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Speaker 1: From the Australian. This is the weekend edition of the

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Speaker 1: Front Unclaire Harvey. Wuthering Heights is the most polarizing cinema

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Speaker 1: event of twenty twenty six. Reviewers have thrown at five

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Speaker 1: stars or one, audiences have loved it or walked out

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Speaker 1: of the cinema. One thing people agree on is that

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Speaker 1: Emerald Fanelle's adaptation of Emily Bronte's story of love and

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Speaker 1: Revenge is for women, specifically young women. So joining me

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Speaker 1: today is Bianca far Marcus, content director of Culture at

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Speaker 1: The Australian and a young woman and spoiler alert, she

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Speaker 1: hated it. What should you do here?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you were rich supposor and do all Richmond

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Speaker 2: live in a big ouse?

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Speaker 3: It be cruel to my servants.

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Speaker 1: Take a wife, a wife? What wife?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 1: The Australian's got a new chief film critic, Nikki Gammel,

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Speaker 1: and she announced herself in the role with a pretty

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Speaker 1: startling review Wuthering Heights.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, five stars, my first ever five star review.

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Speaker 1: Bianca far Marcus is The Australian's Content director of Culture

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Speaker 1: and Bianca, it's safe to say Nicki loved this movie.

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Speaker 5: Yes, she absolutely loved the film. I think it's one

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Speaker 5: of the most exciting reviews I've read of Wuthering Heights,

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Speaker 5: and our audience loved either agreeing with her or getting

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Speaker 5: into a debate, which this film seems to be sparking

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Speaker 5: a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Emerald Fanelle has electrified the franchise. I watched the nineteen

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Speaker 4: thirty nine Wathering Heights you know, Lawrence Olivier mil Oberon

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Speaker 4: with my heart. I watched the very Door Overly Yearness

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Speaker 4: twenty eleven Andrea Arnold version with my head. I watched

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 1: With my groin. Bianka, you got Nikki and a few

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Speaker 1: of our other experts, Jordi Gray and Melanda rout into

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Speaker 1: the State Theater to have a deep dive into who

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Speaker 1: loved Wathering Heights and who hated it.

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Speaker 4: We are at the glorious State Theater in Sydney. We're

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Speaker 4: just a couple of weeks ago. Wathering Heights made its

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Speaker 4: Australian premiere quite divisive ever since. I think we should

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Speaker 4: turn to bi Anchor.

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Speaker 5: Let me just start by saying I don't think Wathering

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Speaker 5: Heights is necessarily a bad movie. I would say it's

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Speaker 5: the worst film I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Banker.

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Speaker 5: Now, I know I'm surrounded by fans here, and I

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Speaker 5: would just like to kick off this conversation by saying,

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Speaker 5: what was it that you actually enjoyed?

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Speaker 1: I loved It's audacity.

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Speaker 6: For me, It's about women being audacious and breaking through

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Speaker 6: with boldness and daring, just as Emily Bronte did in

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Speaker 6: eighteen forty six eighteen forty seven. Emerald Fanelle has seized

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Speaker 6: the ip, the original product and made something electric and

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Speaker 6: alive and Dann sexy.

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Speaker 4: I just take off my hat to her.

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Speaker 1: The ankle. We're gonna look at what some other people

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Speaker 1: thought of this movie, but I need to know more

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Speaker 1: about why you hated it. Why did you hate this

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Speaker 1: movie so much?

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Speaker 5: It's three things. Firstly, all style, no substance. Secondly, and

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Speaker 5: I really hope I'm not deported for this one, but

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Speaker 5: Margot Robbie and Jacob e Loordi cannot act together. They

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Speaker 5: were hopeless.

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Speaker 2: I have not broken your heart, have broken it, and

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Speaker 2: in breaking it, you've broken minds kussas broth Betun.

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Speaker 5: Thirdly would be the positioning of this film as a

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Speaker 5: great love story, which has caused a lot of drama

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Speaker 5: for a lot of different reasons. People are upset that

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Speaker 5: it deviated so much from the original text. People are

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Speaker 5: upset that it kind of ignores the whole domestic violence

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Speaker 5: element to it. My main gripe was that if you're

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Speaker 5: going to position something as a love story, you need

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Speaker 5: to get actors with the slightest bit of chemistry, and

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Speaker 5: the symbolism used was just the most lazy and boring

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Speaker 5: kind of hints at subtle sexuality. I think I've ever

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Speaker 5: had the misfortune of watching for two and a half

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Speaker 5: hours of my life. I cannot tell you how much

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Speaker 5: I hated this movie.

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Speaker 1: I really don't want to see it because I, as

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Speaker 1: a devoted Jane Austen fan fine the Bronte sisters and

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Speaker 1: their gothic running around on the moor's kind of ripping

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Speaker 1: your clothes often crying novels really tedious. I also found

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Speaker 1: really tedious Saltburn, which is the movie that everyone loves

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Speaker 1: by Emerald Fanell. Hello Oliver Darning, Oh beautiful eyes, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Wonderful No, I told you it wasn't a Minger Oh,

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Speaker 4: but Darning your kind about everyone you can't be trusted?

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Speaker 1: Did you like Saltburn?

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Speaker 5: I found Saltburn fine personally. I thought it was a

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Speaker 5: poor man's Tom Ripley and just focused more on the

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Speaker 5: depravity than anything else. It had interesting bits, and I

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Speaker 5: think visually she is an impeccable filmmaker, and I think

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Speaker 5: our time and really shows like kind of this new

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Speaker 5: generational shift of how we're watching films. My personal favorite

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Speaker 5: was her debut promising Young Woman.

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Speaker 1: Oh you Hi, I'm back because I think you gave

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Speaker 1: me a fake number.

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Speaker 2: The other day.

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Speaker 7: I'm not really looking to date anyone at the moment, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Me, neither.

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Speaker 4: Would you.

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Speaker 1: Be interested in a friendship And I'm secretly pining for you.

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Speaker 2: The whole time.

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Speaker 5: The substance, the nuance of it, every single element of

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Speaker 5: that film was just a work of art. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what's happened since. I think for anyone wanting to

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Speaker 5: know whether they should see whether in Heights or not,

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Speaker 5: I'd say read a Vogue, drop a cardon of eggs

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Speaker 5: on the floor, and look at someone you find attractive

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Speaker 5: from a distance, and think about what it would be

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Speaker 5: like to be with them for five minutes. You pretty

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Speaker 5: much just saved yourself two and a half hours and

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Speaker 5: ten minutes that's what you get.

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Speaker 1: Throw a bucket of cold water on yourself and pretend

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Speaker 1: you're on the Yorkshire Wars. Let's read a review by

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Speaker 1: The Independence Clarice Lowry. She gave it one star. She said,

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Speaker 1: adaptation or not, it's an astonishingly hollow work. Some of this,

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Speaker 1: it can be argued, was already signaled by the film's

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Speaker 1: casting and the choice to obliterate any mention of race,

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Speaker 1: colonialism or ostracization in the telling of Pseudo Siblings Kafyine

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Speaker 1: Heathcliff's destructive codependence. Heathcliff, who's ethnically ambiguous appearance is of

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Speaker 1: great concern to every other character in the book, is

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Speaker 1: played by white Australian actor Jacob Alaudie. Now this has

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Speaker 1: been a thread of the commentary about Jacob Elordie's performance.

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Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not, there's a critique that

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Speaker 1: he's too basically. I think that might be a little

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Speaker 1: bit unfair. I mean, yes, he is not a gypsy

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Speaker 1: as Heathcliff is described in the original text, but he's

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Speaker 5: I think people getting hung up on the fact that

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Speaker 5: it's not directly a representation of the book are missing

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Speaker 5: the point that Emerald Fanell intentionally put it in inverted commons.

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Speaker 5: We know it's wuthering heights in her interpretation, and I

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Speaker 5: also just think it riscins the ability to move on

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Speaker 5: that's turned into a film that is very loyal to that,

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Speaker 5: and I think it's important, But I also don't know

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Speaker 5: why that's become such a sticking point when there's plenty

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Speaker 5: of other things to hate about this movie.

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Speaker 1: There are certainly ways to adapt iconic novels without being

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Speaker 1: faithful to the text. Clueless is a great example of that,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties movie that's an adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma.

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Speaker 7: You're like, I go out like that are share?

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Speaker 2: I get in here?

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Speaker 4: What's that? Daddy?

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Speaker 1: What the hell is that?

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Speaker 3: Address?

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Speaker 1: Says who Calvin Klein.

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Speaker 2: It looks like underwear.

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Speaker 1: Go upstairs and put something over it.

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Speaker 4: So I was just going to.

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Speaker 1: It managed to be funny and incisive and different, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't get itself into the same jam that Emerald

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Speaker 1: Fanell's now in, And maybe inverted commason on enough to

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Speaker 1: distance you from the original text.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, my personal favorites ten things I

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Speaker 5: Hate about you The Taming of the Shrew.

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Speaker 4: All right, anyone braving up to read theirs aloud?

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Speaker 7: I will lord, here we go. I hate the way

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Speaker 7: you talk to me and the way you cut your hair.

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Speaker 7: I hate the way you drive my car. I hate

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Speaker 7: it when you stare. I hate your big, dumb combat

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Speaker 7: boots and the way you read my mind. I hate

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Speaker 7: you so much it makes me sick. It even makes

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Speaker 7: me rhyme.

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Speaker 5: I guess what those achieved was taking it completely out

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Speaker 5: of the world that it was said in, whereas Emerald

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Speaker 5: Fanel kind of does this sort of lazy flirtation with

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Speaker 5: it and then just ignores everything else. So it's a

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Speaker 5: balance of which parts that she ignored that you really

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Speaker 1: Now, Emerald Fanil is a millennial, but only just she's

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Speaker 1: forty years old. Yes, she's getting much closer to my

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Speaker 1: end of the spectrum then to yours. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of talk about how she's reinventing cinema for a

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Speaker 1: You're a young woman. Why did that not connect with you?

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Speaker 5: Other than the fact that it was beautiful to look at.

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Speaker 5: I think it had absolutely nothing to really hook into,

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Speaker 5: And I think this one was kind of a failure

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Speaker 5: it did have those sexy celebrities editing that makes the

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Speaker 1: The New Yorkers Justin Chang wrote this in his review.

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Speaker 1: The actors generate sparks of passion, but no deeper air

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Speaker 1: of tragic or romantic inevitability, no sense of a bond

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Speaker 1: forged between souls, and only a smidgen of the corrosive

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Speaker 1: rage that makes Wuthering Heights as much of a hate

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Speaker 1: story as it is a love story. You hated it,

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Speaker 1: obviously that you're bringing the hate. What about the sex?

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Speaker 1: Was it sexy? Ah?

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Speaker 5: It was just lazy. It was like, let's rely on

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Speaker 5: a fish. Also, the thing that I find quite interesting

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Speaker 5: about this is she didn't change the historical context of it. Right.

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Speaker 5: This is in the eighteenth century, a pre refrigeration period,

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Speaker 5: might I add, So the kind of the idea that

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Speaker 1: What was the thing about the eggs? Behind the eggs? Please,

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Speaker 1: you gotta tell me these eggs. Everyone's talking about eggs.

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Speaker 5: These eggs in this economy is what bothers me the

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Speaker 5: most about this film. It's just like it's a symbol

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Speaker 5: that Heathcliff keeps leaving her smashed eggs in her bed

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Speaker 5: no one in this village is starving because they just

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Speaker 5: get to smash eggs all the time.

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Speaker 1: The eggs could be about fertility, about sort of smashing

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Speaker 1: her fertility. There could be about you know, bodily.

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Speaker 5: Fluids, honestly, and I'm like, I'm meant to believe that

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Speaker 5: that's sexy. Really, I mean, don't get me wrong, I

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Speaker 5: particularly for women, tap into that whole thing of like

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Speaker 5: we want to think about it rather than just see,

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Speaker 5: like you know, full on sex scenes. But also, I

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Speaker 5: just did nothing for me. I just cannot fathom that

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Speaker 5: these two people had any chemistry whatsoever. It's like confirms

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Speaker 5: my firm belief that there should always be one ugly

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Speaker 5: something else driving you there to stay with them. These

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Speaker 5: are two gorgeous and might I add, very talented actors

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Speaker 5: that should never again be in a film together.

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Speaker 1: They've taken the chemistry or unfortunately not the eggs to

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Speaker 1: on a red carpet, they're kind of all over each other.

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Speaker 1: They're posting social media videos with matching rings. That is

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Speaker 1: sort of breaking the fourth wall in a quite old way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we meant to believe that Margot and Jacob

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Speaker 1: are actually obsessed with each other in real life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think this is a masterclass in marketing.

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Speaker 3: Alison told me about Alex Cameron, who I know know

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Speaker 3: Alex Cameron loves modern day meet Look, why have we

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Speaker 2: The way.

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Speaker 5: They clearly did all these things just to build the

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Speaker 5: characters engraved on it. It's just a marketing ploy, and

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Speaker 5: it's a very good one, but it doesn't do anything

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Speaker 5: then spurn a thousand think pieces talking about how bad

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Speaker 1: Is it going to win any awards? Is this an

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Speaker 1: all school worthy film?

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Speaker 5: Do you think I think it's a Razzie worthy film

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Speaker 5: if you're not on the judging fannel, no, I know

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Speaker 5: not yet, but look, I think there are definitely accolades

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Speaker 5: to be paid for the costuming and the set design

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Speaker 5: is incredible. But yeah, I'm going to give it a

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Speaker 5: solid note for the Oscars. Also makes sense for why

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Speaker 5: they released in February, because they completely missed the season

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Speaker 5: and they will most certainly not be making it the

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Speaker 5: next year.

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Speaker 1: Bianko far Marcus, I think you've made up my mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to see it, and I'm really happy

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 5: Wait till streaming.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Biancher far Marcus is Content director of Culture at The Australian.

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Speaker 1: this week. Our team includes Kristin Amiot Leat Sammaglue, Tiffany

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