1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Man of l three sixty Raw League from 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: every angle, brought to you by Telfast. For the final 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: time this season, the Penrith Panthers have done it again, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: making history with a fourth straight premiership. The Storm fought 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: hard and it wasn't without controversy, but in the end 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: the Penrith juggernaut rolled on. 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Here's the matchup that all season has looked unavoidable with 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: the premiership on the line. We are underweight, Grant down 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: the short side, pleats everybody. Melbourne strike first, clearing out 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: of the back, Alamoni on the swing, be Charmes krim 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: leueye to Taruba blue eye, longboard clearing Mannon into a hole. 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: What brilliant. 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: It's Penrith who lead at the crank. Here is the 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: last months the chips into the corner. 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Here is Coats out wide. 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 2: What a catch and a pass back on the inside. 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Did they get it down? 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: This is so close when you win a premiership. 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: He comes down to moments and this just might be 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: the moment that makes Penrith win four in a row. 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Here's what it is. 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: You know, wut to the back room? Come down? 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: They try so at the end of the day, it 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: does matter. I think whether it was the right decision, 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: wrong decision, I don't know. 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: Then the short side pabit House a coach beats Martin 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Papit Hoousen begging up, taken there by Tannegor Melbourne deep. 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: On the attack across the hues. 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: He puts a kick in in behind the roover. 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: It'll be two fig. 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: And ideed the kick was a play then clearing or 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: kick gear towards the corner coach underneath the tungor was there, 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: So was Martin. 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: What a catch, get a tribe. 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: On a hell of money for the tier and he got. 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: There as he put me the big, big game player 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: and the bigger the game in the bettery games, some 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: huge players tonight. 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: He was one that was definitely on his feet in that. 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: Second half, just kept finding something. 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: Muster down in a very narrow short side cleary there 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: Again there's a stoppage about allegation and. 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,279 Speaker 3: The sensation in the Grand. 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Final, an allegation of finding being leveled here a dramatic 45 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: moment will be looked at beyond the Grand Final. Forty 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: seconds left, they've got one more plays Hughes, who will kick? 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: We signed Histy what a catch? 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: It does feel it's good. I think the first time 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: is playing a bit more relief. This is just like 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: mind blowing, honestly that we've been able. 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: To do this and they're just fly it. 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: Undisputed, unrivaled, unstoppable. Penrith are the premiers for the fourth time. 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: In a WHOA. 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Four Premierships in a row to the Penrith Panthers. What 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: a monumental achievement. Welcome Gordon Tallas has been Australian Buzz 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Rothfield and Brent Reuid. What a game it was, Gordy. 58 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: The Penwrith Panthers reign supreme yet again. Five Grand Finals 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: in a row, four Premierships in a row. They are 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: now etched in history and one of the most successful 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: teams sporting organizations in the world. 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 6: Absolutely look I think it was a promoter's dream too. 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 6: Heavy weights going out at Penrith were just so dominant. 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: They dominated territory. Just the subtleties in their game. Their 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 6: defense is Unbelievabley don't get enough apps for their defense. 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 6: I think there's only eight players that have played in 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 6: all four Grand Finals. I've lost players and it's truly 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 6: remarkable what they've been able to achieve. 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: I also RTE this morning Gordy that they've also lost coaches. 71 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: They lost the last year's Dalim Coach of the Year 72 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Andrew Webster. They lost Cameron Surroualdo who was a final ship. 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: So they've lost one eight Stars, two great coaches. But 74 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: Ivan just turns up every year, prepares them beautifully times 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: the run. They's so fit, so strong, undelievable football organization. 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 7: I mean, everyone they've lost, they've kept two really key figures, 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 7: right Ivan and Nathan. The clearis they're the backbone of 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 7: this team. And there's really the community of Penrith, now, 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 7: aren't they. So it's remarkable. I wouldn't rule out five, 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 7: you know, I said they wouldn't win three, so I'm. 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 5: Not going to say they can't win five. 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: But Fisher, Harrison, Lewye, they have to come back, come back. 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: We'll find out next year. It's going to be interesting 84 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: to see if they can continue this form and I 85 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: suppose Dominic the way that they have the past four seasons. Now, 86 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: how do we see the game, how do we see 87 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: that this this contest between these two great clubs. I 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: mean I saw the pair of Panthers as machine like, 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: methodical and just really hard to break. In the end, 90 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: they wore down the Melbourne Storm. How did you guys 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: see it? 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 6: I saw a little different Penrith. I think the first 93 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 6: time he finally I think there was two offloads. The 94 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 6: second one there was six. There was twenty one off 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: floads last night. So they tried to, you know, pull 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: the structure away from the Melbourne defense, just as subtlely's 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 6: in that player. I think, you know, first week they 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 6: put a kick in, last week they hit Ala Mody. 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 6: This time they go at the back. They're a juggernaut. 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 6: They you know, they start your possession. They dominate territory 101 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 6: and they got the superstars that stand up in the 102 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: right moments. 103 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: What they did they shut down the Storm's spine very successfully, 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: sort of suffocated and strangled, and they thirty four percent 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: of the game was played only thirty four percent in 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: Penrith territory. And I think there was not one Storm 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: forward in the middle made one hundred meters Penrith had. 108 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: I think they really missed Nelsoness say for Salomnus go 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: forward and you could see it in Jerome Hughes miss 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: How did they all miss that? And Yeah, that unbelievable. 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Haven't had an opportunities Melbourne, especially in that first half, 112 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: because like what I said, Peter were a machine, Like 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: they were methodical, They're kicking game of spot on. The 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: kick chase was fantastic, the spread of the line was 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: exceptional and they did suffocate Melbourne and when Melbourne had opportunities, 116 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: they made a couple of really bad errors that cost 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: them dearly, didn't it. 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 7: It wasn't a classic Grand Final, but it's not a 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 7: Grand Final. It's going to live in my memory for. 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: A long time. 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 5: But I just didn't I just didn't feel like that 122 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 5: to me. 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: Did you feel like Mate said it was the best 124 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: they've ever seen, and I agree with. 125 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Okay, they've ever seen? 126 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: Well, no, they're wrapping the games. 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people saw the games. It was high quality. 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people saw the game is a really 129 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: good game. I wouldn't say the best you've ever seen. 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 7: I thought it like just just felt like a war 131 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 7: of attrition to me, just two sides going out into 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 7: one of them. You didn't see great attacking flair they 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 7: gord or any But did you ball movement? 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 6: Did you appreciate the fan said, like the effort, Like yeah, 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 6: so this stuff here like Liam Martin going and winning 136 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: the collision and look at THEODA, like did he lose 137 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 6: his GPS? 138 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: But he's not supposed to be there as a front roll. 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 7: The physical side was a physical game, you know, and 140 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 7: Melbourne Penneth Moore I felt that they were more aggressive 141 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 7: and use that word suffocate, butzz that's the word Ryan 142 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 7: Papa noaws and used when I spoke to him after 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 7: the game, he said, they suffocated this. So we couldn't 144 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: find a way to get around that. 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: So, you know, maybe we see it this way because 146 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: of last year's Grand Finals and so fresh in our 147 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: minds when Ezra Man was on fire and Nathan Cleary, 148 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: He's last twenty minutes was one of the best you'll 149 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: ever see. So maybe because you know, we'd seen that 150 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: not so long ago, and then we had the two 151 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: best teams in the in the Grand Final. All yeah, 152 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: but they're two different teams too, right, I think? Yeah. 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: I think where the purists loved it was that an 154 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: average NRL game has fifty four minutes ball in play. 155 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Last night because there was the discipline, the handling was 156 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: so bumped up to sixty five minutes, which you know, 157 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: very very few games in the modern. 158 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: Era about twelve extra sets, maybe even more. 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah so, And I think that's what some people loved 160 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: about it. 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Four premierships in a row for Penrith, mind bombling. It 162 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: really is an eighth And Cleary said it himself, will 163 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: this ever be seen again? 164 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 6: We don't think it was going to be seen like 165 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 6: when like when sides went back to back, that was rare, 166 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 6: right and we would like put those teams up on 167 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 6: a pedestal. And then when they won three went oh yeah, 168 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 6: well they can't get four. Well I think they can 169 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 6: get five, like I really do, just just with the 170 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: way they lose their players, the way they they're able 171 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 6: just to reinvent themselves enough and just put just different 172 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: players in and you know, it just brings it a 173 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 6: look at it. 174 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Near buzz and I feel like, you don't think they 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: can get fired. 176 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: I love Fisher Harris and I spoke last week. I 177 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: don't like seeing dynasties and Jerome lou is a great 178 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: great five eight. Having said that, what why Penrith can 179 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: continue is that I don't see a lot of rise 180 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: in the other sixteen clubs, which I think is a 181 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: little bit disappointing. The Roosters. I can't see them rising 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: next year. I wouldn't be surprised. But Storm again the Bulldogs. 183 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Can they go better than the freakish year they have. 184 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: But you see what you see what I mean? You 185 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: know we're critical them. Some people have said it's boring 186 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: because it's Melbourne Penrith. 187 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: I would say, you lose Loui. 188 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 7: They bought Blaze to Lungey is one of the best 189 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 7: young kids in the game. 190 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: They lose Fisher Harris. 191 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 7: They brought us Papa, but we've simblings in smitht name 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 7: and the strands I today, so he's the merging star 193 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 7: as well. 194 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, they just bring Blakes through who. 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: Replaced in the middle of the rock the receiver. 196 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 6: He was unbelievable time so a can play first receiver 197 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 6: and like hit. 198 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: So they've still got an there. 199 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: Considering the opposition, I will say they can win five. 200 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: I will else later I'll say this why I think 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: there's a lot of poorly managed organizations in this competition, 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about well I do I do, 203 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: and they need to get their acts together and they 204 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: need to strive to become. 205 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: A long way behind Peter. Aren't they a lot of. 206 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: Them Candoby getting there, that they've built that really strong 207 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: junior league to go with that excellent side. 208 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 7: Now all over the dog's ben wagon after bagging them 209 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 7: for about two years. All over the Bullocks now one 210 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 7: photo with camera Cereld Jersey. 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: I was critical for your information of Canterbury last year 212 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: when they ran sixteenth and the year before when they won. 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: The year before that, right, they were absolute crap. What 214 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 3: they have done since this year with Cameron surround Up 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: leading the joint and Phil Girl building is outstanding and 216 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: now and again when teams, what do you want me 217 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: to say? They're no good still? 218 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: I just love the way you can jump on a 219 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: bed wagon. 220 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm not jumping, but won't you the break to tip 221 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: the West Tigers to make the. 222 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 5: Top twelve? 223 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: So you're the worst judge in Sydney. 224 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: There was they think that the winners the Pans last 225 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: night's game. There were a lot of controversies and we're 226 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: going to get to them. Not a lot, but there 227 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: were a few. We're going to get to them very soon. 228 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: But the enerall w Roosters win. Congratulations to the Roosters 229 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: girls got off to a flyer. Carnella came back made 230 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: it very interesting, But it was the Roosters who got 231 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: it done. 232 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: She was cheering around that second half breaks when I 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: thought we were gone twenty four nail Sharks halftime. They turned 234 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: into a wonderful football game. It's quality, wasn't they eleven 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: try has got your Sharks? Yes they did, they did. 236 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 6: Yes, all movement, go and coach the I was sitting 237 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 6: in the box with a heap of guys and we 238 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: were like normally like everybody jumped outside watching it. How 239 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 6: athletic the girls are. They've worked defensively, they got better. 240 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 6: It was a high quality game, and I was going 241 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 6: for the Sharks in the end. Yeah well yeah, I 242 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 6: mean because they like twenty four, like they had no 243 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: right to get back to you. 244 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: No, but yes, yes I do. 245 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 6: But like that when it sides down and you watch 246 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 6: them fight back in, you just start. 247 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: Going for the underdog, don't you all? What it was? No? Man, 248 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: I'm glad the Sharks got beaten. 249 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: It is incredible how far the winner's game has coming. 250 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: They are. They are the preme athletes now, they really are. 251 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: You watch the game compared to when they first started. 252 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: It's elite and congratulations at the end. L w girls 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: in an amazing season. And let's get to the controversy 254 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: that was last night in the Grand Final. Start start 255 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: with the Jack Howard no try. This is yeah. As 256 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: I said, it's interesting because at the ground, a lot 257 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: of people thought that he had scored this. Going around 258 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: on social media, there was a still shot that suggested 259 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: that the ball had hit the ground. Actually, Kin went 260 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: up with no try and the Bunker stuck with that 261 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: decision because of inconclusive evidence. Did they get this right 262 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: or did they get it wrong? 263 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 6: They got it right at the ground, I thought there 264 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 6: was no try. Then on social media today it looks 265 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 6: like the ball is down and they just lit up. 266 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 6: And then I'm looking, I'm going he scored that. 267 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: But that was the someone posted that not long after 268 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: it so, I mean I looked at it during the game, 269 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a try. But then as you see 270 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: the other angles. And this was provided by the NRL, 271 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: and I believe the Anneral actually provided this to the 272 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: journals and Matt Tripp. 273 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 7: And just there's a room just outside the Press Common 274 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 7: in Melbourne storm hierarchy, right, the Aneral took some journals 275 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 7: in that room that had a big screen set up. 276 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: They replayed this. 277 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 7: Then they got Justin and Matt Tripp and there they 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 7: watched it as well, and they acknowledged that it. 279 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't would have been angry before they saw this right, 280 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: and then they're okay, I thought. 281 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: It was a try. But what the Bunker did and 282 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: what we want them to do, is they followed protocol. 283 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: So when a referee makes a decision it's not a try. 284 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: They need evidence to suggest otherwise it's inconclusive. There was 285 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: a real they have to stick with it. So they 286 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: did everything right. 287 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: But do you think the ball touched the grass? 288 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: I did at first, I swear it. 289 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 6: I don't think now, And that is a great lesson, right, 290 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: you know, saying that you make your own luck. 291 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: Look how many pink jerseys are in that picture the Anerald. 292 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 7: There's some credit here for clarifying it so quickly. I mean, 293 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 7: because as you said, break that that photo was going 294 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 7: around basically what the game was still going on. And 295 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 7: I actually showed at the Graham and after I looked 296 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 7: like a try. But the Oald quickly got on the 297 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 7: front foot. As I said, they got the journals in 298 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 7: the room said this is what's happened. It's not a try, 299 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 7: and once you saw that they actually were showing journalists regularly, 300 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 7: maybe they should. 301 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: But it's a very. 302 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: Good thing they did last night. But fans of a 303 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Thursday or Friday night game get so angry about their 304 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: teams getting what they believe was darted, and they've got 305 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: to wait for Graham Mansley to do an apology on 306 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: a Monday. Well, I think it's a good idea. 307 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 7: One of the reasons why they're probably quick to do 308 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 7: it was they were right, so you know, when there's 309 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 7: one that's wrong, I'm not sure they're going to be 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 7: that quick to. 311 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: They made the decision very quick though, like it was, 312 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: it was a quick decision. They didn't really look at 313 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: it too. 314 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: Much, or maybe they got the angles that we didn't. 315 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: I think grand Atkins in the bunker definitely saw the 316 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 3: video that Graham Mansley showed everyone afterwards. 317 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 7: I think he was telecast could have been better to them. 318 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 7: I don't think they really well, I think you know, 319 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 7: from from what. 320 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I understand, I think you're right because they didn't even 321 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: come back to it. No, they sort of went. 322 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 7: Away and once you had that evidence, which they would 323 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 7: have had, I imagine they should have come back and 324 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 7: shown it and cleared the air on the cover. 325 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Because Melbourne score that try, they hit the lead again, 326 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: the momentum ships and this game on after this Melbourne 327 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't really look likely. So it was a big, a 328 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: big moment in the game. Now, poor Crawley wants a 329 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: camera in the bunker. Thoughts on this. 330 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: I like where it's going. We used to have a 331 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: bunker camera in the bunker a long time ago, but 332 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: it wasn't great technology. But anything that's going to take 333 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: into our lounge rooms a better explanation of their decisions 334 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: has got. 335 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: To be good for Rugby Leagus won. 336 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they do Gordo because they're often. 337 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: Does it add to our broadcast? 338 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: Yes it does. 339 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 7: I wonder whether it have video of free second guessing 340 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 7: themselves because they've got a camera and they're on television 341 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 7: and it puts more pressure on them. 342 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: There's enough pressure on TV. 343 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: They get us in there another level. 344 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 7: Since you've been on this show, I wonder whether I 345 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 7: just wonder whether maybe that puts too much pressure on 346 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 7: enough pressure on the guys in the video box. Now, 347 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 7: so then have a camera on them tracking every movement 348 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 7: they make. 349 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: I just know it was there made to be like 350 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: that dressing room camera but. 351 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: Little on camera. 352 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: But then they need hear a makeup while you guys, 353 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: what it costs to be anyway camera monster cleard of biting. 354 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: This was at the back end of the game. Arm 355 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: was in Cameron's mouth and he was put on report. 356 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: No one likes biting. Obviously we had one this year 357 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 6: with Flanagan. But this reminded me of the Jack White 358 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 6: and Tyson Gamble won Newcastle. If anybody's got their arm 359 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 6: and they're putting pressure right up around your jaw and 360 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: your teeth, you're going to get a mark on your arm. 361 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: It's simple as that that. They would never, if I'm 362 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 6: on the judiciary, would never go down as a biting charge. 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: No, he didn't bite him last night. If he did, 364 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: it was the pressure Samos I said about Kyle Flanning, 365 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: and I argue, and I argue with you. He got 366 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: a nose shoved in his mouth, right he did? He did? 367 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: You asked me a question and Cameron had no choice 368 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: there There was pressure, a lot of in his mouth. 369 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: Here we go again. We've gone off. 370 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 5: We spoke the can. I spoke the can directly after 371 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: the game. 372 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 7: You can see he was indignant about it was shot 373 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 7: that gave that path since. 374 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: A look, now there you go, but one's mouth one doesn't. 375 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 7: He's got every Carl's got every right to be a 376 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 7: little bit upset because Steve Crichton didn't follow through with 377 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 7: a complaint in this case. At the end of all 378 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 7: went on the video evidence. So you know, I think 379 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 7: I think Carl's a little bit of a right. 380 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: It's terrible that doesn't look don't tell me what you 381 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: don't tell me that it's got nothing to do with 382 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: the Grand Final jail. If someone ran their noose into 383 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: your mouth, what would you do? 384 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 6: It's nowhere near I put in your mouth, or like 385 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 6: I grab you and I'll put you in a chokehold? 386 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 6: On which one you won't like? 387 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: You won't like? 388 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: All right, buzz alamony, you got something on him for it? 389 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know I was talking about the other clubs 390 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: in the camp who need to really lift their games 391 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: the next few years. This ala mighty justin Cameron thround. 392 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: I didn't want him last year. Understand why they signed 393 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: crighton they signed Bronson Chert, so he was Michael Hudson 394 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 3: looks after him. He rang and emailed every club said 395 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: he was available. He was asked for a bit of coin, 396 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: but no one, no one wanted. 397 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: Him, but he wasn't. Hold on mate. 398 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: He has been a potential superstar, hasn't he coming. 399 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Through the junior You're right, he's had huge raps on 400 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: huge from the from school boys. He was he was 401 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: the man. He was the man and he he just 402 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't reach the potential there at Bulldogs although he's only young. 403 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: He didn't and they were paying significant money for him 404 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: for his age, and he just told. 405 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: Him no, I'm not backing Candide for letting go out all. 406 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: But he was incredible yesterday and he's turn out to 407 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: be a magnificent buy. 408 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he went to Penrith for half his Bulldog's contract. 409 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 3: Why did Ivan Cleary and that outfit in Penrith have 410 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: the vision to know that he can aim up in 411 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: big games. 412 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: That's what I talk about the other clubs and I 413 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 4: agree with you on that. 414 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: Around the club, that's not them. He's probably not doing this. 415 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: You don't know, well, they're not there to do it. 416 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: He needed them as much as more than they needed him. 417 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 7: I think, you know, I think they've helped him become 418 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 7: the player a lot of people thought he would be 419 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 7: and if he got to Melbourne maybe the same thing. 420 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: Weren't sure, so they gave him one year. At about 421 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: two fifty midway through this year, they extended him, made 422 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: it two years because he was going good. Then Taylor 423 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: May left, they extend him another two and it's haven't 424 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 3: they do it so good? 425 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Now he's reached he's got that. So this this game 426 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: will change his life now because he's always been that kid. 427 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: He's always had the potential. He's always touted to be 428 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: the next biggest thing. Now this game here will change 429 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: his life forever because now he knows he can do it, 430 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: and he can do it on the biggest stage and 431 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: he's only going to get better. So it happens a 432 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: lot with those with kids coming through. He kind of 433 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: plat out a little bit because of the pressure and 434 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: expectations his heart, you know, but he's he's got through it, 435 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: which is the credit to him as outstanding our player 436 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: performance of the Grand Final. Who else but Liam Martin 437 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: with the Clive Churchill Medal. He was well, you talk 438 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: about machine like he's a beast. You know, we've spoken 439 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: about him all year and his performance in the in 440 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: the Grand Final was well, it was second and none. 441 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. 442 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's just got every his aggressive of his hard running. 443 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 7: He loves the physical side of the game. He loves 444 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 7: the collision, I mean loves the big moments too, which. 445 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: Is can I also say is a great kick chaser. 446 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: He puts enormous pressure on their back five on the 447 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: kick chase. He also runs a real good line. You know, 448 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: he was perfectly positioned for the cleary pass cord. He 449 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: I don't want to embarrass you, I don't want to 450 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: disrespect you, but he's the closest thing I've seen to 451 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: you as a rugby league player. 452 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: He's a great player. 453 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look I saw you play for Australia for Queensland, 454 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 3: George Broncos you're an out and out champion. 455 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: This boy, he needs a lot of moments. 456 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: You must love him. 457 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 6: He's Leo Martin, like I don't like pigeon guys man. 458 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 6: He's He's actually Leon Martin. And you watch him in 459 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 6: Origin and you watch him and there was a big 460 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: there's a big game he vers Angus Crichton and he 461 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 6: outdid him. And Angus Crichton's being the best back rower 462 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 6: all year. Everybody he plays against he makes it personal. 463 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 6: Look at that like that's you know, I mean like 464 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 6: there's not too many players and that's not ability. Everybody 465 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 6: in the comp can play like that. They just got 466 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 6: to want to play with that. But everybody he doesn't. 467 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: He does play like you. 468 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: He's tear away, he's non stop in the belly, A 469 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: little bit mad. 470 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: I think he's a bit mad. 471 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a bit mad. Is that possible He's not? 472 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: I don't know. 473 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Is a fair comparaison. Obviously it's half for Gordon to 474 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: comment on. But he's an animal. He's a beast. I 475 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: played against Gordy and he does remind me of him. 476 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. He's just he's a scary 477 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: proposition for anyone who's coming up against him to have 478 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: curly hair actually looks. 479 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: I don't care about. I think on the football field. 480 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: He's underpants off. 481 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 6: Made in origin, like he's grabbed me and he's just 482 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 6: he got a handful. 483 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: You thought, isaaa yo heng on This is controversial. You 484 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: think that. 485 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 7: Isaia was robbed for the client He was one man 486 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 7: of the match by the length of austraight. I think 487 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 7: Liam no disrespect to Liam had a great night, but 488 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 7: I just loved the I a the other night. I 489 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 7: think he constantly got him on the front foot. He's 490 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 7: got his motor is incredible, you know, great footwork and 491 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 7: he's a great leader. For me, he was the Club 492 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 7: Churchill Medal winner, as I said, by the length of 493 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 7: austraight mate. 494 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 3: Liam Martin, in my view, was a fair Churchill man. 495 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 3: I can understand what might have been of it that 496 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: I thought. I thought he did to win and he 497 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: wasn't the best by the length of the straight, which 498 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: you also see. He had a very very good game think, 499 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: and I think he's a great The last blake I 500 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: saw get rob for Daly m was Andrew Feeder in 501 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. 502 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 5: It's not what I asked, I said, who do you 503 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 5: think should have won? 504 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: It was clear Leam Martin. 505 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: I thought Liam Martin live was really. 506 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: Good, but not on the panel really really he might. 507 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: Have been a close second moment. We should give it 508 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: a silver one as well. 509 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: Stay strong already, all right. Debate rages over Grand Final 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: kickoff time? When should we have this kickoff? Buzz? Are 511 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you going to poll or something here? Again? 512 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 513 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, usual, you. 514 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: Know, what. 515 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I did a poll, breath. I 516 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: like to hear what the punters are thinking. 517 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: You know what, I love it and I agree with you. 518 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I think it should be early. 519 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: I agree with you too, buzz well. 520 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 3: I the fans our most important people in our game, 521 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: our customers. Only ten percent of them, one in ten 522 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: want a nighttime Grand final. Let me finish. The NRL 523 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: has also has always used the reasons that nighttime rates better. 524 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: I'll tell you now that's rubbish. AFL Grand Final on 525 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: a Saturday afternoon, right up against the races, junior sport, 526 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: everything else rated four point one million. The NRL Grand 527 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: Final last night on Channel nine rated three point seven million. 528 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: So I don't where. I listened to people and I 529 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: know you've got a different opinion. There is an appetite for. 530 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: What's a different opinion from you? 531 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 5: Well, what's what's wrong with it? There's eighty thousand people there. 532 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: Look at those. 533 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 7: Scenes, the remarkable scenes that the audience peak that you 534 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 7: won't because it's daytime break, that won't work. 535 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: You like to tell us? Is that why you want 536 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: to kid? 537 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 5: He was magnificent. No, what's the issue. I don't see 538 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: why you're going to mess with it. 539 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 6: Final it's a better quality football game because it's in 540 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 6: the dry generally dry, it's not greasy. 541 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: Kids get rusted on. I remember going around. 542 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 6: Like and I remember going around the kids went to 543 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 6: the foot of the other they're. 544 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 4: Taller than you. 545 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 6: But but basically for the young kids that get rusted on, 546 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 6: everybody watches it, So that argument with the ratings. There's 547 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: twenty people around a television. They're all having barbecues, but 548 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: they're not sitting at home. So yeah, the ratings might 549 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 6: be down, but everybody is watching it. I guarantee every 550 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 6: Queenslander and people in New South Wales will be watching it. 551 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: If it's played in the day or twilight, you. 552 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: Have to mess with it. What's wrong with it? 553 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: What changing? Why do they change it in the first place? 554 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: No idea, I can't remember. 555 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: It probably. 556 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 4: Broken. 557 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: It was probably the broken and there was the broadcast. 558 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: You know it's late, you get out of there, late 559 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: ages to get home. 560 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: Las Vegas. 561 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Las Vegas high, like highest ratings have the peter 562 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 6: Landers are so proud of. 563 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: Was it one o'clock and three o'clock kickoff or two 564 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: o'clock day games? 565 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: Right? 566 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: The highest double our ratings. 567 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: Do you want to borrow my right ben? 568 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: But the game say, the only difference there is that 569 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 5: was a unique experience. 570 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: And that was a Grand Final. 571 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: There's a Grand Fall every year. 572 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: One off it was. 573 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: It's not a one off. 574 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 7: It was the first time was held, so people were 575 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 7: always going to go to tune into that cord in. 576 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: The first times. Another high rating game played in the day. 577 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 7: I just don't understand why there is this obsession. We're 578 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 7: changing something. It's not the session, it's years opinion from 579 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 7: a lot of people. 580 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: It's not an obsession, it's an opinion of like a 581 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: lot of punters. 582 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 3: Nine out of ten people don't want a night Grand Final. 583 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: You're one of the one out of ten. 584 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: Well, there's eighty thousand near the other. 585 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: You've just been carved up. But you know what stick around.