WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 14 January 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:07.120 On Skyans Australia. This is the winder Panalty Show. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.360 Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show. We've 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.360 got a massive program for you. Joining me tonight is 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 the great Douglas Murray and my word he has come 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:18.759 back in top four. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.720 We do not want to miss that interview. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.520 Also tonight Gary Hargrave will tell us about the enormous 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:29.080 luxury travel bill, Former Victorian Treasurer Tim Palace racked up 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.680 and Josh Hammer will have the latest from the US 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:36.640 and another extended edition of Left is Losing It featuring 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.919 the leader of the Free World lying shamelessly and incoherently. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.199 Look, let's catch up my mind a border. When I 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.000 became president, the numbers came way down Ama. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.559 But first, with the inaugurration of President Donald Trump just 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.960 days away, there are growing concerns surrounding this strength of 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.880 Australia's relationship with the US and how it's been undermined 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.480 by not just the policy of the Albanezy government but 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.120 also the very unwise anti Trump commentary we've heard from 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.560 a number of senior ministers over the years. Joining me 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.760 now for more on this, the Sky News contributor Gary 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:17.640 Hardgrave Gary. How does the Prime minister fix this issue? 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.480 Guessing Kevin Rudd isn't going to be a great deal 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:21.880 of help. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.480 Yeah, well, I mean Albo is not one of the 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.440 twelve world leaders invited to the inauguration, so there's that. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.600 The only way we've got an invite there is that. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.280 I think Kevin Rudd is helping with the catering core, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.600 and Penny wan is there obviously to keep an eye 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.399 on Kevin Rudd. Look, I think we're going along purely 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.920 because we're one of the quad countries. So was it 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.920 kind of they had to invite them along? But look, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:54.000 it's embarrassing, but the American people have made their decision, 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.320 and I think the world is going to be a 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.080 safer and better place a week or so from now. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:00.600 I actually think there's going to be a liber day 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.880 for a lot of people and a lot of big companies. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.760 And unfortunately read it, there's a lot of companies in 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.680 this country who are now still being now forced by 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.160 government to do the things that this government wants them 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.680 to do. And we're seeing all this stuff out of 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.880 California about you can't do this and you can't say that, 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:22.280 and indeed, you look at where Zuckerberg were landed with Meta. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.680 You know, suddenly Biden's going and now he's a liberated, 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.760 so free free speech guy. I think the same thing's 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.160 going to happen in Australia a few months from now. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.720 Albow is going and people can't wait to see the 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.919 back end of him. He's not relevant, and I actually 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.840 don't even think he needs to go to the inauguration 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.239 because you've got you've got Biden there, and Albow is 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.040 our Biden. We've got a few state and municipal leaders 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.160 around this country who are our Gavin Newsom's. But you know, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.600 there are people in this country who are fed up 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.520 to the back teeth see Trump as a liberator for 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.760 this nation as well, and Albow is just well, we're 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.000 putting up with him for a few more months. That's 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.799 what I pray and I think is the case. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.440 Now, what do you think about former Foreign Minister Julie 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:14.079 Bishop saying that Kevin Rudd stays as ambassador may be numbered. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.760 It was an interesting commentary from Bishop. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.440 Do you share that point of view? 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.280 Well, I suspect it's true, and it's not up for 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.639 Donald Trump to tell us who he will accept as 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.799 our ambassador, but the Prime minister, this prime Minister Albanese, 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:34.040 he cannot read any room he's in. He's chosen the 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.400 wrong side of every argument. Did not know what to 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:42.040 do after what happened in October of twenty three in Israel, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.080 did not know really what to do after the synagogue 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.240 fire in Melbourne. The guy has got no leadership understanding 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.800 about how the world is now operating in the post 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.680 Trump president or in the Trump presidency era that we're 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.200 about to go into. So I suspect he'll hang in 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.160 there with Kevin for a little while longer. But I 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.440 think Kevin will have what we used to say in politics, 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.040 a coughing fit, and he'll probably have to come home. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.440 He came to Queensland over the summer months to look 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.200 at his beachside apartment up on the Sunny coast. As 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.360 I understand it, and good luck to him, But I 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.160 just think that Albow can't read any room he's in 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.120 in this country, so how can he actually read a 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.440 room in another country? The guy just doesn't understand it. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.160 Now, let's go to revelations that former Victorian Treasurer ty 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.440 in Palace racked up over six hundred and fifty thousand 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:39.840 dollars in taxpayer under luxury travel, including over seventy two 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.880 thousand dollars GARY in travel and accommodation costs for his 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.800 farewell tour, which included the UK, France, Italy, Spain all 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.440 the nice spots. This was in October, shortly before he 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.839 quit politics. I mean, how can he possibly justify that? 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.159 And let's not forget he's a man who bears a 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:05.160 great deal of responsibility for sending this state broke. Victoria's 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.440 got the biggest state debt of any state in this country. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.599 And I was in Melbourne for a couple of days 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.680 in the last weekend and read I got to tell 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.040 you the great city of Melbourne is in a palace 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.599 state because of Palace And I think that's really his name, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.960 Dim Palas. I mean, it's just the problem with all 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:31.240 of these provincial leaders. They think that they are uber important, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.960 that there's supermen when it comes to anything, and that 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.520 their view of the world must prevail. But what we 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.040 need is for Victoria to be punched back into the 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.960 success that Australia needs it to have. A complete change 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.800 of focus has got to come. I don't think there's 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.880 the capacity within the latest premiere that the Labor Party 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.839 have thrown up because the inbuilt attitude of too many 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.520 Victorians is that it's doom and gloom. I think it's 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.800 really sad. You know, there was a big rainstorm you 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.640 might record it on Sunday morning as I was walking 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.119 up Burke Street and even the eves of inner city 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.719 shops were leaking. There's no basic maintenance being done. You 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.120 just know, reader, that there is a genuine lethargy in 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.480 Victoria that Australia desperately needs an end to. And Tim 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.280 Palace should hang his head in shame. And any opportunity 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.599 Victorians have to tell a Labor Party so in a 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:27.719 ballot box they should take. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.400 Well, we had the new Opposition leader, Brad Batten on 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.719 Sky News yesterday. He was interviewed by Peter Kredlin. I'm 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.680 interested in your thoughts on him. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.159 Could he pull a Chris of. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.960 Foley and get the Coalition back into power. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.960 Well, what he needs to do is to actually stand 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.839 for stuff, be common sense, be value based, and actually 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.600 offer an alternative viewpoint. I mean, reader, why is it 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.160 that senior public servants in governments all around this country 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.960 are being paid more than their ministers. You know, so 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.400 ministers come and go, premiers come and go, but their 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.560 senior public servants are getting paid much more than the 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.440 politicians that are meant to be in charge on behalf 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.880 of us. You know, They're meant to be working for us, 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.120 we the people, but instead they become the masters of 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.000 us with their policy settings. So what Batman has got 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.360 to do is the goat role and bring Victorians with him, 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.280 and if he does, then he's deserving him. 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.440 You've got to tackle the bureaucracy, Marry, You're so right. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.760 He's got to tackle that bureaucracy that is at of control. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.600 We've run out of time. Thank you so much for 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.160 your time tonight, Gary. Thanks Now, I'm. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.480 Thrilled to have my next guest on the Rita Pattery 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.280 Show every week for another year. He is one of 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.480 the finest thinkers of his generation, the author of international. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.040 Best sellers including The Madness. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.480 Of Crowds, The Strange Death of Europe, and The War 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.480 on the West. Douglas Murray, welcome back. We've got plenty 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.440 to discuss. Let's start in the US. We're a week 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.320 away from the second Trump term. What do you say 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.040 as the greatest priority of the president elect. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:08.920 He has quite a mystic cleanup. 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:10.440 He does. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.520 I mean, I think the priorities are obviously going to 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.200 be what he said on the campaign trail. The priorities 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.760 had to be have to be securing the southern borders, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.160 securing the borders of the United States of America, preventing 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:28.560 the illegal migration that's gone on so extraordinarily in recent years. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:30.920 Secondly, of course, there'll be. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.240 The whole issue of the economy, of. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.880 Rebuilding the American economy. 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.960 And as it was, the third thing, and as you say, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:41.200 it's a pretty big intray that he's got is going 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.280 to be a world affairs. There's a lot that's gone 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.679 on in the world in the last four years that 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.040 Trump said would not have gone on if he'd been 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.640 in the White House. Now he's going to be back 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.760 in the White House, and it's his chance to show. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.319 The difference between Trump and Biden. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.360 Now, in many ways, California serves as a warning to 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.640 much of the US of what can happen when the 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.960 Democrats enjoy one party rule, when they can run a mark. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.920 It is the bluest of blue states and is embraced 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:16.480 just about every far left policy, including DEI madness even 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.280 in the fire department. Let's have a listen here to 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:25.640 the Los Angeles Fire Department Assistant Chief Kristen Larsen talking 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:26.120 about the. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.679 Importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.320 You want to see somebody that responds to your house, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.080 your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.760 that looks like you. It gives that person a little 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.319 bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.960 Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.640 carry my husband out of a fire, which my response 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.520 is he got himself from the wrong place. If I 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.520 have to carry him out of a fire. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.520 He got himself in the wrong place. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.000 That would be funny, Douglas if it was a Babylon 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.400 b sketch, But sadly it's all too real. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.680 Absolutely, and that's including at the very top of the 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.800 fire department in LA, the head of the LA Fire Department. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.480 If you even now look at the website that she 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.720 has her bio, it's all about the fact that she's 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.199 a diverse woman, that she's a proud member of the 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:24.040 LGBTQYA plus community, and that her priority is diversity and 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.080 the numscu. We just heard from there also in the 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:32.439 fire department. I mean, I hope very much that LA 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.080 voters and others take note of this. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.280 In the end, these people who talked for the diversity. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:44.800 Talk didn't know what they were doing in the real world. Actually, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.520 it's not about somebody who looks like you coming to 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.880 your house. It's about somebody coming to your house. It's 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.720 about somebody saving your house from burning down. I spoke 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:01.360 to residents of LA earlier this week whose home and 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.360 all their belongings had been burnt to nothing, as had 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:10.160 their whole neighborhood, and they said to me, not one fire. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.800 Truck showed up, not one reta. 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:17.160 Now, if I was a resident there, and I'd heard 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.920 this guff for years about how important it is that 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.319 a diverse woman of color should come and how empowering 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.920 it is that a lesbian is head of a No. No, 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.920 you just want competent fire authorities. And that is exactly 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:39.560 what LA has not had. And we'll see if the 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.800 appropriate lessons are learned from that or not. But this 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.560 goes right up to the top. It's Governor Nuisance who 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:49.160 is doing this nonsense. It's the local mayor who is 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.000 doing this nonsense, heads of the fire service who are 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.320 doing this nonsense. And in the end, somebody has to 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.840 be responsible for the fact that there was no water. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.800 Somebody has to be responsible for the fact that there's 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.880 no water coming out of the fire hydrants. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:04.640 Somebody has to be responsible for all this. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.640 And Governor Newsom has been standing intermittently, as we can 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.599 see there in front of these fires, in front of 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.960 these burned out buildings, talking about how we can all 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.840 pull together and go forward, and all of the usual 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.280 inane nonsense, and the whole neighborhood's burned down and is 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:22.240 still burning. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.520 I hope very much. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.280 The residents who suffered from this realize that this stuff 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.680 is not a joke, and things were always too late 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.240 for this nonsense, and they're certainly too late for it now. 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.240 Now. For many years under the Biden administration, we've seen 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:48.280 white supremacy spoken of as the greatest threat facing America. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.120 We single out as the most dangerous terrorist about to 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:52.800 our homeland. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:59.200 There's white supremacy, and that divorce from reality worldview has 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.199 for many many years infected institutions like a Department of Justice, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:03.800 the FBI. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.880 How do you see that. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.040 Changing under Trump, particularly after the shock of the New 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.240 Orleans terror attack on New Year's Day. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.320 Well, you know, a counter terrorism and counter extremism policy 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.320 should be one of the most evidence based policies in government. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.520 It should not be about pushing an ideology. It shouldn't 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.480 be standing in front of a particular demographic and an 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.880 electorate and saying I've decided that X is the biggest threat. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.240 It should be based on what the biggest threats are. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.160 And you know this whole thing of you know that 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.520 people people like Biden for years have known that they'd 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.160 get a sort of Democrat round of applause if they 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.360 started talking about being against white supremacy. I mean, like 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.360 white supremacy is this thing where like everyone's agreed that 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.800 they don't want it or like it, and nobody in 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.959 the mainstream in politics or anything like that is pushing 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.160 for the KKK to. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:05.079 Have a resurgence. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:10.120 When there is the occasional whacko white supremacist, everybody's joined 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.840 in condemnation of them. But what's different, of course, is 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.720 that when it's somebody who's an Islamist, as we had 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.880 a number of attacks in America Europe over Christmas carried 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.080 out by people who appear to be driven by Islamic extremism. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.800 Oh well, those same people stop being evidence based. In 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.560 fact that they run away from evidence. They don't want 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.240 to talk about that, or we always get the thing 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.400 of this isn't the time to talk about it, and 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.440 further down the line also. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:41.920 Isn't the time to talk about it? And actually it 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.680 turns out there's no time to talk about it. 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.800 And I would just hope that there'll be a realistic 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.960 weighing up of the threats the American homeland under the 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.360 new administration and weighing up those threats wherever they come 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.840 from and dealing with them wherever they come from. But 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.920 we'll see. I mean, there's one of the things is 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.400 that residues of administrations can last an awfully long time, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.720 particularly if they're of the left. They remain effectively in 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.720 the trees and forests left behind by the retreating administration. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:22.840 And there will be whole structures in CIA, FBI, the DHS, 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.760 and others who will still be following the Democrat lead 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:33.480 on this even once the Republicans are back in. And 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.440 that's one to really look out for, because it's one 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.240 thing to have the policy, it's another thing to actually 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.680 have departments and institutions of government that actually see it through. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.640 That of course, happened during Trump's first term, so I 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.880 think he's hopefully learned from that. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.680 I'm going to go scorched. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.720 Earth from day one, and if cash Patel is there 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.760 heading the FBI, I think you're going to see a 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.480 little bit of that. But let's switch to the UK, 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.680 where the kiirs starmer government seems to be more perturbed 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:06.080 by the world's richest man, Elon Musk shining a light 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.880 on the grooming gang scandal, then the fact that thousands 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.840 of vulnerable girls were assaulted, were raped by mainly Pakistani 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.400 Muslim men who were allowed for years to act with 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.800 impunity due to political correctness. Douglas, we saw the rule 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:28.120 of law. We saw common decency sacrificed in the name 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:35.240 of community cohesion and cultural sensitivity. Has the UK now 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.760 learned its lesson? Could the Grooming gang scandal happen again? 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:41.400 Oh? 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.000 Of course it could happen again, because UK hasn't learned 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.360 any lessons from it. And that's because, again, just like 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.760 I was saying about the institutions in America, in Britain, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.800 it's not just the two tier policing system that kir 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.280 Starmer has overseen since coming into office. It's the fact 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:02.360 that the police, local counselor, local councils. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:04.400 MPs and others have all overseen this. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.879 And they all they've all overseen this. And actually it 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:14.280 required perhaps Elon Musk and a few other high profile 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.520 accounts in America to pick up on this and say, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.479 hang on, guys, what is it you've allowed to go 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.720 on here for people to actually realize again in Britain 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:28.560 what this was, which was the biggest sexual crime carried 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.720 out in modern British history, all not just under the 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.760 noses of but in front of the faces of all 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.080 the relevant authorities. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.240 And you know, at the. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.359 Moment the big grand standing thing to do is to 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.120 call for a full public inquiry into this. The truth 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.320 is there are plenty of public inquiries that have been 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.360 taken place that have taken place into these these these 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:55.160 rape gangs, and nothing ever really changes that much because 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.920 nobody nobody asks answers which. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.320 They don't want. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:02.199 Sorry, nobody asks questions rather that they don't want answers to. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.000 And the answers to this are, as I said in 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.560 the Spectator this week, pretty straightforward. Actually there that if 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.240 a man is found to have been a grooming raping, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:19.680 gang raping, molesting women or underage girls, that person should 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.000 go to a prison for a very long time. And 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.840 if they have dual nationality, they should be chucked out 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.960 of the UK. They should have their British nationality withdrawn 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.240 and they should be deported. Now, most of these men 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:35.480 should be deported back to Pakistan, but the immigration system 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.360 in Britain is so rotten that, as I mentioned again 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.040 in the Spectator this week, a number of the men 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.359 were released from prison early, use the time to appeal 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.760 against their deportation and use that time to give up 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.560 their Pakistani citizenship so they could stay. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:50.920 In the UK. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.720 Because it takes so long to get people out of 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.640 the UK, and in the end nobody does get sent 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.359 out of the UK. Oh and then a couple of 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:58.480 cases where people. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.600 Actually were able to be turned to Pakistan. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.720 Shock and horror. The Pakistani government didn't want more gang 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.080 rapists in Pakistan, so they didn't receive them back. Well, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.440 any sensible government should say, you know what, Pakistan, we 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.160 give you millions of pounds a year in foreign aid, 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.080 as does our ally the United States of America, you'll 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.159 take your citizens back. You'll take them back. Otherwise you 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.280 can say bye by to any foreign aid or anything else. 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.720 But you know, none of that is coming from the government, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.440 and too little of it, in my view, is coming 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.639 from the opposition either. They're all fixated on this. Let's 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:38.560 have years of inquiries. Inquiries don't matter a damn when 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.240 what happens is at the end of it, the inquiry 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.320 is shelved, the person who's done the inquiry is thanked 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.040 and nothing changes. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.159 It is just so shocking, and I'm glad at least 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.800 the American attention is saying the British public look at 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.960 this again, because I was shocked. I wrote a lot 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.040 about it at the time, seven eight years ago. This 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:06.120 is in my mind, the greatest scandal in modern British. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:10.240 History, and people treated it like it was nothing. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.400 It was something that was worthy of a few headlines 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:17.240 and when we get on with life, and I don't 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:21.640 think they've really examined how this happened, what it says 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.159 about modern British culture and. 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:31.320 There absolutely you're quite right. I mean, it's just astonishing. 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.840 And as I say, it's partly because this is one 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:41.240 of those stories that runs straight against the credo of 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.280 our time in countries like Britain, and i'd argue Australia, 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.080 most of Europe and Canada and other places as well, 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:53.560 and the credo is diversity is our strength, Diversity is 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.320 our strength. The more diverse we are, the better we are. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.840 And the societies were in were desperately born, boring, bland 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.879 places until we brought some diversity into it. And you know, 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.639 there's something to be said for the diversity argument, but 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:08.919 not everything to be said for it. In fact, there 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.760 are some things to be said against it. There are 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.120 sometimes when you don't want to be more diverse. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.000 There are certain. 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.280 Bits of diversity you don't really need, you don't really want. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:22.400 I would argue hundreds of thousands of people potentially who 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:27.280 have seventh century attitudes towards women being imported into your 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.320 society and being told to just get on with it 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.480 and being allowed to get on with it. And that's 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.800 the problem for the authorities in all of this is 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.080 that you know, for all of the police awareness diversity 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.240 days and all the council diversity is our strength days, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:48.800 the rape gang's case showed there are actually downsides the diversity. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:53.000 There are negatives to it as well, and they didn't 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.240 want to admit to that. They couldn't admit to it 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.359 because there'd be a follow up question which would be 0:21:57.359 --> 0:21:58.760 what are you going to do about it? 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.680 And so they just ducked it. 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.400 They just ducked it, and they hoped in the immortal 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.320 words of that queet that labor MP Naz Shah briefly 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.879 retweeted and then took down. But the raped girls of 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.439 Rotherham should quote shut up for the sake of diversity. 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.960 They should shut up for the sake of diversity. No, 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.040 some of us, like you and me Rita, always said 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.520 that was wrong. These girls should have been listened to 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.960 and their complaints should have been acted upon. If anyone 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.800 doubts that there is a double standard in modern Britain, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.960 as in many other Western liberal democracies these days, you 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.400 just need to ask one question, what would have happened 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:40.200