1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On Scaring Wilds Australia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: This is the winder Panety Show. Good evening and welcome 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 2: to the reader. Panicky Show coming up tonight. Further fractures 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: in the Albanesi government with a Labor senator defying the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Prime Minister with inflammatory comments about the Israel Hamas War. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray joins me shortly to discuss migration rates and 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: why the will of the majority is consistently ignored. Hollywood 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: A listers come out in support for canceled Oscar winner 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey. I'll speak to Kinsey Schofield about that shortly 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: and what is the most powerful interest group we've seen 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: in this country. Nick Kata will join me to discuss that. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: But it's time to bring in Sky News contributor Kosher 13 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Gata for the day's big stories. Kosher Albia talking to 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: Douglas Murray shortly about migration numbers. It's a massive issue 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: across Europe, in the US, here in Australia and the 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: ob and Easy government is under intense pressure to drastically 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: cut net overseas migration from the record five hundred and 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand we had last year to a promise 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty thousand next year. But as Pauline 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: Hanson noted on x, Labor doesn't have a great track 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: record in predicting net migration numbers accurately. Over the past 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: two years, migration has reached a record nine hundred and 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: twenty three thousand, which is two hundred and eight thousand 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: more than Labor anticipated. Hanson wrote two questions kosher I, 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: can labor quit their high migration habit? They've seemed to 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: have relied on that, and they're not allowing Coalition governments 27 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: have also indulged in that activity. And can we trust 28 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: their figures? Are their predictions so far out that it's 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: almost a fantasy number at the moment. 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Probably a little bit of both. So the discrepancy in 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: the numbers just fits what we've seen with government. They 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: haven't exactly covered themselves in glory in terms of their 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: ability to report numbers accurately and model as we've seen 34 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: in many venues. The more cynical interpretation would be that 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: maybe they well knew, but this is a very unpopular topic, 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: so it's easier to, you know, sort of dampen the 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: expectation a little bit and then say, ooh, sorry, even miscalculated. 38 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: But be that as it may. Senator Hanson's point is 39 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: very well taken. This is an issue all around the world. 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: As you said, it's the issue of our time. And 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: those numbers nine hundred and twenty three thousand is roughly 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: the population Canberra. So a whole canbra is going to 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: be hosted in Sydney and in Melbourne, and that's kind 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: of where these migrants concentrate and all the stress that 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: puts on infrastructure, on everything else, not to mention the 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: fabric of the culture. And this is another topic that's 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: very timely right now in terms of how these different 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: groups come in. And then there's this more strife between 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: groups ethnically as well. So all of that is a 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: predictable consequence of this. Constituents don't want it, and yet 51 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: it continues. 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Well you can say why the abes the government is 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: pledging to drastically cut these numbers. They are getting prepared 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: for the next federal election and they know this is 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: an enormous issue out there. Now, let's talk about labor. 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Senator Fatima Payman, who is calling on the Alberanza government 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: to sanction and disinvest from Israel, accusing the country of 58 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: genocide against the Palestinian people. 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: How many mass graves need to be uncovered before we 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: say enough? How many images of bloody limbs of murdered 61 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: children must we see? How many horrors need to be 62 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: repeated before we feel that this should end. How many 63 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: Palestinian lives are enough to call this violence against them terrorism? 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Koshasha also use the phrase from the river to the sea, 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: which the Prime Minister has been clear to condemn, to 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: say that it's a statement that promotes violence. And here 67 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: has got a senator saying it. 68 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: He's got a problem on his hands, as do his 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: counterparts everywhere. So I look at the senator, the same 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: thing with the United States Congress with Shida Tali bilan Omar. 71 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: It comes downstream from immigration, that topic we talked about again. 72 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: This is some of those longer term consequences, whether intended 73 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: or unintended, coming home to roost in many ways, but 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: right within the left side of politics and liberal democracies, 75 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: it's really coming home to roost because there's a huge 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: refracturing and realignment of the fault lines in that party. 77 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: And I think that colors what you see in terms 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: of their positions with respect to Israel with respect to 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: protesters with all of that, because they're kind of speaking. 80 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: They've become a two headed beast in their way and 81 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: they're speaking to two factions that don't agree on this 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: issue that's there. 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: The Biden administration has got these issues as well and 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: talking about the left of politics that it Ilyidia Thorpe 85 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: has posted this image of herself with the message got 86 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: my cafear on for Parliament today. Power to all the 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: students camped down and everyone that's been coming to rallies 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: and standing up for justice. Seamewondovic Labor for banning affairs 89 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: in Parliament. There a real gammon lot. They are free Palestine. Really, 90 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: the Australian Upper House is disgracing itself. What did Paul 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Keating call them an unrepresentative swell? I think it was 92 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: being kind. Now let's move on to Albo evicting one 93 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: of his tenants from one of his investment properties. This 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: is an incredible story. Jim Flanagan was handled an eviction 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: notice on the eighth of May to vacate the three 96 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: bedroom townhouse where he's lived for four years. The PM 97 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: has said I've had him in the property with the 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: rent being about half. What is the market rent to 99 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: keep him in for longer. So this is very interesting. Indeed, 100 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: the PM must be a saint just giving away free 101 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: rent there essentially. But I do question the wisdom of 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: evicting a tenant during his prime minister ship. You would 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: just think, yeah, sure, if you were an everyday ordinary 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: person who wasn't in public office, you may make this decision. 105 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: But the optics here are not great. 106 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: That's a very interesting point. You could say that it's principled, 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and he's saying, hey, if you know, I want to 108 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: evict my turn, and I'm going to do that, and 109 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I guess that's right. You could say it would be 110 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: nice if Earlider showed principle consistency on all sorts of 111 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: other issues, including ones that don't directly affect them. But 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a fair argument on the 113 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: facts of the case. It's as right as a landlord 114 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to do that. But the optics are interesting, and he's 115 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: injected something that becomes a proxy story for all sorts 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: of issues people have with housing and rent prices and 117 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: cost of living and all of that. They can project 118 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: onto those pain points, and he's invited that upon himself. 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: And this is very different to that image of himself 120 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: that is cultivated. You know, he grew up in a 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: commission house. Yeah, he's Labour's socialist left faction, and yet 122 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: he's got multimillion dollar investment properties. I'm not saying there's 123 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: anything wrong with that. I'm just saying when you fight 124 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: the culture wars and also you know, pay this image 125 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: of fighting the Tories and the rich don't do this 126 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: and the rich don't do that, and. 127 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: You're part of the parlor around the world. The zip 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: code outside DC is the wealthy a ship code in 129 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: the world, one of them. 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: It's the same same point absolutely Now. 131 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: Liberals Senator Alex Antik has called out big tech companies 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: who employ former intelligence employees and conspire with governments to 133 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: censor and ban speech. 134 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: Big tech is the perfect intersection between government, the ruling 135 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: class and the intelligence services along with their mates in 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 5: big business. You see what they want you to see. 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: Australia is at the tip of the sphere of a 138 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 5: global censorship movement, and I suspect that many who are 139 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: involved are blissfully unaware and think that they're doing the 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 5: right thing by shutting down and deleting so called miss 141 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: and disinformation. But let's be clear, the government isn't thinking 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 5: about your safety and it doesn't care about misinformation. What 143 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: it cares about is making sure that you see in 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: approved message at all times. 145 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: What is said in Parliament this week has been established 146 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: by investigative journalist Kosher, including Michael Schellenberger, who we've interviewed 147 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: on this program. This is a huge issue because these 148 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: platforms are now the digital public square. This is where 149 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: people discuss issues, but this is where they find out information. 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: It is He's one of the few elected leaders direct 151 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: enough and brave enough to say that it really is 152 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: a convergence of all these power structures. As he mentioned, 153 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: it's a big tech. It's government people who eat in 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: a bedit like the E Safety Commissioner and others, and 155 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: just other people at the top the ruling class. I think, 156 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: as he put it, is the issue. We've called it 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: the battlefield of the century. In a way, it's another 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: day in that movement. The problem is that for a 159 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: country like Australia, certainly we shouldn't be eating in a 160 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: betting things like with the E Safety Commissioner, but there's 161 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: little recourse, little remedy. We really have in terms of 162 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: trying to break up that power that big tech plays 163 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: in it, since they're all headquartered in the United States, 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the belluy of the Beast, where something has to happen 165 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: along the lines of anti trust law, along the lines 166 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: of Section two thirty, where they're not penalized. 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Problem is, we seem to be among some of the 168 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: worst in the free world in suppressing free speech. So 169 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: not only are we not fighting it, we seem to 170 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: be one of the worst in aiding and abetting it. Koshagator, 171 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Nexs Evening. Joining 172 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: me now is the author of international best sellers The 173 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: Strange Death of Europe, The Madness of Crowds, and his 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: latest work, The War on the West. Douglas Murray. Let's 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: start with immigration. It's a big issue in Australia. We're 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: seeing record numbers of migrants coming in despite polls showing 177 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: the majority of Australians want to see immigration numbers drop. 178 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: And that is also the overwhelming sentiment across Europe, with 179 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: a recent poll taken in March and April this year 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: showing great opposition to not only illegal immigration but also 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: the current volume of migrants coming into Europe, more than 182 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: seventy percent said their country takes in too many migrants, 183 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: and that includes countries as diverses are Sweden to Spain 184 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: to Austria. The Greeks are the most opposed to their 185 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: migration numbers. Ninety percent there say that country takes too 186 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: many And yet Douglas, the will of the majority seems 187 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: to be completely ignored, whether it's Australia or Europe, when 188 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: it comes to migration policy, majority opinion doesn't seem to 189 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: matter much. 190 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely reach and these latest findings in Australia and across 191 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 6: Europe are replicated of course in America. I mean most 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 6: people in the developed world, most people in the countries 193 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 6: that people want to come to, are aware that we 194 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 6: just can't take in all of the people who would 195 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 6: like to come to our countries. I mean, Australia is 196 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: in a much better position societally, financial, socially, and much 197 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 6: more than most countries in the region. And it's the 198 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: same with Europe. Europe's more prosperous, infinitely more prosperous, even 199 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 6: at the lowest rung of the ladder than most of 200 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 6: the countries that people come to therefrom and it's the 201 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 6: same with America, with Central America and Southern America. And 202 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 6: so the publics know this, but the political response, as 203 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 6: you just refer to it, seems to always be, whoever 204 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 6: you have in power, more of the same. I mean, 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 6: there are occasionally prime ministers who and presidents who are 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: able to slow down the flow, but even then it's 207 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: to a barely manageable level. And what these political leaders 208 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 6: don't realize is that the public know more than them. 209 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 6: We the public sense in the decline in trust, in 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 6: the decline in safety, in all sorts of things. We 211 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 6: sense what the changes are that happen not when migration happens, 212 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 6: but when too much migration happens, too fast, and often 213 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 6: of the wrong kind. And I think you know, this 214 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: is the big challenge of the twenty first century. So far, 215 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 6: we haven't really thrown up politicians capable of dealing with it. 216 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: And it seems those who screamed the loudest about threats 217 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: to democracy very silent when it comes to the will 218 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: of the majority here being ignored. In fact, they seem 219 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: to be doing a lot to obstruct the will of 220 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: the majority. Now let's talk about President Joe Biden, who 221 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: is repeating a verifiable lie about inflation. He's repeated a 222 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: lot of verifiable lies over the years. Is saying that 223 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: it was nine percent when he came to office, when 224 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: it was actually one point four percent. Karine Jean Pierre 225 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: was asked to explain why the presidents repeated this lie. 226 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 7: We got a lot of incoming on this yesterday, and 227 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 7: look what the president was. The point that he was 228 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 7: making is that the factors that caused inflation was in 229 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 7: place when he walked in into the administration when he 230 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 7: took office. As you know, the pandemic caused inflation around 231 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 7: the world. 232 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: Douglas. I know the US has much bigger issues to 233 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: deal with right now, the border crisis, cost of living, crime, 234 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: But a president who can't stop lying about verifiable data, 235 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not something to be overlooked. 236 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 6: Well, I would just say that, you know, the point 237 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 6: of the White House spokesperson is meant to be to 238 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 6: sort of be the mouthpiece of the president. Joe Biden 239 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 6: has found a mouthpiece in Queen Jean Pierre, which I 240 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 6: think even he must wonder at times whether what she's 241 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 6: saying isn't gobbledegook or not. She's by no means the 242 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 6: best interpreter of Joe Biden's statements, and goodness known, sometimes 243 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 6: Joe Biden could do with a good interpreter. Yes, I mean, 244 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 6: this is the sort of behavior which if it happened 245 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 6: under a Republican president, it would all be you know, 246 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 6: fact checking, the fact checkers and the Washington Posts to 247 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 6: be explaining to everyone how democracy dies in darkness, and 248 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 6: the BBC's Verify fact check would be on to it. 249 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 6: But you know, old Joe Biden, Oh, it doesn't matter, 250 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 6: and it can all be explained away incoherently by his 251 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: by his spokesperson. 252 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I even I felt a little bit sorry for 253 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: her because I had you defend that. And yet but 254 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: her explanation did not help the president or herself in 255 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: any way. 256 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 6: It could have been worse, could explained. It could have 257 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 6: been explained by Kamala Harris, who would have who would 258 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 6: have explained that the thing is that that the past 259 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 6: has just gone before the present and the future is 260 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: yet to come. And in a very real sense, the 261 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 6: present is before the future and that's why inflation is there. 262 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: And then we'll just have mad cackling for about sixty 263 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: seconds after that. But let's stick with the Biden White House. 264 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: They're in coherent and inconsistent decision making. Douglas, you've written 265 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: about this about how the president says something that's very 266 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: sound one minute and the next day he does something 267 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: that's completely at odds with that. You talked about the 268 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: wise words he said last week about Israel, and then 269 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: within hours he was attempting to prevent Israel's victory in 270 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: Gaza by withholding arm shipments. How do you explained this 271 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: erratic behavior. 272 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 6: Well, it's very strange. I mean, the best interpretation of 273 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 6: it is for some time, and you and I have 274 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 6: discussed this before, read it for sometime. The President has 275 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 6: talked a bit of one talk and acted in another way. Now, 276 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: those of us who want Israel to win in guards 277 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: and against Hamas, sometimes you know that's the red has 278 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 6: been unpleasant, but the actions have been supportive. So, for instance, 279 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 6: at various times President Biden, we presume, has sent out, 280 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 6: for instance, Chuck Schumer to be critical of the Israeli reaction. 281 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 6: Occasionally Joe Biden has been critical himself, but he's done 282 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 6: that in order it seems to plicate a bit of 283 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 6: the base in his own party keep the students from 284 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 6: going bananas all the time on campus and hope to 285 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 6: get in in November, whilst at the same time supporting 286 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 6: America's ally Israel. The thing that was different this past 287 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 6: week has been that it flipped exactly the other way around. 288 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 6: The rhetoric from the President on the day was very good, 289 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 6: very supportive, all about standing by our allies and all 290 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 6: that sort of thing, and then in the evening here 291 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: he stopped the delivery of armed supplies to Israel. Now 292 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 6: that is that is a very serious development because a 293 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 6: lot of a lot of the sort of the talk, 294 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 6: the chaff of the media cycle in America, you know, 295 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: is performative. It's for the base, it's for a certain 296 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 6: bit of the base. It's for the three or four 297 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 6: people watching some of the smaller left wing networks. But 298 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 6: the really difficult thing here, as I say, is that 299 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 6: he actually he actually did something which he had always 300 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: said he wouldn't do. He's always held himself out as 301 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 6: a great ally of Israel in its fight for survival 302 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 6: and its fight for victory over its enemies, and here 303 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: he is in charge in the White House with holding 304 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 6: arms at a time when Israel is pretty close to 305 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 6: victory against him. As how you can say you're an 306 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: ally and you're with someone til the bitter end, only 307 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 6: to drop out at about last orders. I just do 308 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 6: not know. 309 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: And that's what worries me, because, as we know, actions 310 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: are more important than words, and he has flipped that dynamic. 311 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: And what would happen to Israel if they don't have 312 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: made defeat her mass after seven months of this war, 313 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: if if in the end Hamas isn't completely eradicated. 314 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 6: Well, my view is, and I think it's a view 315 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 6: that a lot of Israeli politicians and others feel, a 316 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 6: lot of the Israeli public feel, is that you cannot 317 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 6: destroy eighty percent of Hamaz. You cannot leave them in 318 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 6: you cannot take them out of Gaza City, and you 319 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 6: cannot take them out of a set of other towns 320 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: and so on and leave them intact in Raffa. And 321 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 6: Raffa is reckoned to be, not just where the remaining 322 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 6: Israeli hostages are held, hostages who the rest of the 323 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 6: world seems to have forgotten about, but the Israeli people 324 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 6: quite rightly haven't. And there's no point in leaving that 325 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 6: there and leaving the leaving those people there and leaving 326 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 6: the heads of Hamaz, including it seems Sinoir, the mastermind 327 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 6: of the seventh in Raffa. All it means is like 328 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 6: putting out eighty percent of the fire, that you will 329 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 6: that the Israelis will withdraw from Gaza and Hamas will 330 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: grow back, will continue to subjugate the Palestinian population in Gaza, 331 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 6: will continue to enrich themselves and will prepare for the 332 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 6: next attack against Israel. And my prediction is that these 333 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 6: you know, every other year wars that Hamaz has been 334 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: provoking since it took control of the Gaza, would just 335 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: go on. In that scenario, I think it is much 336 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 6: better for the Israelis public and indeed for the Palestinian 337 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 6: public in Gaza, that Hamas are done for, that it's over, 338 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 6: and that other partners in the region can help in 339 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 6: whatever way they can to rebuild the society there. It 340 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 6: is not going to be an easy job, but it 341 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 6: will be infinitely harder if Hamaz still have any kind 342 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 6: of a stronghold. So preventing Israeli victory once again would 343 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 6: lead only to another set of cycles of conflict, and 344 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 6: I don't think that's desirable. 345 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: No, it's not desirable for either party. Is As you explained. 346 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: One thing we have seen in Israel though, is the 347 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: willingness of its people to fight for the country. Young 348 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: people are willing to risk their lives to defend their country. 349 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: That's not a sentiment that is shared in the West. 350 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: In the UK, only a quarter of young people twenty 351 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: seven percent said they were willing to be enlisted to 352 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: defend their country. And one doesn't I guess Douglas seek 353 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: to protect what one doesn't value. And there's certainly a 354 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: deep sense of self loathing among many young people for 355 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: their own country, whether we're talking about the UK, the 356 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: US or right here in Australia. What can be done 357 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: to combat that? I feel that's such a destructive force 358 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: with all sorts of long term dangers. 359 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: Well, it has huge long term dangers. And I mean 360 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 6: I spoke about this a bit when I was in 361 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 6: Australia recently, but I mean the recent referendum in Australia 362 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 6: was a very very important blow to the people who 363 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: would like to make all people in West and democracies, 364 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 6: only in Western democracies feel utterly wretched about everything about us, 365 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 6: to make everybody in the majority feel that we're usurpers 366 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 6: and colonizers and genocidists, and all of these other outrageous claims, 367 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: always claims made against the most free and the most 368 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 6: fair societies on Earth. But this has been done for 369 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 6: more than a generation. Now. You tell young Australians that 370 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 6: they have no right to the land. You tell young 371 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 6: Americans that they're they're just there because they usurped the 372 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 6: native peoples. You tell Europeans, even when they are the 373 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 6: native peoples, that although they are the native peoples, they 374 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: should be themselves userped go on and on like that, 375 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 6: And of course, of course you're going to have a 376 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 6: lot of young people who think, well, why on Earth 377 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 6: would I risk my life for a country I've been 378 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: told it's rotten from the beginning. I think we need 379 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 6: to turn this whole thing around, and I think it 380 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: can be turned around. The young Israelis have shown it 381 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 6: can be turned around. They've shown that when it really 382 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 6: comes to brutal reality in your face, you can stand 383 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 6: up and fight, and the young Israelis have I hope 384 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: that it never comes to that for young Australians and 385 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: Americans and Canadians and British and Europeans. But if it 386 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 6: did that we would be tested, and I think a 387 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 6: lot of people would fail that test because they've been 388 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 6: taught to fail that test. 389 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 4: They have. 390 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: Man, we've had this poison in academia and elsewhere for decades. 391 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: So I'm glad you you believe it can be turned around. 392 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: I do have my doubts. Now before you go, I've 393 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: got to ask you about this ongoing sham trial of 394 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump. It's continuing in Manhattan. We've had 395 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: Stormy Daniels testifyer much of a testimony, salacious details that 396 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: have completely relevant to the case. We've had serial Purjura 397 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: and Michael Cohen understand, and it seems everyone is resigned 398 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: to the fact that this is some sort of a 399 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: show trial. It's a political case as much as anything. 400 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: Former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy wrote in The New 401 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: York Post that New Yorkers should be outraged at the 402 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: mockery District Attorney Alvin Bragg is making of the state's 403 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: legal system as the entire country looks on Douglas. The 404 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: entire country is looking on but whatever the Democrats are 405 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: trying to achieve here seems to be backfiring. Because the 406 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: polls are pretty clear Trump is increasing his lead, particularly 407 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 2: in those crucial swing states. 408 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's an extraordinary miscalculation by Democrat prosecutors and others. 409 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 6: As you say, as these trials go on, Trump's lead 410 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: seems to strengthen. Some people say, might wonder why that is, 411 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 6: and I think it's got It's a couple of things. 412 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 6: One is, a lot of Americans have had themselves, have 413 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: had bad experiences with the justice system, and so the 414 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 6: idea that the justice system can be in some way 415 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 6: rigged is a claim that they're sort of open to 416 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 6: in a way that I think in Australia and Britain 417 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 6: we sort of wouldn't be. But the second is that 418 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 6: you see people like Da Bragg effectively putting on a 419 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 6: trial in search of a crime. And that's what this 420 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 6: that's what this trial has been. It's a trial in 421 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 6: search of a crime. And Stormy Daniels took the stand 422 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 6: not because she had anything new to say, although she 423 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 6: did actually contradict previous testimony she'd given, but because of 424 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 6: course it was meant to humiliate Donald Trump. There were 425 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 6: salacious details and you know, frankly, I mean most people 426 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 6: would be humiliated to hear even these allegations made against 427 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 6: him against themselves. Trump as ever amazingly sort of has 428 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 6: this ability to brush it off. If I were the 429 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 6: Democrats and others, I would start to be worrying about 430 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 6: this whole tactic, this whole tactic of let's take him 431 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 6: out by judicial means. There's all sorts of criticisms that 432 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 6: can be made in every direction here, But the ultimate 433 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: issue in America is the people. The people get to decide. 434 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 6: They get to decide who to vote for, and eventually 435 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 6: who they do vote for. It's not up to Da Bragg, 436 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: it's not up to anyone else. It's up to the 437 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 6: American public and they may yet surprise the world. 438 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 8: Well. 439 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: I think that's what the Democrats are scared of that 440 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I want the American public to decide. And I think 441 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: they were counting on a criminal conviction sealing the deal. 442 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: But I don't think even if that eventually is it's 443 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: going to make a difference. Douglas Murray, thank you so 444 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: much for your time this. 445 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 6: Evening, Great pleasures always. 446 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: Thank you still to come and lefties losing us pass? 447 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: What is the most powerful interest group we've seen in 448 00:25:53,359 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 2: this country? Nick Kta joins me from Finland. Welcome back. 449 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: It's time for lefties losing it. And I've featured this 450 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 2: transactivist and self indulgent narcissist previously. You'll remember him because 451 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: he harassed waiters who misgentered him. 452 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 9: Are you she her pronouns, I'm not sir. Yeah, Like 453 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 9: it's like a knife in the heart. 454 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 10: I also did specifically ask ahead of time not to 455 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 10: be called sir. 456 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just gonna go. 457 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the sweet water start, okay. 458 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 9: I mean it is always like a knife. It always 459 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 9: hurts every single time. I was wondering if there's a 460 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 9: manager I could talk to you about something that happens. Yeah, 461 00:26:50,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 9: I was called sir. Yeah, I'm not sir, not sir, 462 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 9: not sir. 463 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 10: But the guy who dropped me the food off he 464 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 10: called me sir twice in a row. 465 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, that attention seeking activist has taken a break from 466 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: complaining about minimum weight workers misgendering him to film this 467 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: depravity at Disneyland, of all places. Listen to this description 468 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: of forthcoming surgeries. 469 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 9: I'm going to get banned from Disney. That's where we're 470 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 9: about to get banned from Disney. 471 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 10: Last summer I got my kick Pops removed and the 472 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 10: plan up until recently was to get my marshmallow wand 473 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 10: reconfigured into a marshmallow tunnel. Unfortunately, a few weeks ago, 474 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 10: I noticed some hairy growth on my marshmallow wand that's 475 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 10: bad because the outside of the wand is what becomes 476 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 10: the inside of the tunnel, so you don't want hair 477 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 10: growing there or else. 478 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 4: It's very uncomfortable. 479 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 10: So I talked to my surgeon and he said that 480 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 10: it would be best to postpone the procedure until after 481 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 10: hair removal is complete. This is obviously just pointing, because 482 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 10: I was really excited to have a marshmallow tunnel sooner. 483 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 9: That being said, it is still happening. We're just not 484 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 9: sure when it's happening. 485 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 10: Harr removal is a fickle thing and it's really hard 486 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 10: to predict when it will finish. But my hair removal 487 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 10: technician thinks it will be before the end of the year. 488 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 10: So fingers christ. 489 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: That is the definition of TMI. Too much information. Now, 490 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: I must confess. When I first saw this next clip, 491 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: I was convinced it was a fake, a deep fake, 492 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: a work of parody. AI. Perhaps, surely this couldn't be real. 493 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: Surely someone working in academia couldn't be so semi literate 494 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: to the point where they can't even pronounce the names 495 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: of their students, the simplest of names, including the school's name, 496 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: Thomas Thomas Jefferson University. This is what happened at the 497 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: school's College of Nursing graduation ceremony. Listen to how this 498 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: present to mispronounces the easiest of names. 499 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 500 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: The first graduate we'll see there is called Megan Aubrey. 501 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 11: Mi Genelu Iabre Jessicu Lynn Bouer, Eliah, Benemonn, Alisoner, Carl Bishop, Victoria, 502 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 11: Lee Zuper Brass. 503 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: So we have badly mangled names like Elizabeth, Alison, Jessica. 504 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Surely it can't get worse, but it can. It can. 505 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: Listen to her try to pronounce Molly Elizabeth, My. 506 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 11: Lena, Zebeth Camp. 507 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 508 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 9: Our Son care. 509 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 11: Camp Bull mm hmm, Tom Mould me m Thomas, Thomas. 510 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: Thomas. The kid's name is Thomas is graduating from Thomas 511 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Jefferson University. Thomas Jefferson must be a spinning in his 512 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: grave as we speak now. It has been an apology 513 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: from the university, and the explanation they gave is that 514 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: the presenters cards have phonetic spellings of the graduates' names. Really, 515 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: Thomas and Molly and Allison that they need special I'm 516 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: not buying the explanation. I don't know what was going 517 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: on there. I'm always mispronouncing things. But you know, English 518 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: is a second language. That's a good excuse. That wasn't 519 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: the case there. The whole catastrophe reminds me of this 520 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: classic role call sketch from Key and Peel Blockey. 521 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: Where is Blocke? No Blocke here today? 522 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, my name's Blake. 523 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 4: Are you out of your goddamn mind? 524 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: Now? D Nice? 525 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: Do you mean Denise number? 526 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 12: You said your name right? 527 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 6: Right now? 528 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Denise say right, Denise rectly Denise de. 529 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 6: Nice. 530 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 12: That's better? 531 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 9: Thank you? 532 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 11: Now? 533 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: Remember when Transactive is still in Mulvany escape to Peru 534 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: to get away from the hate in America. 535 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 12: Okay, surprise, I'm in Peru and I met Macho picchu. 536 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 12: Isn't this just so beautiful? I'm here by myself. I've 537 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 12: seen a lot of lamas and the people here are 538 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 12: so kind. I feel very safe here. It's a little 539 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 12: sad that I had to leave my country to feel safe, 540 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 12: but that will get better. Eventually, and I am dying 541 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 12: for some Trader Joe's rolled chili lime chips. But other 542 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 12: than that, I am so content. Still haven't been kissed yet, 543 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 12: but I'm holding out hope and most of all, you know, 544 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 12: this trip has just has me feeling like I'm my 545 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 12: own best friend again, and that is the best feeling 546 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 12: in the world. And I hope that you feel that 547 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 12: way about yourself too. 548 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: But we haven't heard from Dylan since Peru officially classified transgender, 549 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: non binary and into sex people as mentally ill. It's 550 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: a decision that has been slammed by LGBTQ plus activist 551 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: groups across Peru, who say it is a major step 552 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: backward in the fight for their rights and safety. Now 553 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: to an old ad that has gone viral again, and 554 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: one can understand why. Here is a Malaysian shampoo commercial 555 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: that is well, it's different. 556 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 8: Yahdalug pashu, good lord. 557 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: Even the Taliban can't be upset by that modesty. First, now, 558 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: let's go to Santiago, Chili, where these women are dancing 559 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: for Palestine. If they dressed and danced like this in Gaza, 560 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: that'd be shot by her mask. But go crazy, ladies, 561 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: and we do regularly feature the ladies of the view. 562 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: In this portion of the show, they say so many 563 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 2: stupid things. But it's not just the female host. Their guests, 564 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 2: male or female, also to say stupid stuff. Here is 565 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: ABC hosts and Democrat operative George Stephanopoulos admitting that the 566 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: deep state is real and it's beautiful. 567 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 13: And these are people that come the relatively young people 568 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 13: who come from all over the government, the CIA, the DA, 569 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 13: Defense Department, military, and you know, some people like to 570 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 13: call those people the deep state deep state. Well, the 571 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 13: big thing I learned doing this book is that the 572 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 13: deep state is packed with patriots, people who go to 573 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 13: work every single day on the front lines of the 574 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 13: most intense crises the country faces, and do it to 575 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 13: serve their country. 576 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: It wasn't too long ago that if you mentioned the 577 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: deep state, it'd be called some crazy conspiracy theorists. But 578 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: here we are. George says, they exist, and they're patriots, 579 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: patriots who hate America. Now to a couple of funny 580 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: comics who are off the left, but they're still droll 581 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: and clever and generally like by all sides of politics. 582 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: Bill Burr and Bill Maher came together for Mars podcast 583 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: but it didn't go as well as you'd expect. 584 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 10: First of all, I don't think you could change the 585 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 10: oil in a car, So let's talk about an architecture like. 586 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 4: Plants, and I wouldn't want to. 587 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 9: Oh, let me adjust my glasses. Can I tell you something, Bill, 588 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 9: Most of the you say is not smart. It's just 589 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 9: sort of obscure. 590 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 14: It's not obscure the percentage of people giant. 591 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 6: I'm just I know you're not that smart. 592 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: Those two mens seem to like each other. I don't 593 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: think that whole weirdly passive aggressive dynamic was put on. 594 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: It seemed drill to me. Joining me now a senior 595 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: fellow at the Men'sies Research Center, journalist and author Nick Kaita. 596 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: Nick you wrote a fascinating piece for The Australian newspaper 597 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: on what may be the most powerful interest group we've 598 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: seen yet. You wrote, Australian registered environmental charities receive hundreds 599 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: of millions in revenue each year. This tax advantage, honeypot, 600 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: is fueling the rapid expansion of ecological activism and lawfare, 601 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: making it nearly impossible to open a new coal mine 602 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 2: or drill for gas. Tell me how these schemes work 603 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: and who is taking advantage of them? 604 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 14: Well, that the amount of money that's going into environmental charities, 605 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 14: and all these are tax advantaged, right, you get a 606 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 14: tax donation for giving to the bodies. It's now around 607 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 14: about a quarter of billion dollars a year, and that's 608 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 14: gone up by more than twice in the last four 609 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 14: or five years. And they're employing thousands of staff. There 610 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 14: are thousands of people employed full time working for environmental charities. 611 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 14: So that's how the green left gets so active with 612 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 14: their law fare and their campaigning and their social media 613 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 14: and setting up all sorts of little astro turf groups 614 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 14: to argue their cause for climate change. They are tremendously influential. 615 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 14: And most of this money that I've been able to 616 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 14: trace comes in somewhere or another from people invested in 617 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 14: the renewable energy sector. 618 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 5: Right. 619 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 14: So it's Mike cannon Brooks, for instance, who who is 620 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 14: a big investor in renewable energy. He's got his own 621 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 14: charity has just got about thirty billion dollars thirty million 622 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 14: dollars in it. Sorry, But then you can follow that 623 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 14: through and you can trace the money, including worryingly a 624 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 14: lot of money which appears to be coming from the 625 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 14: United States and Europe. Funds like the World Wildlife Fund, 626 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 14: for instance, take money from Europe, and a lot of 627 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 14: them take money for a body called the Sunrise Foundation, 628 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 14: which has about seventy or eighty million dollar budget in Australia, 629 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 14: and that's linked to a body in the United States. 630 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 14: So as where it comes from, it's pretty murkyrita. But 631 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 14: as far as you can trace it back, it all 632 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 14: seems to end up with people who basically want wind 633 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 14: and solar and hate nuclear. 634 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the World Wildlife Fund. They did get 635 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: a massive donation from tech billionaire Mike cannon Brooks's charity 636 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: Boundless Earth, but as you mentioned, they also receive significant 637 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: funds from the overseas sources, including the European Climate Foundation, 638 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: one of Europe's biggest bank rollers of climate activism. The 639 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: question is there, Nick, why are they investing money? What 640 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: is expected in return for the larges. 641 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 14: Well, the one thing that's expected is that you do 642 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 14: not support nuclear and you do not support gas. You 643 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 14: have to get on board with this renewable only future. 644 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 14: And you can see why that is. I mean, if 645 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 14: you're somebody one of these people that have invested heavily 646 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 14: and renewable energy, your portfolio is shot to pieces the 647 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 14: moment we change the law in this country that we 648 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 14: can or in Australia, so we can have nuclear right 649 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 14: because you're not going to need intermittent or not so 650 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 14: much of this intermittent win. So that's why this is 651 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 14: big money for them. It is worth them putting millions 652 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 14: into fighting nuclear, which is what they're going to do 653 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 14: at the next election, because if they don't, if they 654 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 14: lose that battle there, then they're you know, they're going 655 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 14: to be toast. So that's basically it. It's money reto 656 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 14: it's money that's driving this. And the environmental groups in 657 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 14: Australia almost all of them, certainly the big ones are 658 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 14: all on board with this renewable only Cris Bowen sort 659 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 14: of madnes because they're getting the funding from those bodies. 660 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 14: They don't dare come out and make the sensible choice, 661 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 14: which is for nuclear. 662 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: Well we know why those who have invested heavily in 663 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 2: renewables are behind this sort of activism and these sort 664 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: of strategies. But when you're talking about the environmental groups 665 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: who are supposed to be motivated by caring for the 666 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: environment for slashing emissions. How could they possibly justify being 667 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: anti nuclear power when if you want to dramatically reduce 668 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: emissions without destroying living standards, nuclear is the only option 669 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: right now. I mean, we could develop some new technology 670 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: in the next decade or two, but right now renewables 671 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 2: aren't going to get you there because there's no base 672 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: load power. 673 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 14: I'm in Finland at the moment, which is a beautiful 674 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 14: backdrop reason. And here everybody is on board with nuclear, 675 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 14: the Beans, the left, everybody. Public opinion polls about six 676 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 14: percent of people oppose it. And I interviewed a member 677 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 14: of the Greens Party yesterday who was telling me, well, 678 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 14: of course we're for nuclear because it's the quickest way 679 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 14: to get to zero mission. If that's your thing, you 680 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 14: can do it that way. And they are doing it 681 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 14: here ninety five percent carbon free electricity. All right, So 682 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 14: they're doing it. They've proved, they've walked the walk and 683 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 14: they've shown it works. But in Australia, the Green groups 684 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 14: are just in cloud cuckoo land, you know. They they 685 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 14: just spout this stuff. I just don't really think in 686 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 14: the end they really they really do want to get 687 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 14: to net zero. They just want to be seen to 688 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 14: be the people fighting to get to net zero reach. 689 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 14: So that's the point, isn't it. Because if they wanted 690 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 14: to get to net zero, of course they go for nuclear. 691 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 14: It's the obvious way. 692 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 2: And in Scandinavia, not just Finland Sweden, it's used widely 693 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 2: beautiful part of the world. Ni Kata enjoy. Thank you 694 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: so much for joining me tonight. You still to come canceled. 695 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey is about to be uncanceled as a host 696 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: of Hollywood A listers come out in support of him. 697 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: Plus a Hollywood star explains why so many celebrities are 698 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: afraid to express right wing views. Kinsey Schofield is up next, 699 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm joined now by celebrity and royal commentator 700 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, we spoke about Kevin Spacey last week 701 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: after he broke his silence with that remarkable ninety minute 702 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: tell all interview with Dan Wootton. And now we've got 703 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: Hollywood actors coming out in support of the Oscar winner. 704 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: Sharon Stone, Limb Niesen and Stephen Fryer among those campaigning 705 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 2: for Kevin Spacey to return to acting after what's been 706 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: really seven years of a horror run in exile where 707 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: he was canceled over allegations that have not stood up 708 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 2: in court in criminal or civil cases. 709 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 4: That's right, and I do think that it's important to 710 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 4: note that when somebody like Liam Neeson or Sharon Stone 711 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 4: puts themselves out there and defends him Niecean specifically saying 712 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 4: that Kevin Spacey is a good man and a man 713 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 4: of character. Their industry needs him and misses him greatly. 714 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 4: What they're doing is they're putting themselves on the line, 715 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: and I think that it's important to note that that they, 716 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 4: all of these celebrities are so fearful of canceling or 717 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 4: of catching cancelation, and the fact that they are standing 718 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 4: up for him and saying, look, this is ridiculous. Let's 719 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 4: put this guy back to work. I think it means 720 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: a lot to Kevin Spacey, but I also think a 721 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: lot of people are going to take note of it 722 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 4: that can put Kevin Spacey back to work. 723 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: You're right, Kinsey, it's brave to take a stand. Even now. 724 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: If you're going to be super critical, you'd say, where 725 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: were these actors in the past seven years when Kevin 726 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 2: was BA canceled? But I think so many people, including myself, 727 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: who've watched that ninety minute interview with Kevin Spacey and 728 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: looked at some of these allegations and what's transpired, have 729 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 2: changed their mind about this. Perhaps even those of us 730 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: who should know better jump to conclusions way too quickly. 731 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: Let's talk more about Hollywood. Emmy winning actress Dreden Matteo 732 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: has told Donald Trump Junior during a podcast that there 733 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 2: are many well known celebrities, including herself, who are opposed 734 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: to President Joe Biden's agenda, but they're hesitant to voice 735 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 2: their opinions. 736 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 15: And people in Hollywood are patrofied. We are you going 737 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 15: to speak out against rees and sex and all of 738 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 15: that stuff. People are afraid to have those conversations because, 739 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 15: first of all, you never win with a level You're 740 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 15: just never. 741 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: Going to win. Kinsey, She's right, But we do have 742 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: plenty of celebrities who a get to voice leftist political opinions, 743 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 2: and they're getting louder and louder right now on social media, 744 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: from Susan Sarandon to Barbara Streisan to Robert de Nier. 745 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 4: Now, I think when it comes to politics, you know, 746 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 4: this is a polarizing rematch Trump versus Biden, and the 747 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 4: stakes are very high. So I do feel like you're 748 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 4: seeing a lot of celebrities that we typically see in 749 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 4: our faces around this time, like Taylor Swift disengage but 750 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: don't forget Dune the Rock. Johnson endorse Biden in twenty twenty, 751 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 4: but recently argued that he won't make that mistake again. 752 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 4: He told Fox and Friends, the endorsement that I made 753 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 4: years ago with Biden was one that I thought was 754 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 4: the best decision for me at the time. Am I 755 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: going to do that again this year? The answer is no, 756 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: I'm not going to do that. Musician macklmore It recently 757 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 4: released a scathing song tearing into Joe Biden, saying I 758 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 4: will not be voting for you this fall. But here 759 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 4: we are in June Celebrity your Los Angeles Vondrazer, starring 760 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 4: George Clooney and Julia Roberts. So some are bailing and 761 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 4: then there are some that I guess I would consider 762 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 4: in the shameless category trying to pop, you know, prop 763 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 4: up this eighty year old man. 764 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh, there are many of them. The fundraisers, the public endorsements, 765 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: and also the social media activism. Some of the things 766 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 2: these celebrities post on social media, you would think if 767 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: you were the publicist, you would be having a heart attack. 768 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: Now to the battle between a listers, Brad Pitt and 769 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 2: Angelina Jolie. Their breakup was very ugly, indeed, and there's 770 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 2: claims that Angelina Jolie has encouraged the children to avoid 771 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 2: spending time with their father. Cans it tell me the 772 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 2: latest on this saga and what we've learned from the 773 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 2: latest legal proceedings. 774 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely in this accusation sounds very credible. We heard it 775 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 4: last week. It's a former security guard and he told 776 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 4: the Superior Court that Angelina Jolie attempted to turn her 777 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 4: six children against their father, Brad Pitt by instructing them 778 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 4: to reject him during custody visits. The witness said that 779 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 4: Angelina fired him after two of his freelance security associates 780 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 4: sided with Brad Pitt during the split and agreed to 781 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 4: testify against her on Brad's behalf during custody hearings. Now, 782 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 4: Brad's attorneys accusing Jolie of using NDA's inappropriately and almost 783 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 4: in a threatening manner towards those security guards as the 784 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 4: couple were battling. It out for their chateau winery Champagne problems. 785 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: Champagne problem is indeed now I've missed their latest films. 786 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 2: But are they both working a lot less than they 787 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: once did? Is this impacting their public image and their career? 788 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 4: I think it is for Angelina Joli because she comes 789 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 4: off as very bitter and negative. You know, we just 790 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 4: found out Shiloh could be moving in with Brad Pitt 791 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 4: once she turns eighteen. Brad has a beautiful, young new girlfriend. 792 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 4: He is busy in working, Angelina kind of leading more 793 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 4: into charity work. But I do think that this divorce 794 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 4: has hurt her brand. And then on top of that, 795 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 4: like you said, she's very outspoken politically. She's got her father, 796 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 4: John Voight saying I'm voting for Trump Trump twenty twenty four, 797 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: and she just kind of looks problematic and toxic. Meanwhile, 798 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 4: Brad is like casually walking along the beaches with his dogs, 799 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 4: and he's beautiful, and he just looks unbothered. 800 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 2: He does look unbothered, perhaps too unbolded. Kinsey Schofield, thank 801 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 2: you so much for your time this evening. 802 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 9: Thank you. 803 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 2: That's it from May News Night is up next. I'll 804 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: see you Tomorrow at nine point thirty four, a whole 805 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: program devoted to lefties losing it. Good Night,