1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Man of three sixty Raw League from every angle, 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: brought to you by Telfast. For the final time this season, 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: the Penrith Panthers have done it again, making history with 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: a fourth straight premiership. The Storm fought hard and it 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: wasn't without controversy, but in the end the Penrith juggernaut 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: rolled on. 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Here's the matchup that all season has looked unavoidable with 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: the premiership on the line. We are underweight, Grant down 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: the short side, pleats everybody. Melbourne strike first, clearing out 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: of the back, Alamoni on the swing, be Charmes krim 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: leueye to Taruba blue eye, longboard Cleary Mannon into a hole. 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: What brilliant. 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: It's Penrith who lean at the crank. Here is the 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: last months the chips into the corner. 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: Here is Coats out wide. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: What a catch and a pass back on the inside. 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: Did they get it down? 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 3: This is so close. 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: When you win a premiership, he comes down to moments 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: and this just might be the moment that makes Penrith 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: win four. 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: In a row. 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 5: Here's what it is. 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 6: You know it went out to the back room, come 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 6: down They try so at the end of the day, 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 6: it does matter. I think whether it was the right decision, 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 6: wrong decision, I don't know. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: Then the short side pabit House at Coachs beats Martin 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: papit hoous and bagging up taken there by tannegor Melbourne deep. 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: On the attack across the hues. 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: He puts a kick in in behind the roover. 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: It'll be two. 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 5: Fieg and I indeed the kick was a play then. 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 7: Clearing or kick gear towards the corner Coach underneath the. 35 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Tangle was there, So was Marten. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: What a catch, get a tribe on. 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: A hell of money for the tier and he got there. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: And as he put me, the big, big game player 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: and the bigger the game in the bettery games, some 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: huge players tonight. 41 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: He was one that was definitely on his feet in 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: that second half, just kept finding something. 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 7: Muster now a very narrow short side cleary there Again 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 7: there's a stoppage about allegation and the sensation in the 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 7: Grand Final, an allegation of finding being leveled. 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: Here a dramatic moment. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: It will be looked at beyond the Grand Final. 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Forty seconds left, they've got one more plays Hughes, who 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: will kick? We said, Isty, what a catch. 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel it's good. 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: I think the first time is playing a bit more relief. 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: This is just like mind blowing, honestly that we've been 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: able to do this and they're just fly it. 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Undisputed, unrivaled, unstoppable. Penrith are the premiers for the fourth 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: time in a row. 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Who four Premierships in a row to the Penrith Panthers. 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: What a monumental achievement. Welcome Gordon Tallas. 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Has been a Australian buzz Rothfield and Brent Reuid. What 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: a game it was, Gordy. The Penwrith Panthers reign supreme 60 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: yet again. Five Grand Finals in a row, four Premierships 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: in a row. 62 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: They are now etched. 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: In history and one of the most successful teams sporting 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: organizations in the world. 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 8: Absolutely, look, I think it was a promoter's dream too. 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 8: Heavy weights going out at Penrith were just so dominate. 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 8: They dominated territory, just the subtleties in their game. Their 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 8: defense is Unbelievabley don't get enough apps for their defense. 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 8: I think there's only eight players that have played in 70 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 8: all four Grand Finals. I've lost players and it's truly 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 8: remarkable what they've been able to achieve. 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 9: I also rte this morning Gordy that they've also lost coaches. 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 9: They lost the last year's Dalim Coach of the Year, 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 9: Andrew Webbs. They lost Cameron Surroualdo, who was a final ship. 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 9: So they've lost one eight Stars, two great coaches. But 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 9: Ivan just turns up every year, prepares them beautifully times 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 9: they run. They're so fit, so strong, undelievable football organization. 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 6: I mean, everyone they've lost, they've kept two really key figures, 80 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 6: right Ivan and Nathan. The clearis they're the backbone of 81 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 6: this team and there's really the community of Penrith now, 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 6: aren't they. So it's remarkable. I wouldn't rule out five, 83 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 6: you know, I said they wouldn't win three, so I'm 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 6: not going to say they can't win five. 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 9: But Fisher, Harrison Lewye, they have to come back, come back. 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: We'll find out next year. 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see if they can 88 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: continue this form and I suppose dominate the way that 89 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: they have the past four seasons. Now, how do we 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: see the game? How do we see that this this 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: contest between these two great clubs. I mean I saw 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: the pair of Panthers as machine like methodical and just 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: really hard to break. In the end, they wore down 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: the Melbourne Storm. How did you guys see it? 95 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 5: I saw a little different Penrith. 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 8: I think the first time he finally I think there 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 8: was two offloads, the second one there was six. There 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 8: was twenty one off floads last night. So they tried to, 99 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 8: you know, pull the structure away from the Melbourne defense, 100 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 8: just as subtlely's in that player. I think, you know, 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 8: first week they put a kick in, last week they 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 8: hit Ala Mody. This time they go at the back. 103 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 8: They're a juggernaut. They you know, they start your possession. 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 8: They dominate territory and they got the superstars that stand 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 8: up in the right moments. 106 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 9: What they did they shut down the Storm's spine very successfully, 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 9: sort of suffocated and strangled, and they thirty four percent 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 9: of the game was played only thirty four percent. 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: In Penrith territory. 110 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 9: And I think there was not one Storm forward in 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 9: the middle made one hundred meters Penrith had. I think 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 9: they really missed Nelsoness say for Salomnus go forward and 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 9: you could see it in Jerome Hughes miss How did 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 9: they all miss that? 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, that unbelievable. 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Haven't had an opportunities Melbourne, especially in that first half, 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: because like what I said, Peter were a machine, Like 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: they were methodical, They're kicking game of spot on. The 119 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: kick chase was fantastic, the spread of the line was 120 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: exceptional and they did suffocate Melbourne. And when Melbourne had opportunities, 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: they made a couple of really bad errors that cost 122 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: them dearly, didn't it. 123 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: It wasn't a classic Grand Final, but it's not a 124 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 6: Grand Final. It's going to live in my memory for 125 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: a long time. But I just didn't I just didn't 126 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: feel like that to me. 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 9: Did you feel like Mate said it was the best 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 9: they've ever seen, and I agree with. 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: Okay, they've ever seen? 130 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: Well, no, they're wrapping the games. 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: A lot of people saw the games. It was high quality. 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people saw the game is a really 133 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: good game. I wouldn't say the best you've ever seen. 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 6: I thought it like just just felt like a war 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: of attrition to me, just two sides going out into one. 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: You didn't see great attacking flair they gord or any But. 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: Did you ball movement? Did you appreciate the fan said, 138 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 5: like the effort? 139 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 8: Like yeah, so this stuff here like Liam Martin going 140 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 8: and winning the collision and look at THEODA, like did he. 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 5: Lose his GPS? But he's not supposed to be there 142 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 5: as a front roll. 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 6: The physical side was a physical game, you know, and 144 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 6: Melbourne Penneth Moore I felt that they were more aggressive 145 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 6: and use that word suffocate buzz. That's the word Ryan 146 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 6: papahaws and used when I spoke to him after the game. 147 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: He said, they suffocated this. So we couldn't find a 148 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 6: way to get around that. 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: So, you know, maybe we see it this way because 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: of last year's Grand Finals and so fresh in our 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: minds when Ezra Man was on fire and Nathan Cleary, 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: He's last twenty minutes was one of the best you'll 153 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: ever see. So maybe because you know, we'd seen that 154 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: not so long ago, and then we had the two 155 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: best teams in the in the Grand Final. All yeah, 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: but they're two different teams too, right, I think? 157 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 158 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 9: I think where the purists loved it was that an 159 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 9: average NRL game has fifty four minutes ball in play. 160 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 9: Last night because there was the discipline, the handling was 161 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 9: so bumped up to sixty five minutes, which you know, 162 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 9: very very few games in the modern. 163 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 5: Era about twelve extra sets, maybe even more. 164 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: Yeah so, And I think that's what some people loved 165 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: about it. 166 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Four premierships in a row for Penrith, mind bombling. It 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: really is an eighth And Cleary said it himself, will 168 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: this ever be seen again? 169 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 8: We don't think it was going to be seen like 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 8: when like when sides went back to back, that was rare, right, 171 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 8: and we would like put those teams up on a pedestal. 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 8: And then when they won three went oh yeah, well 173 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 8: they can't get four. Well I think they can get five, 174 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 8: like I really do, just just with the way they 175 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 8: lose their players, the way they they're able just to 176 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 8: reinvent themselves enough and just put just different players in 177 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 8: and you know, it just brings it a look at it. 178 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Near buzz and I feel like, you don't think they 179 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: can get fired. 180 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 9: I love Fisher Harris and I spoke last week. I 181 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 9: don't like seeing dynasties and. 182 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: Jerome lou is a great great five eight. 183 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 9: Having said that, what why Penrith can continue is that 184 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 9: I don't see a lot of rise in the other 185 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 9: sixteen clubs, which I think is a little bit disappointing. 186 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 9: The Roosters. I can't see them rising next year. I 187 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 9: wouldn't be surprised. But Storm again the Bulldogs. Can they 188 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 9: go better than the freakish year they have. But you 189 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 9: see what you see what I mean? You know we're 190 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 9: critical them. Some people have said it's boring because it's 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 9: Melbourne Penrith. 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: I would say, you lose Loui. They bought Blaze to 193 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 6: Lungey is one of the best young kids in the game. 194 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 6: They lose Fisher Harris. They brought us Papa, but we've 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 6: simblings in Smith get name and the strands I today, 196 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 6: so he's the merging star as well. Yeah, they just 197 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 6: bring Blakes through who replaced. 198 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 5: In the middle of the rock the receiver. 199 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 8: He was unbelievable l time, so a can play first 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 8: receiver and like hit. 201 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 5: So they've still got an there. 202 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 9: Considering the opposition, I will say they can win five. 203 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: I will be else later. 204 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 9: I'll say this why I think there's a lot of 205 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 9: poorly managed organizations in this competition, and we're going to 206 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 9: talk about well I do I do, and they need 207 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 9: to get their acts together and they need to strive 208 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 9: to become. 209 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: A long way behind Peter. Aren't they a lot of. 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 9: Them, Candoby getting there that they've built that really strong 211 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 9: junior league to go with that excellent side. 212 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 6: Now all over the Dog's ben Wagon after bagging them 213 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 6: for about two years. All over the Bullocks now one 214 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: photo with Cam Sarreld Jersey. 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 9: I was critical for your information of Canterbury last year 216 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 9: when they ran sixteenth and the year before when they won. 217 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: The year before that, right, they were absolute crap. 218 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 9: What they have done since this year with Cameron surround 219 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 9: Up leading the joint and Phil Girl building is outstanding 220 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 9: and now and again when teams what do you want 221 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 9: me to say? They're no good still? 222 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 6: I just love the way you can jump on a 223 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 6: bed wagon. 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: I'm not jumping, but won't you the break to tip 225 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: the West Tigers to make the. 226 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: Twelve? 227 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: So you're the worst judge in Sydney. 228 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: There was they think that the winners the Pans last 229 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: night's game. There were a lot of controversies and we're 230 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: going to get to them. Not a lot, but there 231 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: were a few. We're going to get to them very soon. 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: But the enerall w Roosters win. Congratulations to the Roosters 233 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: girls got off to a flyer Carnella came back, made 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: it very interesting. But it was the Roosters who got 235 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: it done. 236 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 9: She was cheering around that second half breaks when I 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 9: thought we were gone twenty four nail Sharks halftime. They turned 238 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 9: into a wonderful football game. It's quality, wasn't they eleven 239 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 9: try has got your Sharks? 240 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 5: Yes they did, they did. 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 8: Yes, all movement, go and coach the I was sitting 242 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 8: in the box with a heap of guys and we 243 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 8: were like normally, like everybody jumped outside watching it. How 244 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 8: athletic the girls are. They've worked defensively, they got better. 245 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 8: It was a high quality game and I was going 246 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 8: for the Sharks in the end. Yeah well yeah, I 247 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 8: mean because they like twenty four, like they had no 248 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 8: right to get back to you. 249 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 5: No, but yes, yes I do. 250 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 8: But like that when it sides down and you watch 251 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 8: them fight back in, you just start going for the underdog, 252 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 8: don't you all? 253 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: What it was? No? 254 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: Man, I'm glad the Sharks got beaten. 255 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: It is incredible how far the winner's game has coming. 256 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: They are. 257 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: They are the preme athletes now, they really are. You 258 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: watch the game compared to when they first started. It's 259 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: elite and congratulations at the end l W girls in 260 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: an amazing season. And let's get to the controversy that 261 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: was last night in the Grand Final. Start start with 262 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: the Jack Howard no try. 263 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 5: This is yeah. 264 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: As I said, it's interesting because at the ground a 265 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that he had scored this. Going 266 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: around on social media, there was a still shot that 267 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: suggested that the ball had hit the ground. Actually, Kin 268 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: went up with no try and the Bunker stuck with 269 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: that decision because of inconclusive evidence. 270 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: Did they get this right or did they get it wrong? 271 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 8: They got it right at the ground, I thought there 272 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 8: was no try. Then on social media today it looks 273 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 8: like the ball is down and they just lit up. 274 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: And then I'm looking, I'm going he scored. 275 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: That, But that was the someone posted that not long 276 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: after it so, I mean I looked at it during 277 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: the game, I'm like, that's a try. 278 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: But then as you see the other angles. 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: And this was provided by the NRL, and I believe 280 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: the Anneral actually provided this to the journos and Matt 281 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Tripp and. 282 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 6: Just there's a room just outside the press common in 283 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 6: Melbourne storm hierarchy, right, the Aneral took some journals in 284 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 6: that room that had a big screen set up. They 285 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 6: replayed this. Then they got Justin and Matt Tripp and 286 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 6: there they watched it as well, and they acknowledged that it. 287 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't would have been angry before they saw this right, 288 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: and then they're okay. 289 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 9: I thought it was a try. But what the Bunker 290 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 9: did and what we want them to do, is they 291 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 9: followed protocol. So when a referee makes a decision it's 292 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 9: not a try. They need evidence to suggest otherwise it's inconclusive. 293 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: There was a real they have to stick with it. 294 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: So they did everything right. 295 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: But do you think the ball touched the grass? 296 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: I did at first, I swear it. 297 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 5: I don't think now. 298 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 8: And that is a great lesson, right, you know, saying 299 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 8: that you make your own luck. Look how many pink 300 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 8: jerseys are in that picture the Anerald. 301 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 6: There's some credit here for clarifying it so quickly. I mean, 302 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: because as you said, break that that photo was going 303 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 6: around basically what the game was still going on. And 304 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: I actually showed at the Graham and after I looked 305 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: like a try. But the Oald quickly got on the 306 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: front foot. As I said, they got the journals in 307 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 6: the room said this is what's happened. It's not a 308 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: try and once you saw that they actually were showing 309 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 6: journalists regularly, maybe they should. 310 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 9: But it's a very good thing they did last night. 311 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 9: But fans of a Thursday or Friday night game get 312 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 9: so angry about their teams getting what they believe was darted, 313 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 9: and they've got to wait for Graham Mansley to do 314 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 9: an apology on a Monday. 315 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a good idea. 316 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: One of the reasons why they're probably quick to do 317 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 6: it was they were right, so you know, when there's 318 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: one that's wrong. I'm not sure they're going to be 319 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: that quick to. 320 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: They made the decision very quick though, like it was, 321 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: it was a quick decision. They didn't really look at 322 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: it too much, or maybe they got the angles that 323 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: we didn't. 324 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 9: I think grand Atkins in the bunker definitely saw the 325 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 9: video that Graham Ansley showed everyone afterwards. 326 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: I think he was telecast could have been better to them. 327 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 6: I don't think they really well, I think you know, 328 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 6: from from. 329 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: What I understand, I think you're right because they didn't 330 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: even come back to it. No, they sort of went 331 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: away and once you. 332 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 6: Had that evidence, which they would have had. I imagine 333 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: they should have come back and shown it and cleared 334 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 6: the air on the cover. 335 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Because Melbourne saw that try, they hit the lead again. 336 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: The momentum ships and this game on after this, Melbourne 337 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: didn't really look likely, so it was a big, a 338 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: big moment in the game. Now, poor Crawley wants a 339 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: camera in the bunker. 340 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: Thoughts on this. 341 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: I like where it's going. 342 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 9: We used to have a bunker camera in the bunker 343 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 9: a long time ago, but it wasn't great technology. But 344 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 9: anything that's going to take into our lounge rooms a 345 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 9: better explanation of their decisions has got to be good 346 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 9: for Rugby Leagus won Absolutely, they do Gordo because they're often. 347 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: Does it add to our broadcast? 348 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Yes, it does. 349 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 6: I wonder whether it have video of free second guessing 350 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 6: themselves because they've got a camera and they're on television 351 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 6: and it puts more pressure on them. There's enough pressure 352 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 6: on TV. 353 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: They get us in there another level. 354 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 6: Since you've been on this show, I wonder whether I 355 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: just wonder whether maybe that puts too much pressure on 356 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 6: enough pressure on the guys in the video box now, 357 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 6: so then have a camera on them tracking every movement 358 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 6: they make. 359 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: I just know it was there, made to be like 360 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: that dressing room camera. 361 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 6: But little on camera. 362 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: But then they need hear a makeup while you guys 363 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: what it costs to be anyway camera monster cleid of biting. 364 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: This was at the back end of the game. Arm 365 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: was in Cameron's mouth and he was put on report. 366 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 8: No one likes biting, obviously we had one this year 367 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 8: with Flannagan. But this reminded me of the Jack White 368 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 8: and Tyson gamble won Newcastle. If anybody's got their arm 369 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 8: and they're putting pressure right up around your jaw and 370 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 8: your teeth, you're going to get a mark on your arm. 371 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 8: It's simple as that that they would never, if I'm 372 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 8: on the judiciary, would never go down as a biting charge. 373 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 4: No, he didn't bite him last night. 374 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 9: If he did, it was the pressure samous I said 375 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 9: about Kyle Flanning, and I argue, and I argue with you. 376 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: He got a nose shoved in his mouth, right he did? 377 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: He did? You asked me a question and Cameron had 378 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: no choice there There was pressure, a. 379 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 5: Lot of in his mouth. 380 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: Here we go again, we've gone off. 381 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 6: We spoke the can. I spoke the can directly after 382 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 6: the game. You can see he was indignant about it 383 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: was shot that gave that path since. 384 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: A look, now there you go, but one's mouth one doesn't. 385 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: He's got every Carl's got every right to be a 386 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 6: little bit upset because Steve Crichton didn't follow through with 387 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 6: a complaint in this case. At the end of all 388 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 6: went on the video evidence. So you know, I think 389 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: I think Carl's a little bit of a right. 390 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: It's terrible. 391 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 6: That doesn't look good. 392 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: Don't tell me what you don't tell me that. It's 393 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: got nothing to do with what's the grand final? 394 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: Shoil? 395 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 4: If someone ran their noose into your mouth, what would 396 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 4: you do? 397 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 8: It's nowhere near I put in your mouth, or like 398 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 8: I grab you and I'll put you in a chokehold? 399 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 8: On which one you won't like? 400 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: You won't like? 401 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: All right, buzz alamony, you got something on him for it? 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 9: Well, you know, I was talking about the other clubs 403 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 9: in the camp who need to really lift their games 404 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 9: the next few years. This ala mighty justin Cameron thround. 405 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 9: I didn't want him last year. Understand why they signed crighton? 406 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 9: They signed Bronson Chert, so he was Michael Hudson looks 407 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 9: after him. He rang and emailed every club said he 408 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 9: was available. He was asked for a bit of coin, 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 9: but no one. No one wanted him. 410 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 5: But he wasn't. Hold on mate. 411 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: He has been a potential superstar, hasn't he. 412 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Coming through the junior You're right, he's had huge raps 413 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: on huge from the from school boys. 414 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: He was he was the man. 415 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: He was the man and he he just didn't reach 416 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: the potential there at Bulldogs, although he's only young. He 417 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: didn't and they were paying significant money for him for 418 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: his age and he just told him. 419 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: No, I'm not backing Candide for letting go out all. 420 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: But he was incredible yesterday and he's turned out to 421 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: be a magnificent buy. 422 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, and he went to Penrith for half his Bulldog's contract. 423 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 9: Why did Ivan Cleary and that outfit in Penrith have 424 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 9: the vision to know that he can aim up in 425 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 9: big games. 426 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: That's what I talk. 427 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: About the other clubs, and I agree with you on that. 428 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Around the club, that's not them. He's probably not doing this. 429 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: You don't know, well, they're not there to do it. 430 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: He needed them as much as more than they needed him. 431 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 6: I think, you know, I think they've helped him become 432 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 6: the player a lot of people thought he would be 433 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 6: and if he got to Melbourne maybe the same thing. 434 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 9: Weren't sure, so they gave him one year. At about 435 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 9: two fifty midway through this year, they extended him, made 436 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 9: it two years because he was going good. Then Taylor 437 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 9: May left, they extend him another two and it's haven't 438 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 9: they do it so good? 439 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: Now he's reached. He's got that. 440 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: So this, this game will change his life now because 441 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: he's always been that kid. He's always had the potential. 442 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: He's always touted to be the next biggest thing. Now 443 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: this game here will change his life forever because now 444 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: he knows he can do it, and he can do 445 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: it on the biggest stage and he's only going to 446 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: get better. 447 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: So it happens a lot with those with kids coming through. 448 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: He kind of plat out a little bit because of 449 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: the pressure and expectations his heart, you know, but he's 450 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: got through it, which is a credit to him as 451 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: outstanding our player performance of the Grand Final. Who else 452 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: but Liam Martin with the Clive Churchill Medal. He was well, 453 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: you talk about machine like. 454 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: He's a beast. 455 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: You know, We've spoken about him all year and his 456 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: performance in the in the Grand Final was well, it 457 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 1: was second and none. 458 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: He was unbelievable. 459 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's just got every his aggressive of his hard running. 460 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: He loves the physical side of the game. He loves 461 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: the collision, I mean loves the big moments too, which 462 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 6: is can. 463 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 9: I also say is a great kick chaser. He puts 464 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 9: enormous pressure on their back five on the kick chase. 465 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 9: He also runs a real good line. You know, he 466 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 9: was perfectly positioned for the Cleary pass cord. He I 467 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 9: don't want to embarrass you, I don't want to disrespect you, 468 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 9: but he's the closest thing I've seen to you as a. 469 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: Rugby league player. 470 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: He's a great player. Yeah. 471 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 9: And look I saw you play for Australia for Queensland, 472 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 9: George Broncos you're an out and out champion. 473 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 5: This boy he needs a lot of moments. 474 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: You must love him. 475 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 8: He's Leo Martin, like I don't like pigeon guys man. 476 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 8: He's he's actually Leon Martin. And you watch him in 477 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 8: Origin and you watch him and there was a big 478 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 8: there's a big game he vers Angus Crichton and he 479 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 8: outdid him and Angus Crichton's being the best back rower 480 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 8: all year. Everybody he plays against he makes it personal. 481 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 8: Look at that like that's you know, I mean like 482 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 8: there's not too many players and that's not ability. Everybody 483 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 8: in the comp can play like that. They just got 484 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 8: to want to play with that. 485 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: But everybody he doesn't. 486 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: He does play like you. He's tear away, he's non stop, 487 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: the belly, A little bit mad. 488 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 5: I think he's a bit mad. 489 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 6: He's a bit mad. 490 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: Is that possible? He's not. 491 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: I don't know. 492 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: A fair comparaison. Obviously it's half for Gordon to comment on. 493 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: But he's an animal. He's a beast. I played against 494 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: Gordy and he does remind me of him. There's no 495 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: doubt about that. He's just he's a scary proposition for 496 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: anyone who's coming up against him to have curly hair 497 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: actually looks. 498 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 4: I don't care about. I think on the football field. 499 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: He's underpants off. 500 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 10: Made in origin, like he's grabbed me and he's just 501 00:23:52,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 10: he got a handful. You thought, isaaa yo heng on? 502 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: This is controversial. You think that Isaia was robbed for 503 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: the clib He was one man of the match. 504 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 6: By the length of Austraight. I think Liam, no disrespect 505 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 6: to Liam, had a great night, but I just loved 506 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 6: the I a the other night. I think he constantly 507 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 6: got him on the front foot. He's got his motor 508 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 6: is incredible, you know, great footwork and he's a great leader. 509 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 6: For me, he was the Club Churchill Medal winner, as 510 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 6: I said, by the length of austraight. 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 9: Mate Liam Martin, in my view, was a fair Churchill man. 512 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 9: I can understand what might have been of it that 513 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 9: I thought. I thought he did to win and he 514 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 9: wasn't the best by the length of the straight, which 515 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 9: you also see. He had a very very good game, 516 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 9: you think, and I think he's a great The last 517 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 9: blake I saw get rob for Daly m was Andrew 518 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 9: Feeder in twenty sixteen. 519 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 6: It's not what I asked, I said, who do you 520 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 6: think should have won? 521 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: It was clear Leam Martin. 522 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 8: I thought Liam Martin live was really good, but not 523 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 8: on the panel really really he might have been. 524 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: A close second moment. We should give it a silver 525 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 5: one as well. 526 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: Stay strong already all right, Debate rages over Grand Final 527 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: kickoff time. 528 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: When should we have this kickoff? Buzz? Are you going 529 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: to poll or something here again, Yeah. 530 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, usual, you know what, Well, you know what, I 531 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: did a poll, breath. I like to hear what the 532 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: punters are thinking. 533 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: You know what, I love it and I agree with you. 534 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: I think it should be early. 535 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 5: I agree with you too, buzz well. 536 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 9: I the fans our most important people in our game, 537 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 9: our customers. Only ten percent of them, one in ten 538 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 9: want a nighttime Grand final. 539 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: Let me finish. 540 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 9: The NRL has also has always used the reasons that 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 9: nighttime rates better. 542 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: I'll tell you now that's rubbish. 543 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 9: AFL Grand Final on a Saturday afternoon right up against 544 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 9: the races, junior sport, everything else rated four point one million. 545 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 9: The NRL Grand Final last night on Channel nine rated 546 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 9: three point seven million. So I don't where. I listened 547 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 9: to people and I know you've got a different opinion. 548 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 9: There is an appetite for. 549 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: What's a different opinion from you? 550 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 6: Well, what's what's wrong with it? There's eighty thousand people there. 551 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 6: Look at those scenes, the remarkable scenes that the audience 552 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 6: peak that you won't because it's daytime break that won't work? 553 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: You like to tell us? Is that why you want 554 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: to kid law? 555 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 6: He was magnificent? No, what's the issue. I don't see 556 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 6: why you're going to mess with it. 557 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 8: Final it's a better quality football game because it's in 558 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 8: the dry generally dry, it's not greasy. Kids get rusted on. 559 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: I remember going around like and I remember going around 560 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 8: the kids went to the foot of the other they're 561 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 8: taller than you. But but basically for the young kids 562 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 8: to get rusted on. Everybody watches it, So that argument 563 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 8: with the ratings. There's twenty people around a television. They're 564 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 8: all having barbecues, but they're not sitting at home. So yeah, 565 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 8: the ratings might be down, but everybody is watching it. 566 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 8: I guarantee every Queenslander and people in New South Wales 567 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 8: will be watching it. 568 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 5: If it's played in the day or twilight. 569 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 6: You have to mess with it. What's wrong with it? 570 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 5: What changing? Why do they change it in the first place? 571 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 6: No idea. I can't remember. 572 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: It probably. 573 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 5: Broken. 574 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 6: It was probably the broken and there was the broadcast. 575 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 3: You know it's late, you get out of there, late 576 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: ages to get home. 577 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 5: Las Vegas. 578 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, Las Vegas high, like highest ratings have the peter 579 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 8: Landers are so proud of. Was it one o'clock and 580 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 8: three o'clock kickoff or two o'clock day games right the 581 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 8: highest double our ratings. 582 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 4: Do you want to borrow my right Ben? 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: But the game would say, the only difference there is 584 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 6: that was a unique experience. 585 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: And that was a Grand Final. 586 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: There's a Grand Fall every year. 587 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: One off it was. 588 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 6: It's not a one off. It was the first time 589 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 6: was held, so people were always going to go to 590 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 6: tune into that cord in the first time. 591 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: Another high rating game played in the day. 592 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 6: I just don't understand why there is this obsession. We're 593 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 6: changing something. It's not the session. It's years opinion from 594 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: a lot of people. It's not an obsession, it's an 595 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 6: opinion of like a lot of punters. 596 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 9: Nine out of ten people don't want a night Grand Final. 597 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 9: You're one of the one out of ten. 598 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, there's eighty thousand the other You've just been carved up. 599 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: But you know what stick around.