the local Labor politician, she was skeptical about
Speaker 1: the Voice. She is not a left wing advocate, of course,
Speaker 1: she's telling the line that this is the right decision.
Speaker 1: But as Alla Springs has shown us in the territory
Speaker 1: elections and in the Voice elections, they don't quite care
Speaker 1: what they are told by Labor, which is their own
Speaker 1: good interests, what they believe to be the best interests
Speaker 1: of the public. The public turns around says no, we
Speaker 1: want energy that works, and if we can have some
Speaker 1: jobs on top of that, even better. In The Guardian,
Speaker 1: the most left wing view of this decision, Plibask said
Speaker 1: environmental decisions must be guided by science and natural environment law.
Speaker 1: Now again that's all code for indigenous issues. That's why
Speaker 1: I've asked scientific experts to look at these projects to
Speaker 1: settle any concerns about potential impacts on water. Well, how
Speaker 1: did they get to the place where they had been announced,
Speaker 1: they had been supported. There is hard equipment that is
Speaker 1: on those sites right now without all of this already
Speaker 1: have been done. No, this is a way of trying
Speaker 1: to delay the projects. This is a way of trying
Speaker 1: to kill the projects. Anyone concerned should respect the independent
Speaker 1: scientists and not rush to judgment on the basis of assumptions.
Speaker 1: But of course this may well be in and around
Speaker 1: doing her bit for Green's preferences because they keep her
Speaker 1: alive in the city of Sydney and the Seat of
Speaker 1: Sydney as well. The Federal Green's Environment spokesperson, Sarah Hanson
Speaker 1: Young said that the company could start fracking any day
Speaker 1: and Plebisk should use her powers under the expanded water
Speaker 1: trigger to stop it, letting the company drill for months
Speaker 1: while the report is being written as too risky for
Speaker 1: the environment in the local water supply. So all of
Speaker 1: this had already been approved. This is just another bit
Speaker 1: of red green tape that's being found at the last
Speaker 1: minute to wrap up the project, to try to lay
Speaker 1: it till eventually the private company walks away, or to
Speaker 1: kill it off to win Green's preferences that they would
Speaker 1: already be guaranteed of getting at the next election. Watch
Speaker 1: this space if you look. The gold mine was a
Speaker 1: big story. The Begloo Basin is much bigger, not just
Speaker 1: for the territory, not just for those two seats, but
Speaker 1: for the country in general. A lot of people have
Speaker 1: had something to say about the welcome to country ceremony,
Speaker 1: not just the general existence of them. We certainly know
Speaker 1: there are some local councils with people that have been
Speaker 1: re elected that have turned around said no, enough of
Speaker 1: this stuff. I don't want to be welcome in my
Speaker 1: own country, all the rest of it. You know, the
Speaker 1: arguments against it. Well, there was Welcome to Country of
Speaker 1: the AFL Finals this weekend and it was the match
Speaker 1: between the Lions and the Giants. Lions one, Giants out
Speaker 1: of the finals. If you haven't heard, this is what
Speaker 1: the bloke had to say. And I think this is
Speaker 1: a bit of a preview of the future where the
Speaker 1: Welcome to Country ceremony will be an opportunity for somebody
Speaker 1: to lecture.
Speaker 4: Welcome to country is not a ceremony that we've invented
Speaker 4: to cater for white people.
Speaker 1: He's got more.
Speaker 4: It's a ceremony we've been doing for two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand years plus BC, and the BC stands for
Speaker 4: before Cook.
Speaker 1: Okay, versely, isn't it sixty five thousand years? That's what
Speaker 1: we were all being told during the Voice debate forty
Speaker 1: thousand years, of course twenty years before that. So I
Speaker 1: just love to know what he knows about two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand years. Not that it matters, not that
Speaker 1: anyone will question it, That's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: But mark my words, as the next generation of people
Speaker 1: become the activists that are paid to provide these ceremonies,
Speaker 1: they are going to get rougher. They are going to
Speaker 1: be how some people are going to try to lecture
Speaker 1: the assembled crowd about either the crimes that have taken
Speaker 1: place or the crimes that never been atoned for. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, this is all supposed to be an opportunity
Speaker 1: from people like the AFL to reach out. But if
Speaker 1: the person will take your money to appear but still
Speaker 1: slap the hand that pays the money to appear, well
Speaker 1: then I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of the
Speaker 1: exercise is, but as if it's going to change anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Sadly now, the Reserve Bank of Australia, after a dozen
Speaker 1: interest rate rises under the Albanezi government, they themselves have
Speaker 1: said that at the last meeting they were more likely
Speaker 1: to put them up than put them down. They ended
Speaker 1: up holding and holding just But as we've talked about
Speaker 1: ever since the last election, one interest rate rise was
Speaker 1: apparently a sign of a cost of living crisis that
Speaker 1: was out of control, and the former Prime Minister had
Speaker 1: to go, well what do you say when there's been
Speaker 1: twelve more of them under your watch? Well, of course
Speaker 1: Jim Chumas has an answer to all of this, which
Speaker 1: is to change the Reserve Bank so it doesn't make
Speaker 1: the decisions that the government doesn't want them to make
Speaker 1: or becomes politically difficult. The python, of course that is
Speaker 1: around Australians when it comes to trying to pay off
Speaker 1: their own homes, or cost of living in general, or
Speaker 1: rent that goes up as a result of the person
Speaker 1: trying to pay off the house of which you are renting. Well,
Speaker 1: it is now so tight around people's necks that, as
Speaker 1: I often say, people they're not just bright red, they're
Speaker 1: not purple. They're like rabina purple with how much pressure
Speaker 1: they're on. But Jim Charmers has a plan. He wants
Speaker 1: to put a law through the Parliament that will change
Speaker 1: the way the Reserve Bank works. Firstly, the current group
Speaker 1: of people who are making the decisions which clearly are
Speaker 1: about trying to get inflation in this country down to
Speaker 1: between two and three percent, despite the fact that inflation
Speaker 1: remains closer to four percent in this country rather than
Speaker 1: three percent, while in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan,
Speaker 1: all of their inflation is lower than ours. But nothing
Speaker 1: to see here, right. The government, of course then turns
Speaker 1: around and spends billions and billions and billions of extra
Speaker 1: dollars that they didn't spend before. But then they say
Speaker 1: it won't be inflationary. But then our inflation rate is
Speaker 1: higher than the rest of the world. Nothing to see here,
Speaker 1: of course. So the first thing they did was after
Speaker 1: appointing their own version of the Reserve Bank boss, that
Speaker 1: now being Michelle Bullet, to replace the previous one because
Speaker 1: remember he was mustache twirling and monocle owning and he
Speaker 1: didn't care. Oh that's right, he just was trying to
Speaker 1: return the country to the agreed rate of inflation. She
Speaker 1: also now has to give press conferences after the decisions
Speaker 1: are made, because of course she will be therefore held responsible,
Speaker 1: not the government. And they don't meet every month, they
Speaker 1: meet every six weeks or so. But the law, the
Speaker 1: Charmers wants to put in place is to take the
Speaker 1: current group of people who are making those decisions the
Speaker 1: Reserve Bank Board and create an entirely separate group of
Speaker 1: people who are not connected to the board to make
Speaker 1: the decisions about interest rates. Among those they would like
Speaker 1: to put on that board union members, people who would
Speaker 1: put simply not represent workers but do the bidding of
Speaker 1: the government in the independent Reserve Bank. Now, the Greens
Speaker 1: believe that this really isn't necessary because they think that
Speaker 1: the current laws should be actually beefed up, meaning that
Speaker 1: the current Treasurer would be able to overrule the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 1: But today we learned that the Liberal Party won't be
Speaker 1: having this. They'll do a deal in age care, but
Speaker 1: they won't do a deal on changing or dare I say,
Speaker 1: rigging the Reserve Bank. Jane Hume on Channel Too.
Speaker 5: Today, maintaining stability and continuity on that board is fundamental
Speaker 5: for fighting inflation and that should be the government's number
Speaker 5: one priority. That was the government's sticking point. Now, Bizarrely,
Speaker 5: the Treasurer then went into war with the RBA and
Speaker 5: essentially try to undermine their in their independence, which we
Speaker 5: found very question We're comfortable with the board that we
Speaker 5: have that are dealing with monetary policy as they are.
Speaker 5: That's the best way to get inflation down, which should
Speaker 5: be the number one priority.
Speaker 1: Correct. And remember, the majority of Australians polled even by
Speaker 1: left wing organizations, shows that the majority of Australians blame
Speaker 1: the federal government and the Treasurer for the issues to
Speaker 1: do with cost of living, not the Reserve Bank, the
Speaker 1: pre rigged Reserve Bank. For his part, again, Jim Chalmers
Speaker 1: about why he wants to change the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 6: I think you can imagine a situation where there has
Speaker 6: been some substantial structural or institutional failure or some kind
Speaker 6: of other emergency around perhaps the personnel of the Reserve
Speaker 6: Bank and it's board or something like that, some total
Speaker 6: breakdown in the usual kind of decision making capacity of
Speaker 6: the Reserve Bank. But we're very deliberately not stipulating the
Speaker 6: exact circumstances. We're trying to limit the circumstances.
Speaker 1: But hang on, there's no evidence of any of that. Yes,
Speaker 1: they had an inquiry which of course suggested, guess what,
Speaker 1: you should change the bank and be able to have
Speaker 1: more representative voices like unions on its example of it
Speaker 1: being a failed institution in terms of how it does
Speaker 1: what it does. You can disagree with this decisions violence democracy,
Speaker 1: but this is a bloke who is just literally trying
Speaker 1: to novel the Reserve Bank from making the independent decisions
Speaker 1: to bring inflation down, inflation that in part still remains
Speaker 1: high because of the decisions of this federal government. I
Speaker 1: mentioned the Greens before. Now remember, most likely after the
Speaker 1: next election, it's a minority government and the Greens are
Speaker 1: the tail that's wagging the dog.
Speaker 7: They have the power and it's therefore a reason it's
Speaker 7: there because in emergencies and in crises, and we're saying
Speaker 7: that people are at breaking point and are in a
Speaker 7: crisis now in the middle of a cost of living,
Speaker 7: an inequality crisis. Labours saying they want to take their
Speaker 7: hands off the steering wheel even more, and we're saying no,
Speaker 7: that's not the answer.
Speaker 1: So what's the prime ministers are going to do about this? Well,
Speaker 1: not much this week, you see, he's got more important
Speaker 1: things to do now. Normally the Prime Minister passes himself
Speaker 1: off as one of us by walking around building sites,
Speaker 1: pointing at things high vis. Oh, but the other guy
Speaker 1: was all about far Yeah, okay, pot calling kettle. We
Speaker 1: all know what Albo really likes to do, which is
Speaker 1: to get on one of two brand new private planes
Speaker 1: that his government have paid for and delivered. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: originally ordered by the previous government. But Jess, isn't it
Speaker 1: inconvenient to cancel a brand new plane because I like
Speaker 1: flying around the wall on my own private plane that
Speaker 1: I even nickname after my dog. So guess what airbus
Speaker 1: elbow this week? Back up in the air where he
Speaker 1: loves to be, just looking at clouds. That was a
Speaker 1: real grab. Remember we showed you that he's off in
Speaker 1: the United States. He's going to be there for a
Speaker 1: meeting of the Quad leaders. That of course is among
Speaker 1: others Australia, the United States, India that are there. It
Speaker 1: means we'll get the opportunity of seeing a couple of
Speaker 1: losers together this time, Joe Biden and in my view,
Speaker 1: Anthony Abernezi Bubba all wait and see now. No doubt
Speaker 1: they'll probably be a little side meeting with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: No conversation at all when it comes to Trump, but
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a moment or two is time.
Speaker 1: But good to know, right, he will be up in
Speaker 1: the air again, where he loves to be, on a
Speaker 1: plane that he nicknames after his dog, sitting with a
Speaker 1: president who is a lame duck president who does not
Speaker 1: even have the strength to run for reelection, let alone
Speaker 1: to actually remain the president because of course, as we know,
Speaker 1: he spends more time at the beach than he does
Speaker 1: actually talking about global affairs. But also worth noting about
Speaker 1: global affairs is the latest escalation of the Ukraine War. Now,
Speaker 1: for anyone who's half listening, I'm not somebody who believes
Speaker 1: that the Ukraine War is a hopeless fight that no
Speaker 1: one should be involved in. For obvious reasons, one's at democracy,
Speaker 1: Russia ain't, and for obvious reasons, Ukraine should do everything
Speaker 1: it can to try to repel Russia. But there's been
Speaker 1: a change in the past couple of weeks that maybe
Speaker 1: you haven't noticed because there's a lot of other things
Speaker 1: going on, And it is now a scenario where as
Speaker 1: you know, the United States can't fight with Russia because
Speaker 1: if they fight with Russia directly, well, of course Russia
Speaker 1: has a deal with China to defend Russia, and we're
Speaker 1: off to the races. World World War III, of course,
Speaker 1: what Ukraine is doing to defend itself to use weapons
Speaker 1: that are made by the United States shipped to them
Speaker 1: from the United States, and the United States get to
Speaker 1: decide what they can use. This month, Joe Biden has
Speaker 1: decided that missiles that will go further into Russia can
Speaker 1: now be used by Ukraine to shoot in to Russia. Now, again,
Speaker 1: the logic here is to try to weaken the Russian
Speaker 1: forces or cut off their capacity to go back into Russia.
Speaker 1: But still, is it not still an American weapon landing
Speaker 1: in Russian territory just because it wasn't fired by an
Speaker 1: American How will Putin respond? I don't say this is
Speaker 1: a Putin apologist. He's the bad guy, right, But there
Speaker 1: has been an escalation where it's not just giving them money,
Speaker 1: it's giving them weapons and now giving them weapons to
Speaker 1: actually hit Russia with. And this is not a one off.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Biden administration is now currently this week
Speaker 1: meeting with the UK's brand new prime minister telling them, hey,
Speaker 1: you should do the same thing. So again, unpredictable, wrong,
Speaker 1: bad guy Russia. How do they respond when weapons of
Speaker 1: the United States and the UK will be dropped into Russia?
Speaker 1: How will China respond? Of course, nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: Right at the end of October, Hopefully Queensland will do
Speaker 1: what fingers crossed we have been asking them to do
Speaker 1: for a long time, and that is to flush the
Speaker 1: ridiculous labor government that they have there right now, giggles Miles,
Speaker 1: Hopefully the gig will be wiped off his face and
Speaker 1: the person to do it, we hope will be David Crucifully. Now,
Speaker 1: remember we spoke about David Crucifully all the way back
Speaker 1: when he was a shadow minister, and we're backed him
Speaker 1: in from the first day that he became the opposition leader.
Speaker 1: We talk about Queensland politics a lot because I love
Speaker 1: Queensland now amazingly Today the decision from both sides of
Speaker 1: politics was to permanently keep the fifty cent public traansport
Speaker 1: fares because there has been our giant surge in the
Speaker 1: number of people that have been catching buses and trains.
Speaker 1: Sure it costs spillions, but who cares right. Also worth
Speaker 1: noting though, is that this is the start of the
Speaker 1: soft election campaign before we get to the actual election campaign.
Speaker 1: At the end of the month, Parliament's no longer around,
Speaker 1: so basically election campaign has begun, and these are the
Speaker 1: issues that matter. According to the opinion polls that show
Speaker 1: that an undecided number at forty percent is a lot
Speaker 1: higher than the low twenties for preferred premier. Right now,
Speaker 1: for Stephen Miles, the economy number one issue, daylight second
Speaker 1: fifty one percent. That's got to be good for the LNP.
Speaker 1: Housing and rental affordability, well, you'd think that may well
Speaker 1: help the Greens, certainly in lefty areas crime and antisocial behavior.
Speaker 1: We know that's going to help the opposition and everything
Speaker 1: under that is single digits, including climate change, which is
Speaker 1: not even on the list now. As we know, last
Speaker 1: week was the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: and the expectation is that's it, and you know what,
Speaker 1: that's all it should be, because we know how rigged
Speaker 1: it was in terms of the moderators. We know that
Speaker 1: Trump certainly got himself into trouble with the whole cat business.
Speaker 1: But essentially we don't need another debate. This is more
Speaker 1: of a media event than anything else, right at least
Speaker 1: that's what Trump says right now.
Speaker 4: So because we've done two debates and because they were successful.
Speaker 1: There will be no third debate.
Speaker 8: As everyone saw two.
Speaker 4: Nights ago, we had a monumental victory over Comrade Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris and the presidential debt.
Speaker 1: But one thing that we all thought we were going
Speaker 1: to see in the debate, which we didn't, but we
Speaker 1: did see once she started doing interviews, including on local
Speaker 1: television in Philadelphia. This is relevant because it's seen across
Speaker 1: all the Pennsylvania win, Pennsylvania win the presidency for either
Speaker 1: Tim Red or Team Blue. But the word salads. This
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why she is the most
Speaker 1: unpopular vice president of all time, not twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: right now. And then, of course she wasn't Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: So Obama in a pants suit, But as I've argued,
Speaker 1: it's more of an empty pantsuit than Obama in a pantsuit,
Speaker 1: because in part she says crap like this.
Speaker 2: When we talk about bringing down prices and making life
Speaker 2: more affordable for people, what are.
Speaker 8: One or two specific things you have in mind for that.
Speaker 9: Well, I'll start with this. I grew up a middle
Speaker 9: class kid. My mother raised my sister and me. She
Speaker 9: worked very hard. She was able to finally save up
Speaker 9: enough money to buy our first house. When I was
Speaker 9: a teenager. I try to explain to some people who
Speaker 9: may not have had the same experience. You know, if
Speaker 9: a lot of people will relate to this. You know,
Speaker 9: I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who are
Speaker 9: very proud of their line.
Speaker 1: Now we stand by for the post debate bounce that
Speaker 1: supposedly is going to put Kamala haha beyond touching distance.
Speaker 1: We'll guess what tonight. A grade polls show her up
Speaker 1: by a lot, and another a grade pole says him
Speaker 1: up by a lot. So who knows. Let's say, look
Speaker 1: at the videotape of random people in a firehouse in
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania about their reaction to Biden and Harris or Trump
Speaker 1: and Vance. I know it ain't science. We'll all wait
Speaker 1: and see fifty one days to go. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: it every day between now and then, not to do
Speaker 1: the stuff you need to know. We'll ignore all the
Speaker 1: garbage as well. And I can't wait to be in
Speaker 1: the States for the election and a little bit before
Speaker 1: and most certainly after quick break back with more lots
Speaker 1: of talk about lots of debate, bold predictions for the
Speaker 1: week ahead, and a very special friend of mine with
Speaker 1: an conversation that I know you're going to absolutely love warness.
Speaker 1: How good is this Sunday night? So good to see
Speaker 1: two people who've got a smile on the die for
Speaker 1: very different reasons. James Ashby's got a smile in his
Speaker 1: die because he knows the election is on its way
Speaker 1: and he's running there in the set of capable for
Speaker 1: one nation. It's getting closer and there you go at
Speaker 1: his chances go up by the day, and the wonderful
Speaker 1: Linda Scott's happy because she's done with local council. Right,
Speaker 1: twelve years of your life finished done. Congratulations, Thank you
Speaker 1: for your service all of that business in relation to
Speaker 1: local government. Thank you for always coming on this program.
Speaker 1: But let's get to my favorite topic, which is the
Speaker 1: censoring of the Internet, the Misinformation Bill, James. It was
Speaker 1: announced on Thursday. It's there if anyone wants to go
Speaker 1: and find the details of seventy five pages of it.
Speaker 1: I've had plenty to say about why I think this
Speaker 1: is dangerous, What do you think of it?
Speaker 10: Or the public are get to really have a tough
Speaker 10: time getting their heads around this. But you know, the
Speaker 10: unintended consequences with bills that labor put forward are the
Speaker 10: things to really look forward to people because it starts
Speaker 10: off trying to crack down on the hardcore mistruths and disinformation,
Speaker 10: and then somehow finishes up that you can no longer
Speaker 10: post photos of you and the kids with Santa Claus
Speaker 10: because you know, all of a sudden that'll be treated
Speaker 10: as misinformation as well. I can't gather get over the
Speaker 10: fines here, Paul. They're trying to say they're going to
Speaker 10: charge five percent of the global revenue of some of
Speaker 10: these big corporations. And we're talking companies like Facebook here
Speaker 10: global turnover one hundred and thirty five billion. They want
Speaker 10: to hit them with a five percent fine. Like, I
Speaker 10: don't quite get it. Is this labour's way of somehow
Speaker 10: also trying to balance their budget and try and bring
Speaker 10: some revenue in because that's about a seven billion dollar fine.
Speaker 10: If people are caught doing the wrong thing and Facebook
Speaker 10: face the penalty, it just doesn't make sense. This has
Speaker 10: got a lot of holes in it, this bill, and
Speaker 10: no wonder so many people have had a lot to say,
Speaker 10: all negative.
Speaker 1: I might just add, yeah, remember the first version of
Speaker 1: this and this very little difference in my view between
Speaker 1: first and the second version was opposed from everyone from
Speaker 1: the ABC to US, from the IPA to the Human
Speaker 1: Rights Commission. Okay, so there's putting holes in all of this.
Speaker 1: For their part, the shadow Home Affairs ministers had plenty
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 11: Oh, this is crackpot stuff. This is about sovereignty. The
Speaker 11: Australian government, like every other democratic country in the world,
Speaker 11: asserts it right its rights to make laws to keep
Speaker 11: Australian safe. This is not about free speech. How can
Speaker 11: anyone in the name of free speech defend criminals publishing
Speaker 11: misleading content online which is leading Australians to lose billions
Speaker 11: of dollars.
Speaker 1: Apologies, we let that one through to the keeper Where
Speaker 1: that's the government pushing it's agenda there, I think that's
Speaker 1: the Assistant Treasurer Linda. I've got a lot of concerns
Speaker 1: about this. I understand what theoretically they're going after, but
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a government solution to this. Well.
Speaker 12: Look, I am not surprised to hear James Ashby on
Speaker 12: the side of billionaire Illin Mask, but it is disappointing
Speaker 12: because there's some pretty wacky views out there on the internet.
Speaker 12: This bill is pretty reasonable. It's calling for things that
Speaker 12: are demonstrably false. You've really got to be able to
Speaker 12: prove beyond a shadow of doubt that this information is
Speaker 12: false and in addition that the information could reasonably cause harm.
Speaker 13: What we don't want is kind of.
Speaker 12: Deep fake videos of you, Paul, you know, getting up
Speaker 12: and saying things that you don't believe, coming onto the internet,
Speaker 12: demonstrably fake and dangerous, could cause harm, could cause people
Speaker 12: to think that you think all sorts of incredibly good
Speaker 12: left wing things right, and that that be able to
Speaker 12: be sort of allowed because it's either permitted or the
Speaker 12: punishment is a slap on the is we cannot live
Speaker 12: in a democratic world. Where As Stephen Jones rightly says,
Speaker 12: we're allowing criminals to put false different you know, false
Speaker 12: disinformation that can cause harm onto the internet, and we
Speaker 12: all say, oh, that's okay, that's not okay.
Speaker 1: It's going to be about be being used to get
Speaker 1: rid of the content on podcasts and YouTube videos that
Speaker 1: they don't like. But we'll all wait and see together,
Speaker 1: we'll debate it as it goes. Obviously, the Queensland election
Speaker 1: often running, so James, I've got to get you nice
Speaker 1: and early on this. We've got both sides of politics,
Speaker 1: incredibly expensive policy, but the fifty cent thing's going to
Speaker 1: stick around. But it's the crime stuff that matters the
Speaker 1: most to me. It is top three issue. It is
Speaker 1: not number one, but it is top three issue for people.
Speaker 1: L ANDP came out today claiming that assault or victims
Speaker 1: of assault had actually increased one hundred and ninety three
Speaker 1: percent since the government came to power. You would no doubt,
Speaker 1: no and agree and people would come up to you
Speaker 1: in the street that crime is one of the tipping
Speaker 1: points of this election.
Speaker 8: Yeah, sure is.
Speaker 10: We've got a massive problem here in central Queensland with
Speaker 10: domestic violence as well. You know, we're the third highest
Speaker 10: offending area right throughout the whole of Queensland. Livingstonshire is
Speaker 10: the third worst in our state, which is quite sad,
Speaker 10: but you know, we've got to have places to put
Speaker 10: these people who are serial offenders, whether they be domestic
Speaker 10: violence or assault, and stop giving the perpetrators the slap
Speaker 10: on the wrist and letting them out. I'm sorry. We
Speaker 10: talk about human rights all the time and the person
Speaker 10: who's committed the offense can't spend too much time in prison. Sorry,
Speaker 10: what about the human rights of those poor victims out
Speaker 10: there who are left languishing, often because they can't afford
Speaker 10: to get over the nightmares I've been broken into and
Speaker 10: having their cars style and sometimes at knife point, and
Speaker 10: these things have monumental impacts on people. We've got to
Speaker 10: start looking after the people who have been offended against
Speaker 10: and start locking up these offenders. If you've only got
Speaker 10: three hundred and six detention center beds in this state,
Speaker 10: Paul tough luck trying to lock them up for too long,
Speaker 10: because that's why they get a free ticket. They go
Speaker 10: in for a couple of weeks and then they're let go,
Speaker 10: so it's really no deterrent for them. We've got to
Speaker 10: build more detention center beds, and we've actually got to
Speaker 10: make them a punishment, not a holiday camp. So we've
Speaker 10: got to get tough on a few fronts there if
Speaker 10: we're going to deal with the crime that seems to
Speaker 10: continue to escalate in this state.
Speaker 1: All right, give me the bumper stickers. So people want
Speaker 1: to read more about what you want to do in Keppel,
Speaker 1: but equally important, what one nation wants to do across
Speaker 1: the whole state. What's the website, what's the socials?
Speaker 10: People can simply go to James Ashby dot com dot
Speaker 10: au or go to Queensland dot one Nation dot org
Speaker 10: dot au and every policy. Unlike the other major parties,
Speaker 10: they haven't even put their policies online. We've put our
Speaker 10: full suite of policies online for people to re scrutinize,
Speaker 10: do what they like. They can give me a call
Speaker 10: as well.
Speaker 1: Good Man, good man, All right, Well, I won't give
Speaker 1: the number out on it, but I presumably there's a
Speaker 1: way to get it legitimately through one Nation. All right.
Speaker 1: Clover Moore gets another term in the City of Sydney.
Speaker 1: Disappointing because more of the same is not good anywhere
Speaker 1: after that length of time. We've spoken about many times
Speaker 1: why she's not a great Lord Mayor of Sydney. But
Speaker 1: as you start to look back at your time on
Speaker 1: that particular local council, what do you want to say
Speaker 1: about the more things change, the more things stay the same.
Speaker 12: Well, look, I had the privilege of serving on council
Speaker 12: for twelve years. It was greatest job of my life
Speaker 12: and I'm so honored to have done it. Congratulations to
Speaker 12: Clovermore who did win with a primary of about thirty
Speaker 12: seven percent. It's her sixth term in office. That is
Speaker 12: a remarkable term. But I think it will be interesting
Speaker 12: given that today she's gotten up and announced that she
Speaker 12: doesn't want to run for another term, and so really,
Speaker 12: will it be sort of four years of a job
Speaker 12: interview for her successor or will it be four years
Speaker 12: of governing, which is of course what Sydney needs.
Speaker 13: I think what was really unanimous.
Speaker 12: In the lead up to the City of Sydney elections
Speaker 12: was that there are some major cracks starting to emerge
Speaker 12: in the greatest city in the world, and that is
Speaker 12: Sydney Oxford Street.
Speaker 13: You know Sydney's nightlife.
Speaker 12: It's so hard to get dinner after ten o'clock at night.
Speaker 13: You know, Paul, you and I have discussed this endlessly.
Speaker 12: There's got to be more fun and we've got to
Speaker 12: bring back these incredibly significant, major strips of fun that
Speaker 12: used to be around in Sydney and used to be
Speaker 12: so thriving in the past. The homeless situation and affordable
Speaker 12: housing was also another.
Speaker 13: Significant call out.
Speaker 12: The City of Sydney has nearly eight hundred million dollars
Speaker 12: in cash in the bank, could be investing so much
Speaker 12: more to support those sleeping rafts, support more affordable housing
Speaker 12: and the Prime Minister of Australia, of course, grew up
Speaker 12: in a council owned housing property in the City of Sydney,
Speaker 12: and yet the Lord Mayor continues to reject this as
Speaker 12: a priority. She was elected on thirty seven percent.
Speaker 13: I do think. I know we're not yet at bold predictions, but.
Speaker 1: Will prediction will continue for the.
Speaker 12: Next couple of weeks. I do think she will lose
Speaker 12: her majority. I do think given the preferences and how
Speaker 12: they'll flow this time, it's quite different from last election.
Speaker 12: I do think she'll lose a majority. She'll have to
Speaker 12: negotiate with somebody.
Speaker 1: James, your bold prediction.
Speaker 10: Oh, people are going to get bombarded with political ads
Speaker 10: here in Queensland.
Speaker 8: I feel very sorry for you.
Speaker 10: I'm going to keep them to a minimum because I
Speaker 10: don't have a huge budget, but I'm sorry. The ads
Speaker 10: are going to be really relentless from this point forward.
Speaker 1: Just do one cartoon and text to do as many
Speaker 1: as you can. Thank you mate, do appreciate it. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys. We'll see you again next week. Hey, our
Speaker 1: town in grand final week, in coming to Victoria. Tell
Speaker 1: you exactly where next. No better place in Australia to
Speaker 1: be at the end of September than Melbourne for Grand
Speaker 1: Final week. Fingers cross the team you'd like to get
Speaker 1: there gets there. Minor is still alive thankfully. If you
Speaker 1: would like to join us day after the Grand Final
Speaker 1: in spring VA in Melbourne, that's what we'll be for
Speaker 1: the next outown. If you'd like to send me an email,
Speaker 1: please do so. Fill the joint now, all right, don't
Speaker 1: let the word get out for the lefties only ends,
Speaker 1: have any anything, No fill the job without people. Okay,
Speaker 1: outdound it's gonews dot com dot you. Outsound, it's Kye
Speaker 1: News dot com dot you. Now you know that I
Speaker 1: always talk about what's going on inside here, what's going
Speaker 1: on in here, about how important it is to have
Speaker 1: just a legitimate open honors, no frown mouth, just a
Speaker 1: normal chat about what's going on. And for an awful
Speaker 1: lot of people, they get really dark and really lonely,
Speaker 1: and often our conversation is about okay, those moments. But
Speaker 1: there is a fabulous resource for all of us who
Speaker 1: would like to know about the path up and out.
Speaker 1: And that is exactly what my dear friend John brogged
Speaker 1: In has done because not only his own journey, but
Speaker 1: plenty high profile Australians he's put together and had a
Speaker 1: chat to them in a thing called Profiles of Hope.
Speaker 1: All right, I make sure I keep it behind me
Speaker 1: each and every night, so you'll see it. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you how to buy it in a moment or two's time.
Speaker 1: But this is an excellent book which has got everyone
Speaker 1: from James Packer, Ian Thorpe, Preston Campbell, you name it
Speaker 1: talking about their journey back. And I please to say
Speaker 1: the great man's in the man cave.
Speaker 8: I love it.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, I love to see really good because I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this today very specifically that I did not
Speaker 1: want the froan mouth conversation right, because so often once
Speaker 1: the S word is mentor and all the rest of it, it's.
Speaker 8: Like a wet blanket, isn't it. Yeah, just brings everything down.
Speaker 8: And that's respectful, that's appropriate. But we forget to tell
Speaker 8: people is the way through correct And look, we've had
Speaker 8: an enlightenment in the last twenty years. You know, you
Speaker 8: and I are just old enough to remember the last
Speaker 8: twenty years. But my point is, you know, as a
Speaker 8: journey this was so different how you talked about mental health,
Speaker 8: so was like everything twenty thirty years ago, you wouldn't
Speaker 8: talk about suicide at all on the show and mental health,
Speaker 8: you know, anxiety depression began to get talked about in
Speaker 8: the right way, and we talk about it really well now,
Speaker 8: and we hear the stories of footy stars and other people,
Speaker 8: you know, sports people who come back and learn to
Speaker 8: live with that, but we don't hear the stories of
Speaker 8: how people get through suicide. And of course you can't.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's self evident. You can't interview somebody who
Speaker 8: took their own life. We'd love to know those journeys,
Speaker 8: but we can't. So what we've got in the book
Speaker 8: is fifteen stories of people who live with suicidality who
Speaker 8: made a plan to kill themselves or in fact, have
Speaker 8: I tried to take their own life and survived. And
Speaker 8: we have to give the message after the heavy blanket
Speaker 8: that falls out of the discussion about how can you
Speaker 8: get through this, because at the beginning and the end
Speaker 8: of the day, we want people to be alive and
Speaker 8: that's not a value judgment. And Pauly, we want to
Speaker 8: normalize missal illness. So there's nothing wrong. You've got a
Speaker 8: problem with your kidney, you've got a problem with your brain.
Speaker 8: There's nothing wrong. We actually don't want to normalize suicide
Speaker 8: because we want people to get through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I love here is and again you
Speaker 1: know there's an angle in anywhere in this book, right.
Speaker 1: This is why dare I say one for you one
Speaker 1: for one to give away? Because the stories are from
Speaker 1: business people, to footy players, to you know, you name it, right,
Speaker 1: so there's a way into this conversation. So obviously the
Speaker 1: James Packert story well known, Yes, out and about I
Speaker 1: think that was so vitally important. Good to see people
Speaker 1: like Ian Thorpe. Was there something that they all had
Speaker 1: in common? At the end of the conversation with you, well,
Speaker 1: not all.
Speaker 8: Of them, but for many of them, I asked this
Speaker 8: interesting question, did you have to get to this point
Speaker 8: in order to come back again? Did you actually have
Speaker 8: to get to the point of suicide to bounce back again?
Speaker 8: Jackie Lamby says yes straight away. Nick Sherry, the former
Speaker 8: Laby minister, says yes, but I wish I didn't have to.
Speaker 8: And the young Blake Matthew Carajuana in the wheelchair, who's
Speaker 8: an inspiration of inspirations in this book, he says, yes
Speaker 8: as well, so for many people. And I guess that's
Speaker 8: my story as well. You know, I knew something was
Speaker 8: going to go wrong and I probably had to get
Speaker 8: there to turn it around. There's a great farmer Peter Maloney. Great, yeah,
Speaker 8: you love the bush, this great farmer mate. Can I
Speaker 8: come and see you? He said, oh, I'll come and
Speaker 8: see you. I said where? He said, I just ate
Speaker 8: our strive from to one. No, just around the corner
Speaker 8: and loved it. Yeah. Yeah, And he's changed his life
Speaker 8: now and he's out talking all these other farmers and
Speaker 8: he's extraordinary. But he's changed his life to two meditations
Speaker 8: every day in a three minute ice bath.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: And I said, what do you do to you get
Speaker 8: in the bath? He said, it's an old deep free
Speaker 8: It's a fantastic I love it. But people who changed
Speaker 8: their lives forever, and you know, some of them do
Speaker 8: extraordinary things. And to be honest, some of the stories,
Speaker 8: they're just still here. Of course. You know, they're still fighting,
Speaker 8: they're still battling. That's probably partly James's story. And he'd
Speaker 8: say that himself, that he is still you know, he's
Speaker 8: not perfect. He's still battling through buddies here and that's
Speaker 8: what we want. So yeah, there's that thing that did
Speaker 8: I have to get this low to get out of
Speaker 8: it and to get high back again, And I think
Speaker 8: that's it as well.
Speaker 1: So obviously a significant connection that you have to Lifeline.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the books connection.
Speaker 8: So all of the royalties from the book will go
Speaker 8: to Lifeline as a donation. I don't make any bucks
Speaker 8: out of it. It all goes to Lifeline. But there are
Speaker 8: great that's because Lifeline, Paul, We've talked about Lifelin how
Speaker 8: many times. The biggest day in Lifeline's history was the
Speaker 8: day after the stabbings at Bondi four thousand, three hundred
Speaker 8: plus day last week four thousand, three hundred, four thousand
Speaker 8: and three. Now, as you and I know, there's two sides.
Speaker 8: One is there's a lot of people in crisis and
Speaker 8: stress and risk of suicide, but thank god they're calling.
Speaker 8: And during COVID, Paul, when the calls went through the earth,
Speaker 8: the best call and it's your age group, was Bloke
Speaker 8: ring In saying, not only is this the first time
Speaker 8: I've called Lifeline. I never thought I'd need a Lifeline
Speaker 8: and that was a big tick for me. Because that's
Speaker 8: what we've been saying for sixty years.
Speaker 1: And you've got the word out. Seriously, this is a
Speaker 1: beautiful book, profiles in hope, excellent conversations and all I
Speaker 1: think were possible because of this great man. I love you, John,
Speaker 1: I love your journey every day. You're a beautiful friend.
Speaker 1: Hit the book. We'll see you tomorrow night. Here's the
Speaker 1: Royal Report on sky News.