WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 22 October

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying New Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Sherry Gooday, Good evening. You will find out

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<v Speaker 1>in the next couple of minutes who the one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>undecided voters in the Sky News People's Forum in Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>thought and who they are going to vote for going

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<v Speaker 1>into the election, which, of course voting is on now

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<v Speaker 1>more than about half of the state. We believe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>end up voting early before the election. It all happens

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday now. Tomorrow night, we're going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>Brucebane for a special pub test featuring Peter Dutton, where

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<v Speaker 1>people will be able to ask whatever questions they want.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be viewers of this program, but we'll also obviously

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<v Speaker 1>talk in great detail about what is about to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in and around this Queensland election tonight on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>No Sooks, no Lefties, and we'll also get to the

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Meghan Kelly in a moment or two time. But

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<v Speaker 1>first let's look back on that People's Forum, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's nothing like it in Australian politics. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing these things here at Sky Newstance. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was what way back in the you know, the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven election, certainly the twenty ten and every

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<v Speaker 1>state election since. And I want to congratulate all of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who put this together because we do it

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<v Speaker 1>for the Northern Territory election, the Tazi election, we do

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<v Speaker 1>it everywhere. Right. We are a truly national station, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why we are focused on this state election. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how focused I am on what is about

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in Queensland fingers crossed a change of government.

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<v Speaker 1>Here were some of the questions. If you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>miss it, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you both plan to do to tackle the rising

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<v Speaker 2>antisemitism and hate? Please tell them when I get a

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<v Speaker 2>play of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>And where are we at with all the infrastructure?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your plans to make more affordable childcare?

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<v Speaker 3>Just tell me we're not going to run out of money,

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<v Speaker 3>because you'd tell us everything.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to be Now, I thought all of the

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<v Speaker 1>questions everything hit the usuals. But there was one question

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<v Speaker 1>in particular which wasn't just a question, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really good idea and it was in

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<v Speaker 1>relation to domestic violence. Now, obviously there is a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where women end up leaving the home because they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from what potentially in the three is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>men who are involved in the same scenarios, well, if

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<v Speaker 1>the aggressor is female. But the question from this lady

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was interesting because you've got to see the

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<v Speaker 1>two leaders respond in real time to an idea that

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<v Speaker 1>has not been front and center in the Queensland election.

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<v Speaker 1>But once you hear it kind of makes sense, at

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<v Speaker 1>least to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to ask you about this evening is if

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<v Speaker 2>either of you have got any plans to change the

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<v Speaker 2>DV laws about women having to leave their homes when

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<v Speaker 2>there's a situation. I think men need to have more

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<v Speaker 2>accountability and they need to be removed from the home

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<v Speaker 2>instead of the woman going into crisis accommodation with small children.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, great question. Now, of course both of them logs

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<v Speaker 1>important and you will see what happens. But it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to make sense, right Why not create a scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>the person who is accused of committing the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>the one who has to go and find emergency accommodation

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the person who is the apparent victim.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that particular moment. Now we've got to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the giant's scare of this election and at times

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction that much of the left wing meeting has

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<v Speaker 1>been obsessed with talking about, because as I have told

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<v Speaker 1>you for as long as I've been watching Queensland politics,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know how much I love Queensland, Labor is

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<v Speaker 1>very good at elections. Now they don't have a record

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<v Speaker 1>to run on, so much so that Anastatia Palachet was

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<v Speaker 1>pushed out the door for Stephen Miles. The Labor Party

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<v Speaker 1>has been in an election losing position for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years now because life under a Labor government well,

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<v Speaker 1>Queenslanders have run out of patience for it. So their

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<v Speaker 1>scare is to pretend that because yes, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of Conservative MPs that may well get elected as

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<v Speaker 1>part of a new government, and the Catter Australia Party

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<v Speaker 1>who is promising to bring a vote towards Parliament, towards

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<v Speaker 1>a parliament in and around the decriminalization of late term abortions,

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion issue has been one that has been wearing

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<v Speaker 1>its ugly head. I say ugly head because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>something that normally we would expect at a state election.

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<v Speaker 1>David Cristo Full has been very clear from day one

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<v Speaker 1>that there will be no change. The majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>Parliament whenever it votes, if ever it votes, well clearly

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<v Speaker 1>will affirm the previous decisions. But that doesn't mean Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Miles isn't using everything you can to try to push

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<v Speaker 1>this distraction, a distraction which is the lead story in

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<v Speaker 1>left we news sites as they try to make it

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<v Speaker 1>about this issue, not the failures on hospitals, on youth crime,

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<v Speaker 1>education and everything else of the past four years.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be no changes to abortion law and I

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<v Speaker 4>want Queenslanders to hear that directly from me.

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<v Speaker 3>Can anyone tell from David's answer just then what he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks about this issue? I mean this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>a really important issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it shouldn't change.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone knows I think it shouldn't change.

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<v Speaker 1>The laws will remain the same. Where you have a

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<v Speaker 1>conscience spoke, the laws will remain the view. There will

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<v Speaker 1>be no change.

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<v Speaker 4>So the scare campaign will continue, but you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Help direct a well, let me answer the question.

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<v Speaker 4>The scare campaign will continue, but it's not happening. Give

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<v Speaker 4>a straight answer. Okay, there will be no change, none

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<v Speaker 4>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Are your protests or not?

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<v Speaker 4>There will be no change. The legislation is there and

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<v Speaker 4>women will have access to that legislation that gives women

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<v Speaker 4>the right to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>And just in case if it needs to be made

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<v Speaker 1>any clearer, here is the yes no answer to the

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<v Speaker 1>yes no question.

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<v Speaker 3>So if there was a conscience vote, you'd vote against it.

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<v Speaker 4>Karen, there will be no change, and my team has

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<v Speaker 4>svo for it or against.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me let me answer that.

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<v Speaker 4>So the premier is talking about the vehicle to get there,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 1>You the result.

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<v Speaker 4>There will be no change to those laws, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what people need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be no change.

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<v Speaker 4>And my see, my team has backed that in all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's clear, yes, that there will be a back

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<v Speaker 1>when backing when it comes to a woman's right to choose. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Labor will keep pushing regardless of what the facts are,

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<v Speaker 1>for the next few days because it's the only issue

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to get wide and media support on.

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<v Speaker 1>So one hundred undecided voters, they had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>well decide if they have decided and whom they will

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<v Speaker 1>be voting for on Saturday, the Great Care in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 1>You can give them a million different titles. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say KG it joins us now, sun Corpse stadium where

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<v Speaker 1>his dream would be to one day get on a

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<v Speaker 1>jersey in a pair of shorts and run out onto

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<v Speaker 1>that field. But till then he will toil behind the

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<v Speaker 1>cameras here at Sky News. Great man, do we have

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<v Speaker 1>a result?

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<v Speaker 3>We do. No danker rub needed today, though for this

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<v Speaker 3>performance it was it close one. Paul. I've got to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, I think Christop fully will be pleased with

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<v Speaker 3>these numbers. So even though Miles has won thirty nine

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the room, Christoph Fooley thirty five percent, thirty

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<v Speaker 3>nine to thirty five, twenty six percent undecided. Still after

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<v Speaker 3>this hour, they're going to have to still think about

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<v Speaker 3>their vote over the next few days. But given Labor,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a stronghold for labor, Paul, Brisbane. We are

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<v Speaker 3>at sun Corpus. You said thirty three of the forty

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<v Speaker 3>two seats in Brisbane are held by labor. So the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that christp Fooley gets thirty five percent of support here,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you'd see that in itself as a victory tonight, Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>so a close one on paper, Miles wins, but you'd

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<v Speaker 3>say there's a lot of positivity to take out for

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<v Speaker 3>the lamp leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean You've hosted these things in every state,

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<v Speaker 1>the territories, and at the federal level. When you see

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of the room still undecided yet again, or

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of opinion polls have told us that

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<v Speaker 1>it's all hitting in one way. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into some details a little bit later that we all

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<v Speaker 1>know where I want it to go. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is actually going to be closer than some

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<v Speaker 1>people think. How regular is it that a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>the room walks out undecided? Well, you know you.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about this as well, that third party element, the

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<v Speaker 3>independence and the minor parties, that is a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of our political equation now. And I know what you regularly,

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<v Speaker 3>as I enjoy doing it, you do talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>a lot with One Nation or whatever it else. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that might be a component of what we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing tonight, Paul, with that twenty six percent. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>got I personally think you know the other thing is

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<v Speaker 3>when you see them and you know this, having spoken

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<v Speaker 3>to the leaders over the months and years, you know

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<v Speaker 3>who's feeling good heading into Saturday and tonight, Miles, you

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<v Speaker 3>know he's having a crack. But I've got to say

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<v Speaker 3>the sense I got was that Christoph Foley is feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like the you know for one of a better phrase,

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<v Speaker 3>that the wind is in his sale heading into Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to get there. You're right, things

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<v Speaker 3>are tightening a bit, but Christopher Fooley will be the

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<v Speaker 3>premiere come Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, funny again the relationship between the overall somebody other

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<v Speaker 1>than the major parties. Have a look at this today.

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<v Speaker 1>The Resolve poll came out via the Brisbane Times website.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you put the Greens at eleven, one Nation at

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<v Speaker 1>nine and the collection of others, guess what twenty seven percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty seven percent is the not label or liberal vote

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<v Speaker 1>in this room again about the same number. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>people who might be going in undecided, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want brand red, brand blue, so they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to find somewhere else and a really important issue, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this is why third party is an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one I'm so obsed. Right, it's all well and

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<v Speaker 1>good for a quarter of people to vote something other

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<v Speaker 1>than the two major parties, right, it's what they do

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<v Speaker 1>with their preferences. Now, if people follow how to vote cards,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that when the conservative parties basically anti the

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<v Speaker 1>city government. It's going to help the LNP to help

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<v Speaker 1>change the government. The Greens are going to not play

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<v Speaker 1>well in the bush, but they're going to play pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well in the southeast. And as we've noticed about Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>bloody big place, but an awful lot of seats in

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<v Speaker 1>that southeast. So that's really fascinating to me that basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one organization using it started to go one way.

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<v Speaker 1>Our room, we've come to the same conclusion. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a quarter of the vote, who they put second?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Labour Party under Palachet made this a compulsory,

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<v Speaker 1>compulsory preferences election, that's going to really open the door

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<v Speaker 1>where I think LNP in some seats. In fact, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into the detail in a second, they will be

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<v Speaker 1>praying for the preferences of the Conservatives and the showing

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<v Speaker 1>of the Greens. That's what Labour ne needs to have

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<v Speaker 1>a hope of minority.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, indeed, And the other one of those things that

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<v Speaker 3>jumped out of me tonight wonderful questions, I thought, Paul

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<v Speaker 3>from the audience, but the one from the young Jewish

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<v Speaker 3>woman who said, what will you do to combat NDI Semitism?

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<v Speaker 3>And this is an issue I think which is relevant

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<v Speaker 3>to what you're talking about when it comes to the Greens.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wonder how some of those leafy suburbs, say

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<v Speaker 3>smaller Liberals would be feeling about some of the behavior

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of that particular minor party in recent months.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see on Saturday how it transpires, whether they do

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<v Speaker 3>get the number of seats that they're talking about, but

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<v Speaker 3>some of the language, some of the message from Green's elements,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be particularly in New South Wales, we know

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<v Speaker 3>of a few in the Federal Parliament as well. There's

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<v Speaker 3>been elements of Eddie Semitism, and I just wonder how

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<v Speaker 3>people in the leafy suburbs of Brisbane react to that

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<v Speaker 3>when otherwise they might be leaning towards a vote for

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<v Speaker 3>the minor party.

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<v Speaker 1>My oath congrats on tonight. We look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday five pm, because I remember the time zones

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<v Speaker 1>are all different. Five pm is when you can see

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<v Speaker 1>things in the East as they start to roll out

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<v Speaker 1>in Queensland. Keep the earpcing because I've got a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of data for you that I think might turn

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<v Speaker 1>up in the coverage. I look forward to being a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. On Saturday night, mate, I'll be wearing

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<v Speaker 1>shorts business up top, shorts down the bottom, I guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you KG. That's by the way most of the shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you mate, Thank you KG. We love that man.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to start to talk about something here

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<v Speaker 1>because again my belief need to change the government. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>My belief was that four years ago. Of course COVID

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<v Speaker 1>ended up meaning that the Labor Party held on to

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<v Speaker 1>a majority. No, I a massive one, but they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with a majority. Now, Queensland as a political map

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<v Speaker 1>is three different places. The southeast where there's an awful

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<v Speaker 1>lot of seats. Why because that's where the population is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if your definition is the Sunshine Coast down to Cool

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<v Speaker 1>and Gatter, that's pretty much like three quarters of the

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<v Speaker 1>seats in Queensland. If you just want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Brucebe and split out the Sunny Coast and the Gold Coast,

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<v Speaker 1>both of those can be a little bit more conservative

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally ending up going blue. And then of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>the regional parts where population centers. The two biggest would

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<v Speaker 1>be Cans that's got a couple of MPs, but Townsville

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<v Speaker 1>has got a couple of seats in and around that zone,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing places like Keppel. There's many elections within an election,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I want to show you the preferred premier

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<v Speaker 1>number that has come out of the Resolve poll today.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it shows that the preserve that the preferred premier

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<v Speaker 1>according to the polls during the election campaign has gone

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<v Speaker 1>from a wide margin against Miles to now it being

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<v Speaker 1>kinder or very close to fifty to fifty. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that happening? Because study this graphic seven Miles as preferred premier.

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<v Speaker 1>His strength comes from metropolitan areas. Now metropolitan areas, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the exact definition here, whether we're just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Brisbane or whether we're talking about Risbane, Gold Coast, Townsville,

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<v Speaker 1>cans Okay. I sort of built up the built up

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<v Speaker 1>bits of Queensland, but you can see the second you

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<v Speaker 1>get into regional areas, huge drop off. What the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of ten points and a three point rise in

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<v Speaker 1>the number for David Crucifuley. But again interesting to look

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<v Speaker 1>here a week to go, twenty one percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>in metropolitan Queensland won't say which way who the preferred

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<v Speaker 1>premier is. Now again this poll shows twenty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the primary vote sits somewhere other than the LNP

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<v Speaker 1>or the Labor Party. When it comes to again those

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<v Speaker 1>regional areas, that numbers even higher at twenty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because catter Australia and one Nation do better in

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<v Speaker 1>regional areas, which is why the overall picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>state is crucifully thirty nine miles thirty seven to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five still to decide. Which brings me to this and

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to say this because you know

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<v Speaker 1>what result I want. I think this thing is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be closer than people think because the task for

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<v Speaker 1>the LMP is they have to win twelve seats to

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<v Speaker 1>win a majority government. Now, let's show you where those

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<v Speaker 1>twelve seats are, because the closer they are to Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 1>they are harder for the LNP to win. Now, according

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<v Speaker 1>to this the Labor Party has nine seats across the

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<v Speaker 1>state that are under a margin of five percent. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>that up because I'll basically talk around those numbers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Labour has four seats between five and six percent, six

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<v Speaker 1>seats between six and eight percent. Where are those seats, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>ten of them are in regional Queensland. They need twelve

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<v Speaker 1>to become the government Okay, let's imagine they win them all,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still too short of a majority government. Two are

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<v Speaker 1>on the Sunshine Coast. Now the Sunshine Coast flipped in

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<v Speaker 1>part because of COVID. The assumption is that those would

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the LNP. But a Teal mayor was

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<v Speaker 1>elected on the Sunshine Coast, will they get the two

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<v Speaker 1>from there? Okay, very close to sorry, the southeast generally,

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<v Speaker 1>where again we're going to take everything from a little

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<v Speaker 1>further down from the Sunshine Coast, a little further out

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<v Speaker 1>from Brisbane, and a little further under towards the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's four seats. Again, if they win one on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunshine Coast, one on the Southeast, then they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the twelve. Right, they're going to get a majority government.

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<v Speaker 1>But to go beyond the majority number, if three are

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<v Speaker 1>still in Brisbane, four are in the Southeast, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to this pole, the preferred premiere in those areas is miles,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe the best they can hope for is twelve, thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seats as opposed to a giant change, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many that they have to win frankly between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then, so I don't want to panic anyone, But

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't want to play fool's goal. Should there

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<v Speaker 1>be a change of government, Yes, is Stephen Miles the

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<v Speaker 1>bloke who should be the remaining Premier of Queensland. No,

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<v Speaker 1>should Shannon Fentaman continue to look over a health system

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<v Speaker 1>that is the shambles that it is the first question

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<v Speaker 1>in the People's Forum tonight was about a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>had family members that were being misdiagnosed or being told

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<v Speaker 1>that I look, you've just got an in large bladder

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<v Speaker 1>because you're old. Reality, it was cancer in regional areas.

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<v Speaker 1>As I've told you before, there are rolled gold examples

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<v Speaker 1>of people in Queensland who when you call an ambulance

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<v Speaker 1>in regional Queensland, one paramedic who's driving the ambulance turns

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<v Speaker 1>up And if you want the ambulance to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the hospital, they need a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the public to be able to drive that ambulance. When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the overall health system in and around Ramping,

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<v Speaker 1>it has got worse, not better. In fact, right now

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<v Speaker 1>the worst numbers Queensland has ever had youth crime. That

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<v Speaker 1>question should answer itself. But again that youth crime issue

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<v Speaker 1>is particularly strong in regional areas, and yes, there are

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<v Speaker 1>enough seats to slowly but surely get them to wards majority.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start to set some expectations. Winning twelve

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<v Speaker 1>seats is a hercule an effort because there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many bands of the percentages that you need. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get ten of them in the areas where the LNP

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<v Speaker 1>is polling very well, but you also need the preferences

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<v Speaker 1>the number two for the Catter Australia voters or the

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<v Speaker 1>number two from the One Nation people. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>James Ashby about that. Of course, he's a candidate in

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<v Speaker 1>the seat of Keppel, so watch this space. While it

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<v Speaker 1>has been a dishonest campaign full of lies, the closer

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<v Speaker 1>you get to Brisbane, the harder it is for the

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<v Speaker 1>LMP to start flipping seats. Thankfully there are enough outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Brisbane. But the reason it may not be over

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as the polls are closed is because of

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<v Speaker 1>the three different Queenslands that will be voting on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see the coverage here on Sky News. Anasaja Palachet,

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<v Speaker 1>who I Know you love, and Campbell Newman, who I

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<v Speaker 1>Know you really love, will be here on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see it all starting at five o'clock Eastern, given

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<v Speaker 1>them time differences and all the rest of it, you

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<v Speaker 1>will start to see the results coming through and I

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to being part of the coverage. Laura Jayson.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be there side by side as always, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to add to the coverage that of course includes the

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Peter Kredlin. So big night ahead on Saturday Night, Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how much I love you and I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to being there for the next few days. Now

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night as well. Don't forget that pub test, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton joining us as the alternative Prime Minister to take

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<v Speaker 1>questions from the public. If you've got some questions, you

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<v Speaker 1>can send them. You might not get to ask them yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but we might ask them on your behalf pub test.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonews dot com dot au. So I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to spend too much time on Lydia Thorpe because we

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<v Speaker 1>did the right thing last night and talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>as the embarrassment that it was. But I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention two things you saw today two indigenous leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw Lydia Thorpe taking a victory lab for the

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<v Speaker 1>way that she behaved in Canberra yesterday. A behavior that

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<v Speaker 1>has been admonished by indigenous leaders, including indigenous leaders of

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<v Speaker 1>the left today who were very much pro voice. So

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<v Speaker 1>we know where Lydia Thorpe is and it's right out

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<v Speaker 1>on the edges. Lydia Thorpe of course has said that

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<v Speaker 1>she's not planning to be re elected, so she's just

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<v Speaker 1>there to be a protest for the next four years.

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<v Speaker 1>But how did Australia actually respond Because my central frustration

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<v Speaker 1>with what she did yesterday was that this made massive

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<v Speaker 1>international news and I don't want people in the UK

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<v Speaker 1>to think that she represents anyone but herself largely and

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<v Speaker 1>a very small number of people who want an antagonistic

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<v Speaker 1>relationship when it comes to these issues. So guess what

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people decided to turn up today for their

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<v Speaker 1>royal highnesses when they were in and around Sydney Harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it four hundred thousand people know, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a significant number of people and way more than Lydia

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<v Speaker 1>Thorpe had support in that room. Remember the silence after

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<v Speaker 1>she carried on the way she carried on. Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who turned up in the sunshine to day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done Sydney for turning on the weather about time

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<v Speaker 1>of got Boody warmed too.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say welcome to Australia and that I come

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<v Speaker 2>from Cornwall and I know nan Sladen as a township

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<v Speaker 2>which he was the architect for.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh fantastic. I can't wait to see them, can't. I

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<v Speaker 5>just here to support want to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep going, you love for I love it. Happy people, sunshine.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not have a little bit of the good news

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<v Speaker 1>story as opposed to the nonsense. But then, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you have another example of indigenous leadership, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>one that is absolutely about walking arm in arm with people,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what their family's histories are, towards a bright

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<v Speaker 1>and clear future. And that's of course to Enter Price.

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<v Speaker 1>As she was at the ARC conference that was taking

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<v Speaker 1>place in Sydney today. This is the meeting of smart

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<v Speaker 1>conservatives like herself that took place in the UK last year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's happening in Sydney as we speak. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what she had to say today. And I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I get in behind her worldview. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme majority of Australians do as opposed to Lydia Thorpe,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the one making headlines.

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<v Speaker 6>It's important to understand about who we are as a

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<v Speaker 6>country from our history, and not for the purpose of

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<v Speaker 6>weaponizing that history against anybody, but just to have a

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<v Speaker 6>better understand of who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So a quick little message to all of those royal

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<v Speaker 1>reporters who know doubt I'll be watching us in the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel rooms getting ready for another day. Make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about this issue in this week, you

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<v Speaker 1>find time to play grabs a disenterprice Centerprice is where

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<v Speaker 1>sixty percent of Australians were when it came to the voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just Enterprise is the person who would be a major

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<v Speaker 1>reason why Australia would want to change the government because

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<v Speaker 1>we want that woman towards the front of Australian leadership

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly in charge of the Indigenous Afairs portfolio. I

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<v Speaker 1>want her in a cabinet. Her potential is again to

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<v Speaker 1>go as far as her career will let her go,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is in this country, all the way to

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<v Speaker 1>leadership and potentially the Prime minister ship. I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>that good.

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<v Speaker 7>Another example, so when the going gets tough, we band

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<v Speaker 7>together and we do have an Australian spirit and I

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<v Speaker 7>think in more recent times that spirit has been diminished

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<v Speaker 7>because of the politics of radical leftists who want to

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<v Speaker 7>categorize us and label us all and clamp us all

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<v Speaker 7>together in particular groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Now spoking of the type of leadership that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>all that excited about the Prime minister. Another pole pops

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<v Speaker 1>up today. It tells a grim story about where the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister is and where labor is months out from

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<v Speaker 1>an election. Surprise surprise buying a four point three million

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<v Speaker 1>dollar holiday house because your missus is are coast. Does

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<v Speaker 1>it really go down well with people? This pole, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, did not come from a far right wing

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<v Speaker 1>thin tank. It comes from the turbul Times. The essential

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<v Speaker 1>poll published in the Guardian. Here is the primary vote.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the primary vote of the parties compared to

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<v Speaker 1>twelve months ago. The LNP is up three to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five Labours down five to twenty eight percent. That is shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>They will lose plenty of seats to the Greens, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the LNP or the Liberal National Party depending on

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<v Speaker 1>where you are in the country. The Greens not surging again.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that their issues when it came to renting

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<v Speaker 1>would be helping, but their overall vote is down. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because as Kieran Gilbert had said before they have associated

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with some pretty ugly stuff. The Independence are up

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<v Speaker 1>by two percent. One Nation is up one percent, seven percent,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>UAP is at two percent. We don't know what factor

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<v Speaker 1>they will be at the next election, but that's certainly

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<v Speaker 1>two percent that will be floating around. That matches when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to preferences. And six percent of people remain undecided.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and you know how the Liberal Party apparently has

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with women, Well, guess with this poll shows

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party does, because according to men, the primary

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<v Speaker 1>vote for the Liberal Party thirty seven percent, Labor Party

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty one. Guess which has a lower number just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six percent of women. A quarter of women in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>say that their first preference vote will be for Albow

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<v Speaker 1>and his mates. That is a damning figure. So they

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<v Speaker 1>can carry on as much as they want about how

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<v Speaker 1>big a problem Peter Dutton is and the Liberal Party's

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<v Speaker 1>problem with women the Labor Party. Just a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>all women surveyed by the Guardian say that they are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to vote for the Labor Party should an election

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<v Speaker 1>be held anytime soon. By the way, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership, again, four point three million dollars because you

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<v Speaker 1>know Jerdie's accosty Judie Sacosti. The Prime Minister is sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a place where forty eight percent of people disapprove

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<v Speaker 1>with his prime ministership. That is up five points in

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<v Speaker 1>a year. The approvals down and they don't know number

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.959
<v Speaker 1>is down. So literally don't know when to disapprove, approve,

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<v Speaker 1>when to disapprove. There's only one thing that's growing and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the disapproval with the Prime Minister. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but Peter Dutton's the problem. Peter dun't. Peter dun't. Peter dun't.

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Petter dunn't. He's got all the problems right, he's more unpopular. No,

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<v Speaker 1>his approval level is up nine points in twelve months

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<v Speaker 1>to forty five percent. His disapproval is down four points

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't know number. This is really big. They

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know number didn't get put onto the disapproved. It

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>walked straight from dun'now to approve in twelve months. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Labour Party may well have a plan that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go all after Peter Dutton all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Reality is he is not the unpopular one. The prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister is the unpopular one. The Liberal Party does not

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<v Speaker 1>have its problem with women according to this poll. It

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>is the Labor Party. But the media, which of course

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<v Speaker 1>will follow the dirt unit that the government's going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to set up, will try to do their best.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems at this point in time where their

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<v Speaker 1>challenge of being able to hold on to a majority,

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<v Speaker 1>in my view, is gone. We are now talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how big that minority government is going to be. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a breaking point on how low they can go.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe housing might be the issue that some people think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to magically turn around and save the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly lefty organizations are obsessed with negative gearing and have

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<v Speaker 1>been for the past well few years because in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Bill Shorten, well, he was going to make

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>everything better when it came to negative gearing, but then

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Australians rejected it. Right but just the same way they've

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<v Speaker 1>rejected his climate target. It just got lipstick on a

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<v Speaker 1>pig and that's what they put up in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope I was going to the next election

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five they'll do something about negative gearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hence why the Sydney Morning Herald was the one leading

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<v Speaker 1>the charge that secret talks were underway trying to force

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>this into an issue. It's won. The government claims they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go anywhere near it and sorry, after

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<v Speaker 1>story after story by the Channeline newspapers follows along with

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<v Speaker 1>what clearly is their position, which is that negative gearing

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<v Speaker 1>needs to change. How the problem is. Somebody should tell

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<v Speaker 1>them to check out a pole that appeared in the

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>other news outlet that is owned by nine Sidney Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 1>The Freshwater Pole shows forty four percent of people support

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>negative gearing as it currently is, thirty nine percent oppose

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen percent are up for grabs. So yes, eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>dropped on top of thirty nine gets you over fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course it ain't going to be that. So

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<v Speaker 1>if it ends up being a scenario, well, let's imagine

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<v Speaker 1>it goes fifty to fifty oh eighteen percent half of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be enough for the supporting of negative gearing

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<v Speaker 1>and thus no change to still be the majority position

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<v Speaker 1>of Australia. Funny about that, Australians, when we say something,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of mean it. We did about negative gearing

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and negative gearing changes in twenty nineteen. Those who think, oh, look,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>we can just shuffle to this and shuffle to that.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Guess what no reality is. If even half of those

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know split fifty to fifty, the majority would be

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<v Speaker 1>in favor to break it down by age, gender, and

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>renters and people have paid off the houses. Thank you

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for this detail that again comes from the city, from

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the financial review. The people who own a house or

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to pay it off, fifty three percent they

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<v Speaker 1>don't change the system fifty six percent For those that

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<v Speaker 1>have paid off the house. Unsurprisingly, forty four percent of

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>renters say the system should change. A property investor sixty

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>four percent says, please don't change it. Somebody who doesn't

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.239
<v Speaker 1>have an investment property but may well be paying off

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>or owns her own house pretty much fifty to fifty

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>or forty forty there. When it comes to young people,

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it is in favor of a change until thirty four.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Then it's even at thirty five, and then over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five it is clearly in favor of the system that

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>currently exists. But you know nothing to see here, However,

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Australia voted a few years ago. Don't expect it to

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<v Speaker 1>change again now let's get to the United States, where

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<v Speaker 1>again we are rather excited because we are within that

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<v Speaker 1>two week window. Tomorrow is two weeks to go till

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 1>the American election. I won't bore you with too much

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>data tonight because I wanted to focus in and around Queensland. Now. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Silver, guy I've spoken about a lot. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who got it really wrong in twenty sixteen

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>when he was running one of those websites predicting seven

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>percent this and twenty percent chance of this. He was

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>suggesting Hillary would win based off the data. He got

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>bitten on the backside. He tweeted this today about the

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<v Speaker 1>closing days of this election. Not sure to what extent

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's intentional, but the last couple of weeks feel twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen ish. Trump is dominating the news coverage with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of stunts that aren't really issues that Harris wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be closing on. So let's compare where things were

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>four years ago when Trump lost and eight years ago

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>when Trump won. In twenty twenty, Biden led by seven

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and a half points nationally, Harris leads by less than

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>one percent. Hillary nationally was leading by six point two

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>yet lost Hillary was leading, as you can see in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, or we all know that all of those

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>did not end up coming home. In fact, Florida we

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>all know was very pro Trump in the end. Biden

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>was leading all bar one state in the Swing States

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>four years ago. Now all bar what one of the

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>states currently Trump is leading. So Clinton isn't just outperforming

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris and she was in a losing campaign. Biden,

0:29:54.360 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>who only just won the states in the swing, well,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>he was leading by way more than she is. But now,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>according to the polls, Trump is in the position where

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>he is leading, meaning if it's twenty sixteen ish, the

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>people who think that the Poles are heading their way

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>are the Trump people who would be surprised by a

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Harris victory. We'll talk about that with Meg and Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later, but when you want to compare

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, you can just watch them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done to whoever edited this.

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<v Speaker 8>I am second tired of the negative diadarind of vial, dangerous,

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<v Speaker 8>hazier than be in.

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<v Speaker 3>Your line of people, who's a poor Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>It is time for.

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<v Speaker 4>Us to say no, we are.

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<v Speaker 8>Not going backwards, We're going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's the way she's closing. She thinks things are different.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight years later, the polls say no. It's twenty sixteen ish.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick break back with more. You're on Paul Murray Live,

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<v Speaker 1>No Sorts, No Left East tonight we'll talk about Queensland,

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>but lot more and then Meghan Kelly before we've done.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget tomorrow night, special edition of the program, A

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>pub test from Brisbane. All right, thank you so much

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>for watching Meghan Kelly in a couple of minutes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it all right now with James Ashby of

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<v Speaker 1>course running for one Nation doing so in the seat

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<v Speaker 1>of Keppel. I'm reading good things. The man's getting close.

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<v Speaker 1>We back him all the way he comes with the

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Paul Murray bump. All right, don't even worry about the

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>hat of ites, just go in and back him in.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>And the lovely Holly Hughes, of course is always here

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to help joining us. Well, she should be in the

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>man cave, but I think something's broken, so I appreciate

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you being here anyway, my friend. And now James, I

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>want to talk before we get into to your sense

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>of things and minor party vote all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to explain to people about what is the

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<v Speaker 1>maths of this election. Okay, for the LMP to become

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the governor, they need twelve seats. Ten of those are

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>in regional areas. They will of course not win all

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>of those. The assumption would be one nation has a

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>good crack of those, KAP has a good crack at those,

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe in a d independent or so. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>to start moving a little bit closer to Brisbane. The

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<v Speaker 1>closer you get to Brisbane, the harder it is for

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the LNP to win a seat. And as we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>in the polling during the campaign, Miles has somehow been

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<v Speaker 1>able to fortify himself the closer against to Brisbane. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this thing is going to be close and

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<v Speaker 1>the best case for the LMP is falling over the

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<v Speaker 1>line rather than bursting through the line.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's starting to appear that way, and largely because

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<v Speaker 9>I've seen a tactic on these polling booths over the

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<v Speaker 9>last couple of days, in particular the end of last

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<v Speaker 9>week and the start of this week, where now the

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 9>unions are starting to get involved and they are really

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 9>playing hardball. They're sending a message out there to voters

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 9>that a coalition government, any conservative is going to criminalize abortions.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 9>And it's just a false narrative, but it seems to

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 9>be working. There's AD's been run everywhere and it's clearly

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 9>working down in the inner city parts or the southeast corner.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 9>Now it's just a lie, But these are the tactics

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 9>that Labor use. But not to mention Paul, the tactics

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 9>of lies are now starting to appear within the LMP.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how.

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<v Speaker 9>Desperate the two major parties have become as we go

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<v Speaker 9>into the final four days. This is what arrived in

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<v Speaker 9>letterboxes in Keppel. Don't risk it suggesting that if you

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<v Speaker 9>vote for one nation, we're going to support Labor. Now

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 9>I've said it from that David arm On, that we

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 9>are going to port we're going to put Labor and

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<v Speaker 9>the Greens last, and it's been said for ever in

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<v Speaker 9>a day, it's the most dishonest campaign from the l MP.

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<v Speaker 9>It proves to me how low they're prepared to go

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<v Speaker 9>win at any cost in a seat like this, and

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<v Speaker 9>I think a lot of people in seats like Keppel

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<v Speaker 9>will not appreciate the dishonesty from David Chris and fully

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<v Speaker 9>and more importantly Ben Riley, who's running the campaign, he

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 9>signed off on this. Now, if you want mates and politics,

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 9>don't ask for the L ANDP, go for a dog

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<v Speaker 9>because so you're not going to get honesty out of

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<v Speaker 9>either of the major parties. And this is what frustrates

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 9>people because when they get in they tell big porky pies.

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 9>You know, the police service working perfectly fine, the hospital

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 9>system working perfectly fine. It's not And we just need

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 9>a bit of honesty because if we're going to get change,

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 9>you've got to be honest with yourself as politicians because

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 9>only then can we impact change in regional parts as

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 9>well as in the southeast corner. So it's a real

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 9>desperate ploy at the moment. I know both parties are

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<v Speaker 9>desperate to govern in their own right, but if they

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 9>need to use the minor parties to stumble across the line, look,

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 9>one nation going to be your best friend for then

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 9>they can't see it. They see us as the enemy

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 9>for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And again this is the absurdity, right, which is that

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 1>if you squeeze too hard, then again, if it does

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>come down to very specific negotiations one two people, it

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>can end up in weird places. Holly again, you know,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I only ever profess to be as best as possible, streets, smarts,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, all around of it. But if I've got

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it right about the nature of Queensland, right, that it's

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a bloody big place. But because so many people live

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in the southeast, that's where the seats are. If you've

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>got to win twelve, you can't just assume you're going

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to do it all north of the sunny coast. What

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think about the way labor is closing and

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>this particular tactic. I think it's as big a lie

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>as medi scare, but I think it could be almost

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>as successful about pushing this right to the line.

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<v Speaker 8>It's an extraordinary debate point or argument that's being put.

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 8>And we're not America, but there seems to be this

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 8>desperation to inject American style politics and American issues into

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 8>our political narrative. It just is extraordinary to me. I've

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 8>watched most of the debate before I head out here,

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 8>and I couldn't believe the length of time spent debating

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 8>the issue of abortion. I mean, it just beggars belief

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 8>in a state like Queensland that we know we saw

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 8>during COVID, how ill prepared they are, how bad their

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 8>hospital system is, and the youth crime, and that is

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 8>north of Brisbane. I know when you get up to Townsville,

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 8>and my geography is not great, James, so I'm sorry

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 8>you know where you are and this sort of without

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 8>having a map up there. But we know that the

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 8>youth crime is a significant issue and that there are

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 8>horrible cases that have occurred. I find it extraordinary that

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 8>anyone would look to reward or labor and put them

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 8>back in again. I am I have to say, James,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 8>I am horrified that that brochure came out saying that

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 8>one nation would put that would put labor and the

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 8>Greens above the LMP. With that is that is actually

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 8>quite breathtaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ridiculous. And also got to think about a scenarios

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 1>that the federal elections coming around and those one nation

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>preferences are going to matter, that UAP preferences are going

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 1>to matter. And just because something plays you know, well

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in Fortitude Valley or in you know, Fitzroy and Melbourne

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>where your actual numbers are all right, guys, we could

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>go on all the way through. If anyone wants more information,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>how do they find it about your candidacy, James. I

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>want people to be able to read up before they

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>go and vote, particularly in Keppel on Saturday, Paul.

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 9>They can just go to James Ashby dot com AU

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 9>or my Facebook page. And I want to make one

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 9>last point, Paul, I think this is really important. I

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 9>know there's not many Labor viewers out there, but anyone

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 9>that may regularly vote for Labor, you need to understand

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 9>they're going to lose likely this election, and they've decided

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 9>to give their preferences to the Greens and the LNPs.

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 9>So if the imp trip across the line, it's because

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 9>Labor gave the opposition their preferences. Really important for any

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 9>Labor member or Labor voter to remember. So go to

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 9>my website, James Ashby dot com do AU if you

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 9>want to find out more.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Good Man good Plug always happen to back you in.

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I really like James has been very kind to us

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. I want you to work

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>get behind him in the seat of Kempel. All right,

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to national issues. Holly. You saw me

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 1>mention before about the inner details of this essential poll

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>where according to their poll today, Labor has a lower

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>vote with women than the LNP. There's a greater disapproval

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>with Anthony Abernezi than Peter Dutton. We know that an

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>election is not this weekend, but we're on our way

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>towards one. We are starting to get into a place

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>where Labor is going to have to do something extraordinary

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.439
<v Speaker 1>to change the subject here. And I don't know they've

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>got it in it. They've already tried two little too

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>late tax cuts. I don't know what they've got, but

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have to take in something pretty big

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's not going to be uga booger about Peter Dutton.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think they've got a hail Mary out on

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 8>getting a rate cut or some sort of massive reversal

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 8>fortunes in people's economic circumstances. We know the cost of

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.959
<v Speaker 8>living is the number one, two, three, four and five

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 8>issue for most Australian families, and I think they are

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 8>just absolutely hanging out that somehow or other there is

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 8>a change of fortune. I think what was really interesting

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 8>in that poll is how low their primary vote has gone.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 8>It is now significantly lower than it was when they

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 8>won the last election, and that is you know, it's

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 8>really concerning from the major party's perspective how low the

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 8>primary votes are going. Certainly the LMP's gone up a

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 8>little bit, but they're still you know, going back to

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 8>my campaigning days twenty years ago, when it used to

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.959
<v Speaker 8>kind of be forty labor, forty liberal, you know, twenty

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:32.959
<v Speaker 8>percent in the middle. It's just it's nothing like that now.

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's really problematic because you are going

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 8>to see these sort of messy parliaments, hung parliaments that

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 8>are going to be really difficult to navigate going through.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.439
<v Speaker 8>When they do need to be big reforms, there does

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 8>need to be big discussions. Yet you can't have the

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 8>big discussions when you've got you know, a lot of

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 8>lunatics running in the asylum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, thankfully. Look, it's not great for the state,

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>but at least it's not Upper House in Queensland. So

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you formed numbers downstairs. That's it for the next four years.

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>So should you be a majority or if it ends

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>up being a minority, well, it's always fun to watch

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 1>every day now, James. We've talked before about medical cannabis.

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>One nation's actually led the way in terms of people's

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>availability to it, But there are some examples where some

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>people seem to be taking the piss in the way

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>that say people in California used to before it was legalized, right,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>which is get the doctor's prescription where you say, yeah,

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>i've got really sore eyes. Oh great, tick and flick,

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you can go and get it right. And according to

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a story today, one Australian doctor was prescribing twelve thousand

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>patients cannabis scripts in a six month period. Now there's

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 1>ways to get this stuff online. It's all legal, it's

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>all above board. What does this tell you? Obviously a

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of people want access to it. Let's all assume

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>each and every one of them deserve it. But I

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>don't reckon one doctor in twelve thousand is the way

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to do it, well, Paul.

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 9>The reason one Nation supported this from twenty sixteen, when

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 9>we'd run a very strong campaign to make sure that

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 9>we legalized and put in place the doctors who could

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 9>prescribe legal cannabis for medical purposes was because it's good

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 9>for pallative care patients, cancer patients, people who've got muscle

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 9>spasms and PTSD, those sorts of things. They're genuine medical

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 9>needs and rather than people up on opioids. Why we

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 9>decided this was because opioids. There's one hundred and fifty

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 9>people presented to hospit one hundred every single day through opioids.

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 9>Three people every day die because of it, and so

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 9>that's the narrative we went down. It's a common sense approach. Look,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 9>if people are over prescribing by all means, look into them.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 9>But please do not throw out medical cannabis in this country.

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:46.280
<v Speaker 9>It is dearly needed and it's a much better option

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 9>than we can opioids.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, thank you, I do appreciate it. We

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>will resume the conversation again next week. Megan Kelly straight

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 1>after the break. For the time of the week, I'm

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>sure it's yours two. As we talked to Megan Kelly,

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>host of The Megan Kelly Show in the United States,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>two weeks to go. Now. I thought Kamala was all

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>about joy and vibes, but the actual closing message is

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>more like Biden in a pantsuit. Basically, Trump is evil,

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Trump is awful, and she's taking out on the road

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Dick Cheney's daughter. This doesn't look like the team that's winning,

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 1>does it.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 5>It's yes, of course, it's all turned forget the joy now,

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:28.399
<v Speaker 5>it's all negative about Trump and parading Liz Cheney out there.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 5>They really want to get the Liz Cheney Republicans. Well

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 5>you did Liz Cheney and her dad, Dick Cheney. Those

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 5>are the Liz Cheney Republicans. That the list does not

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 5>go on past those two. So you can parade Liz

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Cheney around all you want to, all these road stops

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 5>and rallies. They're convincing no one. That's not persuasive. So

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 5>then her other goal is reportedly to get Nicky Haley Republicans,

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 5>to get those say twenty percent in the primaries who

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 5>voted for Nicki Haley and did not vote for Trump.

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:02.320
<v Speaker 5>Those people do not Trump. When it's a Trump Kamala

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 5>Harris race. They preferred a more neo conversion of conservatism,

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 5>and they might have preferred someone who is less dramatic

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 5>and controversial than Trump, but that does not bring you,

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 5>as a Republican into Kamala Harris territory. They're just pretending

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 5>that it does. The problem for them is there's no

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 5>more democratic base to stimulate. The men have fled. All

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 5>they're left with is defeat men who don't mind being

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 5>cast as beta asparagus kale eating Barack Obama types, and

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 5>all the alphas have left for the Republican Party because

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 5>they've been shamed for the fact that they are men,

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 5>never mind white men, never mind white men who might

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.280
<v Speaker 5>actually have jobs and be traditional and want to get married.

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 5>So they've fled the party and now they're trying to

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 5>run those numbers up with the women. But there's only

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 5>so far those numbers can go. They're not all women

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 5>are lefties. Many women who are more conservative they're going

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 5>to vote Trump, and so they've hit this wall. They

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 5>can't get black men, they can't get Hispanic men. So

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 5>they're circling the wagons doing whatever they can. But it's

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:15.320
<v Speaker 5>literally down to like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley Republicans,

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 5>which is a either very small or non gettible pool

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 5>for her.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Now. A bit of a theme in tonight show is

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>not to be defeatists, but to explain when two things

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>can happen, two things can happen, meaning yes, despite the

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that it all looks like it's going Trump's way

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and we'd all like it to go Trump's way, those

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of us that are having this conversation or watching us

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Telly. Reality is we could wake up and

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Harris ends up winning. So let's have the chat before

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that might happen. What can you see that maybe isn't

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>as obvious to everyone else if she does win, about

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>how she's winning.

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 5>No, it's a good question because you don't want to

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 5>be surprised, and we could be because it's so tight,

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 5>notwithstanding in the fact that Trump's leading in all those pulls,

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 5>it's by a little it's tight. Take tay tape. Yeah,

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.280
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you what I think it is. First of all,

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 5>all the people I talked to her are on the

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 5>ground trying to get people out to vote on Team Trump,

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.759
<v Speaker 5>and are you know, really running hurt on that in

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 5>several states are telling me the same thing, fifty to fifty.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 5>It's fifty to fifty. We need everyone to get out everyone.

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 5>So they're not breathing a sigh of relief at all.

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 5>No one's getting back to me with he's running away

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 5>with it. And even I've talked to top top pollsters

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 5>who are more on the inside than they are the

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 5>out who say the same thing. They don't say he's losing.

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.280
<v Speaker 5>They don't say he's going to lose. They say it

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 5>couldn't be any tighter, and they're you know, nervous, not

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 5>because they think he's going to lose, but because it's

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 5>too tight for comfort. So that's one thing. Secondly, there

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 5>is a real question about whether they did fix the polls.

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 5>They overpolled Dems back in twenty sixteen. That's why we

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 5>had these huge margins for Hillary Clinton when we all

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.240
<v Speaker 5>found out later Trump won because they were over sampling Dems,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 5>and in particular were sampling college educated Dems, which is

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 5>entirely a DEM group, right, Demo. Those are not Trump's

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 5>bans or his voters. So then they thought they fixed

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 5>it in twenty twenty, but you know it was those

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 5>poles were wrong too. They had Joe Biden way up.

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Joe Biden did not win by those margins.

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<v Speaker 5>I just read to you, you know, seven point eight,

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<v Speaker 5>seven point five.

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<v Speaker 7>It was tight.

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<v Speaker 5>It was very tight. As you know, we won by

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<v Speaker 5>about forty thousand votes in the swing states. So they

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<v Speaker 5>may have done a little better, but they weren't fixed.

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<v Speaker 5>And then they said well, yeah, by twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 5>they had removed the over inclusion of DEM inclined voters,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's why we had a predicted red wave that

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<v Speaker 5>never materialized, because they fixed the polls by twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two to factor in more Republican voters. But we can't

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<v Speaker 5>rely on that because Trump was not on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 5>and Trump, as the world knows, is a very unique force.

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<v Speaker 5>And Trump without a ballot without Trump isn't entirely different

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<v Speaker 5>animal than a ballot with Trump. Who So that's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that makes this whole thing unsteady and unknowable,

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<v Speaker 5>Like we're going to find out on the week of

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<v Speaker 5>November fifth, whether they really have fixed the polls this

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<v Speaker 5>time or if they've over corrected the polls this time.

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<v Speaker 5>And having said all that, let me give you one

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<v Speaker 5>other fact. The one poll that they said was the

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<v Speaker 5>most accurate poll of twenty twenty, the most accurate poll

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<v Speaker 5>of twenty twenty is Atlas Intel, and they just released

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<v Speaker 5>their latest poll and it shows Trump with a two

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<v Speaker 5>point seven percentage point lead over Harris on national level.

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<v Speaker 5>That's zero point seven percentage points outside their margin of error,

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<v Speaker 5>which is two And when you add in the full

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<v Speaker 5>field like a third party candidates, it's Trump up three

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<v Speaker 5>point four percentage points, and it has Trump with a

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<v Speaker 5>nine point lead over independence over Kamala Harris. When it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to independence. It also has Trump up one point

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<v Speaker 5>two percentage point in Michigan, up three in Pennsylvania, up

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<v Speaker 5>two in Georgia, up point six in Arizona, up point

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<v Speaker 5>three in Nevada, and it has Harris up two and

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<v Speaker 5>one in North Carolina and Wisconsin, respectively. So that's Trump

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<v Speaker 5>leading in six, well five, let me say one, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 5>five of the seven swing states. That's very good news

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<v Speaker 5>for Trump. That's the most accurate poll last time around.

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<v Speaker 5>So look, it could go either way. Paul, and get

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<v Speaker 5>out the vote efforts are going to have so much

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<v Speaker 5>to do, they're saying, to get out the vote effort

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<v Speaker 5>could be worth three points to her. Well, if he's

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<v Speaker 5>up three point four and the margin of era is two,

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<v Speaker 5>you can subtract two from that, so maybe he's up

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<v Speaker 5>one point four and you can get out the voters

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<v Speaker 5>worth three for her on election day. Yeah, this could

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<v Speaker 5>still go her way, And it could go her way,

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<v Speaker 5>not easily but kind of big time if you add

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<v Speaker 5>on three percentage points to all the swing states.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you, Meghan, who show that Megan Kelly show

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<v Speaker 1>could be heard live on Sirius XM, on podcasts, or

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<v Speaker 1>of course on YouTube. We'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Always a pleasure, paul I, see you next week,