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Speaker 1: Gooday, champions, Welcome back to another installment of the project.

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Speaker 1: That's you. Perry and I had a big chat yesterday

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Speaker 1: about all things, you know, food and training and lifestyle

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Speaker 1: and health, and we were doing something of a Q

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Speaker 1: and A around your cues and our a's that went forever,

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Speaker 1: was very long. We were both very verbose. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We did not intend to do a two part.

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Speaker 1: We intended to do a one part of about forty

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Speaker 1: five sixty minutes. It ended up being double that or more,

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Speaker 1: and so here we are. We turned it into two bits.

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Speaker 1: This is bit too. Perry Anarchus and himself enjoy it. Alrighty,

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Speaker 1: giddy up, this is fun. The next one is from

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Speaker 1: Melissa Allen. Shout out to you, Melissa, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: even going to answer because this is straight into your wheelhouse.

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Speaker 1: The question is should you consume prot soon before or

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Speaker 1: after strength training? Pezza?

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Speaker 2: Oh that look. I hear this one all the time

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Speaker 2: and I love it. And it sort of goes against

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Speaker 2: the rules sometimes, but the science is there and the

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Speaker 2: results are there so simple. If you haven't had enough

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Speaker 2: protoin in the day, has some protein after the workout.

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Speaker 2: If you've had protein before your workout, have your protein

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Speaker 2: later in the day, it doesn't matter. It's not critical.

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Speaker 2: This anabolic window that we got told you've got to

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Speaker 2: be there it's exactly twenty two minutes at eighteen seconds,

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Speaker 2: otherwise you will fade away does not exist. There is

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Speaker 2: an anabolic response. There is, but it all depends on

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Speaker 2: the amount of protein they eat through the day. And

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Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, it's your total protein intake that matters.

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Speaker 2: So if I've eaten w We're talking about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty grands of protein in the day, and I've

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Speaker 2: done a workout, having protein before or after, it means

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Speaker 2: no difference to me. You'll still get the same antabolic response.

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Speaker 2: There's no magic hate. Guess what, I've had one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty grands. But now I'm going to have a

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Speaker 2: protain shake straight after a workout, I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: five QoS. Figger, It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: Can you just explain to our listeners that when we

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Speaker 1: say anabolic, we're not talking about steroids or gear. Just

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Speaker 1: tell because I think when you use the word anabolic,

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Speaker 1: people like I don't fucking use that. Well, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we all have anabolic and catabolic responses. Just explain what

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Speaker 1: an anabolic response is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'm glad you pointing that out, because now

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Speaker 2: I've got a big smile on my face. Go oops,

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Speaker 2: that was a bit of an anabolic means for your

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Speaker 2: muscles to grow. So you're in what we call a

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Speaker 2: positive nitrogen balance. In other words, you're not losing muscle.

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Speaker 2: You've done your workout, You've done created a stimulus from

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Speaker 2: that mechanical tension as a response, and your muscle is

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Speaker 2: now growing. That is known as an anabolic response to training.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and catabolic everyone is the opposite. Catabolic is

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Speaker 1: basically muscle wasting or tears down muscle. And interestingly, you

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Speaker 1: when we are stressed, when we are anxious, one of

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Speaker 1: the hormones we produce is cortisol, and cordisole is catabolic.

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Speaker 1: And so literally, stress and anxiety and lack of sleep

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Speaker 1: don't want you to get stressed about your stress. But

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Speaker 1: you know, all of those things, stress, anxiety, under sleeping,

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Speaker 1: all of those things actually have a negative impact on

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Speaker 1: your capacity to build muscle, build strength, and keep it.

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Speaker 1: So there's a real there's a relationship between nervous system,

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Speaker 1: endocrime system, and muscular system and our ability to build

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Speaker 2: The things people need to realize though, because I've seen

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Speaker 2: people take that information and look at it as an

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Speaker 2: I should not have any cortisol. That's crazy. We need

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Speaker 2: quordisof for the body of the fund, we need estrogen

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Speaker 2: for the body to function, and when need testosterone for

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Speaker 2: have elevated quartersole response to our natural ability. And that's

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Speaker 2: one thing I'd like to lays fear up with people

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Speaker 2: because I've had this discussion where I've looked at someone's

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, well it's not over six hundred and

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Speaker 2: you took it after you had a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect. That's okay, You're not going to die,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to lose muscling, You'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: You know that is so interesting, right, you just said something,

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Speaker 1: then you had your blood test done after a cup

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, one hundred percent. I'll interrupt you here at

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Speaker 2: a classic example. I had a kind that would eat

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Speaker 2: a big carbohydrate meal. Look you, the potatoes were passa

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Speaker 2: blood glucose response. But they were going, right, we're on

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Speaker 2: borderline top of two diabetes. Whatever. I've looked at the

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Speaker 2: let's flip this around. Let's see you have your pasta

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Speaker 2: something different, You've taken some medication, whatever, And it's like, nah,

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Speaker 2: we just changed the environment. Why are you eating and

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Speaker 2: when you're eating? That made such a big difference on

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Speaker 1: My last one just quickly. They used to you kind

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Speaker 1: of touched on this last question. But there used to

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Speaker 1: be this widely held theory in the bodybuilding community. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how scientific it was. I guess is not

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Speaker 1: very but that we could only absorb or assimilate thirty

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Speaker 1: everybody's got a different gut biome, and everybody's you know,

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Speaker 1: Any number? Is there? Like? What is that about? Is

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was taught at the university the same thing.

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Speaker 2: It's thirty grams of protein at one sitting, and that's

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Speaker 2: why you need to space out your protein depending on

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Speaker 2: what you've eate them with that meal stuff it's a

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Speaker 2: carbohydrate based meal and you've had more protin than that.

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Speaker 2: That protein will actually then be converted into ureaq acid

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Speaker 2: what this has really done in let's say the nutrition

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Speaker 2: So it's really rattled a lot of people. My own

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Speaker 2: we're finding is is that if it's let's say, insider

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Speaker 2: And for the bodybuilding environment, Everyone's gone, who who, here

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Speaker 1: It's so interesting. It's like I only ate two meals

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Speaker 1: body and one of me, and for me, that's what works.

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Speaker 1: But I think that you know, being able to understand

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Speaker 1: as well as you know, whatever whatever's resonating for you

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Speaker 1: But but what that thing that you do, that change

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Speaker 1: he was talking about It doesn't matter what he was

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Speaker 1: talking about, but all this study that shows that this

428
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it was actually about nicotine. Anyway, it doesn't matter,

429
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: but he was like espousing the virtues of this and

430
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: that and blah blah. Might have been something else.

431
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm the one you're talking about.

432
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: Exactly anyway, maybe, but anyway, I'm like, really, that doesn't.

433
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: I'm like, that doesn't. Anyway, I went, I've got to

434
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: find the research because what's coming out of his mouth doesn't.

435
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: And I went and looked at it, and then I

436
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: looked at the study. Well, the study was done in

437
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: like it was like the equivalent of me doing the

438
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: study in my fucking billiard room with five of my

439
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: mates who were pissed. Right, It's like there were fourteen

440
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: people in the trial, right, seven using whatever and seven

441
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: plus I don't know, but the actual study design, right,

442
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: So when in my research, right, anything that doesn't have

443
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: at least one hundred participants is not respected, right in

444
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: a lot of research anyway, So it had fourteen and

445
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 1: seven of them were you you know? And then anyway,

446
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: the bottom line is once I actually opened the door

447
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 1: and I read the paper, and I'm like, well, this

448
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: is this is the worst fucking science of all time.

449
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't I would not give this, you know,

450
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: But if it happened to be great science, I'd go,

451
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: all right, well I just learned something new. But I

452
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: think this is the thing we need to be. You know.

453
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Speaker 1: Just because someone says this is science, one, that doesn't

454
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Speaker 1: mean it is science free start. And two, it doesn't

455
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Speaker 1: mean that it's good science. And three it doesn't mean

456
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: that there's not other science in inverted commas, which says

457
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: that that's bullshit. I remember, I'm going to shut up

458
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: after this, But when we were up on the highway

459
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: at Harper's where you were fucking running the show, and

460
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: I was just in the corner office like a did

461
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: right when you were fucking captain of the kids. I

462
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: have these two books in my office. One was called

463
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Speaker 1: Protein Power and another one I can't remember the name,

464
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: but they both basically taught the opposite thing, and they

465
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Speaker 1: were all researched and referenced with science. I'm like, yeah, anyway,

466
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to ask you a question. This

467
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Speaker 1: is from Karen Ah Karen Karen Judge. Karen's question is

468
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Speaker 1: why do experts Now, Karen, I don't think all experts do,

469
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Speaker 1: but I agree with you that. And also I don't

470
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Speaker 1: know that the people that you're talking about are experts,

471
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Speaker 1: but they might call themselves experts. Anyway, The question is

472
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Speaker 1: why do experts recommend highly processed snacks for young athletes?

473
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Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I think some experts in

474
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Speaker 1: inverted commas do do that. But I also put an

475
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Speaker 1: asterisk next to that term pezzat. Oh hey, sorry, just

476
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: there's a bit more. Why is it that young ath

477
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Speaker 1: so it's fifteen years old plus or often encourage it

478
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Speaker 1: highly processed foods like Carmens, Musley bars, protein bars, up

479
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: and go, up and go. Fuck? Have you ever looked

480
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: what's in that? Sugary snacks like snakes lollies before comp

481
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Speaker 1: especially when they're packed with artificial ingredients added is blah

482
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Speaker 1: blah blah. After all, many of these foods aren't considered

483
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: real or whole foods, So why are they recommended? Ready set, Perry,

484
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Speaker 1: get up on your high horse.

485
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Speaker 2: Oh the love this one I've had? Yeah, the lovely classy,

486
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: let's say, interesting and linnet discussion with so many sports

487
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: dieticians because that's what usually comes from and as simple

488
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Speaker 2: as this. They look at the science and go, we

489
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Speaker 2: need to get a large amount of carbohydrates in really

490
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Speaker 2: quick into this human body. Right, they're going to be sprinking,

491
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: they're running whatever, and they go, right, the big long

492
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Speaker 2: snake that's got fourteen different colors, is loaded now with

493
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Speaker 2: ninety grams of carbohydrates. Gender danger's throat and go out

494
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: there and run, little boy or little girl. And that's

495
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Speaker 2: where this comes from. And you know, it just depends

496
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Speaker 2: on which nutrition is sports diet tisian or diet tissian

497
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Speaker 2: that you talk to, whether they will recommend that I

498
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Speaker 2: go totally against that sort of stuff and look at

499
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Speaker 2: different types of food to increase one carbohydrate content in

500
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Speaker 2: the body, because carbohydrates are your main fuel source. That's

501
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: what you need for readily expendable energy, energy, nothing else.

502
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: So therefore, if I want to increase someone's carbohydrate content

503
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: so they can get out there and do stuff, I

504
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: would look at stuff like sweet potato, white potato. I

505
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: would look at dosmai rice where for every one hundred

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: grams there's seventy grams of carbohydrates. So they can have

507
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: a beautiful carbo hydrate meal, have it warm so they

508
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: can absorb into the body more effectively, so to get

509
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: their carbs up rather than going to someone go and

510
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: have two up and go run and then up and

511
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: go to the toilet as well, because that's what's going

512
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: to do to you. So why Unfortunately some of the

513
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: experts look at it from one technical point and say,

514
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Speaker 2: we need to get carbohydrates in. Let's look at the

515
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 2: macro nutrient value of this food group. And I'd use

516
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Speaker 2: the word food group very loosely because it's in a

517
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: packet and it's processed, and it wasn't near two hundred

518
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: years ago. But they go, this bar whatever it might be,

519
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: might have fifty or sixty grams of carbohydrates. For the

520
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: energy expenditure that's required for this activity might require that

521
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: fifty or sixty grams of carbohydrates. This go do your

522
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: activity bomb WARMU box is ticked.

523
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: So we're looking there really at almost like a mathematical thing. Oh,

524
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: they need sixty grams of this, so this has got

525
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: sixty grams of that, But we're not factoring in the

526
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Speaker 1: quality of the nutrition at all.

527
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: Un percent correct?

528
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so all right though here Devil's advocate. So

529
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Speaker 1: I've just run ten k's as fucking if can't you

530
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: do that every morning?

531
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Speaker 2: Don't I?

532
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: So if I'm lying, we may as well lie good.

533
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: All right, I've just run twenty k's in I've just

534
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Speaker 1: run twenty k's in eighty minutes, so four minute k's

535
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Speaker 1: averaging fifteen klim It is an now, because I'm a

536
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: fucking weapon and I get home. I get home and

537
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel like a meal, but I know I've

538
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: got to get So am I better off to go

539
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: rather than having cooked food which I don't feel like

540
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: in the moment? Am I better off to go the

541
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: pre mentioned banana or some fruit or something that's got

542
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: both nutrition but also the carbs and sugar I need,

543
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: or no hundred.

544
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Speaker 2: Percent someone you'd look at, you'd look at let's say,

545
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: what your energy requirements are for that race, what have

546
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: you eaten before the race? And then what are you

547
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: requiring the next four hours. Here's the interesting point. The

548
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: next four hours to help your body replenish the carbohydrate

549
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: sauce so that you're not sore, that you're muscle recovering.

550
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: You feel better the next forty eight hours. So when

551
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: we look at that, I would say to someone, you know,

552
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: do you like pineapple? Have some pineapple? Do you like bananas?

553
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: Have some bananas using in the shape. If you really

554
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: want to crank it up, I'd put let's say a

555
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: banana in there with some protein powder and even add

556
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: some glucose powder in there to put it than to

557
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: increase your carbohydrate intact, to make it as a drink

558
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: so it gets in quite easily into your body and

559
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: replenge you yourself. And this worry about an insulance spike

560
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: and it's going to give you diabetes and all that. Yeah,

561
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: that's your body's normal response. You will always have an

562
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: insulince spike when you eat carbohydrates. It's normal. So while

563
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: we worried about insulance spikes.

564
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Love it all, right, let's move on. I'm interested in

565
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: this because I shove oats in my face. I've heard

566
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: hang on before I ask you a specific question, I

567
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: want to ask you a general question about oats. What

568
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about oats?

569
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: I love them, absolutely love them, as long as they

570
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: are a high quality oat. Right, So it comes from

571
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: with say an organic farm whatever, or if you want

572
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: to take it up because there's different processes involved. Have

573
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: steel cutoats, which means the processing is less, there's not

574
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: as process much. You've just been You've got the oats,

575
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: they've been hold then they get milled down by still

576
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: cut process and the origin. The only problem is with

577
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: steel cutoats you need to prep them overnight, so you know,

578
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: you put all your milk in there or your water,

579
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. Let them soak overnight to

580
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: the next day and you can eat them the next day.

581
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: That's the sorry mate, Sorry what I mean. I've never

582
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: heard that term until right now. Like I have rolled oats,

583
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: which is just like the big I mean, it's like

584
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: if you look at the size of your fingernail, depends

585
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: they're like, my oats are about that big, which I

586
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: don't know. That's a fucking stupid thing to say. I'm

587
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: trying to. I'm trying to. Hey, everyone, look at your

588
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: little fingernail. Of course, every fingernails are exactly the same size.

589
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm not a dickhead at all. So what are steel

590
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: cut oats? Like? What do they? Where do I get them?

591
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: So?

592
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Are you saying no to the rolled oats? No?

593
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: No, no, you can have roll those. So they've got

594
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: three different processes, right, We've got the lowest process one

595
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: other steel cutoats. It means you've got your men hole.

596
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: They run through this your meals. I just mentioned like

597
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: they're still precedent passion.

598
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, and.

599
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: That breaks them down your role thoughts. They exactly that

600
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: process of the oats that have been rolled to get

601
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: the kernels out, and they've been flattened out and then

602
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 2: rolled thoats that have just been broken down even finer,

603
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: so they can be absorbed easily, but they can be

604
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: cooked faster as well. So then you're like, what do

605
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: I call them two minute oats or whatever?

606
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: It is? So okay, So can I tell you my breakfast?

607
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: And I want you to give me an honest rating

608
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: out of ten?

609
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: Okay, like like how honest, honest.

610
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: Honest if you think it's shit I want you to

611
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: tell me it's shit.

612
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Not going to kick me off the podcast. Eh, yeah,

613
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: I'll fuck you off.

614
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: Don't worry about that. No, no, no, I want you

615
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: to tell me what I'm probably not going to change

616
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: because it seems to work for me. But this is

617
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: what I have exactly. And again, apologies, but we're always

618
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: got you know, some people have heard this, most haven't.

619
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: We've always got NW listers on. So this is my breakfast.

620
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Eighty grams of rolled oats.

621
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Speaker 2: Well to craik, let me just jump in. Is that

622
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: pre cooked?

623
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Way? This is pre cooked? This is all like you're

624
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: going to laugh at what I do, right, You're gonna laugh.

625
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: This is very probably I'm probably fucking throwing myself under

626
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: the bus and losing what little credibility I had with

627
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: my listeners. So I have so you know, the what

628
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: are the not the barmis what do you call it?

629
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: The fucking m thing? You put it in neutrable neutrableet. Yeah,

630
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: so this is what I do. I have my Neutrabullet

631
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: I put it on my scales. Hang on, gets better.

632
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: I put in eighty grams of rolldots. I put in

633
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: forty grams of almonds. I put in forty grams of

634
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: protein powder chocolate protein powder.

635
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: Is there any way prone and isolate or concentrate.

636
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Ford? I know, I should know. Are you going to

637
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: tell me concentrates better?

638
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, isolates better?

639
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I actually do think it's isolate. I think it's Max's.

640
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: I'll give a shout out to Maxes. Again. There's lots

641
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: of good protein powders everyone. I happen to use that.

642
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: So forty grams of protein, forty grams of almonds, eighty

643
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: grams of boats, so that's one hundred and sixty grams.

644
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Then I sh that shit up so it becomes basically powder, right,

645
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: and then I put two dessert spoons of sillium husk

646
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: on that, and I put all that shit in a bowl.

647
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: And then this is probably where you're going to kick

648
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: me in the dick and punch me in the face.

649
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: I know that it's shit, but I use like fucking

650
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: oat milk core, almond milk core, just because me and

651
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: lactose aren't awesome. I could probably just have it with water.

652
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: That's it. That's my breakfast. And to me, it's like

653
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: a fucking yummy like chocolate moose. I mean, I know

654
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: it's not, but it's and I eat the same thing

655
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: every day.

656
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to suggest one change or not one change,

657
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: one addition would be a better thing. As you're smiling

658
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: and now your body language is changing, you're ready to

659
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: be very I can see very defensive right now, actually

660
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: getting cross eyed. And I've seen that look before. I

661
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: remember that look at the Harpodrome, right when I dropped

662
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: the waves off the leaf press. I still have not

663
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: forgotten that day. I'm going to suggest that you add

664
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: one small teaspoon of extra vergin olive oil to that,

665
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: just get some good fats in there. You've got good

666
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: fats from an almond. But I don't have to drive

667
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: race or not. But olive oil is a Mega nine.

668
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Basically that's the most important companion of the olive oil.

669
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: And Omega nine has so many benefits for the rest

670
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: of your day to help you out. So you've got

671
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: you've got your plato and in from your way, You've

672
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: got your carbohydrates in from your oats. You've got good

673
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: amount of carbohydrates. You've got a lot of fiber in

674
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: that meal. You're getting calcium from your oat milk or

675
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: whatever milk. You're having them.

676
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: Is it the either almond milk or oat milk?

677
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I like what concerns memen. I've seen

678
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: people milk and almond cow. That sort of scares me

679
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. But you're getting you're getting your calcium

680
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: from there, which is fine. So it's a good start today.

681
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: It's not too bad.

682
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Now. How much olive oil should I put in?

683
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: That's a small tea spent five milk. I really even

684
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: taste it. You will not even taste it yet. The

685
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: benefits of that physiologically off the clock. Mate.

686
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Okay, oh fuck, I'm being very self indulgent now, all right, now,

687
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: if I do all of that with my and yes

688
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm an only child, and yes I need approval, If

689
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: I do all of that with olive oil, what score

690
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: do you give me out of ten?

691
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: If I give you a score out of ten as

692
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: an only child that needs to.

693
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: Get the miss no, no, no, no, I don't want that.

694
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I want the child is law. Mate.

695
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: You're not the only one here that's an only child.

696
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: All right, so I'm bouncing it back. I will give

697
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: you an eight out of ten for that.

698
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: Okay, good right, that'll do. Fuck, I'm all right with

699
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: that because.

700
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: I would flip the milk over and have real milk,

701
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 2: but have lectose free milk. And then I would add

702
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: a teaspoon of fish oil as well, so you get

703
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: your omiga threes in there.

704
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: So you're fucking disgusting. I'm not having a fish stick

705
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: your fish ail up your clacker. And now before we

706
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: move on to the next one, I just want to say,

707
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: Lily Waterhouse, that all that stuff about oats, Lily, that

708
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: was that was kind of for you and a little

709
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: bit for me. Thank you for that. All right, Um,

710
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: so this is from Andrea. Andrea says, I'm fifty five.

711
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: I'm a lifetime yo yo dieter. That's a pretty big

712
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: club that you're in, Andrea. I was in that for

713
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: quite a while myself. I was the president of that

714
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: club for a while. Spasmodic exercise it if I was

715
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: wanting to begin to change my habits for health rather

716
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: than to lose weight, what would be the one or

717
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: two most important things? Oh wow, to begin with, I

718
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: don't even know if I should have read that before,

719
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: but Andrew, I did read it. I did read it, Andrew,

720
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: and we're recording, so I can't unread it. But and

721
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: the reason that I'm a little hesitant is because that's

722
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: like saying, how long is a bit of string? But

723
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: so I'm going to talk in broad generic terms and

724
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: then Pezzy, you think about what you want to say

725
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: while I'm waffling. So in broad terms, what matters most

726
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 1: is that you find something this is what I think

727
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: that's somewhere between pretty effective and perfect. Right. Obviously, if

728
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: we're doing the wrong thing consistently, well that's not good.

729
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: But as long as we're doing something that's you know,

730
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: for the most part appropriate for you in terms of

731
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, your food or your sleep, or your whatever

732
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: lifestyle variable or exercise, but also you are consistent with it.

733
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: So if somebody said to me, I want to gain

734
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, heaps of muscle and I'm doing pilarates to

735
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: achieve that, I would say Plartes is great, but that's

736
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: not probably the ideal choice to build heaps of muscle.

737
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: But I'd rather you do pilarates four days a week

738
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: than body building for two weeks and then give up

739
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: for two years. Right, So you know, because pilarates are

740
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: still bidding strength and function and muscle right and bone

741
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: density and all of those things. So the key is

742
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: that we find something that is somewhere between pretty effective

743
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: and really effective, and then that we are consistent with that.

744
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: And I guess one of the ideas around that is,

745
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, like when I talk to people, in an

746
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: ideal world, we'd all eat perfectly all the time. Well,

747
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: none of us are perfect. None of us eat perfectly

748
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: well very few people all the time. And I'm sure

749
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: Perrier can't speak on your behalf correct me when I'm finished.

750
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: But most of the time, when you are talking to people,

751
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: or I'm talking to people, most of us we're probably

752
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: saying something like eat well, train well most of the time,

753
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: you know. And that's a kind of a practical approach.

754
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: And at fifty five, Andrea, as we've said already multiple times,

755
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, fitness is not a thing. Fitness is a

756
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: myriad of things. And under the banner of fitness is

757
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: strength and flexibility and range of movement and balance and

758
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: spatial awareness and muscular endurance and aerobic endurance and a

759
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things that really matter as we get older.

760
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: As we get older, of course, strength aerobic fitnesses are important,

761
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: as is balance, as is coordination. So there are a

762
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: bunch of things that we can train as we get older,

763
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: and even things like, you know, when you're doing the dishes,

764
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: when you're drying the dishes or washing the dishes or whatever,

765
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: waiting for a fucking bus, stand on one foot and

766
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: then stand on the other foot. Just do things that

767
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: you don't need to do, so you're now doing something

768
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: that is reminiscent of maybe what you did when you

769
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: were younger. One of my favorite sayings by George Bernard

770
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: Shaw is, ah, we don't We don't stop playing because

771
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing.

772
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, it's funny that I'm

773
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: talking about this. I'll shut up after this, But I live.

774
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: I walk all the time, as we've said before, and

775
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: about four hundred meters from my house is a park

776
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: with a basketball backboard and a basketball ring. And I

777
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: made a little note to myself this morning as I

778
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: walked past. I'm going to buy myself a basketball this week.

779
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Not because I want to become a basketballer, but I

780
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: used to play basketball a lot. I used to shoot

781
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'm thinking how good would it be

782
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: for my nervous system and my balance and my coordination

783
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: and my dexterity, and for my fitness and for my brain,

784
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: and for a bit of fucking fun to go out

785
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: and shoot some hoops at sixty one. I don't need

786
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: to be good at it. I don't give a fuck

787
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: what anyone thinks. I don't give a fuck if I'm

788
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: sixty one. But I can tell you what me doing

789
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: something like that and reacting to the ball bouncing off

790
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: the board at different angles, it's a really good thing

791
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: to do. So I think a thing that we can

792
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: all do, which is smart and also valuable is keep

793
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: playing as we get older.

794
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: Raga one hundred percent. And that's why I've gone back

795
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: to doing my martial arts. I'm now doing hauptito and

796
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: getting tried around and bashed and kicked in the head

797
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: and gone, this is fun. I love it. So it's

798
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: actually it's actually quite psychologically beneficial for me to actually

799
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: switch off from the world, going there learning new skill,

800
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: apply the skills that I used to know, and get

801
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: my body flexible again, get it moving, get it reactive,

802
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: get it doing what it needs to do, and then

803
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: obviously fuel us off more effectively.

804
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: So what is it? Sorry? What is hap keto?

805
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: Pop Keto is a spin off of taekwondos, so Taypewondo

806
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: is all about using legs. Hap keto is using legs,

807
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: but it's all a very defensive sport, so it's risk locks, throws, takedowns,

808
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, choke out, spoking the eye, stuff like that.

809
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: So a lot of fun. Yeah, it's quite interesting, different

810
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: style of fighting, and my instructor is a little Filipino

811
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: crazy guy, so we get along quite well, and I

812
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. It's been Yeah, I've been doing it

813
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: now for the last four months and we're already graded

814
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: twice and getting forward now to move forward onto my

815
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: blue belt, because I've already got a skill set beforehand,

816
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: so he admires that. And as long as I can

817
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: do the throws and do the stuff he's taught me,

818
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: then and I keep moving forward, which is great, amazing

819
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: in regards to our lovely fifty five year old that's

820
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: going through stuff, you know, asking about what's the best

821
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: thing for your health? Well, you know, what is the

822
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: best thing. It's very difficult to answer that, Like you said,

823
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: how long is a piece of string? But what I

824
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 2: would suggest, and it's been realistic in life, is using

825
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: the eighty twenty rule. When it comes to nutrition and

826
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the time eat whole foods, simple as that.

827
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: And then get someone to educate you and just sit

828
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: down and have a bit of a chat with you

829
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: to work out what your nutritional requirements are, what your

830
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: cars fat and prodine requirements are, at your age, with

831
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: your activity level. That's going to be designed to produce

832
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 2: optimal health and well being that suits you as an

833
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: individual as a person. And if you file the guidelines

834
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: saying you know what you have to eat, and you've

835
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: been educated, and if you file the eighty twenty ruling,

836
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: you don't beat yourself up. If you have a pizza

837
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: and a beer, for example, you'll live a happy and

838
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: long life and you'll actually be able to stick to

839
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: the eighty twenty rule and be successful. Because we find

840
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: that we go to an extreme, let's say nutritional guidelines

841
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: or diet or you know, a prodocol that you have

842
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: to follow one hundred and ten percent, we usually find

843
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: most of the time that everyone's just going to drop

844
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: off the baandbag and then they beat themselves up and

845
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: they go to the other extreme and just binge e crap.

846
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: So we give some a little bit of flexibility and

847
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: give them the guidance and the education more importantly, to

848
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: understand why they're eating a banana, as we use the

849
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: example before, and they understand the potassium, the fiber, the

850
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: carbohydrate content, and therefore that's why they're eating the banana.

851
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Guess what they will want to eat a banana because

852
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 2: they're know I'm just eating a bit of fruit. I'm

853
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 2: eating something that's beneficial for my health and more being

854
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Speaker 2: for the lifestyle that I've created now and the fact

855
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Speaker 2: that I want to stay healthy and a fifty five

856
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Speaker 2: lived to ninety five before we start to slow down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. A friend of mine, for probably

858
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, Monday to Friday he's like a

859
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Speaker 1: fucking Olympic athlete like everything, trains, does martial arts like

860
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Speaker 1: you you know, really good, naturally good athlete. And then

861
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday is like a fucking pissed bloke at the pub.

862
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Now he's not really, but he basically Monday to Friday

863
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: does not has no booze, know anything, eats really well,

864
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Speaker 1: really well. And then on the weekend, I mean he

865
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Speaker 1: doesn't go crazy, but he just doesn't abide by those rules.

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Speaker 1: So if he has three beers and a pizza or

867
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Speaker 1: five beers and a pizza. And and I actually saw

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Speaker 1: him the other day, and I go, what happens on Sunday?

869
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Speaker 1: Like you? He goes, you know, what if I cut

870
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Speaker 1: loose on a Saturday? He goes, I actually hardly do

871
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Speaker 1: anything on a Sunday because my body's so programmed to

872
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: eating clean and that he can't go nuts for a

873
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: whole weekend anyway. His body won't let him. So he goes,

874
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Speaker 1: I might have one or maybe two meals, which you'd

875
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Speaker 1: call in inverted commas bad. He goes, but you know,

876
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Speaker 1: and he's I think he's a four meals a day guy.

877
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Speaker 1: So what's that? Twenty meals through the week? And yeah,

878
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Speaker 1: so what's that? Seven? Four is twenty eight meals a week,

879
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Speaker 1: and of the twenty eight he might have two that

880
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Speaker 1: are not great.

881
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Speaker 2: But sorry, on I've got a friend of mine ing seckles,

882
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: same situation. That's well, I'm smiling. He is actually rang

883
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: me up and complaining. He goes, your new trition plan

884
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: has screwed me over. I'm like, what do you mean?

885
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: What's going on? I've lost weight, I've got more energy,

886
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: I've put on muscle, and then I went out with

887
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Speaker 2: my girlfriend. We went out to a restaurant and I

888
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: ate the junk that I'd normally eat, and I got

889
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Speaker 2: home and I was sick the next day and I

890
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: was on the toilet that night. He goes, I hate you.

891
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Speaker 2: I can't eat that food anymore. I'm like, I'm sorry,

892
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Speaker 2: you get healthy now, I'm really really sorry.

893
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Speaker 1: Hey, mate, you're agun. This has been fun. I did

894
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: not expect that we would talk for so long, but

895
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. So how can people connect with you?

896
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Speaker 1: Find you, follow you, and you know, pay you some

897
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Speaker 1: dough to do what you do? Cool?

898
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Speaker 2: If they want to have a catch up with me,

899
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Speaker 2: they can go to my website, which is ninety nutrition

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Speaker 2: ninety dot com dot au. If they want to send

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Speaker 2: me an email and another one week in organize on

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Speaker 2: one on one console, which I've been doing a lot

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Speaker 2: of lately. It's info at M ninety dot com dot au.

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Speaker 2: That's info at M ninety dot com dot au and

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Speaker 2: more than Michael with forty eight hours, I'll always get

906
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Speaker 2: back to you and organize the time slot so we

907
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: can have a bit of a chat and the consult

908
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Speaker 2: and decide which is the best direction for you to

909
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Speaker 2: take for your health and will be perfect.

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Speaker 1: Mate. I love you, appreciate you. We'll say goodbye affair,

911
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: but I know you're going to do help some people.

912
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Speaker 1: Now move some fucking sandbags or something.

913
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Speaker 2: Thank you on the Queens. Then let's move some sandbags.

914
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Speaker 1: That sounds like fun anyway. I'm glad that's you, not me.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk soon. See you, buddy, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Love you. Go to crego catch a lot, abuty May