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Speaker 1: Apogee Production. How don't think was it for you on

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Speaker 1: your first shift when you worked there? Your first night

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Speaker 1: working there? M hm, and you've never managed before in

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Speaker 1: your life. You're managing ow one hundred girls. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any help doing that or or is it just.

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Speaker 2: No no. I mean I have a like a senior

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Speaker 2: manager to basically show me everything. And it took me

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Speaker 2: like three months until I was capable of at least

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Speaker 2: doing the shift fully, you know, the responsibilities and of stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I needed to learn everything. The first shift was like.

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Speaker 2: Really to see what this is all about, to maybe

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Speaker 2: say hi to some girls, to see the systems that

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Speaker 2: we use. I guess we use like a lot of

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Speaker 2: IT systems, you know, like a CRM reports, those kinds

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Speaker 2: of stuff. So I needed to at least like I

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Speaker 2: have a sort of concept like how I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be working. It was the first and I remember I

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Speaker 2: was like extremely tired because we were during the night.

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Speaker 3: So our ship.

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Speaker 2: Starts at six sorry seven pm and a week finished

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Speaker 2: six am in the morning, so I remember being extremely tired.

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Speaker 3: It was something completely different.

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Speaker 1: So what what happens? There's a hundred rooms, right because

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to pitch it now because

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Speaker 1: it's this This place is so secretive. I've looked up

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Speaker 1: and you do not want to tell anybody where it is.

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Speaker 1: How the fuck I would find it? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to pitch it. Is it an old place?

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Speaker 1: It must be like an old hotel or something.

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Speaker 2: It's not at all, but I mean it's like three

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Speaker 2: years old. So I don't know if you consider this old, because.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to pitch you, like adred

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Speaker 1: one hundred bedrooms plus rooms like service rooms and all

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Speaker 1: like that. How the hell, How the hell do you

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Speaker 1: keep account for all them bills or what if they

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Speaker 1: need help?

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Speaker 3: So every room has at least one panic button. We

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Speaker 3: have our own security.

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Speaker 2: We can call the police anytime if there is any

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Speaker 2: problem because we operate clearly, so we don't need to fight.

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Speaker 3: So but the most important thing is the alarm, the

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Speaker 3: panic button.

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Speaker 2: So the girls are instructed to press it if they

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Speaker 2: will feel the situation is like going, you know, not

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Speaker 2: in a way that they would like to, or if

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Speaker 2: there's like any kind of like heated arguments.

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Speaker 3: That they don't want to continue with. So they are basically.

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Speaker 2: Instructed to press the panning button because I always tell

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Speaker 2: them it's like it's better to press it for nothing

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Speaker 2: then find yourself in a situation when it's very hard

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Speaker 2: for you to handle it.

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Speaker 3: But it didn't happen so often.

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Speaker 2: I mean the alarm situation, it's it happens like one

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Speaker 2: twice a month, but it's like nothing.

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Speaker 3: The most the most situations.

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Speaker 2: The most common one is that the guions the service

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Speaker 2: is over and he doesn't want to leave. So he's like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. I would like to stay here more.

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Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, well you can, but you need to pay,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't you, I want to stay here.

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Speaker 2: So this had a situation the or the guy falls

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Speaker 2: asleep after you know, the service and she doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to wake him up or something, so she just.

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Speaker 1: So, you've never had any kind of trouble ever since

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Speaker 1: you've been waking there.

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Speaker 2: I've been there nine years, almost nine years, and since

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Speaker 2: i'm there, it's like never anything serious happened, which is

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Speaker 2: like part of it is because we are too big

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Speaker 2: for something serious to happen. Because if you if you

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Speaker 2: want to harm a sex worker, you will aim for

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Speaker 2: independent ones because she's there alone, there's like no security.

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Speaker 2: The police will be like very hard for her to

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Speaker 2: call the police. But we are you know, we have

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Speaker 2: the security pending buttons.

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Speaker 3: The police are.

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Speaker 2: Very quickly, so if you go on to harm somebody

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Speaker 2: as a client, you will not go to the cloud.

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Speaker 1: How many how many securities you have in that building?

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Speaker 2: So we have like one team of security guys and

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Speaker 2: usually it's like five.

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Speaker 3: Or four of them.

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Speaker 2: Three if it's like very slow night like Monday Tuesdays,

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Speaker 2: those kind of slow night too.

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Speaker 1: Am I am? I allowed to ask what country this

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Speaker 3: You your location?

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Speaker 1: So you are secretive with Before I get this question,

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Speaker 1: how do if I'm overseas and I want to find

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Speaker 1: this place, how the hell do I find it?

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Speaker 2: I think you will find it just like by walking

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Speaker 2: in this city.

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Speaker 3: It's very big, you know, as it said.

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't even know what contating exactly.

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Speaker 1: So how so how do I find it?

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Speaker 3: Will definitely find it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you will be in the capit all of

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Speaker 2: this of this country, you will definitely find it.

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Speaker 1: You Okay, I'll ask you this then? Why why so

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Speaker 1: secretive with it?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons is that I like to protect

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Speaker 2: the privacy of the workers and the employees of the

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Speaker 2: company because I'm very open about what I do, but

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Speaker 2: not everybody is, so it's so open about what they do,

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Speaker 2: so I wouldn't so like, I don't want to place

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Speaker 2: the the the sex workers that works with us to

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Speaker 2: the situation when there would be a guy you know

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Speaker 2: and be like, ah, you are the girl.

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Speaker 3: From the instagram. Oh.

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Speaker 2: And also like when I when I started with the Instagram,

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Speaker 2: I just did it for myself. I was feeling like

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Speaker 2: a little bit burned out, and then it kind of

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Speaker 2: got big. And at one point I was like, I

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Speaker 2: need to tell this to the owners because I don't

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 3: Do this as a secret from them. And they were

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Speaker 3: like super that you know, I have this thing.

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Speaker 2: But they told me like, look, you can in the film,

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Speaker 2: in the in the club.

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Speaker 3: You can film like anywhere, but just this close the location.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll go. I'll go to my question that

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask. With this property and this

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Speaker 1: business being so big in this country, in this city,

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Speaker 1: has any kind of gangsters tried to take over this place? No,

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Speaker 1: have any affiliation, have any affiliation of it. The only

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Speaker 1: reason I ask is a lot of brothels over here

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Speaker 1: are run by underworld figures. Okay, so that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: asking the question, Like gangsters and all like that run

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Speaker 1: brothels here.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, we don't do this in here.

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Speaker 2: I don't hang out with other managers from different clubs.

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Speaker 2: I know at least like one of them from different

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Speaker 2: club he was arrested for drug dealing.

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Speaker 3: So this is like one of the.

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Speaker 2: Reasons why I don't hang out with them so much.

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Speaker 2: You know, our company, when we started or when the

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Speaker 2: owners started with this business, they they decide to do

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Speaker 2: it differently. So this is one of the reasons why

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Speaker 2: us as a managers, we need to have psychology, like

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Speaker 2: psychological degree.

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Speaker 3: So we did this pretty differently than the other club.

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Speaker 2: And since we are so big, you know, there's like

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Speaker 2: no no gangsters type of the thing going on.

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Speaker 1: So the only reason I asked you that, as I said,

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Speaker 1: a lot of brothels and strip clubs in Australia even

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Speaker 1: in the UK, as I know, are run by mafia

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Speaker 1: underworld figures, gangsters. Yeah, that's why I was asking. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Now if you.

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Speaker 2: Would meet the owners, they are like such a sweet

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Speaker 2: guys like you wouldn't never tell that they run a brothel.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So okay, then how do you stop drugs coming

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Speaker 1: into your venue.

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Speaker 2: We actually never had a situation when there would be

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Speaker 2: like two dealers coming in because we would notice, you know,

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Speaker 2: if there would be a customer and he would sell

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Speaker 2: drugs to other customers, we would pretty much notice. You know,

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Speaker 2: we have like CCTVs everywhere. Also, the security they throughout

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Speaker 2: of the night, they just chicky places. Also the women

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Speaker 2: they are when we are accepting them, we always tell

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Speaker 2: them it's like, if you want to take the drugs,

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Speaker 2: don't do it in here.

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Speaker 3: Because we really you really don't want this thing to

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Speaker 3: be happening here.

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Speaker 2: But of course, sometimes you know, the customers, they are

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Speaker 2: coming in and they maybe want to take some bookin

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Speaker 2: or something, and they usually need to bring this with

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Speaker 2: them because there is like you don't sell it of course. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so sometimes when they are like drugs, the customers are

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Speaker 2: already coming in and they maybe have some something small

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Speaker 1: You know what, you must have the most professional run

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Speaker 1: brothel in the world, because I act in se at

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Speaker 1: because every brophele, I know, every night life person who

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Speaker 1: owns a nightclub or anything in Australia has dealers coming

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Speaker 1: in and having have them dealers have workers in that

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Speaker 1: venue running for you. I can't believe no one is

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Speaker 1: doing in your venue. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Remember there was this one situation. It's like many years ago.

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Speaker 3: We had this bartender and he was like very sweet

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Speaker 2: Then we like after after one week, we found out

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Speaker 2: that he was trying to deal the drugs there.

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Speaker 3: So then we just tell him like, sorry, men, but

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Speaker 3: you work here. This is the thing that we don't

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