WEBVTT - Credlin | 9 July 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:07.959 Pedo Kredlin live on Sky News Australia. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.360 Well, good evening and welcome to the show. I'm Jamie 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.040 Rogers filling in for Peter Kredlin. Here's what's coming up 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:20.000 on Credlin. Australia signs a landmark uranium deal with India, 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.919 helping fuel their nuclear vision for the future. So why 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.640 is nuclear still off the table here at home? Plus, 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:31.520 house prices in Sydney and Melbourne continue to plummet, the 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:36.200 fastest fall since twenty twenty two, but warnings today the 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:40.559 worst is yet to come. Telstra under pressure over the 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.559 outage it says was caused by a software defect, So 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.680 what guarantees do we have that it won't happen again? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.480 And President Donald Trump has reportedly given approval for Ukraine 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.920 to build Patriot air defense systems. What does this mean 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:03.960 for Vladimir Putin? Australia will help power India's future thanks 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.440 to a landmark uranium agreement between the two nations. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:13.440 The arrangement facilitates Australian uranium exports to India to help 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.640 increase the share of non fossil fuel power capacity, providing 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:21.080 an additional market for the Australian resources sector. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.960 India wants to increase their nuclear generation from just eight 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.959 gigawatts today to one hundred gigawatts by twenty forty seven. Why, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:37.160 Because India understands something Australia seems determined to ignore. Reliable, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.120 affordable energy isn't just about keeping the lights on. It's 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:47.120 the foundation of economic growth, powers manufacturing, AI and data centers. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:52.440 It attracts investment and boosts productivity. Tania Constable from the 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.840 Minerals Council Australia said this is an opportunity Australia should 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.600 be seizing. She said, this deal is a big step 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:01.800 forward for Australia. 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.040 It puts us in the box seat. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.040 To meet India's ambitious goals on nuclear power. It sends 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:12.280 a strong clear message that Australian uranium and Australian mining 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:18.240 is of great strategic importance to India. Australia will fuel 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.800 India's nuclear future, yet here at home, we still have 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:27.399 a legislated ban on nuclear power. Australia has almost one 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.680 third of the world's known uranium reserves, but mining bans 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.760 across most of the country mean we are leaving a 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.120 huge economic opportunity in the ground. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.639 According to MCA data. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.359 Australia generated one point two billion dollars in export earnings 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.560 from uranium in twenty three to twenty four, and many 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:53.359 Australian uranium miners have significant operations overseas in places like Africa. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.280 So here's the question. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.360 If Australian uranium is good enough to power India, why 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.320 isn't it good enough to power Australia. The contradiction is 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.360 impossible to ignore. We are happy for other countries to 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.880 strengthen their economies and improve their energy security. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.000 Nuclear is not an answer for Australia. Any time when 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.440 we have such cheap and abundant renewables we can harness 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.280 with the right policy approaches. Nuclear is the slowest form 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.519 of energy to build, the most expensive. Now I would 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.600 rather go with the fastest form of energy to build 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.000 and the cheapness. That's a difference. 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.360 Nuclear isn't right for Australia. This is at a time 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.320 when we are facing energy poverty. We're helping other countries 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.880 with a resource that we're not prepared to use ourselves. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.560 You know that I believe in nuclear energy. It's been 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.560 proven that it works in many countries like France. It's 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 about seventy personality nuclear. This is where I live at 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.000 the moment. Nuclear should be considered by Australia. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.320 We have a lot of union, we have the capability 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.920 we were not, We have skills, have offers now. But 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.640 nuclear is really one of the very skey is not 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.320 the only zero emission sources that run regardless or weather. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.120 And there is another reason this meeting between India and 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.440 Australia is so important. Prime Minister Modi will also have 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.080 access to Australia's critical minerals and rare earths. And these 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.520 are the minerals that power the modern economy for things 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:31.080 like military technology, electric vehicles, wind turbine, smartphones and AI. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.599 They're becoming some of the most strategically important resources on Earth, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:40.440 and right now, China dominates that market. It controls around 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.160 sixty percent of global rare earth mining and ninety percent 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:49.120 of processing. Australia has an opportunity to encourage countries to 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.200 bypass China and come to us instead, not just to 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.800 dig these resources out of the ground, but to process them, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.880 manufacture them, create jobs from them, build new industries around them. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:07.000 That's why today's announcement matters around the world. Countries are 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:12.120 moving in one direction. India is dramatically expanding nuclear. The 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.760 United States and Britain are both investing in nuclear, yet 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.119 Australia continues to ban it. Opposition leader Angus Taylor says 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.599 it's time Australia started using one of its greatest natural advantages. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:32.880 Uranium, as I say, as I've always said, is a 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.080 huge part of our mineral production and experts in this 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.880 country and it should continue to be. And I'd like 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:43.280 to see some of our uranium used in Australia, which 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.080 it hasn't been, but. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.080 It should be in the future. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.280 And that's the question. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.680 If the rest of the world sees Australian uranium as 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:58.799 part of its future, why don't we. The Treasurer said 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.320 rents go up a couple of dollars, That was the 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.200 claim after the budget changed negative gearing and capital gains tax. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.480 Well tell that to renters. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.600 New data shows average house rents in Sydney jumped fifty 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.560 dollars a week in just three months. That's two six 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.720 hundred dollars more a year, and unit rents are up 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.880 thirty dollars a week. The average weekly house rent in 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.279 Sydney is now at a record eight hundred and fifty dollars, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.920 so much for just a couple of bucks. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.320 Tax changes we think will have a very modest impact 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:33.920 on rents, a couple of bucks a week. 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.120 The budget means more homes, and more homes puts downward 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:37.960 pressure on rents. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.000 So the Treasure is right about one thing. More homes 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.599 put downward pressure on rents. But that's the problem. We 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.640 don't have more homes, and when there are fewer homes, 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:54.479 rents goer. That's not complicated economics, and too often it 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.680 feels like the people making these decisions just aren't living 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:58.440 in the real world. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.160 The main reason rents have gone up in Sydney over 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.520 the last six months, I think, is because the market 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.279 has tightened. The vacancy rate this time last year was 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:13.520 about one point five percent according to SQM Research. It 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.280 fell during the JOm quarter to less than one point 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.480 four percent. And while that's a relatively small change when 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.800 the vacancy rate is under two percent. So property people 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:30.160 and others say the market power rests with landlords and 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.200 they set the rent at whatever the market will bear. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.760 So that's the market Australia was already facing. But here's 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.960 the crucial point. The budget didn't create the housing shortage, 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:47.800 it's making it worse. Aria Group economist and Flannery put 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:48.680 it simply. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.320 It's still too soon to see the impact on the 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.600 rental market now. I think that even without the budget, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.520 rents are on track to increase. With the budget, the 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.400 rate which rents are going to increase over the coming 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.160 years will be higher because of course it's going to 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.440 be less invested participation in the market than they otherwise 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:08.800 would be. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.640 And that's the concern. The rental market was already tight. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.560 The budget risks making it worse. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.960 The reality of the budget is that will put up rents. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.560 Investors are going to demand higher rents now to compensate 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.200 for the loss of negative gearing benefits capital gains benefits. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.840 So I think the impact from the budget on rents 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.960 is still to be seen. And I think it's said, 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.880 you know, it's obvious that rents are going to go 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.439 higher than what we've seen. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:42.280 Already because this isn't happening in isolation. Two hundred and 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.600 seventy five thousand new homes must be built each year 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.240 to reach the one point two million target the government 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.400 has set. Now, data shows in the twelve months to 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.520 March of this year, Australia's annual rate of home completions 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.520 was one hundred and seventy four thousand, so we aren't 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:02.120 even close. And compare that to the current annual rate 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.760 of migration, which sits at more than three hundred thousand. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.679 And all these people need somewhere to live. The government 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.880 refuses to address the supply equation, as if ignoring it 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.720 makes it less real. The Treasurer said rents would rise 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.880 by a couple of dollars and unless the government gets 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:26.959 serious about supply, migration, investment and construction, this rental crisis 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:34.040 is just the beginning. Well, let's head to Camber Now 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.280 for tonight's political headlines with Sky News political reporter Ruben Spargo. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.920 Good evening, India's Prime Minister and Anthony Alberizi are meeting 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.920 in Melbourne, Nearentromodi's visit is advancing a multi billion dollar 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.200 trade in Australian uranium to help meet India's growing energy needs. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.600 New Delhi is giving assurances that the fuel will not 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.960 be weaponized. The leaders are also expected to strengthen bilateral 0:09:59.000 --> 0:09:59.880 defense cooperate. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:05.320 Australia's relationship with India has never been more consequential than 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.080 it is today. Our partnership has never been stronger. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.200 Australia's Indian diaspora is tonight gathering at Marvel Stadium for 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.120 a glimpse of Narendramodi. More than six hundred calls failed 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:21.120 to connect to Triple zero during Telstra's nationwide outage. A 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.720 secondary technical issue caused delays across transport networks. Today Telstra 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.679 is promising a full investigation into the glitch. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.480 I want to again apologize for the disruption these issues 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.120 have cause to our customers and to. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.080 The broader community. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.360 We know how important it is to stay connected and 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.880 we take this responsibility very seriously. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.680 Telstra's chief executive is returning from a family holiday tomorrow morning. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.760 Well, the fallout from the nationwide outage continues to be 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.480 felt from small businesses to the hallways of Parliament House. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.600 Here to discuss this and plenty more news of the day. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:01.680 Sky News contributor Kalli kats and Bars and Federal Liberal 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.920 Member for Barker Tony Passen, welcome to you both. A 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.160 lot of blame shifting here from the government. There was 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:13.240 also that political spin with the attack on Sarah Henderson. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.160 She has called on the government to urgently deliver mobile 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:22.160 network reliability standards. Angus Taylor also spoke about the attack 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:23.480 on Senator Henderson. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:24.880 Here is the. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.040 Major response from the government to this was to send 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.480 out the spin merchants to get them onto the phone 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.800 to wherever they could. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.520 So Tony, I will start with you. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.720 Has the government offered enough transparency here and how can 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.439 we ensure that this won't happen again? 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.439 Nowhere near enough, Jamie. The reality here is this is 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.559 a government that he's always looking to blame someone else 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.600 or to run a distraction operation. This government needs to 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:01.079 stand up on behalf of Australians and say there weren't 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.280 a sufficient redundancy and resilience in the network. It needs 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.080 to reassure Australians that it is going to ensure that 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.720 the telcos, not just Telstra, but Telstra on this occasion, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.679 understands its obligations and will meet their obligations, particularly when 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.640 it comes to emergency situations. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:21.480 I live in. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.640 Rural, regional or remote Australia. Regional Australians have no faith 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.400 in the telcost because we live in the world in 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.680 which our mobile phones work occasionally. I think what we're 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.600 seeing now is that lack of resilience and redundancy is 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.960 playing out in metropolitan Australia and it should never be 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.600 playing out in an emergency situation. And the government on 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.240 behalf of all Australian should be standing up and holding 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:50.440 the telcos Telstra in particular, to account, and instead, I 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.440 think what they're trying to do is not be part 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.880 of the story and leave it for Telstra to be 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.400 kind of taking all the hits. Now, let's hear from 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.960 the government what think I'll do make telsher meet their 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.880 obligations and exceed them. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:12.320 Currently, another element of the Telstra outage really impacted regional 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.600 commuters and in Victoria they endured a second day of 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.160 canceled V line services. It certainly highlights the vulnerabilities that 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.840 we all rely on with the system. But you know, Caroly, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.840 Melbourne is on set to become the largest city in Australia. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.960 What's the government doing to strengthen the transport network to 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.000 ensure that these errors don't cause more chaos in the future. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.920 Sadly very little. Then, not a day goes by without 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.600 disruptions to the V line service anyway, So what has 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.000 happened is shocking, of course, the vline service didn't realize 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.040 that they put their faith in Telstra that their whole 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.199 network would grind to a halt because of course they 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.840 were reduced to having to use two ways, but they 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.840 couldn't work out how trains could enter and exit station safely. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.600 But it also shows you that this is a glaring 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:06.000 gap in what is being offered, not only in Victoria, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.720 but there were other cities around Australia that are affected. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.160 But the whole of Melbourne just ground to a halt. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.480 And as I said, the basic things, especially here in Victoria, 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.760 are just not being attended to. The population is on 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:25.600 track for six million people, yet the investment into infrastructure 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.880 in the last few years just hasn't been there and 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.320 the system couldn't cope anyway. And it is absolutely you know, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.640 it's buckling under the weight of all these frustrations. Commuters, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.360 no matter what their reason is, they're now one hundreds 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.960 of dollars out of pocket their time. We're just lucky 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.880 that nobody, as far as we know, has lost their 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.760 lives due to this outage. But what I would say 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.560 is that last September we saw the optus outage. This 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.640 time it was Telstra. This should be number one on 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.640 the Communication Minister's list to actually get it fixed and 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.800 ensure that nothing like that this ever happens again, because 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.760 it just exploses the vulnerability of how Australia is. We 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.480 really are becoming like a third world country. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.680 We really are, and it's incredibly distressing. But Tony, I 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.920 do want to get your thoughts around an alarming story 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.360 today that argues the Albanizi government has helped fuel organized 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:25.040 crime through the high tobacco Excise and by them abolishing 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.640 the Building and Construction Watchdog. And on top of that, 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.720 this report suggests that support for victorious suburban rail loop 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.240 risks entrenching CFMU linked corruption and warrants a royal commission. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:40.480 You know, you do have to look at the tobacco 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.800 walls that are playing out in Melbourne, Businesses going up 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.280 in flames and livelihoods destroyed. Do you think this is 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:48.680 a result of the excise? 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.520 Well, the exercise is clearly creating an incentive for organized 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.440 crime to involve itself in the illegal bacco trade. You 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.600 mentioned two areas where I think government should be doing 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.960 more in relation to dealing with organized crime and in 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:11.440 particular the corruption that is becoming endemic sadly, but you 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.920 can add to that, Jamie Ndis, As a former criminal lawyer, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:22.040 I know that there are organized crime groups involving themselves 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:25.600 in that scheme. So where you create the environment where 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.240 there are soft or easy targets or easy money to 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.000 be made, then you are going to see those opportunities 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.800 filled by organized crime. Now, we need to address this 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.760 as a nation, both at the state level in terms 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.200 of better enforcement, but we also need to remove the incentives. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.880 We need to find ways to make it hard for 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:55.960 organized crime to profit from their activities. And I'm really 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.000 struggling when I visit local supermarkets as I did today, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.880 to talk to store managers who tell me tony tobacco 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.960 sales are almost non existent, and we see on Facebook 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.480 that you can go to a car park and access 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:16.200 these illegal cigarettes. Now, if the local store manager can 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:21.160 see these Facebook posts, surely the relevant police authorities can 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.879 as well. We need to stamp this out, but we 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.240 also need to think again about the incentives that exist. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.760 And those incentives. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:33.800 Are created by the very significant difference between the taxes 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.600 paid on legitimate cigarettes and no tax at all, and 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.520 that environment is allowing organized crime to funish and they 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.800 are the other consequences that flow from that, the likes 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.760 of which you talked about, violence, property lost, the inability 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.720 of landlords to ensure properties, et cetera, et cetera. Not 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:57.800 to mention it's harming legitimate businesses who go about meeting 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:04.200 all the requirements, employ people and our part and parcel 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.800 of our community, and we want them to survive. All 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:07.800 that's being under my. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.280 Mind, Caroly, Before I let you go, I do want 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:14.399 to get your thoughts on a deeply disturbing summary of 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.760 the state of anti Semitism in Australia now. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:17.800 And this came from HELLEL. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:22.159 Newman, Israel's ambassador to Australia, and he said in The 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.480 Australian Today, throughout my twenty six year career as an 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.080 Israeli diplomat, I have never seen such levels of hatred 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.080 of Israel and of Jews as I experience and witness 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.040 here in Australia. And I just think, with what we've 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.720 seen on the streets of Australian cities, this is just 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.359 I look at them and I think, how on earth 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:44.200 did we get here? 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:49.520 How has Australia become this place? Well, look, we got here. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.600 I do have to say twenty twenty three when it happened. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.240 We all saw what happened on the steps of the 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.520 Sydney Opera House. Whether it was gas the Jews or 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.840 where are the Jews? It was no condemnation made by 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.119 the Prime Minister. Then there was the visit by Foreign 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:10.040 Minister Pennywong to Israel. She didn't even go to the site. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.360 That's unheard of for a foreign minister. Again no condemnation. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.600 Then we had the recognition of Palestine where Albanesi and 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.040 Pennywong decided to do that, flying in the face of 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.840 official advice as well. Trump said it, everybody did. It's 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.840 sort of like this green light thing that happens. Then 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.720 there was the Bondai massacre and again yes, this token thing. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.760 I commented at the time on Peter's show that it 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.520 was disgusting that Albanesi went to the Bondai pavilion holding 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.760 a bunch of flowers that look like they've been picked 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.320 up on the way from Aldi didn't even wear a 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.000 yalmuka or a kipper on his head as actually as 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.879 actually showing respect. And nothing has been condemned because it 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:55.400 sounds awful to say, but Jewish people have a massive 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.800 connection to the land. They're one of the oldest races 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.240 in history. And when we keep having the thing with 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.520 Gillian Siegel's anti Semitism. She's the committe you know, she's 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.200 the envoy. She's suggested all these things. They say they'll 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.440 be implemented, but there isn't. There's always a tacit thing. 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.119 Now there are teachers saying, oh, we can't teach the 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.320 Holocaust because we don't know how to do it with 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.639 the backdrop in the Middle East. I mean, Israel is 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.280 a Western democracy. It's all about fighting for the West, 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.200 and it's just disgraceful. And I can say the ABC 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.680 is a national broadcaster, yet again more mistakes. We've had 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.280 gunshots added because editors didn't know what to do. We've 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:38.600 had the incorrect reporting on George Pell they didn't know 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.639 with this testimony by Gavin Fang, they knew about it, 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.120 yet they still didn't correct it until the advice shown them. 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.480 We have a national broadcaster that actually barracks against Australia 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:56.040 and it's disgraceful and the true irony. I think Australia 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.520 was the second country in the world to recognize the 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.199 legitition democratic state of Israel. Those people that know their 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.119 history know that Israel has always been supportive of a 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.800 two state solution. But when you're dealing with terrorists, and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.080 when you're dealing with people that just want to wipe 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:18.040 a democratic country off the map, doesn't leave much chance. 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.440 And all it is it's about getting Western Sydney votes. 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.480 Well, Caroly and Tony, I will leave it there, thank 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:27.800 you all. 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.600 Right, after the break, we dig back into the landmark 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.680 uranium deal between Australia and India. What does that mean 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:39.159 for our nation and why it points out Labour's nuclear hypocrisy. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.679 Welcome back, It's great to have your company. Coming up, 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.200 we take a closer look at the state of Australia's 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.119 property market, with auction results continuing to drop off amid 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:58.200 warnings it's just the beginning. But now India is rapidly 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.159 expanding its nuclear industry and Australia has just signed a 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.920 major uranium export deal to help fuel that growth. Yet 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:10.439 here at home, nuclear power remains banned, despite Australians helping 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.920 to develop some of the world's most advanced reactor technology overseas. 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.240 At the same time, new figures show the Greens accepted 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:23.200 significant donations from unions, raising fresh questions about whether there's 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.280 one rule for the Greens and another for everyone else. 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.040 Let's bring in now Environment editor at The Australian Graham 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:31.160 Lloyd Graham. 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:31.840 Welcome. 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.960 Let's start with the uranium export deal with India and Australia. 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.320 Many countries around the world are moving towards nuclear energy, 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:45.520 but we are stuck on this renewable only path. Do 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:47.920 you think a deal like this will make the government 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:54.400 consider at least overturning the moratorium. 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.960 Britny Jamie Well, Unfortunately, Australia still seems to be stuck 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.159 in this ideological loop on the is shue of nuclear energy, 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.840 and the comments from Chris Byron at the top of 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.399 the show indicated that he's in Nomu to change his mind, 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.320 which is a big shame because if you look at 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.400 the substance of the India deal, it really grows out 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.440 of an agreement that was negotiated and signed by Tony 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.480 Abbott ten years ago. We've been sorting out all the 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.000 issues about not using uranium for military purposes and now 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:30.520 we're really backing their energy system with nuclear. They have 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:35.160 plans to increase their nuclear energy over the next twenty 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.679 years to the equivalent of one third of Australia's total 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:43.000 energy consumption in electricity, and it'll play the role that 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.439 Cole plays here. They'll have a lot of solar and 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.720 wind and other things, but the nuclear will always be 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:52.280 there to back it up. And surely there's a lesson 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.600 there for Australia. It's emissions free and it's what the 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:56.280 world's doming. 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:01.040 How important is the critical minerals of this deal? 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:08.320 Well, the deal we've done with India really solidifies if 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.879 you like our relationship as opposed to what's going on 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.760 with China. The world is at the moment really held 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:22.200 hostage by China in terms of supply of critical minerals. 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.760 The rest of the world, the United States, India, Australia, 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:30.400 Europe are trying to build an alternate supply. India has 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:34.639 really come on board with that non China capacity and 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:35.480 that's a good thing. 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:37.160 Graham. 0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:41.600 The Greens are always very vocal about political donations of 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.240 other parties, but I was just reading a report that 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:50.640 shows that they have received a large donation from unions themselves. 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.800