1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Colinwood unseated from its perch atop the table. How deep 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: to the concerns run and for the posed favorites. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 2: That is now off the boil. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Brisbane landed the biggest blow of the premiership. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 3: Defense and the Adelaide Crows proved the beneficiary as the 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: pecking order gets a shakeup and. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: The Doorkers got out of a sticky scenario but didn't 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: escape unscathed. The coach has the latest on prime mover 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Hayden yacht. 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 4: We talked about. Is this step into it in, brace all. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Of it in the room and pitt it. It's unedifying 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: for a senior coach to do that. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain tape 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: the man on They played the best footy I've ever 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: seen at the start of the season and Indy said 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: president left the cup o order said. 17 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: Of course they do. 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: It is the stuff that legends are made of. 19 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: What is holding the ball? 20 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now. 21 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 4: I could do something. 22 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: Wrong, you know, and I need to get and the 23 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: boards actually the fans lover and with no fans no 24 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: through sixty year old. 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: The most consequential round in many a month. 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: The bad was. 27 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Diabolical, but the good gas, the good was exceptional. 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: Yes, fortunately we were there and one of them was 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: actually two of them. 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: Had a great weekend the footy. 31 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: I know there's some ordinary matches around the let's can't 32 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: concentrate on the big ones and there were big results. 33 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, did Saturday Night know how to draw a crowd? 34 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: So the biggest home of away crowd the Lions that 35 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: ever played in front of at the MCG and what 36 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: do it on a television front for Fox Sports and 37 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: for k highest rating home and away game in Fox 38 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Footy history, the fourth highest rated game in Fox Footy history, 39 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: so that includes finals and the most streamed game in 40 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: the move towards KO and that includes finals. 41 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: Lived up to the billing and people would have stayed 42 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 3: right to the end. There's a game in two weeks 43 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: time that might challenge those numbers when they get over 44 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: to Adelaide and take on the Crow. So that it 45 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: was a great game of footy and the Brisbane lines 46 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: will talk about them and Chris Fagan will join us. 47 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: They just flex, they really did. So here's all we 48 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: have linebub for you, our coaches. Chris Fagan justin long 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Muller and then over to couch. Lee Matthews is here 50 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: to join Jack, Jordi, Brownie and Bucks with all their analysis. 51 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Our players, two of the most revered in the game, 52 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Marcus Bontonpelli and Travis Boke for the small and the 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: big issues. Since we hit August Ray Chamberlain, we were 54 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: building a list, I feel on Saturday night of incidents 55 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to put past him, Simon Goodwin and our favorite pairing 56 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, Simo and Horse to make a smarter 57 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: in the run two finals. Our Mondays start with the 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: awarding of the gvps, the most valuable players from the rounds. 59 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: In the estimation of just one man, Gary lyon the 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Mustang is getting close to decision time. Ninety three thousand 61 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: dollars worth of vehicle here Mustang GT fast back from Ford. 62 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: You know, the iconic design, the unreal performance, the five leader, 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: the eight engine. 64 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: In camera. 65 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: Surely we going in camera. 66 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: We have to be this is getting this is getting 67 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: too new, wracking right here we go. So I went 68 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: to Thursday and this was a big aim. It was 69 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: the West of Bulldogs and the Giants. It was supposed 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 3: to have massive ramifications and Aaron Norton, see get out 71 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: of my road. Sam Darcy joined in and then the 72 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: game was over inside fifteen minutes. He was fantastic Aaron Norton. 73 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: He's back after the year. Has been everything that you 74 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: would have hoped if you're a Western bulldog supported that 75 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: you'd see from this man who has had his moments 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: in the last twenty four months. 77 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: But he was back to burn the dominant. Key Ford twenty. 78 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: Touches, fourteen contested, took eight marks, Jared at thirteen score 79 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: involvements and kicked five snags. 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: He's been an open question for a few years, but 81 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: now he's an answered question. He's living up to his 82 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: contract and that pairing that they have got going. It's 83 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: really something we want to talk about. Intangibles in football. 84 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Confidence if you can bottle it, and he's got a 85 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: Two votes went to Jordan Dawson, the All Australian Captaincy's 86 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: up for grabs. He's probably got his nose in front 87 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: right now. Noah Anderson's coming and coming really hard, but 88 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: they might go with the experience and this folk in 89 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: the first quarter will Day, he just took it apart. 90 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: Nine possessions will Day six clearances. He had Jordan Dawson 91 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: went in the second quarter and stood right next to 92 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: him and by the end of that second quarter he 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: himself had had seven touches, kicked two unbelievable goals and 94 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: just got the Adelaid Crows back into the contest. He's 95 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: a phenomenal footballer. This is one of those goals here 96 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: and he's he's going to be hard to toss from 97 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: the Austrian captaincy. And then Logan Morris put on displace 98 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Saturday night. 99 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: How long is he? Nineteen twenty years of a. 100 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Jim cg those numbers you talked about from an audience 101 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: point of view up against the Collingwood defense. It's been 102 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: rated as the best in the competition for a while 103 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: with the Australian Premiership captain in the vicinity, and he 104 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: just kicked a lazy six goals straight. That's what I 105 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: loved about it on the big stage. Six goals straight. 106 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: So what a player they've got in this young man. 107 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: And we're blessed we've got a beautiful bunch of these 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: young key forwards coming up. It was good to watch 109 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: him in action. 110 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Yes, those in their early twenties and then won right 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: on twenty so we'll talk to the coach about him. 112 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I suspect this is the last time I see the 113 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: GVP that in camera. We go so Patrick Dangerfield on nine, 114 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Matt round seven, Toby Green, Jesse Isaac Leaning six still 115 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: sidebottom because he picked at Tom Green. Nick Dakos could 116 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: still come from the clouds with a couple of great 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: gay anyone could anyone. 118 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Nine's in front. You can get four best. 119 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: On all right top of the agenda. A month ago 120 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Collinwood was sitting pretty. They had a ten point buffer 121 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: on the competition. That margin for error has now been erased, 122 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and like everybody else, the Magpies are right on the edge. 123 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: I nearly would have been good to get Bob on 124 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: a bit earlier. 125 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: Because I think there are some alarm bells starting to ring, 126 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: bell starting to ring, and then there's. 127 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: A bit of mood music. Is it? 128 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: It is a seismic result amongst the contenders, and the 129 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: champs are still here. 130 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: We had a meanings. 131 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: It don't sugarcoat it was out played that that's real. 132 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: The numbers don't lie. 133 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 2: Unbelieve victory. To beat the best, you've got to beat 134 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: the best. Calling on us out on top of the ladder, 135 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: for most of this season. 136 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: They've come here and they've stirred them down Bristol. 137 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: They apparently they had a really stern and honest session 138 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: about their contests and stuff, and I said, do you 139 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: need that from meag you want that? 140 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: I just don't. 141 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: I just don't think we need that. I just think 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: we've We've got a lot of trust in that groom. 143 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: Hasn't been a pattern. But it's disappointing. Yeah, we've got 144 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 5: work to do. 145 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: It's a cause for concerned. 146 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: It calling it. 147 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm concerned that there's there's only a couple of strings 148 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: to their ball. 149 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: At the moment. 150 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 5: We were outplayed by a really good team, like a 151 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: really good team, a hungry team. As I said after Freeman, 152 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 5: I was good to get that lesson now, is it? 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm an internal optimist. I have so much trust 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 4: and belief. 155 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: If you're if you're a column and supporter at home, 156 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: you think we played probably as bad as we played 157 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 5: since round zero. 158 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: That's real. We're not going to stand still. 159 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 5: I said, as the player, see, we'll see you tuesday 160 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: with a smile on your face. 161 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: Really get guess where're gonna live? 162 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Is the history here a guide or. 163 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: A caution and you can smell the desperation. Four nights 164 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: out from that, Hawthorne's only way to the finals is 165 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: probably through Collingwood, and the margin for error for the 166 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Pies has gone. The history repeating gas is. You can 167 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: run a couple of case studies here, but twenty twenty 168 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: three being the most relevant in the waiting room. While 169 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: finals had been secured and before it was for all 170 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the marbles, they lost three out of four. 171 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: We're seeing that again. 172 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: They never lost top spot though in twenty twenty three, 173 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: and this is where this season gets sticky. A couple 174 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: more missteps and they'll miss the top four. Set it 175 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: right and they'll win the minor premiership and restore favoritism. 176 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: What do you believe? Who are those wins? 177 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: By the way, very very narrow, Marge, So what do 178 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: I believe? Craig McCrae sat here on Monday a bit 179 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: like they were leading the Tour de France and the 180 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: peloton was closing in on them, and that is exactly 181 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: what's happening, which is great, great for the competition, not 182 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: so good for you for a Collingwood fan, because all 183 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: of a sudden your ten points clear a few weeks ago, 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: so there's a few what happens when you're out in 185 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: front for that long. I suspect Sydney Copp this as 186 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: well last years and in clubs go okay, they're going 187 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: to be there. Collingwood, we suspect they're going to be 188 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: top two or top four, so we're going to have 189 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: to go through them. 190 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: So let's let's go and go to work on them. 191 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: So there's a couple of things that have emerged I 192 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: think in recent times, and whether it's real or not. 193 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: There's no panic, by the way, because Brisbane or they 194 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: just might be the best thing. 195 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah Brisbane, So no panic. 196 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: But don't play down the line footy against Collingwood. 197 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: That is the number one rule I reckon. 198 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: They're intercept marking game and their defenders behind the footy. 199 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: You'll be bolstered by Jeremy Howe. Just don't play straight line. 200 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: They defend straight line as well as anyone in the competition. 201 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: They're in a set marking game. When they're winning and 202 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: losing is different. And then we'll talk about Grandble on 203 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: the moment, so their grandball stuff. I think there was 204 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: a game against thet Kilda, whether it was by design, 205 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: or they're shocking kicking inside their forward fifty and all 206 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: of a sudden they look very, very vulnerable. So in 207 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: their losses in their defensive fifty, their groundball results seventeen 208 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: in the competition. So there's a couple of ways that 209 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: you want to stretch them. 210 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: You don't want to stretch them. 211 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: You won't stretch them if you're kicking straight lines, as 212 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: we're about to see here. Because Darcy Cameron's been the 213 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: best inn sept marker in the competition. 214 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: You just pop himself down here. 215 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: Darcy Moore in this role is as good as anyone, 216 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: So don't do that. 217 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: Don't blast away like that. 218 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: You're playing right into the hands of this Collingwood team. 219 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: What this Brisbane team too, is they. 220 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: Then went off the line. 221 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: No one likes to defend angles, so this is what 222 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: makes it hard. And Collingwood aren't alone in this. But 223 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: Wilmot's gone here. So there's Quiner up high as a defender. 224 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: Perriman gets up high as a defender, change the angle, 225 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: open some space up. Wilmot is one of the most 226 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: outstanding and players in the game, comes on and kicks 227 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: a goal and then in that second quarter, Jared Collingwood 228 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: had complete domination, you recall it until this. 229 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: So then they just got back to work. 230 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: So they cite Cameron, they cite more and they game 231 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere near them. So for a period 232 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: of time there Colin would just kick goal after go 233 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: after goal. So this is instructive here, keep looking, keep 234 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: referencing where those two are and go around them. And 235 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: now this was really we'll speed this up. Now, that 236 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: was dramatic and enhanced because they couldn't get through. They 237 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: just couldn't get the one. He had five possessions or 238 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: something in the inside fifty in the second quarter, but 239 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: they went around them. So that's the way to go 240 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: against Collingwood now when there's pressure and everything else. Long 241 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: down the line is a manner from heaven for the 242 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: rest of them. But play play at the angles and 243 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: be prepared to win the ground ball and your forward 244 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: fifty and you'll stretch them. 245 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: So this is the tyranny of being the team that 246 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: everybody's forensically studying known. If you're go into a Mount 247 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty thing, you've got to find a way to combat 248 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: this system. 249 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and there'll be many momi layers to that. That's 250 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: just the stuff I've seen. So Darcy Cameron's had zero intercept. 251 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: Marks twice this year. They lost both games. So all 252 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: these things are self justifying what you think. But I've 253 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: watched them a lot. 254 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: We watched them a lot because they'd be always big games, 255 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I just think if you play straight line, 256 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: you play straight into their hands. And Brisbane, for the 257 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: first time in four times, took it off the line 258 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: all the time. 259 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: And we'll talk to Chris Fagan in the moment, and 260 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: they got through. 261 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: So what we're about to see with Collinwood is they 262 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: have the margin for error has been erased. They went 263 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: through the qualifying phase, took a breath around how to 264 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: manage it, or they can't manage it any longer. So 265 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: I suspect consequence plays a big role now from Thursday 266 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: night and having Hawthorne and adelaide, so we'll get the 267 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: full ginned up version of Collinwood now. And I suspect 268 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: the lesson of twenty twenty three was we didn't get 269 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: that for a period of time and it never threatened them. 270 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: They were still sitting on top and they produced that 271 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: in the finals. I would expect to see that now 272 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. There's no loafing toward. 273 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: Finals from here. 274 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the selection integrity question will be really interesting. 275 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: So you suspect that Frampton who heard you today the 276 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: forum in the VFL is not good? 277 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: Is It's not important? Really? I know that sounds stupid. 278 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: He's just going to come and play the role that 279 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: freeze up Darcy Jeremy Howe. He comes back, and then 280 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: you've got the ned Long question, Who's been one of 281 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: the success stories of the season, but he was he 282 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: looked exposed. 283 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: In that pressure. 284 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: Now he might you know, they may have faith in 285 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: him working through or they may go back to Mitchell 286 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: the non quantity. So all of these things will reveal 287 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: themselves as early as Thursday night and Colin god fans 288 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: should look forward to it. I mean, they've got justifiable 289 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: swagger and we'll find out whether it's well placed because 290 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: Hawthorne are playing for the whole. 291 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Whole damn model. 292 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: This period was the theme of their whole premiership film, 293 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: is when the doubts gathered in August heading towards them and. 294 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: The doubts are just but there's some of the people 295 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: just don't like Collinwood. 296 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's the drama around it. 297 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: But the doubts aren't anything that's saying they can't win 298 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: the premiership. I don't get any analysts sort of put 299 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: a line through them. But the questions are there, and 300 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Craig mccraehimself said it, there's questions and we're going to 301 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: get answers. 302 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Did we get our default position restored? Brisbane's the best 303 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: team in it until further notice. 304 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm about to talk about it. 305 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: Another team that I've been almost becoming a citizen of Adelaide. 306 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. Yeah, the Brisbane lines are very, 307 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: very very good, Jared. 308 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: But that team over in South Australia, they just they're 309 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: feeling pretty good about themselves. 310 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: What left the biggest impression on Saturday night from the Lions, 311 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: particularly after what they'd done in the Q clash, which 312 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: invited questions around whether they are at the end of 313 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: their run, whether they were marking time locking Neil's reference 314 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: to Cam Mooney in the aftermath of it's hard to 315 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: review when you brought no effort the okay, So that 316 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: gave us a really good look inside their week and 317 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: they were ready. 318 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah that made your ears prick up, didn't we all 319 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: looked at each other and said, well, that's exactly what happened, 320 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: and they probably just wiped it and said I'll trust 321 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: you to say that that's. 322 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: What happens when you don't turn up. 323 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: The exciting thing about Brisbane is they just keep getting 324 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: better and that the Ashcroft boys, every time I watched 325 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: them get better, a kid Wilmotoff halfback, just keeps getting better. 326 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: And then Rayner and William Rayler and Bailey barely touched 327 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: it in the first half and in the second half 328 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: they came to light Fletcher. So they've got this hardcore 329 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: of senior players who play at a level and these 330 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: young kids, says, keep getting better and better and better. 331 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: All right, I've held you back long enough as you've 332 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: seen a lot of Adelaide live and you've felt this building. 333 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: You've shared it with us a few times. How significant, 334 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Like you knew on Friday night that this is a 335 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: result that lasts, and then it turns out that it's 336 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: even better because for the first time since twenty seventeen, 337 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: they sit atop the table at the pointy end of 338 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: the season. 339 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: This has got the old feeling of Adelaide, the old 340 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: premiership in the old and even going back to South 341 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: Australia state footage, you do not, under any circumstance want 342 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: to play Adelaide In Adelaide. 343 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: That's where it sits right now. 344 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: Probably the team that would be best places Collegrad who 345 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: travel as well as anyone. But that's what it feels 346 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: like now having been there a lot. The club, the town, 347 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: the coach have all got justifiable confidence in their ability 348 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: because they've got blokes like Isaac Rankin that can just 349 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: come to light and tear it apart. 350 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: They've got blokes like Dawson that. 351 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: Can recognize the tone of a game, aim and change it. 352 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: They've got blokes like Taylor Walker who when his time comes, 353 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: will step up and kick clutch goals. They've got a 354 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: monster plane out of the Gold Square who's the equal 355 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,359 Speaker 3: of any of the key forwards in the competition. 356 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: And they're honest. 357 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: They appear to me, really really honest, Jared. So yeah, 358 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: we'll just having been at the Adelaide Oval and watched 359 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: them dispense with quality opposition and Hawthorne lost no admirers, 360 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: then yeah, no one's getting carried away with the premiership hopes. 361 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: If you're not talking about them. 362 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: The judgment call is whether newbies can go all the 363 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: way first time through. Are you seen enough in them 364 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: with the mixture of experience and youth and the precociousness 365 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: and the environment. 366 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. 367 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: I think it's a really open competition, which makes for 368 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: a great September. But just look at some of these 369 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: results here, Jared. So the Sons, you know, they put 370 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: paid to them in emphatic style. 371 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: We know that they've got something about them. 372 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: Hawthorne who were kicked the first five goals of the 373 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: game and look like they were on a tear. 374 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, they they're well coached, well led. They've been 375 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: down long enough. Jude. They're hungry, so a couple of 376 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: years overdue, I reckon. 377 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: So the problems it comes to full to fruition. 378 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've got all the pieces. So this is 379 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: this is going to be a super September. And you know, 380 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: the Adelaide song that beild it out those back to 381 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: back Grand Finals couldn't get out of your head for 382 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: two years. 383 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: It's been played pretty regularly. 384 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: The nasty side of Friday Night was the injury to 385 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Will Day. So we've lived the season with Will. We 386 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: know how meticulously all this was planned out, the work 387 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: that had been done by him, by the medical staff, 388 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: and for it only to last two weeks, it did 389 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: take you back to the desk here on Tuesday nights. 390 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 5: But then our team, the medical team and the club, 391 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: we had a really clear plan and it was that 392 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: Culton game that we were eyeing off and everything went 393 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 5: really smoothly and. 394 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Really happy with where it's hat. 395 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: So I yeah, go. 396 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: Into these last few games with a lot of confidence. 397 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: And it made it all the more heart wrench on 398 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Saturday when we all learned that he's out for the season. 399 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: There was just a moment in the postgame on Friday 400 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: night we were watching Ice get strapped to the top 401 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: of his foot and San Mitchell said, I didn't want 402 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: to ask because I don't want to answer where all 403 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: the fields were just all wrong around us. 404 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: He was unbelievable. That's the other thing. 405 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: In the first quarter, he was just charging around like 406 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: a man that had been hell back and hell back 407 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: and hell back. He had had nine touches, he had 408 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: six clearances, heared in the first quarter. He sort of 409 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: went to Dawson, which at the start of the game, 410 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: and you know, he's so pivotal and central to what 411 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: they're doing. 412 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: And then you see this. 413 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, and he's been with us, he's been you know, 414 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: we hand picked him as one of our young guns 415 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 3: that we wanted to sort of go on a journey 416 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: with this year. 417 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: So you invest a bit more. 418 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: I saw in pre game and he was up and 419 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: feeling pumped and looking forward to it. And then, as 420 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: I said, you sat there and watching, he tore it 421 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: to shreds. You know, nine touches, six six clearances, love 422 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: kick five in a row and you went wo up 423 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: and then this is the finish. Soiclar is a horrible word. 424 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: It was a word even back with more Plane that 425 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: you got scared about. And it's the unknown. I've heard 426 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: James heard talk about it. I've heard Matthew Eagan talk 427 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: about it. 428 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: It's just the unknown. 429 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: You think you're right. So there's no knock on I'm 430 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: not a medicao. There's no knock on the Hawthorn Footy Club. 431 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's knocking the Hawthorne Footy Club for 432 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: playing him, because history says you wait, you wait, you wait. 433 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 3: At some stage you just got to bite the bullet. 434 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 3: And they waited and waited long enough and this footy 435 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: tragedy has taken place, so he's a valuable commodity, so 436 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: they'll leave no stone unturning in it. 437 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: Right. 438 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot for Will to work through now. 439 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: He's had two season's book ended, so there's are four 440 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: serious injuries now and one of the things we quized 441 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: him on around what level of faith he held, and 442 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: he was unshakable that he would meet the markers and 443 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: not second guests himself. 444 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: It will be. 445 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Hard to live that journey again and not second guests. 446 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: Because he's living the nightmare that is the Navicular story. 447 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: Because when you hear about it and then you go 448 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: and research it, you'll see these case studies that are 449 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: very sick to what he's experiencing now. So mentally, that 450 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: would be a really tough place for that young. 451 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: Man to Willion and Harry O'Farrell is in an awful 452 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: place now the Blues, so they're two picks from last 453 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: year's drafts, have both done acl. 454 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: Se he doesn't. August has got to be just a wretched. 455 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Time for this to happen, especially. 456 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 3: Especially Yeah, it counts you out for the next year essentially, 457 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: so there's no it happens early in a year at 458 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: least you can get back and start training and you 459 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: do a full pre season. But yeah, and in what 460 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: has been a really dark period for the Carlson foota 461 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: club at which they are one of the side benefits 462 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: was there exposed so much on Thursdays and Friday nights 463 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: that we got to watch kids come into the system, 464 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: maybe ahead of their time. And I just he was 465 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: one that caught I caught a lot everyone's eye as 466 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: potentially they're center half back for the next ten years. 467 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: So anyway, there's heap suppliers that have done it. He 468 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: would know that Harry and come back and had magnificent careers. 469 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: But it did just give us a bit of a 470 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: low feeling. 471 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Didn't get ruptured. 472 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: ACL confirmed late today the giant side of the so 473 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: there was no question who the big loser of the 474 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: weekend was. There's been this idea forming that this is 475 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: the team that could storm the final series and six 476 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: eight minutes in on Thursday night just made a lie 477 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: of that. 478 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 6: Prefer it didn't happen, but we've got an opportunity to respond. 479 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 6: I'm not overly concerned. I don't think that's us and 480 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 6: it hasn't been us for a long period of time, 481 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 6: but it was tonight and so we'll review the game well, 482 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 6: move on pretty quickly and get to work on what 483 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 6: we need to work on and then try and produce 484 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 6: against Northfelder next week. 485 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: So this has been a mantra at various stages through 486 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the year for teams that's not us. But what the 487 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: hell was that? 488 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the more jarring games of the 489 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: year for me. 490 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: We're just watching it on the couch. 491 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: You just sat there going, this is four weeks out 492 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: from a final series that they've worked so hard to 493 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: position themselves in and then all the words that you 494 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: throw up that will get your headline relevant. They were insipid, 495 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: they were soft, pathetic at times and all that is 496 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: pretty jarring to hear it, particularly when you've got a 497 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 3: ferocious character like Adam Kingsley at the front. So I 498 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: suspect you'd be looking for a Brisbane lines like response. 499 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: The Lions put in an Unbrisbane performance and came out 500 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 3: and beat Collingwood at the MCG. They get North Melbourne, 501 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: so you're probably not going to learn as much. 502 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: But it was it was. 503 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: It was really shocking to watch and if You've got 504 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: the Giants as one of your favorite teams, and you 505 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: see that anyway, what we won't get an answer to 506 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: is the mindset of the group and the ability to 507 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: be up and down like that. They were up as 508 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: high as they could be and that was as low 509 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: as they've been. 510 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: All so that's the worry. 511 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Three injuries seem to do them in, and I'm interested 512 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: in the dynamics of the week before. It's a halftime 513 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: burst which inspires nearly the best quarter of the year, 514 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: and then those that's that is deep soul searching, and 515 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: it's late in the year to be doing that. 516 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: The best quarter of the year and amongst their worst 517 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: they're half against. 518 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: It was poor as well. 519 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: So find out on the broader front, as callan Ware 520 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: did announce that he has retired from his senior career. 521 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: He joined us a few days after he had done 522 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: his knee in round twelve, and he wasn't prepared to 523 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: call it right then, but he well knew his fate. 524 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: He's allowed things to settle, and this gives the Giants 525 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a moment to salute. I mean, he is one of 526 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: the founding figures. Whatever they amount to over their first 527 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: fifty one hundred years. He plays such a pivotal role 528 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: in planting that seed and fostering it as the foundation 529 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: capin whilst winning universal acclaim for the way that he 530 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: played the game. 531 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sudden him up. He's a bid no champagne. 532 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: He's a beer drinker. So now I said at the time, 533 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: when your time's up, we didn't know that it was 534 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: going to be out, but if it was, then there's 535 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: a couple of ways you can go out. And if 536 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: you go out with the universal respect, then your retirement 537 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: comes easily for you might not be easy now, but 538 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: it sits easily and comfortably. 539 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: And he's in that. 540 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Category so best and fairest and the most courageous cross 541 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: the league. So those are a couple of the medals 542 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: that he will carry into retirements. Right, those are the 543 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: threads we'll get to our coaches. 544 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: Interesting both interesting weekend, isn't. 545 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Chris Fagan got what he would have wanted out of 546 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Saturday nights as they mounted their premiership defense And for 547 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: a little while yesterday this got sticky for the Dockers. 548 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: They blasted themselves out in the final term as work 549 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: You've been camm Caesar