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Speaker 1: Good morning, Clintston Away with your latest news. A jury

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Speaker 1: has reached its verdict in Donald Trump's hush money criminal trial,

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Speaker 1: following more than eleven hours of deliberations, and I could

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Speaker 1: tell you that he's been found guilty of falsifying business records.

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Speaker 1: This news literally just through this second Donald becomes the

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Speaker 1: first former president in history to be found guilty felony.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now the implications we will learn very very shortly, but

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Speaker 1: it's now up to the judge in the case to

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Speaker 1: determine whether he serves jail time.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely just repeating his breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, former president who is about to fight an

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Speaker 1: election against Joe Biden, has just in the last few

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Speaker 1: seconds been found guilty. A jury has been deliberating for

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Speaker 1: near on twenty four hours, and we'll bring you the

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Speaker 1: latest from the Nova newsroom when we have it. Reaction

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Speaker 1: will be extraordinary. That has big ramifications.

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Speaker 4: Welcome morning, everybody, Welcome you Friday. What a crazy, oh

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Speaker 4: turn of events.

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Speaker 2: So, if you've just tuned in breaking news, it's ten

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Speaker 2: past five in the afternoon in New York and Stanners

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has just been found guilty.

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Speaker 1: So basically this stems from stormy Daniels and the falsification

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Speaker 1: of records business records. So he's been found guilty of

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Speaker 1: falsifying thirty four counts of business records basically stemming from

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Speaker 1: the use of campaign money to pay wow.

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Speaker 3: It will be in effect a hush money payment.

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Speaker 2: What happens now, So the jury found him guilty, but

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Speaker 2: we don't know what he's punished.

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Speaker 1: The jury will now be excused. It's wild because the

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Speaker 1: jury have been operating under anonymity.

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Speaker 3: I was about will be out for their blood.

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Speaker 1: Well, this could actually mobilize Trump's base, even more so

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Speaker 1: in America, given he's about to fight an election.

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Speaker 3: This could make them angrier.

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Speaker 1: This could make them you know, the passion over there

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Speaker 1: right now is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: But regardless, so he's been found guilty. He could go

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Speaker 2: to prison. There's there's a big chance he could go

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Speaker 2: to prison. He may not. But even though he's been

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Speaker 2: found guilty, could he still run for the presidents.

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Speaker 3: He could run for the presidency? Prompt Jason. But now

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Speaker 3: the Biden camp right now will.

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Speaker 1: Be thinking this is sort of this could be a win,

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Speaker 1: but it also could be a loss because, as I say,

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Speaker 1: it could mobilize people.

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Speaker 3: We could be like I'm still voting for him. Imagine

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Speaker 3: him doing campaign ads from jail. Honestly, that country has

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Speaker 3: gone ship.

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Speaker 2: No, that's wild.

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Speaker 4: We'll keep you updated throughout the morning. Any when do

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Speaker 4: we find out about the sentencing.

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Speaker 1: We'll get reaction first and foremost from outside the court.

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Speaker 1: But i'd imagine to be today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, insane.

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Speaker 1: Let's get some reaction from the States because this is

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Speaker 1: a very fast move moving breaking news story. Laura Schwartz

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Speaker 1: a great made of mind. She is a contributor for

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Speaker 1: the Weekend Today Show. She's just been on the Today Show.

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Speaker 1: She used to work in the Clinton administry, and she

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Speaker 1: joins us now, Laura, good morning, Thanks you, Tom and

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Speaker 1: I You're really busy.

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Speaker 3: Great to speak to you. So this is wild.

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Speaker 1: Just set the saying, what's the reaction being like olbeit

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Speaker 1: in the last ten minutes.

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Speaker 5: Well, it is wild. And here's the situation. The Trump

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Speaker 5: supporters are just you know, battle hatches down. They are

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Speaker 5: ready to go. This is just ingratiating them more into Trump.

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Speaker 5: Trump's message that this is a witch hunt, that this

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Speaker 5: is Biden constructed, really plays well with his base. They

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Speaker 5: are solid and will become even tighter because of this.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats are just long over Donald Trump. And even

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Speaker 5: though they're not huge fans of Biden, they're not voting

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Speaker 5: for Trump. They will vote for Biden. Now, it's all

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Speaker 5: about this liver. Politics is a game of addition, not subtraction.

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Speaker 3: So will this helped.

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Speaker 5: Trump with the undecided, the independence, the suburban moms, or

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Speaker 5: will and help Biden? One of them has to add

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Speaker 5: to their votes out right now in the states that

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Speaker 5: matter that could decide a selection. It just might kills

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Speaker 5: it to Bien. Can I ask, minding the world debt

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Speaker 5: of what trumps of Trump president? He could be?

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Speaker 3: Like? Can I ask? Because this is what I don't understand.

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Speaker 4: Rot he could face a maximum jail time of four years,

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Speaker 4: right if he was found if he was sentenced to

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Speaker 4: four years jail, can he still run to become the

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Speaker 3: And then can he podon himself?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: The president cannot pardon a state felony, which this is,

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Speaker 5: so he cannot pardon himself when it comes to this charge.

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Speaker 5: Right as far as serving time in prison, one prison

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Speaker 5: time is unlikely. This man is trackable, traceable for the president.

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Speaker 5: They'll say he's not a harmed at society, but he

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Speaker 5: needs to pay a debt in another way community service

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Speaker 5: high fine, but enough.

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Speaker 3: I want I'm doing my lords, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: You know he's going to feel this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So when will we When will when will he

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Speaker 2: be sentenced? When will we find that out? Because I

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Speaker 2: guess that's what everyone's waiting for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is interesting. Sentencing has been set for

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Speaker 5: July eleven, oh, the mid July. And what's really interesting

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Speaker 5: about that is that's just three days before the Republican

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Speaker 5: four days before the Republican National Convention begins to watch fifteenth.

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Speaker 5: So he's not only going into his nominating convention as

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Speaker 5: a convicted felon, which again is riling up as say

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Speaker 5: they don't care, but he's going to go in with

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Speaker 5: some sort of sentence having been sent handed down and

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Speaker 5: his lawyers asked for mid July and they got it.

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Speaker 1: You talk about his base, and this is where it

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Speaker 1: gets a little scary, because we saw the insurrection on

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Speaker 1: Gen six just before Biden was to be sworn in

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Speaker 1: as president.

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Speaker 3: What will that bace? What is that base capable of?

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Speaker 1: And are we seeing sort of elements of that sort

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Speaker 1: of manifest itself right now.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: I really think that it's good that you brought that up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, right now, we have not seen the kind

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Speaker 5: of support railing face to face outside the courthouse that

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Speaker 5: we once thought would be there every day of this trial,

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Speaker 5: that I think Donald Trump thought would be there every

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Speaker 5: day of this trial.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: The New York Police are ready to sut down Lower

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Speaker 5: Manhattan no more. They haven't had to do that. But

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Speaker 5: you know, even looking ahead, Trump is already indicated to

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Speaker 5: the base that if he doesn't win, this election is rigged.

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Speaker 5: And the last time they burned the capitol, So what

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Speaker 5: would it be this time? Would it be state capital?

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Speaker 2: Laurd Just before we let you go, what happens to

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump? Now? Does he just get in his car

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Speaker 2: and go home or what? What's he ye?

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Speaker 5: Home? Yeah, he goes home and his attorneys try to

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Speaker 5: negotiate with the DA's office about a sentence. They'll have

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Speaker 5: those conversations, but it's all up to that judge, Judge Marshaun,

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Speaker 5: who people from both sides of the aisle have been

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Speaker 5: crazy and is running a real even courtroom. And he

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Speaker 5: also just mentioned the jurors can speak out if they

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Speaker 5: want they.

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Speaker 3: I would not be doing anonymous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be Yeah, no gos I was in BALI

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Speaker 4: always in that juror.

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Speaker 1: Hey Laura, we love watching you on the Telly here

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Speaker 1: in Australia. You do such a great job. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making time for us.

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Speaker 2: On No.

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Speaker 5: One hundred, Hey, I'll be back anytime, Lauren Lauren wake.

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Speaker 2: Up feeling Good on Number one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Lauren on Socials,