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Speaker 1: On scorn Lous Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panety Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight. The Victorian Liberal leader under renewed pressure can

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Speaker 3: John Persuto survived the latest self made crisis. Senator Alex

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Speaker 3: Antique will be with me to discuss the Albanese government's

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Speaker 3: latest assault against free speech.

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Speaker 4: Josh Hammer with the.

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Speaker 3: US report including some surprising whole numbers for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: And later in the Hour of Prayer, Leach on Pina

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Speaker 3: Dutter's call for those who displayed terrorist flags to be

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Speaker 3: deported or jailed after pro hat bull up protests in

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Speaker 3: Melbourne and Sydney. And of course we never forget Lefty's

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Speaker 3: losing it.

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Speaker 4: We could all use a.

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Speaker 5: Laugh, guess what. By the way, the fact the matter

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Speaker 5: is the rich don't day their fair share.

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Speaker 3: But first, the Victorian Liberal Party is in crisis again.

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Speaker 3: More a Deeming's defamation case against leader John Persudo is

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Speaker 3: seeing more and more MPs agitate for a leadership change.

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Speaker 3: According to the Herald's side, several Liberal MPs are set

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Speaker 3: to pressure John Persudo to resign in order to avoid

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Speaker 3: a messy leadership.

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Speaker 4: Leadership challenge.

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Speaker 3: Sam Groth, Brad Batton and James Newbury are all said

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Speaker 3: to be potential contenders. Today, John Persudo said he plans

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Speaker 3: to lead the Liberal Party into the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: state election. When he was asked about his position, he said,

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Speaker 3: it's safe, very good.

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Speaker 4: I speak to my colleagues regularly. I've got no concerns

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Speaker 4: in that area.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on there's this News Corps

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Speaker 3: senior writer Patrick Carlyon. Patrick sounds like he's got the

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Speaker 3: full support of the board there. I mean, surely, on

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Speaker 3: a serious matt note, he cannot survive this case. Whichever

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Speaker 3: way the case falls, Surely his position is untenable.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think the problem read it with this, besides

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Speaker 6: all the other obvious problems, is that this case is

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Speaker 6: going to be drawn out into next year. It's been

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Speaker 6: going since March twenty three. This whole issue, it was

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Speaker 6: a small issue. It should have been put to bed

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Speaker 6: one way or another back in the days and weeks

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Speaker 6: after it happened. John Pursudo was understand I think for

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Speaker 6: four days last week, and you can understand the frustrations.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's such a distraction from his real job,

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Speaker 6: and his real job should be prosecuting a government which

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Speaker 6: is really falling down in so many areas in Victoria

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Speaker 6: at the moment, it's really on the ropes. But instead

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Speaker 6: the Liberal Party is eating the Liberal Party. This has

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Speaker 6: been going on for years and years.

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Speaker 4: But they have so much to work with.

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Speaker 3: In this state, the labor government has been hopelessly inept.

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Speaker 3: We've got the biggest deficit of any state in the country.

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Speaker 4: It's biting.

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Speaker 3: People are feeling that because a lot of times people

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Speaker 3: don't really take no.

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Speaker 4: Of the state debt.

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Speaker 3: But anyone who pays land tax pays payroll tax, rents.

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Speaker 4: The rents have gone up.

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Speaker 3: Because of all the property taxes, so it really is

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Speaker 3: so they have so much material to work with, and

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Speaker 3: yet I think if there was an election today just

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Speaker 3: into Alan would romp it in Well.

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Speaker 6: It's interesting. I mean, look you drive around Melbourne. We

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Speaker 6: drive around Melbourne, there are so many potholes on the roads.

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Speaker 6: Literally it is a state in disrepair because we cannot

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Speaker 6: afford to fix the potholes. That's how bad it is.

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Speaker 6: Whether it's health debt, the.

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Speaker 3: Commonwealth games, which embarrassingly couldn't afford, so now we're paying

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Speaker 3: for Scotland to hold.

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Speaker 2: Them that's right.

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Speaker 6: There are so many riches to smash out of the park,

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Speaker 6: and instead John Pishido is talking about being in court

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Speaker 6: and whether his colleagues have confidence in him.

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Speaker 2: I can understand their frustration.

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Speaker 3: And he's in court in large part because he believes

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Speaker 3: a view held by Mora Deeming, which I would say

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Speaker 3: is held by the overwhelming majority of Victorians, is somehow

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Speaker 3: so controversial that it would be damaging to the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 3: That's how out his political judgment is. I mean to

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Speaker 3: me that alone is disqualifying for him to be leader.

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Speaker 3: The fact that his political judgment is so hopelessly poor.

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Speaker 4: Now let's talk about the ABC.

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Speaker 3: Last night we showed you their shockingly biased reporting of

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Speaker 3: the pro Hasbula protests in Melbourne and Sydney over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: and it has now been revealed that the public broadcaster

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Speaker 3: has been hit with multiple complaints, including one from the

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Speaker 3: Executive Council of Australian Jury. Their legal counsel wrote the

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Speaker 3: segment presented was inaccurate, impartial, offensive, intimidating, an inflammatory content

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Speaker 3: that lauded Hezbollah leader Hassan Nazreela, assassinated leader of Hezbela

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Speaker 3: and utterly failed to contextualize Israel's military actions against Hezbollah.

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Speaker 3: That was part of the complaint. Let's have a quick

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Speaker 3: look at just some of that coverage.

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Speaker 1: You are again, then, forever on the wrong side of history.

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Speaker 1: Damn Australian policies when it comes to the Middle East.

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Speaker 5: A sentiment they'll project even louder next week as to

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Speaker 5: complete the year of weekly protests.

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Speaker 3: Patrick, this was a remarkably biased news report, even by

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Speaker 4: And I emphasized the word news there because.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't part of an opinion show. It wasn't a

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Speaker 3: host sharing their personal opinions. It was supposed to be unbiased,

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Speaker 3: straight down the line, impartial news reporting.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would argue the ABC actually missed the story.

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Speaker 6: Here are all these people waving flags of a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 6: Why aren't you going up to them and saying what

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Speaker 6: are you about? Why are you doing this? That was

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Speaker 6: a story and followed by what happens to these people?

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Speaker 2: Are they visa holders? Are they going to be charged

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Speaker 2: with crimes?

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Speaker 6: That's the story And look, I can, to be fair,

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Speaker 6: been a journalist on the ground at times you can

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Speaker 6: only see what you can see. There should have been

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Speaker 6: wiser heads back in the office and h Q sort

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Speaker 6: of saying, well, hang on, this isn't right because there

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Speaker 6: was a complete lack of context. Having said that, I

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Speaker 6: mean you look at the Foreign Minister Penny Wong. I

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Speaker 6: mean she gives speeches to the UN and there's a

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Speaker 6: complete lack of context. This is a sort of infectious

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Speaker 6: disease almost that has afflicted.

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Speaker 4: But at least that's.

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Speaker 3: Her point of view, that sort of opinion, and it

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Speaker 3: seems to be those lines between news and opinion and

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Speaker 3: have been completely blurred. At the ABC, their charter is

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Speaker 3: an afterthought and this report it looked at in its entirety,

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Speaker 3: it was completely devoid of balance. There was not one

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Speaker 3: coalition MP. There wasn't one pro Israel person. There wasn't

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Speaker 3: one person critical of hes Bulah or supportive of these strikes.

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Speaker 3: It was just all one way traffic. Now, in a

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Speaker 3: massive blow for Quants' market dominance, Qatar Airways is said

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Speaker 3: to buy a twenty five percent stake in Virgin Australia,

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Speaker 3: which is sure to strengthen Virgin's position Patrick. This also

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Speaker 3: puts the Albanese government in a tricky position. They previously

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Speaker 3: blocked Qatar, but they want greater competition in this sector.

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Speaker 4: So everyone's going to be looking at what the reaction

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Speaker 4: is going to be to this.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and look it has to go through the checks

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Speaker 6: and balances as these things do.

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Speaker 2: This is big business.

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Speaker 6: Anything that brings more competition, as this seems likely to do,

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Speaker 6: is a good thing. Because nobody cares about Quantus anymore.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Quantus lost the crowd last year. There is

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Speaker 6: no loyalty to Quantus. It was a national aricon for generations.

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Speaker 6: Now it's sort of seen as his company that ripped

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Speaker 6: off so many people brazenly. I think most people would

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Speaker 6: embrace just the competition. Some competition is good, More competition

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Speaker 6: is better, and if it means cheaper airfares, that's where

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Speaker 6: people's loyalties lie.

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Speaker 2: I think they want the cheapest fares they can.

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing a lot of chatter about, well, we can't

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Speaker 3: allow Qatar to take a part of Virgin Australia because

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Speaker 3: you look at the human rights abuses, you look at

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Speaker 3: the way they treat some of their staff, the way

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Speaker 4: What do you think about that argument?

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Speaker 3: Because I would my response to that be that's a

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Speaker 3: dangerous game to play. I'm not saying it's not a

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Speaker 3: valid point, but you look at Quantus and Emirates partnership

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Speaker 3: and some of the laws in that country and some

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Speaker 3: of the treatment of their people. So if you want

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Speaker 3: to be pure, you're going to have to see changes elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: You can't just have that attitude to Qatar and no

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Speaker 3: other company.

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Speaker 2: Where do you draw the line?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think you've written columns before talking about

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Speaker 6: Admirates sponsoring the Sydney Swans.

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Speaker 4: I think it's actually Qatar is a Caitar.

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Speaker 2: And where do you draw the line?

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Speaker 6: I mean, there are there are issues that are dreadful,

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Speaker 6: that are anti Western, anti democratic. It'll always be multinational

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Speaker 6: type companies. If you're going to start drawing a line there,

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Speaker 6: then you're going to start looking at a lot of

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Speaker 6: other things as well.

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Speaker 2: The way of accepted for a long time.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying I know what the answer is, to

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Speaker 6: be fair, but it is a slippery slope.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is a cute story.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has celebrated the success of his wife, Milani's

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Speaker 3: newly released book called Milania, after it became the number

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Speaker 3: one best seller on Amazon. Milani also gave a rare

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Speaker 3: interview to Fox News recently.

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Speaker 4: Here's some of that.

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Speaker 1: If we compared these four years under this administration compared

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Speaker 1: to four years under my husband as commander in chief,

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Speaker 1: he was leading the country through peace through strength, and

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Speaker 1: the border was safer than ever before. We didn't have

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Speaker 1: any wars. People were prospering, they had jobs, they could

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Speaker 1: support their families. So I think American people need to

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Speaker 1: decide what they really want.

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Speaker 7: Ah.

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Speaker 3: This is interesting because she's really not been particularly outspoken.

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Speaker 3: Here she's talking about She talked about costs of living, pressures,

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Speaker 3: the border crisis, the fact that things were a lot

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Speaker 3: better under her husband.

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Speaker 4: It was quite an extensive interview.

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Speaker 3: She talked about the lawfare against him, having her home raided.

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Speaker 4: Do you think this is going to help her?

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Speaker 3: Some would say she's not exactly relatable, she's so beautiful,

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Speaker 3: and she's not your.

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Speaker 4: Typical politician's wife.

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Speaker 3: But do you think it helps Trump's image to have

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Speaker 3: her out there talking about these issues?

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Speaker 6: Look, she has been sort of so invisible for this

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Speaker 6: entire campaign until now, which I think is sort of

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Speaker 6: more noticeable than what she's doing now.

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Speaker 2: It did strike me. The blurb for the book talked

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Speaker 2: about her.

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Speaker 6: Inspiring story and overcoming adversity. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 6: very relatable story. She's glamorous people who are interested in

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Speaker 6: glamorous people, and I think that probably explains why the

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Speaker 6: book is selling so well. Politically, I'm not sure. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's a good question. Does this actually help Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: or is it a distraction?

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Speaker 4: I think it helps him.

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Speaker 3: I think it helps him in that as much as

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Speaker 3: she's not exactly relatable, people really do like her, and

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Speaker 3: she's intriguing and she's compelling, and I think it's certainly

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Speaker 3: something that elevates his image and perhaps elevates it in

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Speaker 3: the eyes of some women. But yeah, I can understand

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Speaker 3: why people say, yeah, she's not the girl next door,

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Speaker 3: she's not the typical politician's wife. Now, finally, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Yes, precisely, I'll keep my comments to myself on that issue,

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Speaker 4: Do, Santantic, thank you for your time still to come.

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Speaker 3: Salads, the non answers, the endless references to her childhood

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Speaker 9: Moving forward for people who are living paycheck to paycheck

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Speaker 10: So, look, I grew up. So my sister and I

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Speaker 10: That childcare center was actually owned by a woman who

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Speaker 3: next bit.

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Speaker 4: Fingers crossed.

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Speaker 10: I mean your business leaders, but you're also civic leaders.

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Speaker 10: You take seriously your voice and how you can mentor

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Speaker 10: how you can grow right communities and the sense of communities.

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Speaker 10: I love our small businesses, and so a lot of

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Speaker 10: my work in terms of building and growing the economy

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Speaker 10: has focused on small businesses. And my vision overall is

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Speaker 10: we need to build an opportunity economy in which we

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Speaker 10: increase opportunity for all, including small business owners. So I've

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Speaker 10: been responsible for billions of dollars more now going into

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Speaker 10: our community banks because they're in the community, and then

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Speaker 10: they know who's in the community, and where the town is,

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Speaker 10: and who's doing good in the community, what the community wants.

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Speaker 3: Yes, community banks, they're in the community for the community. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: spending billions that sounds a bit like communism. Doesn't sound

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Speaker 3: like she has any idea about small business.

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Speaker 4: And here is further proof of that.

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Speaker 3: Here is Kamala with Hollywood actress Jessica Alba. Jessica Alba

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Speaker 3: even she looks a little bit confused about this.

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Speaker 10: First of all, Latinas small businesses are the fastest growing

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Speaker 10: in the country.

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Speaker 4: They are right right, they are.

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Speaker 10: But included in that is that we don't lack for

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Speaker 10: people who have ambition and have aspirations and dreams and

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Speaker 10: an idea. That is a great idea and work ethic,

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Speaker 10: but not everybody has access to the Capitol. And I

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Speaker 10: believe strongly that our small businesses are the backbone of

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Speaker 10: America's economy. So when we grow and strength and small businesses,

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Speaker 10: we all benefit.

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Speaker 4: Now this is a miracle.

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Speaker 3: There's actually a funny skit from Saturday Not Live, Get

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Speaker 3: Ready to Love.

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Speaker 10: Listen up, everyone. We couldn't have gotten here without one man,

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Speaker 10: and his name is Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: You don't know here Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Pose. That's right.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people forget I'm president, include me. Guess what,

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Speaker 5: By the way, I've been serious right now, come on,

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Speaker 5: guess what. By the way, the fact of the matter

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Speaker 5: is the rich don't day a fair share.

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Speaker 4: Now, it doesn't get more wacky than this.

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Speaker 3: Here is friend liberboots on Bill Maher's program advocating for

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Speaker 3: President Joe Biden to abolish the Supreme Court. These are

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Speaker 3: the people telling you Republicans are extremists and.

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Speaker 4: Trump is a threat to democracy.

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Speaker 11: It's not even a court. It's only a court in

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Speaker 11: the sense that the Court of the sixteenth.

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Speaker 6: Was a court.

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Speaker 11: You know, I mean, basically, it's a harem. Okay, it's

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Speaker 11: a harem. It's Trump's harem. So I always feel sorry

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Speaker 11: for the three real judges on the court. What Biden

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Speaker 11: should do?

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Speaker 4: Nothing that you asked. But when they passed that.

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Speaker 11: Law, the spremem Court passed that ruling, you know where

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Speaker 11: they said, you're not the president, you're the king, which

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Speaker 11: is what that ruling is.

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Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 11: You can never be held responsible. Biden should dissolve the

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Speaker 11: Supreme Court, dissolve the subren.

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Speaker 1: I'm the president, I'm the king now, like you said,

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Speaker 1: and go home.

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Speaker 3: Even Bill Mama was looking at her like she was

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Speaker 3: a complete whacker doode. All these are mainstream figures in

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Speaker 3: the Left, They're not fringe figures, and they are well

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Speaker 3: they're left is losing it now to Hurricane Helene, which

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Speaker 3: has caused widespread destruction across a number of US states.

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Speaker 3: But President Joe Biden, well he's still president. He remained

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Speaker 3: at his Delaware holiday home until earlier today, and it

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Speaker 3: was none too please when asked about why he wasn't

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Speaker 3: monitoring this catastrophic event from the White House, like you know,

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Speaker 3: you'd expect the president to be doing time to.

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Speaker 12: Retaliate and the hurricane is from President Why weren't she

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Speaker 12: and Vice President Harris.

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Speaker 2: Jar in Washington commanding this.

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Speaker 4: I was community. I was on the file for at

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Speaker 4: least two hours yesterday in the day before as well.

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Speaker 2: A command is called telephone. It's an all most security view.

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Speaker 2: It's a nine import president populacy.

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Speaker 4: Now, plenty more lefties content with my next gas And.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we've already seen Joe Biden lounging at the beaches.

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Speaker 3: States are devastated in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, which

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Speaker 3: has caused widespread destruction in Florida, Georgia, North and South Carolina,

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Speaker 3: as well as Tennessee and Alabama. Over one hundred dead,

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Speaker 3: many more still missing. President Trump has been on the ground.

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Speaker 3: He's been speaking with those involved in rescue efforts.

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Speaker 13: And they said they've never seen one despad. Valdasa has

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Speaker 13: been ravaged. The town is very, very badly hurting, and

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Speaker 13: many thousands are without power.

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Speaker 2: They're running low on.

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Speaker 13: Food and fuips will endure. We will rebuild Valdasa and

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Speaker 13: every other town that has been so badly hit and

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Speaker 13: will merge stronger, more united, and more prosperous than ever before.

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Speaker 13: You're going to be stronger, better, You're going to learn

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Speaker 13: a lot from it, and again we pray to God

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Speaker 13: for those that have been so badly injured, and for

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Speaker 13: in particular for the people that are no longer with us.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is senior editor at Large at newswek

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Speaker 3: Josh Hamma Josh. The response of the President and the

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Speaker 3: Vice President must be said, is being a substandard.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that might qualify as the understatement of

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Speaker 9: the century. Substandard. I mean, I mean Kamala Harris, I suppose,

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Speaker 9: was bothered on social media to stage this photo op

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Speaker 9: where she was trying to bamboozle the masses here into

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Speaker 9: thinking that she was actually doing something. But in this

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Speaker 9: photo of some various stute people on x pointed out

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Speaker 9: she has those iPhone earbuds that plug into your phone,

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Speaker 9: but her phone is on the desk and she's pretending

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Speaker 9: to be on a phone call.

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Speaker 4: It's not even plugged in.

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Speaker 9: It's not even plugged in. There's and there's a piece

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Speaker 9: of paper in front of her as if she's taking

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Speaker 9: notes from the FEMA director. It's a blank piece of paper.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, if you're gonna fake it and

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Speaker 9: try to make it look like you're making it, you know,

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Speaker 9: you know at least, don't don't just do it this poorly.

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Speaker 9: I I mean, try to try to make it look

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Speaker 9: like you're at least attempting to cover your tracks, for

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Speaker 9: God's sake. Meanwhile, Joe Biden, who has never been more

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Speaker 9: clearly out to launch, is confusing a labor strike with

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Speaker 9: the Israeli strike. On the who Thi's they asked him

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Speaker 9: for what he thought about the Israeli Operation Yemen. He said,

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Speaker 9: he supports collective bargaining, as if it's a labor dispute

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Speaker 9: with the United Auto Workers in a picket line. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is just catastrophic and competent. This is

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Speaker 9: very much this administration's version of what happened to Hurricane

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Speaker 9: Katrina under George W. Bush is actually much worse in

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Speaker 9: terms of the incompetence. But back then, Kanye West infamously

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Speaker 9: said that George W. Bush hates black people, which was

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Speaker 9: a racist smear back then and is a smear today.

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Speaker 9: But this very DEI so called equity obsessed administration. On

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Speaker 9: the FEMA website today, I took a look earlier and

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Speaker 9: I noted that they have diversity listed as their number

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Speaker 9: one goal for the agency or agency for federal disasters.

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Speaker 9: You know, this equity obsessed administration is currently leaving behind

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Speaker 9: overwhelmingly disroportionately working class and poor white people in Apple

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Speaker 9: in North Carolina. It is a horrific, horrific look this

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Speaker 9: close to an election, and.

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Speaker 3: I've seen just some absolutely appalling commentary online on social

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Speaker 3: media from people that are almost celebrating this because it's

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Speaker 3: hitting Republican heavy areas. I mean, that sort of ugliness,

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Speaker 3: callousness is just so depressing to see in America, but

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Speaker 3: it certainly does exist. Now, moving on, Josh, We've also

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Speaker 3: seen some interesting polling numbers regarding the Hispanic vote in America.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this breakdown of the data from NBC Steve Konaki.

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Speaker 14: We ask a basic question of Hispanic voters, which party

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Speaker 14: do you more identify with Thirty seven percent now say Republicans,

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Speaker 14: forty nine percent say Democrats.

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Speaker 4: But again, look at.

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Speaker 14: How this has shifted in just the last dozen years.

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Speaker 14: In twenty twelve, this was a forty one point advantage

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Speaker 14: for the Democrats. It has come all the way down

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Speaker 14: to twelve points, Kristen, a twenty nine point drop in

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Speaker 14: terms of that gap there on which party Hispanics identify

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Speaker 14: with in just twelve.

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Speaker 3: Years, and Josh, I wouldn't be surprised if those figures

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Speaker 3: are actually even close closer on election day. What do

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Speaker 3: you think has been behind this trend. It's a fairly

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Speaker 3: dramatic realignment in just twelve years.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. It's actually not just Hispanic votes.

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Speaker 9: It very much does include Hispanic voters, but young black

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Speaker 9: men in particular are breaking for Republicans this cycle like

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Speaker 9: never before. Donald Trump could probably get up the twenty

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Speaker 9: five percent of the young blackmail vote, you know, even

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Speaker 9: just younger Americans, the eighteen to thirty five demographic, you

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Speaker 9: include millennials and gen z and there. You know, it's

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Speaker 9: looking clearly to be a single digit margin. A few

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Speaker 9: months ago, when it was actually well within the margin

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Speaker 9: of Arrea, I wouldn't surprise me if it ended up there.

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Speaker 9: You know, the Hispanic vote has been shifting very slowly,

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Speaker 9: but very steadily towards the right for a very long

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Speaker 9: time now. Hispanic people in America are disproportionately Catholic. You

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Speaker 9: have some evangelicals, you know, they're good common sense individuals

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Speaker 9: who don't like being pandered to, and the Democratic Party

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Speaker 9: when it comes to Hispanic voters, they try to pander

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Speaker 9: them by just encouraging more illegal immigration. There are a

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Speaker 9: lot of problems with that. One, it's deeply infantilizing and

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Speaker 9: belittling to assume that just because you happen to share

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Speaker 9: a native language, among other things, with someone, that you

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Speaker 9: support people entering the country illegally. Second, probably even more

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Speaker 9: to the point, a lot of the communities where Hispanic

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Speaker 9: Americans hit are the hardest hit by the illegal alien

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Speaker 9: invasion and all the crime and the drugs, and the

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Speaker 9: drug and the human trafficking, the sex trafficking. So it's

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Speaker 9: a totally toxic stew right now. You know, it's interesting

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Speaker 9: if Donald Trump wins this election, which I actually do

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Speaker 9: predict that he's going to do, he's going to do

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Speaker 9: so with essentially a multi ethnic, working class coalition the

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Speaker 9: likes of which the Republican Party has really never had

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Speaker 9: in modern times. And you know, again, as someone who

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Speaker 9: I hope that he wins, I just hope that he

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Speaker 9: keeps it up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be interesting. You mentioned the black vote fracturing,

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Speaker 3: particularly amongst young black men. That's going to be fascinating

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Speaker 3: to see because the black demographic has voted ninety percent

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Speaker 3: plus for Democrats for so many years, so to fracture

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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 4: Quite an achievement.

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Speaker 3: Now, I want to get your comments on high profile

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Speaker 3: American author and social commentator fran Libovitz.

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Speaker 4: She's a darling of the left.

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Speaker 3: She's embarrassed herself again with these remarks on Bill marsh

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Speaker 3: Shaw Show. The sad thing is, Josh, that many on

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Speaker 3: the left agree with her about her calls to have

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden abolish the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: What biden'sh You do not think, you asked.

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Speaker 11: But when they passed that law, themport passed that ruling,

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Speaker 11: you know where they said, you're not the president, you're

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Speaker 11: the king, which is what that ruling is. You can

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Speaker 11: do whatever you want. You can never be held responsible, Biden.

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Speaker 11: She diserves the Supreme Court dissolved.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, Josh, that they say Donald Trump is the

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Speaker 3: threat to democracy, threat to norms, threats to the republic,

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Speaker 3: and the left of mainstream this sort of natty Ritrick.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm running out of how many norms

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Speaker 9: or so called norms to count that people on the

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Speaker 9: left these days just continue to tear down I mean,

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Speaker 9: out of one end of the mouth, they are clamoring

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Speaker 9: that Donald Trump is a world historical threat to American democracy.

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Speaker 9: On the other end, they are openly calling for the

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Speaker 9: abolition of one of our three branches of governments established

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Speaker 9: an Article three of the Constitution, the judicial branch.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 9: Otherwise, they have been trying to literally take Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: off of the ballot. That was a case out of Colorado.

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Speaker 9: It was the Trump versus Anderson case at the US

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Speaker 9: Supreme Court. I can personally probably think of no more

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Speaker 9: quick essentially undemocratic acts. If the word democracy means anything,

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Speaker 9: means the ability of the demost the people to actually

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Speaker 9: vote for office, it doesn't get much more undemocratic than

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Speaker 9: denying your opponent's actual ballot access. How about the fact

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Speaker 9: that the Biden Harris Merrick Girland administration is literally trying

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Speaker 9: to bankrupt and incarcerate, yes, actually incarcrate the opposition. So

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Speaker 9: called special counsel Jack Smith, who was a Democrat lawfair

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Speaker 9: complex hitman Jack Smith just filed a one hundred and

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Speaker 9: eighty page brief in their delusional January sixth case in Washington,

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Speaker 9: d C. That was his past Thursday. A day later,

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Speaker 9: on Friday, he filed emotion to actually make public most

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Speaker 9: of that brief Rita, there is one reason and one

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Speaker 9: reason only why Jack Smith wants to make public in October,

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Speaker 9: just before an election, all of the various details about

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Speaker 9: January sixth. That is election interference if I have ever

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Speaker 9: seen it. By the way, goes right against the Department

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Speaker 9: of Justice's own internal manual, which explicitly says you can't

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Speaker 9: do that, but they're doing it anyway, and God willing,

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Speaker 9: the voters of America will make them pay a price

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Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 3: The law fair to may has been third world banana

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Speaker 3: republic despot nation behavior to as you said, essentially try

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Speaker 3: to bankrupt and jail your leading political opponent. And we

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Speaker 3: know these cases are trumped up. Excuse the pun. They've

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Speaker 3: created laws to just get one person. Now, I want

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Speaker 3: to ask you about abortion. It's an issue that gets

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Speaker 3: plenty of coverage, including in Australia, about what's happening in

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Speaker 3: the US, and the debate is just littered with fake news,

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Speaker 3: deliberate lies, and I'm thinking these lies are very dangerous, Josh.

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Speaker 3: There's a recent one claiming that a woman died due

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Speaker 3: to abortion bands in Georgia, when the death was due

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Speaker 3: to complications after the abortion pill was taken, and there's

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Speaker 3: doctors in Georgia speaking out about these false claims. And

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Speaker 3: I want to play you a clip here of Senator

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Speaker 3: James Langford. He tried to get some clarity on this

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Speaker 3: issue from Texas assistant former Texas assistant and solicit a general,

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Speaker 3: Heather Hacker to just clarify what is actual fact and

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Speaker 3: what is sca ungering.

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Speaker 12: Miss Hackler, just to clarify on this. Are there any

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Speaker 12: states where women face prosecution for having an abortion?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: Are there any states that criminalize miscarriage?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: Are they care for a miscarriage?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 12: Are there any states that criminalize removing an ectopic pregnancy?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: Are there any states that prohibit life saving care for

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Speaker 12: the mother?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 12: Are there any states where women have to be actively

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Speaker 12: dying for a doctor to be able to act for

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Speaker 12: her care.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 12: There's been a lot of rhetoric in this that I'm

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Speaker 12: concerned pushes people away from getting access to healthcare.

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Speaker 3: Josh Kamala Harris has made claims of women being arrested

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Speaker 3: for having a miscarriage. She claimed a woman died due

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Speaker 3: to the is and let me quote her word for

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Speaker 3: word here. She said women are being denied care during miscarriages,

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Speaker 3: some only being treated once they developed sepsis. And we

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Speaker 3: know that women have died because of Trump abortion bands.

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Speaker 3: This is not just disinformation, Josh, it's dangerous. If women

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Speaker 3: think they're going to get arrested for having a miscarriage,

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Speaker 3: they may not seek medical care and that could have

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Speaker 3: catastrophic consequences.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's actually literally what happened in Georgia. I mean

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Speaker 9: exactly what you just said is what happened. So there's

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Speaker 9: women in Georgia. She took an abortion pill. And by

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Speaker 9: the way, the Democrats are singularly responsible for liberalizing the

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Speaker 9: abortion pill. You can get it via telemedicine. Now the

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Speaker 9: mail to you in the postal service, you know, no

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Speaker 9: doctor supervision necessary or anything like that. You know there

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Speaker 9: and the advertiser as if the abortion pill mifipristone usually

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Speaker 9: the advertise as if it's just as safe as popping

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Speaker 9: a taylenol or an advil. Unfortunately, we we actually have

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Speaker 9: data on this and that's not in fact the case.

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Speaker 9: So what happened to this woman in Georgia is she

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Speaker 9: developed severe complications, and what you just said is what happened.

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Speaker 9: She chose not to seek care. She didn't go to

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Speaker 9: a hospital or the er or anything because she thought

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Speaker 9: that she couldn't be helped, because she believed the left

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Speaker 9: wing media lies that in a situation like that, then

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Speaker 9: you cannot get anything, anything, literally anything to say that

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Speaker 9: the life mother. Look, you know read, I've been a

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Speaker 9: pro life activist for most of my adult life. I

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Speaker 9: founded the Law Students for Life chapter at the University

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Speaker 9: of Chicago Law School. I've spoken in pro life conferences

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Speaker 9: for years. I have never met a single pro lifer

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Speaker 9: of any ethical, religious, moral persuasion or anything whoever, ever, Ever,

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Speaker 9: in a situation where an unborn child's mother, a mother's

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Speaker 9: life is actually on the line, of course, you do

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Speaker 9: whatever necessary has to be done. These are lies, These

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Speaker 9: are grotesque lies. There are lies designed to gin up

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Speaker 9: their base, to fear monger, and to scare people into

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Speaker 9: voting for them. But it's totally totally disingenuous. By the way,

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Speaker 9: she also openly lied at the presidential debate as well,

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Speaker 9: when you said the dal Trump supports a national abortion band,

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Speaker 9: much to the chagrin of art and ProLife for such

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Speaker 9: as myself, he does not. That's actually not his stance.

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Speaker 9: I kind of wish that it was, but I understand

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Speaker 9: politically why it's not. But he's very clear that it's

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Speaker 9: back to the states, and they're lying on that front

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Speaker 9: as well as you did.

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, the Supreme Court giving the power back to

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Speaker 3: the states. It's precisely the situation here in Australia. The

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Speaker 3: states make laws in relation to abortion, and I know

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Speaker 3: in the US you've got states that are limit abortion,

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Speaker 3: and then you've got states that have got abortion right

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Speaker 3: up to the end of the third trimester pretty much

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Speaker 3: with no term limits on when an abortion can be

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Speaker 3: carried out. So that's again, that sort of nuance is

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Speaker 3: not being reported on, certainly here in Australia, because I

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Speaker 3: get so many questions from people about what's happening with

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Speaker 3: abortion in America, and so much of it is misinformation,

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Speaker 3: just blatant misinformation.

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Speaker 4: Josh Hammer, thank you so much for your time, this

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Speaker 4: evening always a pleasure. Thank you still to come.

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Speaker 3: Freyer Leech on Peter Ducan's push to deport or jail

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Speaker 3: those who weighed terrorist flags at protests.

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Speaker 4: You're watching the reader panning here show.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is freyer Leish, director of the Center

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Speaker 3: for Youth Policy, at the Menzies Research Center. Freyer Opposition

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Speaker 3: leader Peter Dutton has demanded that the Albanesi government push

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Speaker 3: for the prosecution of protesters under recently introduced anti terror laws,

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Speaker 3: which banned the display of terror symbols.

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Speaker 4: Is called for the laws.

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Speaker 3: To be used to cancel visas, with Home Affairs Minster

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Speaker 3: Tony Burke asking state authorities to check the visa status

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Speaker 3: of pro hasbular protesters.

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Speaker 4: What's your reaction been to the way authorities have handled

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Speaker 4: this so far.

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Speaker 15: I'm so glad Tony Burke is actually finally taking a

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Speaker 15: stand against these people. All we've seen from labor really

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Speaker 15: since October seven and since those first terrible protests where

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Speaker 15: people took over the Opera house and we're chanting gas

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Speaker 15: the Jews wears the Jews, whatever it was. But since

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Speaker 15: then it has been weakness after weakness. We have seen

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Speaker 15: really no decisive action. I don't think we've seen any

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Speaker 15: visas canceled. Have we seen anyone actually prosecuted? I don't know.

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Speaker 15: I don't think so. And so we need a government

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Speaker 15: that actually stands up and says anti Semitism is not okay,

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Speaker 15: Spreading hatred and fear is not okay. And if you

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Speaker 15: openly celebrate and display the flags of terrorist organizations, you should,

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Speaker 15: according to our own law here in Australia, be prosecuted

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Speaker 15: because that is a crime.

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Speaker 3: Well, why didn't we see arrests on the weekend? We

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Speaker 3: had people marching that were waving, like you said, the

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Speaker 3: symbols of a terror group, and police were observing that.

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Speaker 3: There really didn't seem to be any effort to do

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Speaker 3: anything about it beyond observing what was happening. Do you

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Speaker 3: think they're more concerned with maintaining the peace and not

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Speaker 3: aggravating these protesters ultimately?

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Speaker 15: And I don't know this, but I have had a

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Speaker 15: few off the record conversations with policemen in New South

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Speaker 15: Wales and Victoria, and I think two things are happening here.

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Speaker 15: One is they're getting directions from the top, so the

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Speaker 15: police are acting on whatever the police minister says at

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Speaker 15: a state level. In Victoria, you've got a Victoria and

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Speaker 15: New South Wales two labor police ministers who have been

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Speaker 15: resoundingly weak on cracking down on anti Semitic protests. And

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Speaker 15: so really, if they're not getting the orders to take action,

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Speaker 15: well what are they going to do? They're just responding

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Speaker 15: to their commands which come from the top, and so

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Speaker 15: really the responsibility for taking action lives with our governments

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Speaker 15: at a state and federal level. But the second thing

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Speaker 15: that's happening as well is I actually think the police

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Speaker 15: are scared of these protesters. I've had policemen say to

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Speaker 15: me off the record, they are genuinely terrified of these crowds.

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Speaker 15: If you look at who's attending these protests, they are thugs.

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Speaker 15: They cover their face, many of them could be carrying weapons.

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Speaker 15: We don't know the kind of people who are waving

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Speaker 15: Hesbala flags and eulogizing Nazraala, a notorious terrorist who's been

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Speaker 15: determined to kill Jews for the last thirty years. Those

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Speaker 15: are not the kind of people that are going to

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Speaker 15: peacefully abide by police instruction. So I think they are

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Speaker 15: being given directions to essentially take the approach of appeasement

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Speaker 15: from the top, and then they are genuinely scared of

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Speaker 15: these thugs that have taken over our streets.

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Speaker 4: Well, it is it's mob rule of the moment.

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Speaker 3: The ones who are most likely to escalate and become

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Speaker 3: violent are the ones who are being appeased. I'm wondering

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Speaker 3: what's going to be happening on university campuses. Do you

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Speaker 3: expect to see hostility towards Israel and Jewish students to

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Speaker 3: intensify further with Israel launching these limited raids on targets.

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Speaker 4: In Lebanon, definitely.

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Speaker 15: The day after the page your attack, they called a

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Speaker 15: snap rally in support of Hasbla, seemingly, and they even

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Speaker 15: had a little graphic on their posters advertising this rally,

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Speaker 15: which is a photo of the pager and it said

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Speaker 15: not a target. I mean, that is just insane mental gymnastics.

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Speaker 15: Come on, you accidentally happen to have a pager that

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Speaker 15: allowed you to communicate with the senior ranks of Hasbela.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, sure, sure, you're not.

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Speaker 15: Involved in any terrorist activity whatsoever. It is completely absurd.

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Speaker 15: But that is just the state of the left on

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Speaker 15: our university campuses. They have gotten into this insane mind

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Speaker 15: warp where they can, on the one hand, supposedly support

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Speaker 15: women's rights, supposedly support LGBT rights, but then on the

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Speaker 15: other hand they're going to protests where they are eulogizing Nazraala,

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Speaker 15: the hes Bala leader. They're supporting Iran's proxies hes bla

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Speaker 15: hamasahutis against the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

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Speaker 15: It is a profound distortion of reality and the mental

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Speaker 15: gymnastics that must be going on in their minds right now,

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Speaker 15: it's insane.

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Speaker 3: Well, the mental gymnastics remain fascinating. And it's not just

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Speaker 3: in Australia. It's not just on university campuses. Most of

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Speaker 3: these leftists who are protesting pro trans rights, their LGBTQ

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Speaker 3: activist that would describe themselves as feminists, and yet they

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Speaker 3: stand with regimes and groups who are vehemently anti women,

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Speaker 3: vehementally anti homosexual, who punish people for being gay, and

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Speaker 3: they somehow can reconcile that in their mind and go

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Speaker 3: on with their activism.

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Speaker 4: It really is just bizarre.

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Speaker 3: But you are one of the few on university, on

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Speaker 3: university campus who calls out this insanity, and I applaud.

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Speaker 4: You for it.

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Speaker 3: Freyer, You're very brave to be doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time this evening, really.

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Speaker 15: Doul Thank you, Rita.

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Speaker 3: Just before we go a correction during a discussion on

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Speaker 3: the program on September twenty sixth about a Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: campaign video, the people who feature in the video were

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Speaker 3: described as actors with the history of donating to the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: In light of additional information which we've been made aware of,

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Speaker 3: we're happy to point out that the people involved are

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Speaker 3: not actors and not appear to be Democrat donors.

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Speaker 4: That's it from me. Up next is Newsnight h