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Speaker 1: the top me. It's the year project Craig Anthony Harper.

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Speaker 1: There's a cast of thousands today because the very hilarious Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm going to have to get my

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Speaker 1: side stitched after this episode because Patrick did a funny,

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Speaker 1: the smartest and the best looking person on the call,

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Speaker 1: Hi Christian, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good good?

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Speaker 1: How are you mate? How did you How did you

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Speaker 1: feel when your boss that balding bloke Uncle Fester in

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Speaker 1: the world's oldest McDonald's worker. Also, how did you feel

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Speaker 1: it because he didn't. I was going to say, fucking

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Speaker 1: do it, but I won't say that because you're fifteen

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Speaker 1: and I know you've never sworn or heard swearing. How

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Speaker 2: I was heart broken, seriously, all that hard work took

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, he does that. Yeah, it is. It's disgraceful.

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Speaker 1: There's a pattern of this over the years. He steals

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Speaker 2: I'm in your nine.

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Speaker 1: Now what's your job? And I use that term loosely

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Speaker 2: Well, first of working, it was helping him set up

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Speaker 1: Well, gorgeous and what do you what do you want

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Speaker 1: to what do you want to do? When you're like,

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Speaker 1: why are you doing this? So? Are you a nerdy

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What space do you want to work in? When you

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Speaker 2: I'm still really not sure, to be honest, because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly smarter than the rest of us. Well, mate,

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Speaker 3: It's a bit like what Tiff does for you, Craig.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate. So oh that was so that was a

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Speaker 3: To be here for five minutes? Someone had to fill

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Speaker 1: Hello Cookie, Hello, Hello Harps. Now this is irrelevant to

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Speaker 1: I did this with you last year.

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Speaker 3: the number seventy backwards as well. That's the banner I

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Speaker 1: I'm Craig Anthony, half a Halper, half a Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: should know my name now it's been a while. Patrick,

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Speaker 1: James Bonello, Tiffany and Cook. This happens about once a fortnite.

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Speaker 1: If you know what we do, why are you back?

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Speaker 1: You must be a glutton for punishment. Loosely, we try

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Speaker 1: if you want to stick around for that, you've been warned. Tiff.

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Speaker 1: How's your week been. I've been away. I've been inspiring

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Speaker 4: I was having an existential crisis. I was don on

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Speaker 3: While he's doing that, Tiff, do you find though? In

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Speaker 4: I am a sad sad season effective disorder. I am

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Speaker 3: What have you been up to, son, I've got some

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Speaker 1: You could call it, you could call it the Me Project.

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Speaker 1: So how long are you going for? I wish I

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Speaker 3: Well, how long do you want me to go for?

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Speaker 1: But well I don't want you. Well, you know, if

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well you'll come back all zen and stuff. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: I've got an Everest story. How's that for a segment?

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Speaker 3: You can. In fact, I think my drone has a

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Speaker 1: Then it's got to be flown to old Mate in

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Speaker 3: it must be financially, we'll think about it. If you've

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Speaker 1: Potentially order I'd order it from your joint.

438
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Speaker 3: I know you would, I know you would. Yeah, you

439
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 3: know what, but seriously, though, you're talking about a payload

440
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: of a kilo. What if someone's sick with the flu

441
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: or covid can't get to the chemist. Now see, in

442
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: those instances that would be so useful. A you can

443
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 3: get your medication really quickly and you're in firm if

444
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, for your folks. You know, it gets hard

445
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: for people to drive, or to get outdoors, or it's

446
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: whatever the conditions are. It's a really hot day. You know,

447
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: there's any number of scenarios where I could see that

448
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: the drones would be really useful. And also, because you've

449
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: got no traffic to contend with, what might be a

450
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: twenty minute drive could be seven minutes by drone straight

451
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: to your place. My drone goes about seventy five kilometers

452
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: and our direct line of sight, so that is pretty quick.

453
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: And if you're in a built up area, so you know,

454
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Speaker 3: and you're looking at a footprint of maybe ten kilometers,

455
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Speaker 3: then then it's not going to take you very long

456
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Speaker 3: to get from A to B.

457
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Speaker 1: It's buddy, I mean alsill in s aside the rate

458
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Speaker 1: at which things are evolving and changing with technology and

459
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: everything from chat, GPT to drones to you make a

460
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: really good point, especially you know, in remote locations where

461
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: people can't you know, like if somebody needs insulin in

462
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: a hurry and they live one hundred kilometers from the

463
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Speaker 1: nearest pharmacy or you know, yeah, there are some potentially

464
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Speaker 1: amazing applications and benefits just quickly before we jump into

465
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Speaker 1: your list. Also, I don't know if you saw this

466
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: on the news or if you saw it Tiff, but

467
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: an Australian dude invented a titanium heart, like a fully

468
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: functional operational heart replacement. It's the size of a heart.

469
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: You're typing, Patrick's typing, so, Tiff, And so they just

470
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: transplanted or they just put one into the first patient

471
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: in the States, and it's like this guy's been building

472
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: it for a long time and it works. So the

473
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Speaker 1: intention at the moment is that they will kind of

474
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Speaker 1: be a stop gap while somebody is waiting for a heart,

475
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Speaker 1: a human heart. But they believe that they're going to

476
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Speaker 1: be good enough in the not too distant future to

477
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: just replace a human heart. And that's what people will

478
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Speaker 1: have one of those. So no rejection, No, you know,

479
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: there's no different genetic tissue that the body's going to

480
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: adapt to. And I just looked at it and it's small.

481
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the size of your fist. If that,

482
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, imagine. You know, people are

483
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: going to have diseased hearts in the not too distant future.

484
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: They're going to go in, they're going to get a

485
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Speaker 1: new heart, titanium heart put in and w out in

486
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Speaker 1: a few days and just carry on bloody amazing.

487
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Speaker 3: So the titanium heart, So titanium, I guess, is a

488
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Speaker 3: metal that doesn't get rejected by the body.

489
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Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things. And it's also

490
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Speaker 1: very light, it's all. You don't want seven pounds of

491
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: steel in your chest. It gets a bit rusty. We

492
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: should have got the galvanized one.

493
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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I got testicles.

494
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: No, wait a minute, Yeah, I know, it's I mean

495
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: everything and I saw it dode the other day and

496
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,959
Speaker 1: then I'll shut up. So here is a oh gee.

497
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if his paraplegic or a quadriplegic, but

498
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: he was wearing one of those suits that you've told

499
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Speaker 1: us about, like the exoskeleton that people strap themselves into

500
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: or get strapped into. And he was in inverted commas

501
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: walking and he's a paraplegic or a quiet I can't

502
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: remember my bad but the smile on his face, like

503
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: because he wasn't in a chair, he was actually upright.

504
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: He was six foot tall. He was walking carrying the

505
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: carrying the Olympic torch. I went, how fucking great is that?

506
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Imagine when that's commonplace.

507
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting. Just as a segue to that heart,

508
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: the titanium heart. I think one of the things that

509
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: I've kind of looked into over the years that Rudy

510
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: excites me is the notion of growing a heart from

511
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Speaker 3: your own stem cells, So being able to take donor

512
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Speaker 3: cells and then grow and culture a heart or cardiac tissue.

513
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: I know they can culture cardiac tissue at the moment,

514
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Speaker 3: so that could poventually be used for grafts and stuff

515
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: like that. But if you could grow another heart, grow

516
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: your own heart, that that would blow my mind. And

517
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: of course that means the zero tissue rejection, so that yeah,

518
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: pretty epic.

519
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, Professor Sharon Riccardo, who we've had on this show

520
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: numerous times, she's the head of biomedicine at Melbourne. Sorry,

521
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: fucking now, at my uni, Monash, I'm sorry, monash, admonish

522
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: me admonash me And see what I did there? She's

523
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: they do shit like grow ears on the back of

524
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: rats and all of that human human ears. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

525
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: have a look at that tip.

526
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Speaker 5: Google that here on the back of a rat where

527
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 5: they actually ah yeah yeah, ah yeah, but they're growing

528
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: tissue and skin and developing cells and organs.

529
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Speaker 1: And you're right, Patrick, it ain't it ain't that far away.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the exciting thing that I'm thinking of, because

531
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Speaker 3: not everybody has an identical twin brother they can use

532
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: for spare parts. Yeah, that you think of as spare parts.

533
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's a good idea, though. Tip did you

534
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: find the rat on the ear on the rat?

535
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,239
Speaker 4: I don't think, I know, I can't. I don't want

536
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: to look at it. I'm a bit bothered by the

537
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 4: sacrificial animals just so that the human race can fucking Now,

538
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: I'm not being on it.

539
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: Well that okay, Oh, so many things I can say,

540
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: but I'll get in trouble either way. So I'm going

541
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: to say I agree with you. It's fucking horrible. Tip Patrick,

542
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: tell us about China's military style. I think this is

543
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: something I want for Christmas. I know, you know, a

544
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: fairy style electric off roader complete with guns.

545
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not real guns. What they've done is if

546
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: you look at the inside of the cabin where the

547
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: handle is to open the door, they've designed it to

548
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: look like a gun. This is an electric car that's

549
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: been released in China. It's called the Don Thing m

550
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Speaker 3: hero mng she nine one seven. That's a mouthful in that. Wow,

551
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: the inside of the door. So I did. I did

552
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Speaker 3: include the picture just for you, Craigo.

553
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see it. It looks awesome. I actually

554
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: think that's not an ugly That's not an ugly car,

555
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: by the way, because it looks like your car. That's

556
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: why you're saying it's not ugly. No, it doesn't look

557
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: anything like my car.

558
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: A little bit. Your car's a bit tanky. You could

559
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: put a turret on the top of your.

560
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: Bar just because it's an SUV, My fucking l you

561
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: know nothing cars.

562
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: Where is in the s is a tif don't you reckon?

563
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: Put a turret on top of the crowd.

564
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Nobody can see my car or this car, so move on.

565
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: Just imagine a Sherman tank and that's all with four

566
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: wheels instead of those tractor things.

567
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: So the bottom line is they've got door handles inside

568
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: that look like a pistol.

569
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Colt revolver. I think it is what they've

570
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: designed for. Think they are coming out to Australia. There's

571
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Speaker 3: a plan to bring them out because there's a lot

572
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: more electric cars coming out to Australia. They're giving Tesla

573
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: a run for their money at the moment.

574
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot yeah byd one of the big

575
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Chinese brands that are just byd GWM. There's a whole,

576
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: a whole lot. One in seven might be more now

577
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: one in seven cars being sold in Australia at the

578
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: minute Chinese.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so there you go. But no, I just

580
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: thought you'd be interested because it just looked like such

581
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: a big boys toy, isn't it.

582
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I love big boys toys. All right, tell

583
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: us you steer the ship every time, I say every

584
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: time I pick one of your things that you probably didn't, right,

585
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Christian probably did this list. You've probably got no idea

586
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: what none of these talking points are about.

587
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: So no, IOK. There is one that I because I

588
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: live in a rural town. I was driving to Ballarato,

589
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: driving west of Melbourne and there's a spot just out

590
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: of the town that I live in where for five

591
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: or ten minutes we've got absolutely zero phone coverage. It's

592
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: only an hour and ten minutes out of Melbourne, and

593
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot of black spots around Melbourne, a lot

594
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: of black spots around a lot of areas. And with

595
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: thirty nine million mobile phone accounts across Australia, this is

596
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: what it's estimated. Interestingly, mobile phone services are not at

597
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: this stage classified as essential, so there's a really big

598
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Speaker 3: push by the Telecommunications ombudsman to change to make mobile

599
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: phones and the access to an essential service like electricity,

600
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: like gas, like water, that sort of stuff. So, believe

601
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Speaker 3: it or not, it's not an essential service. And we

602
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: know that there have been outages. You know when Optus

603
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: went down last year and there was a recent situation

604
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Speaker 3: where a small rural town which was connected by Telstra

605
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: went down and they were without any communication, without any

606
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: ability to sell anything at the shops because they needed

607
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: connectivity there. So it does put you. It was Port

608
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: Dennis and the EGO three hundred and fifty three kilometers

609
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: away from Perth. North of Perth, But wow, I would

610
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Speaker 3: have thought phones would have been an essential service, wouldn't you?

611
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: Or is it just me?

612
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean for a lot of people, that's

613
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: life and death if you can't. I mean really, it's

614
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: just being able to connect with somebody when you need to.

615
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: And yeah, I would have thought that would have fallen

616
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: under the banner of essential services. Just before you move on,

617
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I don't even know what

618
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: it was, but I do know that the world came

619
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: to a temporary halt the other day because something crashed.

620
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't know enough because I was busy doing other

621
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: things and I should be more interested, But I know

622
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: that the bits of the airport shut down, flights were canceled.

623
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you know what happened and what was that about.

624
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: There's a piece of high end anti virus software effectively

625
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: security software, called crowd Strike and its powers a lot

626
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: of the Microsoft Windows operating system at the higher end.

627
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: And what they did was they pushed out an update,

628
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: but it gave the blue screen of death. We're all,

629
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: permission familiar with the term of the blue screen of death.

630
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: You know your computer crashes and all you get is

631
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: a blue screen. Well, effectively did that and it was

632
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: so I mean, I go, I'm talking time reference, but

633
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: it was a week away, a week previously our time.

634
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: But effectively, suddenly all these computers that we're using this

635
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: service crowd strike for their security suddenly had did an

636
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: auto update and it basically bricked all of the machines.

637
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: And that's another term we use, so if something breaks

638
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: and you can't use it anymore, it's called bricking it.

639
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: So they all got bricked, and it was it was

640
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: pretty pretty massive. And now the financial implications to business,

641
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: it's estimated just in Australia this outage could surpass a

642
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: billion dollars of lost revenue because it's not just that

643
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: one night. It's kind of pushed out into you know,

644
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: further as well. But it also kind of makes us

645
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: really think about how reliant so many organizations were on

646
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: one single piece of software. Made by this one manufacturer,

647
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: and you know, it kind of makes us reflect on

648
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: how much, you know, we do rely I made of

649
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: mine works at the airport and they are handwriting slips,

650
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, boarding slips. Wow, they had no way to

651
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: print them, no way to know in our flights were

652
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: just canceled anyway. But all about Craigo, it does make

653
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: you realize, mate, how much or how little control perhaps

654
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: we have with some things. You know, my mum, God

655
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: bless her.

656
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: If you know my mom, don't tell her I said this,

657
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: But in the last week I've had to kind of

658
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: take the reins of mum and Dad's bills, right, because

659
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, Mary can't pay with a check anymore, she

660
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: can't pay with cash anymore, she can't drive down to

661
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: wherever and just pay the whatever because everything has to

662
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: And she goes in they go, oh, I no, you

663
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: can't do that, missus harp. You've got to pay it electronically,

664
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: and she goes, I don't know how to do that,

665
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and they go, oh, well next, you know, and so

666
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: my poor mum, God bles. So the last week or

667
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: so it's just been you know, where Thank God that

668
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: that not that she's got me, but thank God that

669
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: she's got a person in her life that she implicitly

670
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: trusts that she now doesn't have to, you know, because

671
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: you think about its power and it's electricity, and it's

672
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: regio on their two cars, and insurance on the house

673
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: and this and that and gas and you know, incidentals

674
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: and and it's so stressful for her. And then you know,

675
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: she went up to Telstra and she couldn't even understand

676
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: what they were talking about, Like she didn't understand the

677
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: man who is which I'm not mad at him, but

678
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: here's this eight nearly eighty five year old with shit

679
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: hearing who does not understand any part of technology. She

680
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: can't actually go to tel Stra and have a conversation

681
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: and know what's going on because no one speaks her language.

682
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I'm thinking, and all the millions

683
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: of people who are seventy seventy five eighty, I don't

684
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: know how your dad is, Tiff, But fucking hell, Ron

685
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: and Mary. If not, if they didn't have me or

686
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: someone like me, I literally don't know how they would exist.

687
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: You know, what about you, Tiff?

688
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad's pretty good with it, but I don't know.

689
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: I think it's it's hard. I always worry about mister

690
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: Ife he can get into again because even I get

691
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: messages about stuff, and you don't know what's legit and

692
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: what's not. You get taken on a bum steer real quick,

693
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: well away.

694
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: Maybe Patrick, you can come up with a solution, because

695
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: it's not like it's only about twenty people. There's millions

696
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: of people in that boat.

697
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: My dad's about turn eighty nine this year. And if

698
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't that my brother lived close by, a lot

699
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: of that tech sport is going on there and the

700
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 3: phone calls. You know, I can't log into Netflix anymore,

701
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: the basic stuff. We take it for granted. And you know,

702
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: I was talking to one of our listeners during on Friday,

703
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: Mark Ko. He runs a training business and he travels

704
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: all over Western Australia and all over the shop and

705
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, he was just needing to set up emails

706
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: on a Mac and I don't use a Mac computer.

707
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: And the trouble that I had navigating a map to

708
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: get it set up was crazy. So you know, when

709
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 3: someone who feels they're pretty tech savvy can't do something

710
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: yes and gets frustrated by it, And eventually I had

711
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: to get one of my mates to help me sort

712
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: out the problem. It was a more high end issue

713
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: in terms of security because Max do have a higher

714
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: level I guess of security when it comes to trying

715
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: to do things that they don't want you to do.

716
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: You know, so sharing screens. If I do meeting and

717
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to share a screen with a Mac, it's harder.

718
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: You've got to have more security levels to allow you

719
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: to do that, which is not a bad thing, but

720
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: it can be a frustration when you're just trying to

721
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: help someone out at the other end. But I get it,

722
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: and I know why people like the Mac ecosystem. It's

723
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: funny because one of the things I actually wanted to

724
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: chat about in the show was a really basic thing

725
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: that comes up so much. Because phones are so expensive

726
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: and you want to go out and buy an upgrade

727
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 3: to your phone, one of the ways you can save

728
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: money is not go for the high end memory storage,

729
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: so you get a standard level phone and then quite often,

730
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: and I know they do this with iPhones, you can

731
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: go for a higher storage capacity. And if you can

732
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: save yourself three or four hundred bucks, then why would

733
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: you you get exactly the same phone, same camera or

734
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: the feature except limited storage. But it's that point at

735
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: which your storage becomes full and you can't get straw

736
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: apps and suddenly you haven't got enough room for photos.

737
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: And then why was I such a tied? No, not

738
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: really because it's expensive, But what do you do? And

739
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: so I thought, it's not a bad thing to have

740
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: a chat about this because I've had this happen on

741
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: my Android phone. It doesn't matter what sort of phone.

742
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: But what do you do when your phone storage is

743
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: almost full? And how do you get around it? And

744
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: it's there are actually some things you can do. Because

745
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I have screen after

746
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 3: screen after screen after screen of apps on my phone.

747
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: I go a bit crazy and I hear about a

748
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: new app and I install it and play around with it.

749
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 3: The reality of it is that's probably one of the

750
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: first things you can do is look at your apps.

751
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: And the good thing is Android phones do it, and

752
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure iPhones do as well. They let you

753
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: know which apps you use the most. You know, you

754
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: get a bit more, you know, a bit more cutthroat,

755
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: and say right, get rid of the apps. The other

756
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: thing is backing up your stuff to the cloud. Photos,

757
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: video files are enormous. The great thing about phones now

758
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: is they have you know, four K video, which means

759
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: you can take stunning video, but that means you've also

760
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: got massive files. So that's another thing you can do

761
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: is you just back all this stuff up to the

762
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: crack cloud and it's not expensive. You know, Google offers

763
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: those services, you know Apple offers those services, and you

764
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: get it off the phone onto the cloud, and then

765
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: you know it's not encumbering your phone. So delete apps

766
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: and games. There are two things that will take up

767
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: so much storage. If you don't need it, get rid

768
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: of it. And then there's things like, as I said, videos,

769
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: If you can move the videos onto the cloud and

770
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: back those up, that'll absolutely free stacks of space off

771
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: your phone.

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00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: You know what else you can do, You can delete

773
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: all the other podcasts that you subscribe to that you

774
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: don't listen to, except the You Project and Patrick's upcoming,

775
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: The Me Project and of course Roll with the Punch is.

776
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Of course was going to say no, but it's funny

777
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: because seriously, I have subscribed to stuff that I never

778
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: listened to, and then I go and I look, I go, oh,

779
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: I've got seventy four downloaded episodes of the x y

780
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: Z projects. So that's all just downloaded into my phone

781
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: that I've never listened to. And then I just I

782
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: go and I just delete all of that. I look

783
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: at all of that and even you know, books and

784
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: stuff that I've downloaded, I that I listened to two

785
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: years ago, and it's like a I've got you know,

786
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: everyone's going to make fun of me.

787
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: Right.

788
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: I downloaded the Bible because it came up it was

789
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: on special for nine to ninety five. I'm like, awesome,

790
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: but it's eighty four hours.

791
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: He knew in the Old Testament, who read it, who

792
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: reads the who narrates?

793
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: It's read by multiple people?

794
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: Right?

795
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this is a bargain. And then

796
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, how much fucking space does his take? And

797
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: God went, don't talk like that about my book. I went, sorry, Lord,

798
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Sorry Lord. But it is quite hefty, isn't it. Just

799
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: before we move on, just jumping back one topic, I just.

800
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: Wanted to do the voiceover for the Bible because I'd

801
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: be whispering other stuff, you know, the ear worth.

802
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: You'd be going in the middle of it, Diddy. Really

803
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I'd stay it for Lord or someone else. Yeah, yeah,

804
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: and then Brian said to Jesus, Jesus, what are you doing?

805
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: But it hasn't got all the begots in the gats

806
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff, because you could wipe

807
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: that First Testament out. That's bullshit anyway.

808
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: There's no such thing called the First Testament, Patrick, the

809
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: first bit, the first bit, it's all crap.

810
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: Come on, it's the bigotting in beginning and all that

811
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. No one knows, No one cares.

812
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, well a few people care, just not you. And

813
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: one day when your pants are on fire literally and

814
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: the devil's pulling it down into eternal damnation by your ankles,

815
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: you're going to be sorry.

816
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: And I'm having to mates just ask me very harp.

817
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: I was going to say, just last and then I'll

818
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: jump off it back to you know, people who don't

819
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: know how to use tech well and all that. I

820
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be. Like for my mum,

821
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: it's a real mental health issue. It's literally the biggest

822
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: cause of anxiety in her life at the moment, is

823
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: just this worry that she has about bills and about

824
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: payment and about not being able to have conversations. And

825
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: I know we've kind of covered it, but I think

826
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: there's a you know, I was going to say opportunity.

827
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't mean a commercial opportunity, but a need there

828
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: for people to be able to help older people with

829
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: this onslaught of technology that's not going away because I

830
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: think one of the consequences, Yeah, maybe it makes life

831
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: more efficient, maybe, but for some people it actually makes

832
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: it harder.

833
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: You know.

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: I just make a suggestion. If anybody's worried about their security,

835
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 3: there's a fantastic government website. You just need to google

836
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 3: scam Watch. It's got a lot of statistics, but also

837
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: a lot of support information on there. And what I

838
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: guess for a lot of people, don't you know, it's

839
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: easy not to know that this stuff's out there, and

840
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: you get access, you can get useful information. And I

841
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: think we made this reco I made this recommendation a

842
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: little while ago. If you can't walk into your bank

843
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: and get support from a teller or the manager, go

844
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: to another bank. Vote with your feet. You know, there

845
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: are still customer service banks that offer customer service. There

846
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: are still support out there. If you don't get the support,

847
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: if you don't get the service that you want, then

848
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: go somewhere else. I think that's one of the things

849
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: that we as consumers sometimes forget. We wear this, we

850
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: wear the you know, and look overseas you know, chat

851
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: services for support. You know, you ring up and first

852
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: you've got to get through the artificial intelligence firewall, and

853
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: then you get put through to a data center somewhere

854
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: in another part of the planet, which is and if

855
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: you get a good person, it can be great. But

856
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: if you don't get a person who's you know, who's

857
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: struggling to understand, and that can be really frustrating as well.

858
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: But look for the company that has the local based

859
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: support center. Look for the company that can support you

860
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: that you can walk into, you know, go to your

861
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: local you know, Telstra office or wherever it happens to be.

862
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Not pushing any brand in particular. But I think that

863
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: we as consumers more powerful than we give ourselves credit for.

864
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I agree, tell us how I can make extra money

865
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: with chat GPT, because chat GPT is my second best friend,

866
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: So let's go.

867
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: I like the idea of using chat GTP prompts. So

868
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: if you put a prompt into chat GPT, and one

869
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: of them might be how do I make passive income

870
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: or how can I make extra money or you know,

871
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 3: what can I do as a side gig. And it's

872
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: interesting that you know, when you're drawing on all this

873
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: information that it is, it tends to be what I

874
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: mean by impartial. It doesn't know you per se, it's

875
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: getting there. But there's lots of different things they talk about.

876
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: I mean, content creation obviously is a big thing. And

877
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: the thing is AI and chat GPT can help create

878
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: high quality content quickly. And it doesn't mean that you

879
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: just use all the information it spits out at you.

880
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: You create, curate that, or you rewrite that. But it

881
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: can help get you off, you know, get you off

882
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: to a good start, you know, automated customer service. There's

883
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: things like social media management, you know, affiliate marketing. You know,

884
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: if you if you write a review about something and

885
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: then you have an affiliate So say, for example, you

886
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: decide you want to write a review about a projector

887
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: or you want to write a review about a phone,

888
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: then you can get affiliate links where if you refer that.

889
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: So if you publish an article, say this is really great,

890
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: they click on the link they want to buy it. Well,

891
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: you get a kickback from doing that as well. So

892
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 3: this has all come out of chat GPT. You know,

893
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: subscription based services tip for example, you know you do

894
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: a lot of one on ones when it comes to

895
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: your training, but you know, how many of those could

896
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: you do as a video sign up where someone does

897
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: a one on one with you and then they do

898
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: supplemental videos to help them through until their next session,

899
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: So that could be subscription based. I think about that

900
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: with my tai chi So you know I do do

901
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: to tai chi classes one on one, but I also

902
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: have an onlin in sight that people can go to

903
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: and it's free, but they can do classes in between

904
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 3: classes just to keep them refreshed on what they're learning.

905
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: So there's lots of that sort of stuff. So I

906
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: think getting creative with using AI and in this case

907
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: we're talking about chat chept and asking those questions because

908
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: it is an amazing resource that is more than just

909
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: doing a Google search. Me let you crag go so

910
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: you know, when you jump in and you're able to

911
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: get that sort of in chuit information and it remembers

912
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: what you've asked it previously, that can be helpful as well.

913
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love it because it calls me

914
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: he goes Hi, Craig. Good question. It compliments me, makes

915
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: me feel good. All I say, thanks that Dan, it

916
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: goes You're welcome. Is there anything else I can help

917
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: you with? I go, nah, bro, take it easy, put

918
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: your electronic feed up, just kick back. I'll be back later.

919
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: You are really worried about those you know, AI overlords,

920
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: aren't you? You're getting in good right now?

921
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

922
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I Do you know what? There's a

923
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: show on Netflix now. I can't say if it's any

924
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: good or not on an episode and a half in everyone.

925
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's on Apple TV. It's called Sunny and

926
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: it's about just quickly. It's about this software develop a

927
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: dude who his wife thinks he does another job, but

928
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He basically develops robots. This is my own

929
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: high end, super super smart, evolved robots. He dies a

930
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. He dies in the first episode. And then

931
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: this robot shows up and it's been programmed to kind

932
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: of meet her needs. And I'm looking at this and

933
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is not that far away, and just

934
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: the you know, like when somebody talks and when the like,

935
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: you have this awareness that this is not real. But

936
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: to me, it's almost like you know, when you're sitting

937
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: and you're talking to another human, like a real human

938
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: in a real conversation, but you know that what they're

939
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: saying is more role a, more persona than person right.

940
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: You know you kind of got the public version of them,

941
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: not the real, deep, vulnerable you know, like expose them. Right,

942
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that's AI sometimes, like you're talking to

943
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not human intelligence, but there's a kind of intelligence.

944
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: We'll call it, I don't know, artificial, but there's you know,

945
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: it's like it is not easy. I mean, it is

946
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: not hard to get swept up in an interaction and

947
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: not forget that it's a robot, but still have a

948
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: similar experience to an exchange with a person.

949
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: For me, anyway, people form actual relationships with AI, and

950
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: I'm talking intimate relationships because if it knows about you,

951
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: knows the things, and you impart that information the personal

952
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: stuff in your life. If you have a bit of

953
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: a down date, it's like, oh, you know, you went

954
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: that good yesterday. You obviously were feeling a bit down.

955
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: You know, when it can relate to that, and it's

956
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: the perfect what do you think about it? It's the

957
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: perfect perfect empathy because it remembers everything. You know, if

958
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: I say to you, oh, mate, you know, has things going,

959
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 3: and I forget to ask you how your mum and

960
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: dad are, and I forget that you've driven out, you know,

961
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: what you do every weekend? Then you know, it's nice

962
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: when people remember those personal things. But we're all fallible

963
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: and sometimes we don't. So in that dialogue that we're having,

964
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: if you had that AI intelligence that did know everything

965
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: and remembered everything and also can use your emotional cues,

966
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: because I think in the last episode we spoke about

967
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: how AI is more accurate at gauging your emotional state

968
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: than people are.

969
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you think about this right now. If you've

970
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: got a relationship with some form of aib at, a

971
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: robot or be at chat, GPT or whatever, and you

972
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: feel loved or you feel thou or you feel recognized

973
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: or seen right, irrespective of whether or not what's coming

974
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: from the robot is completely manufactured or not, your experience

975
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 1: is real.

976
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: You know.

977
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: It's like that where somebody feels more comforted, more secure

978
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's actually the emotional transition is real.

979
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: They now feel less lonely or less isolated. I think

980
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: if one of the byproducts of some people having let's

981
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: call it our relationship, whatever kind. If the byproduct of

982
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: that is that it makes them mentally and or emotionally

983
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: better as long as no one's being hurt externally in

984
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: the process, I think it's a fucking great thing.

985
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that. The funny thing is

986
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: that as you're saying that, my dog Fritzy is sitting

987
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 3: on a chair right next to me, and I've got

988
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: my hand resting on him, patting him because it makes

989
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: me feel calm and I feel connected. And the fact

990
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: is he didn't want to sit on his bed. He

991
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 3: wanted to be sitting as close to me as possible,

992
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: and that makes me feel really good. So it make me.

993
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: How different is that than having a close friend with

994
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: you or you know, and I know what you're saying.

995
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 3: We do anthropomorphizers and the that AI gets and your

996
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: AI chat could eventually be a fully autonomous robot that

997
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: looks like you want it to look. Elon Musk said

998
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: this week that by next year he will have his

999
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: robots working in their officers and functioning and autonomous working

1000
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: out of their offices the Tesla officers. So this is

1001
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: where he claims his autonomous robots are right now and

1002
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: they will have concept robots working with people side by

1003
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 3: side as of next year.

1004
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I doubt it. I doubt it. I

1005
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: think you'll have them, but I don't. Elon Musk makes predictions,

1006
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: like he built this car called the Tesla Roadster, which

1007
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: is aod or convertible, does zero to one hundred in

1008
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: one point five seconds or something. He said it'd be

1009
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: on the road five six years ago. It's still not

1010
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: on the road. But I believe that that will happen.

1011
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: But I was thinking, mate, what about in thirty years.

1012
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: In thirty years when the kids that are being born, then,

1013
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 1: let's say in thirty years you're ten years old, So

1014
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: you were born in twenty forty four and now it's

1015
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: twenty fifty four, you would have grown up with robots.

1016
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: You would have been having conversations with robots since you

1017
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: could talk or some form of AI. Like the kids

1018
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: in the future will never have known a reality without

1019
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: conversation with technology, just like you know we do now

1020
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: human to human, they'll be human to machine or whatever

1021
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: we call that version of life form, you know, like

1022
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: that'll be they'll go remember the days when people just

1023
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: used to like date each other and marry each other.

1024
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: Remember that a little bit like the Dark Ages.

1025
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, do you think that. I guess there will

1026
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: be someone will marry a robot at some point.

1027
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: I think it's happened already. I think there's I saw

1028
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: this thing on this lady who married a brit married

1029
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower. Oh yeah, I'm not going to comment,

1030
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: but yep, married the Eiffel Tower. She's there in her

1031
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: wooding dress and hugging it, and shit, I'm like.

1032
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: All right, she consummate the marriage. No, let's not go there.

1033
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's not go there. Let's talk about something else.

1034
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 3: Just segue a little bit further from the chat, GPT

1035
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: and AI. The biggest concern at the moment with a

1036
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: lot of people is the environmental impact on technology and

1037
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 3: processing power needed to run the likes of chat, GPT.

1038
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: So Google and Microsoft now each it's believed, consume more

1039
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: power than some fit large countries. Okay, so let me

1040
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: just rattle off a few countries. Nigeria, Ireland, Serbia, Ecuador, Slovakia,

1041
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 3: and Libya all consume less power daily than Google and

1042
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: Microsoft separately. Wow, if you combined Google and Microsoft power usage,

1043
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: it would be more than Slovakia and Libya combined.

1044
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: That's that's somewhat terrifying. Yep, yep, stagg, Yeah, amazing. We

1045
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: got maybe five minutes. What do you wanna what do

1046
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: you wanna leave us with? Something that's going to blow

1047
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: our our cyber socks off, our artificially intelligent socks off.

1048
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: What do you want to go with?

1049
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: Really?

1050
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let's Dune is one of my favorite books of

1051
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: all time, Dune, and it was recently. You know, in

1052
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 3: the eighties there was a movie and now the new

1053
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: movie with Timothy Shamalay was in June one and June two.

1054
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 3: One of the I don't know how familiar you are

1055
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 3: with it, but they use what they call still suits.

1056
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: So it's an arid desert of Iracus and they wear

1057
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: these things called still suits that allow perspiration and all

1058
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: the expired or anything they use water wise. I guess,

1059
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: you know, to be recycled and reused. And now now

1060
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: have we say we you can say well it's okay,

1061
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: all right, thanks and we So it looks like it's

1062
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: become a reality. So there's a company, well, NASA at

1063
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: the moment obviously is working on the new spacesuits, the

1064
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: next generation of spacesuits. And because they're talking about the

1065
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: Artemis mission to the Moon, to Artemis two and Artemists three,

1066
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: and so what they're looking at is improving the waste

1067
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 3: management system. And now you can sweat, and you can

1068
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: wi and you can drink it.

1069
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I will, I will go to the back of

1070
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: the line. I will go to the back of the

1071
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: line for testing that. I will let you go first,

1072
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: because you're an innovator and a pioneer. Tiff screwing up

1073
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: her face. She's not clean about two things about TIFFs.

1074
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to see an ear on the back

1075
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: of a rat, and she doesn't want to drink her

1076
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: own weeed.

1077
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Speaker 4: So I eventually blood that, by the way, and yeah,

1078
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: you did, so you're not going to unsee that. Now

1079
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: every time I think of it, my face screws up.

1080
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Well, the researchers at Cornell University have come up with

1081
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: a filtration system that the only thing that kind of

1082
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: does it for me a little bit is that it

1083
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: does need a catheter system. A bit squirmish about that.

1084
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So they've developed this filtration system for space suits.

1085
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: And this is an article in Frontiers and space technology

1086
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: and so well. No, actually it's an external catheter unit

1087
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 3: and it's got what they call it osmosis unit, and

1088
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: it converts urine into drinking water. So you basically your pee,

1089
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: it goes through the filtration system and then you do well,

1090
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: they do that on the International Space Station. Tip. If

1091
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: you go out, you're someone's your right.

1092
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: Eventually, I don't play human anymore. I mean you've got

1093
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: to get where you're going to get liquid from in space?

1094
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: Bro, Yeah, I mean just stay on the place you're boo.

1095
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Is that right into space to drink?

1096
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: You're going to go all the way to space.

1097
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: You're not going to go there to drink your own way.

1098
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: If I have to go, I mean, I want to

1099
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: go to the moon. That's my bucket list, that's my

1100
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: own he used to drinking your own, wiz.

1101
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: I would to go to the moon, Yes, I had to.

1102
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: Have you seen have you seen pictures? Have you seen

1103
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: pictures of the moon? Yeah, there's fucking nothing there patrick.

1104
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: The view of the Earth.

1105
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: Well you can just google that.

1106
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: You'd get there and put in the bloody kitchen nett

1107
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: in anyway.

1108
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'd change your mind about thirty five times.

1109
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: Can we finish up with something out of self interest.

1110
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: I have an iPhone and apparently there are some new

1111
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: iPhone features, and I'm almost due for an upgrade, so

1112
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: tell me about that.

1113
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: There are a couple of new features. One of them

1114
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: I thought was pretty amazing. It's an app and this

1115
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: is also available and Android. By the way, it's an

1116
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: app to allow you for people who suffer from motion sickness,

1117
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 3: they look at the phone and they have this kind

1118
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: of screen. I think little dots appear and you focus

1119
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 3: in the center. But it helps you relieve your you know,

1120
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: if you're if you're on a boat or something and

1121
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: you're feeling sick, or you're at a car and you're

1122
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: feeling giddy. This can help me leave nausea. So that's out. Yeah, yeah,

1123
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: how good is that?

1124
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: So that I one how it works. It must work

1125
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: on your nervous system somehow. It's about optics.

1126
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's about kind of realigning what your visual

1127
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 3: care because generally what happens is it's a disconnect between

1128
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: what your body is doing and what your eyes are seeing.

1129
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: So that's why people using VR can have problem when

1130
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: they see a simulation of movement but their body doesn't

1131
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: understand what's happening because your body isn't moving, but your

1132
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: eyes are telling you your body is moving. Does that

1133
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: kind of make sense?

1134
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we finish with one thing that's just caught

1135
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: my eye?

1136
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1137
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you can scroll down to the futuristic material

1138
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: while you're looking for that. I'm going to so how

1139
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: a futuristic material is able to change its properties so

1140
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: that it goes from soft to rigids sounds like a

1141
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: cock and then back again. Is it.

1142
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: Go on?

1143
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: Is it called what just a matter?

1144
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: Is it the penile? Textile? What is it? I mean

1145
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: it does? So tell us about this futuristic material that

1146
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: can go from hard and hard to soft.

1147
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: It's been well, okay, here's a practical example of where

1148
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: it would be really handy. You've got a coat hanger

1149
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: and you're traveling right. Imagine if you were able to

1150
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 3: switch on flaccid mode and.

1151
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Wow, flaccid mode. I think that could be the title

1152
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: of the show flaccid mode.

1153
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: Switch on.

1154
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: That's like a superpower. You just talk into the phone

1155
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: on your fucking wrist, switch on flaccid power. Oh god,

1156
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm jotting that down. Yep, that could be. It's either

1157
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: going to be called tech anxiety this episode or flaccid power.

1158
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like people are going to have to

1159
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: listen to the whole show to find out the origin

1160
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: story of the title.

1161
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, when you think about it, if

1162
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: you go to bed, you don't hard peelow.

1163
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: God?

1164
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 3: Is that what we call them these days?

1165
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah?

1166
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: Okay, the co hangar example was a good one.

1167
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: So wasn't. Yeah, well you still haven't explained to us

1168
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: what what are we talking about? So you mean like

1169
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: a T shirt can be hard or soft?

1170
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: Do you mean that?

1171
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Or what do you mean?

1172
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 3: What happens is that the little bits that.

1173
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Make Oh he's stuttering, isn't he? Isn't he tiff? He

1174
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's fucking? He's making it up.

1175
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm not making it up.

1176
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: He's derailed himself with the word flaccid.

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have. The interlocking pieces that make up whatever

1178
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: the object is that you're making are able to be

1179
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: turned off and on so that they either interlinked rigidly,

1180
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: or they can be switched to a mode where they

1181
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: then collapse down to effectively become flaccid.

1182
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 4: They called tent poles.

1183
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: Give us, give us, give us an application of this

1184
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 1: ridiculous unnecessary technology.

1185
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: So you could you get a coat hanger that collapses

1186
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: down and are just dangling there and then when you

1187
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 3: open it up it goes into the rigid shape of

1188
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: a coat hanger. So will you traveling? How handy? Would

1189
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: that be the objective?

1190
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? He says, code hagar? Funny he

1191
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: says codehanger?

1192
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.

1193
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: Like what's that about? What did I say?

1194
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: What?

1195
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: How did I open it out? Where? Did you say?

1196
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: Well, it's coat hanger and you say codehangar? I did, Yes,

1197
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: you did.

1198
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

1199
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: From everyone listening, you sound like Sheldon from The Big Bang.

1200
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Code Hagar, Patrick, You've been terrible today. How do people

1201
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: find you and follow you? Why would they want to?

1202
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: Seriously?

1203
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: Why they Well, because you're never terrible. You know that

1204
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: we love you. You know I love you, and you

1205
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: know Tiff loves you, and you're always brilliant. How do

1206
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: people come and start your joint?

1207
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I actually have a marketing business. Believe it

1208
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: or that. Figure Now go to websites now dot com

1209
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: dot Au websites now dot com today you and we

1210
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: kind of can help with that sort of stuff. Tech

1211
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: stuff building websites, branding, positioning, and if you want to.

1212
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: Know more about code hangars just hit him up.

1213
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get a personal one on one coat

1214
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: hanger story.

1215
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: Thanks Tiff, Thanks guys,