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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to episode two of Breaking Even with

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Speaker 1: Al Peyton, hosted by me Al Peyton. This is the

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Speaker 1: new weekly show on the official Supercoach AFL podcast feed,

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Speaker 1: and this is your show. Each week, I'll be joined

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Speaker 1: by the finest super Coach minds to answer your questions.

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Speaker 1: And there are plenty of questions that need answers with

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Speaker 1: the first lockout of the twenty twenty five Super Coach

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Speaker 1: season just fifteen days away, which is inducing a slot

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Speaker 1: amount of panic, but there is plenty to get through.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, We've got some injury news, lots of

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Speaker 1: injury news. We'll give our best super Coach smokies for

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Speaker 1: the year, and we have one official Amy series game

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Speaker 1: to talk about in here to talk about it with

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Speaker 1: me is Patch. Assume you're booking holidays for September already.

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Speaker 1: After that Bomba's performance.

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Speaker 2: The lid is off our Zach Cacos kicking one hundred,

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Speaker 2: Harry Jones is going to win the Norm Smith, Zach

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Speaker 2: Merritt Brownlow, It's all happening. The lid is off and

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Speaker 2: I will find it in about twenty minutes when I

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Speaker 2: realized that it was a preseason game and nothing matters nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, but it was nice to have some excitement

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Speaker 2: up and about. Footy is back. It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: It is exciting, Tim Mitchell. Another reason why it's exciting

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Speaker 1: because Tim Midjoy is with us. Tim, what did you

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Speaker 1: take from last night's game.

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Speaker 3: It's been a big week, hasn't it. Al I sort

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Speaker 3: of tuned and frowed with eyes that Kaco during the preseason.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, do I want to small forward from the Bombers?

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Speaker 3: Do I want to pay one hundred and fifty k

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Speaker 3: for him or the best part of and yeah, confirmed

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Speaker 3: that we have to have him. Really wasn't that sold

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Speaker 3: on Sam de Conning, So I'm probably looking at a

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Speaker 3: few other options there. But yeah, looking forward to these

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Speaker 3: other games as well, which as we record, we sort

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Speaker 3: of haven't seen too much. But yeah, it's been a

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Speaker 3: tough week for Chloe and I with the Jagger Smith

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Speaker 3: news which we're still getting over, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: rejigging for super coaches on the back of that, and

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Speaker 3: the fact that Sardel Hawley looks like he's a VFL

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Speaker 3: player to start the year as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Chloe was actually in a state when

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Speaker 1: that Jacko Smith news came out, so a big effort

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Speaker 1: from her to return home. I thought we might not

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Speaker 1: see it for twelve months. But Chloe, great to have

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Speaker 1: you on board, and yeah, I mean, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a tough decision to be like, you know what,

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Speaker 5: I do have to go home, and I do have

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Speaker 5: to remove Jaggersmith from my super coach team.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not feeling good about that.

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Speaker 5: There's a whole host of injuries at Carton, but if

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Speaker 5: we're going to be talking about the Dons and the Cats,

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Speaker 5: then there was plenty of interesting things there. For me personally,

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Speaker 5: the one that stood out was Mitch Nevertt. I was

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Speaker 5: expecting a little bit more based on the eye test.

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Speaker 5: I'm being honest.

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Speaker 1: Dan Betton's been talking about I thought one hundred and

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Speaker 5: But I'm not one hundred percent sold that there is

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Speaker 5: enough there. He's feeling like a little bit of a

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Speaker 5: sub risk for me at the moment, just with considering

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Speaker 5: who was out for the cuts last night. But as

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Speaker 5: we keep saying, it's just preseason, so it's just something

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Speaker 4: I will try my best not to overreact to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what about our the two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: odd teams that's called moves Lock Jagger for season twenty

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Speaker 6: Like we knew that that was going to be a

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Speaker 3: Team name, and I think we've seen a million headlines

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Speaker 3: already this preseason since Jaggers it's got drafted to the Blues.

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Speaker 3: But back to the drawing board, now, I think there

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Speaker 3: is a way if you go into your account, you

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Speaker 6: Chance your team name.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, those two and twenty I've got to come

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we'll get into the injuries in a second,

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Speaker 1: but just anything further from last night. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: the other one is just Sam de Conne. When I

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Speaker 1: This could be a bargain for us in defense. But

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Speaker 1: the way that all played out, I just don't think

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Speaker 1: he got annihilated basically by Sam Draper and Nick Bryan,

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Speaker 1: which is not exactly you know, Max Gorn and Brodie Grundy.

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Speaker 1: Hey yeah, yeah, yeah, enough of that, enough of that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure how long the Cats will

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Speaker 2: And well, they did come out post game. I think

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Speaker 2: one of the assistants spoke Dwann Bauton after the game

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Speaker 2: and said, yeah, they planned to roll reach and lead

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Speaker 2: never trust myself picking at Geelong Ruckman, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's you know, even if the scoring was there, it's

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Speaker 2: still a bit scary. And the scoring didn't look there

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Speaker 2: I said that, I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To warn it didn't didn't Lloyd me absolutely moll In

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Speaker 3: a week before as well, Yeah, exactly like I think

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Speaker 3: he's not. He's not a long term Ruckmann. Ten games there,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, just I can see that blowing up for

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Speaker 1: Sadly, yeah, and in terms of the essen and cheapies, Kloye,

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Speaker 1: who did you like that? I mean Kako obviously, I

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Speaker 1: hundred percent of teams after that. Performance and status pretty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the look of both Jackson Pryor, and

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Speaker 5: I can't fit Prior in at the moment, just at

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Speaker 5: that slightly more expensive rookie price.

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Speaker 4: But I've thoughted Zach.

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Speaker 4: I loved what I saw from Zach Reed last night.

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Speaker 5: I think it was seventy two super Coach points that

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Speaker 5: he could just please stay fit. But Elijah Startist as

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Speaker 5: his efficiency, still wasn't the best last night, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Lewis Hayes played as well, who I was very

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Speaker 2: keen to see in action, got a very stern lesson

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Speaker 2: from Jeremy Cameron, but one hundred and nineteen K in

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Speaker 2: ahead of Jadan Laverde or if Bason Redmond pushes him out,

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Speaker 2: but certainly don't lock him into your plants just yet.

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Speaker 2: Was the other Essendon rookie I think there.

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Speaker 1: I guess the other news was Sardel Hall. He wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: so he's still in plenty of super coach teams. We've

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Speaker 1: played in the VFL, and seems like he's not quite

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tom Edwards, heicked a bunch of goals in the VFL,

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Speaker 2: played a quarter of AFL, but don't see him there

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Speaker 2: round one and if he years, he'll be the I reckon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah ninety nine K tempted to a bit. We'll better

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Speaker 1: get into some injury news, so every week we will

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Speaker 1: do a regular injury report and HbF has signed on

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Speaker 1: to sponsor that for us for the year, so welcome aboard.

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Speaker 1: That's great news and there's absolutely jam packed this week.

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Speaker 1: Already we mentioned Jacko Smith out for the year. That's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Then we just had some breaking news just before we

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Speaker 1: some kind of knee issues. So very very early days there,

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Speaker 1: but we're all, you know, checking the super coach, who

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Speaker 1: else and Sydney got in the Rutgers. The stocks aren't

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Speaker 1: super deep in that position, but Peter Ladams I think

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Speaker 2: Joel Lomarti season party.

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Speaker 1: Is seriously injured in there for a little while. And

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Speaker 1: then we had Bailey Smith didn't play last night, but

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Speaker 1: Stephen King assured Dan Batton that he's definitely going to

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Speaker 1: play in opening round, so at least we' get to

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Speaker 1: see them there before round one. No such like though

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Speaker 1: Callum Mills plant to fesci itis. He's out until Lee

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Speaker 1: disarray for sure. Zach Butter's out. There's another one I'm

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Speaker 1: Got to knock a training I think, and he won't

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Speaker 1: The other one that had us making changes when it

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Speaker 1: So you think, hang on a moment. This just opens

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Speaker 1: what we've all been praying for. Is he now straight

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I was going to be crazy earlier in the week

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Speaker 3: Old Limbreedy are two. At one point I thought I'm

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Speaker 6: Harry Boyd might actually be the rockman because.

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Speaker 3: Yeh, there's a bit of word around that rowand Marshall

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Speaker 3: potentially struggling to get to the line for round one,

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Speaker 3: So I think if you were going to go down

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Speaker 3: than liamb Redy because what we've seen if Redy so

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Speaker 3: far suggests that his scoring is not going to be great,

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Speaker 3: So I can understand people that maybe want him in

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Speaker 3: the flex. But yeah, as soon as that news came

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Speaker 6: He's my two next to Twisted Cherriot. Don't want to

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Speaker 3: I think we saw Tom de Conning's huge sheeling when

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Speaker 3: he was one out as a ruckman last year. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: who knows when Mark Pittnay is going to be back,

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Speaker 3: and you'd suspect that he's probably gonna have.

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Speaker 6: To work his way back through the VFL.

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Speaker 3: But two other popular players on the injury list as well,

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Speaker 3: our Bailey Dale potentially not going to be in the

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Speaker 3: bulldog side round one, and then Ed Richards also with

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Speaker 3: a calf complaint to he's sort of racing the clock

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Speaker 3: to be there in round one as well, So there

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Speaker 3: might be some pretty important flow and effects there for

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Speaker 3: guys like Joel Fraser and Riley Sanders as well. You

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Speaker 3: think Sanders probably gets a pretty big opportunity if Ed

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Speaker 3: Richards is out of the midfield early on in the season.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chloe, actually you spoke to Tom daconey this morning,

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Speaker 2: didn't you? What was the hot guss?

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Speaker 4: That was yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday? A days are meaningless and blurring together, but what

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Speaker 2: was the hot gas?

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Speaker 5: Well, from my perspective and what I could gather, it

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Speaker 5: just the whole general vibe seems to be that he

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Speaker 1: Who's someone with sort of trying to define a smoky

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Guard that's not been on as many radars as

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Speaker 2: Does he play more of a halfback, does he's playing

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Speaker 2: And is that enough to make him an option? If

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Speaker 6: Did you say how to heat out? Is that what

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Speaker 2: I heard that out? Yeah, he played back up right

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Speaker 2: here and there he pinched hit in the rock rock Okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe crips ruckman.

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Speaker 3: Because I was hiding behind the couch during the Hockball

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Speaker 2: No, we have some very vocal or foreign fans in

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Speaker 6: Annoying football fans, you can get those.

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Speaker 1: Soo, Chloe, I think you've got another one down in defense.

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Speaker 1: Mind he's in defense too, actually, but who have you

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know why not? Because we're all struggling a

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Speaker 5: Round twenty verse Sandry Ham as well, he got thirty

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Speaker 5: two disposals eleven intercept marks, which equates to one hundred

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If I look at those scores from last year, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would put it around there. I don't mind

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as you said, in defense, we are scratching around.

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Speaker 1: I think Tim, you might have a defender as wealthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've gone Rogan picked too, so I'll throw something,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, like I feel like Marge Simpson

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Speaker 3: I think he went at eighty three percent by foot.

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Speaker 3: Last year's disposal numbers improved from I think fourteen a

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Speaker 3: You know how much I love guys that take kickinsal

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Speaker 3: last year. But he's the type of guy that his

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Speaker 3: I was saying even late last year that I thought

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Speaker 6: Points of value in his starting price for this year.

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Speaker 3: But up the other end of the ground, like you

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Speaker 3: fact that I think Riley phil Thorpe's going to win

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Speaker 3: the colemn and he's three hundred and seventy K in

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Speaker 6: But I think Thilthorpe could score just as well as

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Speaker 1: Will he do some rucking as well? Potentially?

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Speaker 6: Maybe not like Hawkins mold like a bit of forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He might, But no, Riley O'Brien plays ninety plus percenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I same on him and all aboard the Chrome

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm so keen on the cross out.

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Speaker 3: It probably means he's going to probably means they're going

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Speaker 6: I've got a really good feeling about the CROs this year.

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Speaker 1: He's not doing much for our rivalry with the Fantoms there.

439
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Speaker 1: If we're getting on board, you have to sort of

440
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Speaker 1: be like me and avoid all these South Australian players.

441
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Speaker 1: But I've gone in defense as well, really similar theory

442
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Speaker 1: to you know what a lot of us are talking

443
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Speaker 1: about with you know, meals going down. He's three fifty

444
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Speaker 1: odd k. Sam Deaconing went in for a little while

445
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Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm going to have him for

446
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Speaker 1: very long. So he's around the same price three sixty k.

447
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Speaker 1: And then some of the others I was looking at

448
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Speaker 1: to potentially replace them with a bit more expensive with

449
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Speaker 1: you know, Maddy Robertson, you've got to get up to

450
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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty for him. So Joel Frazier is

451
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's still a smoky at one

452
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Speaker 1: point nine percent. I don't even though we did touch

453
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Speaker 1: on him already. I did do this before that Bailey

454
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Speaker 1: Dale news. But I guess that is a bit of

455
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Speaker 1: a quid mark because Frager was just about best on

456
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Speaker 1: ground apparently in the practice match the other day, but

457
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Speaker 1: bailet out didn't play, so you'd want to see them

458
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Speaker 1: in the same team. But last year Fraser was obviously

459
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Speaker 1: a great rookie for US average sixty eight and in

460
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Speaker 1: around twenty four playing with Dale in the team he

461
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Speaker 1: had twenty nine disposals, thirteen marks, and one hundred and

462
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Speaker 1: thirty six super coach. So just shows what his potential

463
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Speaker 1: isn't not expecting him to do that every week. But

464
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Speaker 1: one stat that stood out to me, and Tim's touch

465
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Speaker 1: on it already, the kickings. He took two kickins for

466
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Speaker 1: the entire season last year, Joel, So you just need

467
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Speaker 1: to get a bit more selfish, get back to that

468
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Speaker 1: ball bag and before Bailey dark because we know he

469
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Speaker 1: loves to sprint back there and grab it. But yeah,

470
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Speaker 1: if you could maybe get a couple more kick ins,

471
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Speaker 1: that'd help his average go up a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: at three seventy k, yeah, I mean I'm sort of

473
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Speaker 1: shopping for someone in that price range in the back line.

474
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's definitely won on the radar. And I

475
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Speaker 1: suppose we won't get to see him with Dale in

476
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Speaker 1: the team now it looks like in the Amy series,

477
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Speaker 1: but I'll have a close recording when the Dogs play

478
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Speaker 1: this week. So on Monday, the AFL captains gathered at

479
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Speaker 1: Marvel Stadium and we were down there to quiz them

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Speaker 1: about their best breakouts and Smokey's for super Coach this year.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a.

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Speaker 8: Listen Sam CLAIHERSI, Oh, Joel Freese is probably my pick

483
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Speaker 8: so far, had a great preseason. He'll play in our

484
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Speaker 8: back line and he'll create good run and dash from there.

485
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Speaker 8: So look out for Joel.

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Speaker 1: Breakout play for us. I'd get on Elijah Hewitt, I reckon.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I mentioned his name a few times today, so I

489
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Speaker 9: hope he doesn't watch too much of this and get

490
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Speaker 9: his head big.

491
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he might be ours break out. This is weird.

492
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Speaker 7: I like to go someone that's played for a long

493
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Speaker 7: time but it's randomly going to break out.

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Speaker 1: It's a Harvey link.

495
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Speaker 2: It's obvious.

496
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Speaker 6: But I'm going to take Ed Langman.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to say he's going to start playing more

498
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Speaker 7: mid time and then he's going to get mid numbers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a few breakout players. I think they will come

500
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Speaker 9: on the scene, like an Elijah Artists would be a

501
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Speaker 9: good pick up if you're playing super coach. I think

502
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Speaker 9: Sam Darren will go to a new level as well,

503
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Speaker 9: so he'll score heavily, be very impactful and first year

504
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Speaker 9: izaur CaCO as well. I think he'll be really fun

505
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Speaker 9: to watch and I think if you've got him in

506
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Speaker 9: your team, you'll love some of the goals he kicks.

507
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Speaker 1: That's tough fun.

508
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Speaker 8: I think Tom Brown will have a good year down back.

509
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Speaker 1: Sam Banks is another one.

510
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Speaker 6: I think he has had a really strong preseason.

511
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Speaker 4: Ty gallup forward option something a bit different.

512
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Speaker 5: Obviously, Levi was the obvious answer for everyone, but I'll

513
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Speaker 5: go with Tye and Will.

514
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Speaker 2: Will Lashcroft will spend a lot of time in the midfield.

515
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Speaker 7: I think Maddie Johnson has a chance to break out.

516
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Speaker 7: Corey Wagner as well in the half back line. I

517
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Speaker 7: think he can so many spot the team and yeah,

518
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Speaker 7: to be your half back and get a few get

519
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Speaker 7: a few chief stats.

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Speaker 1: I reckon Joe Berry like a rookie.

521
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Speaker 4: Rookie pick good value.

522
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Speaker 9: I reckon I reckon days he can get up to

523
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Speaker 9: the nine hundred k mark.

524
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Speaker 5: I reckon Josh Goda when he gets back from his

525
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Speaker 5: hamstring injury.

526
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Speaker 9: I think, although we've seen some very good signs of

527
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Speaker 9: him early, the siwang Na Milia is probably probably.

528
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Speaker 1: The one that I would keep an eye on.

529
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Speaker 9: He's, yeah, just just hot at the moment, and he's

530
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Speaker 9: in for a big year.

531
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Speaker 1: There you go, some great mail. Yeah, I didn't know

532
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Speaker 1: anything about that before, I said Joe Fregent might be

533
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Speaker 1: a chance to break out for the.

534
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Speaker 2: Bulldogs, but don't be chilling none of that.

535
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Speaker 1: I think we said article two days ago Will.

536
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Speaker 2: Dane nine hundred k is incredible from the cist Dog.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, get on, that's money we don't want to miss

538
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Speaker 1: out on. But now into what the show is really about,

539
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Speaker 1: which is your questions. And as I said, there's been

540
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Speaker 1: plenty of those with all the carnage and news that's

541
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Speaker 1: been happening during the week. So we'll run through them

542
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Speaker 1: as quickly as we can and try and get as

543
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Speaker 1: many answers as possible, but follow the super coach accounts

544
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Speaker 1: on socials to answer and mine account. I suppose that

545
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Speaker 1: you can follow me to it at all underscore super

546
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Speaker 1: forty to get your questions in for next week and

547
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Speaker 1: as we go throughout the season. But we'll just go

548
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Speaker 1: round the table start with you Patch. We're talking about

549
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Speaker 1: backline uncertainty and maybe looking for someone who's a bit

550
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Speaker 1: cheap but can score. Okay, someone's yes, looking at the

551
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Speaker 1: challenge with backline rookies, would you pick someone with certainty

552
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Speaker 1: in their role?

553
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Speaker 5: No.

554
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Speaker 1: Vest Best twenty two e g. Wayne Miller at two

555
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four K.

556
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Speaker 2: I I don't like Glad. It's just such a weird

557
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Speaker 2: dead zone where you're not going to make an awful

558
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Speaker 2: lot of cash at two hundred and fifty k. And

559
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Speaker 2: I would either rather have a rookie or like a

560
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Speaker 2: genuine price he spoke about some before with l Mills,

561
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Speaker 2: and well not meals anymore, but like a Perriman Frasier Weddle,

562
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Speaker 2: so like someone in that ILK i'd rather go to

563
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Speaker 2: instead of a two hundred and fifty K guy who

564
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Speaker 2: might average like seventy if you're lucky like it. Just

565
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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan, and I think the rookies

566
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Speaker 2: are slowly coming along. We've got Prior, we've got bo

567
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Speaker 2: Allen Zacharied. I'm really keen to see if Caleb Smith

568
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Speaker 2: can get a run. I'm not as worried about the

569
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Speaker 2: backlaning rookies as some others are. I think there's there's

570
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Speaker 2: still possibly some juice to squeeze out of that lemon

571
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Speaker 2: down back. So I think we hold fire and we

572
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Speaker 2: don't quite panic just yet. And look at a two

573
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty K guy just yet. I think you

574
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Speaker 2: try and go above that or below that. And I

575
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Speaker 2: think it's that weird dead zone.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's you know, we get a little

577
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Speaker 1: bit spoiled by the some of the rookies that are

578
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Speaker 1: available this year that we hope we're going to score

579
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Speaker 1: really well. But you know, every year in Super Coach,

580
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Speaker 1: you've got to start a couple of guys on the field.

581
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Speaker 1: He might only score sixties, and if you do that,

582
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Speaker 1: you know we're picking a bo Allen or a Zach

583
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Speaker 1: Reid or something. In defense, they're solid scores every week.

584
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Speaker 2: Sixty years fine, Yeah, sixty years fine.

585
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Speaker 1: Especially if it's only you know, for the first few round,

586
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Speaker 1: especially when I'm the best SAT, and you know those

587
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: are probably drop off anyway. So yeah, I wouldn't be

588
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: getting pannextations just yet. Chloe, this was an interesting one.

589
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Speaker 1: Would you take Gorne and Cherr or will Day and English?

590
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

591
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Speaker 5: This question it really haunted me because there are all

592
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Speaker 5: players that I've looked.

593
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Speaker 4: At and at the moment, three of them are in

594
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Speaker 4: my team.

595
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Speaker 5: The one who is not in my team is Tim English,

596
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Speaker 5: who I'm very much considering bringing into my team. So

597
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Speaker 5: I think they are all good options in terms of

598
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Speaker 5: those exact pairings. Gorne in Chera or Will Dane English. Look,

599
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Speaker 5: it's just such a difficult question because I would like

600
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Speaker 5: to have all of them, as I just said, but English,

601
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Speaker 5: I think, yes, he's had a bit of a hinted

602
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Speaker 5: preseason this year with that ab injury, but I still

603
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Speaker 5: think he's going to have a pretty good year. So

604
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Speaker 5: you've got that, You've got the uncapped potential of will Day,

605
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Speaker 5: he could finally average over one hundred this year.

606
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Speaker 4: But then at the same time you've got Gorne.

607
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Speaker 5: Just as he said at Captain's Day, he's one of

608
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Speaker 5: the best super coach picks of the last ten years,

609
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Speaker 5: he said to himself, So you can't ignore that, averaging

610
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Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty four last year. And then Adam Chera,

611
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Speaker 5: who we all know can have quite a high ceiling,

612
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Speaker 5: did average one hundred and eight.

613
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Speaker 1: We need an answer, We do need an answer.

614
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Speaker 5: I think I'd have to go gone and chaer it

615
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Speaker 5: just for the safety of it. But it's hard, it's difficult.

616
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Speaker 4: What about you.

617
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think i'd pick those two as well. Just

618
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Speaker 1: I think Gorne has got a pretty good margin on English,

619
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Speaker 1: and then the other two I think, yeah, it could

620
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Speaker 1: both be good sort of sub premium I guess kind

621
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Speaker 1: of picks, I mean Timmy and where do you think

622
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Speaker 1: Cherr is That we haven't heard much about him for

623
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Speaker 1: a little while, but I know a few people who

624
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Speaker 1: are definitely can on him early in the preseason. And

625
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Speaker 1: then you can take the next question as well, which

626
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Speaker 1: is if you had one mid spot left, would you

627
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Speaker 1: take Hugo Garcia or no being I think Nathan and driscol.

628
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Speaker 3: I don't think Chair is a bad pick, but I

629
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Speaker 3: think Will Dave's a great pick. From round ten to

630
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Speaker 3: twenty last year, Will Day averaged one hundred and fourteen

631
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Speaker 3: and then he dropped off in those last three games.

632
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Speaker 3: I think he got tagged in one, got hurt in another,

633
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Speaker 3: and he was playing injured in another one of those

634
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Speaker 3: games before he sort of finally called time and his season.

635
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Speaker 3: Or he might have come back in finals, but certainly

636
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Speaker 3: on his super coach season. So yeah, I think I

637
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Speaker 3: think Will Day, out of that group of guy apart

638
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Speaker 3: from Clayton Oliver, is sort of the second best of

639
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Speaker 3: those four hundred to five hundred K guys that could

640
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Speaker 3: potentially be season keepers. So if I could get Will Day,

641
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Speaker 3: and if it meant going Tim English over Maxcorn, I

642
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: would do that. I think Nathan O'driskill's quite clearly one

643
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Speaker 3: of the best elevated price rookies this year, and for

644
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Speaker 3: the extra fifty K you can save, I'd be pretty

645
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Speaker 3: happy taking him over Hugo Garcia if it was out

646
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Speaker 3: of those two. Looks like he's in Frio's best team.

647
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Speaker 3: It's got a pretty nice role playing on the wing.

648
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: And plenty of people have been throwing up his Waffle

649
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: Finals numbers.

650
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Speaker 6: I don't take as much notice of that.

651
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Speaker 3: But he moved really well against the Indigenous All Stars,

652
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Speaker 3: and again I don't really care about what the scores

653
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Speaker 3: were in that game because there was about eighty six

654
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Speaker 3: players that took the field, but he did score quite

655
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: well in that game as well. But more than anything, yeah,

656
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: he moved really well and seems to be over some

657
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 3: of those issues that he had that limited him last year.

658
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: So one hundred ninety eight K. I don't think he

659
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 6: can go wrong.

660
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: He's a pretty easy M seven M eight option if

661
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: you can get him that deep in your midfield.

662
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't mind that at all. If someone's directed a

663
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: question and me riddled me this ol, I thought they

664
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: was gonna ask about is it aiden riddle for you?

665
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: But the question is, actually, is Jordan Ridley over his

666
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: preseason injury and is he a viable option down back? Well,

667
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: I guess he is because he played last night and

668
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: he scored over one hundred Super Coach points, so that

669
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: sort of ticks the first one off. And I must

670
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: have met When I saw him, I thought, oh yeah,

671
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about him, and I am in

672
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: the market for maybe you know, my back line's a

673
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: bit of a shambles at the moment, but you know,

674
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: still not one hundred percent sure he's going to fill

675
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: those D two, D three slots. But then I remembered

676
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: picking Jordan Ridley in the past and it's gone spectacularly

677
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: pair shaped more than once. You know, no question that

678
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: he can score, but his body is obviously extremely unreliable,

679
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: so I'm going to stay away. But perhas would you

680
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: took me out of it?

681
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 7: No?

682
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: I think the body issue is one that ess and

683
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: it's very aware of as well. So if he does,

684
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think they'll be afraid to give

685
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: him a week off or two weeks off if he

686
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: needs it, even preemptively, just because he's so important to

687
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: our side, and also we're not playing finals. This year,

688
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: so it's not like we need sure. The last night,

689
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: I think I found the lid. I found the lid

690
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: in the last twenty minutes.

691
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 6: Can I throw that in? I'll put Ridley in. I

692
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 6: really like it.

693
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: I just I just think he's just such a super

694
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: He's just a gun at supercoach, kick ins, intercept marks.

695
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: Played sixty nine percent game time against the Cats, and

696
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: he scored BET one hundred and ten ranking points. But

697
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: he doesn't your targets. It just takes just about every box.

698
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: I wish he was about fifty k cheaper, like five

699
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: fifty k. I don't love like I thought he might

700
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: have been around that five twenty five thirty K mark.

701
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: But the thing that is sort of deterring me from

702
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: going through with it is the fact that I've also

703
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: got Prior and Zach Reid tentatively in my back line

704
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 3: as well, and Essen's got one of those early buys.

705
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was about to seen some of those weeks,

706
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: and yeah, if I'm trying to fit Prior, I Read

707
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: and Ridley into a back line, I can see. I

708
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: think it's around four. Essendon has the week off, and

709
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: even though it's only two teams, I can see that

710
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: getting real tough, real quickly if three of my defenders

711
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: are missing the same boy.

712
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to segue that into the next

713
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: question at risk of like jumping in front of ol

714
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: like the how many black primos of keepers per round

715
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: can miss the early buye And I think it does

716
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: depend on how many other players you've got, because you know,

717
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: looking at you know, Essendon, we've spoken about five rookies.

718
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's almost early Gold Coast tow West days

719
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: where you just pack your side with rookies from one

720
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: team and then you've got to figure out how to

721
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: cover them in the bye. And then if you're going

722
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: with Will Day, they know and Hawthorne share that by

723
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Zach Merritt is also still a relatively he hasn't really

724
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: left my side all pre season. But now I'm starting

725
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: to look at it and go, well, if I'm missing

726
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: Zach Merritt and Will Day and I'm missing five from

727
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: my rookies, you know that's now down to what twenty

728
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: which best eighteen? I'd still have a full side. But

729
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: if I'm missing you know, to two premiums and then too,

730
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, Sardest would hopefully be a highest sco scoring rookie,

731
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, is that then enough of a hit? And

732
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: I think it does depend in terms of how many

733
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: primos you're missing. It does depend on how many rookies

734
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: you have as well, and how many you're missing in total.

735
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: So I think if you've got one, absolutely no issue.

736
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: If you've got two and they're on different lines, I

737
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: think that's absolutely fine. Once you start getting towards three

738
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: rookie three primos or two primos and a bunch of rookies,

739
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: then I think you've really got to start thinking how

740
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: much is this going to impact my score? How much

741
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: for this change? You know, hunting for rank, If you're

742
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: playing league, it doesn't matter. Just just go go with

743
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: your gut if you're just looking to beat your mates

744
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: in the office. But I think from if you're looking

745
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: at ranking and scoring as much as possible, I think

746
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: that's right Land where that that round four by is

747
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: suddenly becoming far more troublesome than the round three by

748
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: we're expecting to be an issue, because yeah, if you

749
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: have the guys to cover those primos with decent scores,

750
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: then that becomes the spot where I think you really

751
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: take the hit as opposed to missing just you're just

752
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: missing Baally Smith and Harry Perriman for example. You're probably

753
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: going to be fine.

754
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Now we're talking about a

755
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: round three by Callum Mills was one that was causing

756
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: maybe some headaches there, but now he's out, and question

757
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: with meals out, who is a good replacement that's not

758
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: a rookie throwing up names like Max Holmes obviously a

759
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: little bit more expensive, or at Trent Rivers at Melbourne?

760
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Are they viable options or is there anybody else I

761
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: suppose in that well, I mean if you could throw

762
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: up get up to another Primo or that sort of

763
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: five hundred k range, but maybe above say four hundred.

764
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: We mentioned a couple of names in those smokies, but

765
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: anyone else you like that?

766
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 9: Tim?

767
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: What do you think of Rivers as a midfielder at

768
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: the D's Now?

769
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: I really like Trent Rivers. He's even like the Josh

770
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: Warrel sort of bag for me. I just I don't

771
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: know why. He's one of those guys that I've always

772
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: watched and just thought there's something about this bloke like

773
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: he's I didn't think necessarily that he was going to

774
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: transition into the Melbourne midfield and become a boney fighting midfielder.

775
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: But I thought even at half back he just yeah,

776
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: there was just something about him that I really liked.

777
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: So I think he's a really good value. The issue

778
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: being that he's a defender in a stacked defensive class

779
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: in Super Coach this year, Like, I don't feel like

780
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: defenses somewhere where we necessarily need to go digging for

781
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: value options too much, because there's some pretty clear I

782
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: think it's sort of like the first twelve, thirteen, fourteen

783
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: maybe that you think the top six is going to

784
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: come from, and then after that it probably falls away

785
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: to the next bracket you think Rivers is.

786
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 6: Maybe in that camp.

787
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: Is he good value, Yes, but there's probably guys like

788
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Joel Frezier that you flagged earlier that might score similarly

789
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: at least early in the season, that are.

790
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 6: One hundred k cheapest.

791
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: So I'd probably be looking for a bit more value there,

792
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: even if you wanted to go further down. If aishaw

793
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: and maker, if he does find his way into some

794
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: killed his team early on in the season, he's a

795
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: type of guy that might make you some cash and

796
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: score just as well as the Rivers type, So they're the.

797
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 6: Sort of guys I'm looking at.

798
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: I just wanted to back over the early buys as well,

799
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: because I'm going to play Devil's advocate. I think we're

800
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: making way too big a deal of them. Like I

801
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: just think best eighteen early on. If you're picking these rookies,

802
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: like like LIKEO Dres school types that are on fear

803
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: likely by Ashcroft, that you think is going to play

804
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: most weeks, fielding eighteen is not going to be that hard,

805
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: like perhaps said eighteen of twenty four, Like that's six

806
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: scores that you're dropping. Like if you're losing five or

807
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: six guys one week, unless they're all premiums, it's really

808
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: not that big a deal. So I think people don't

809
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: need to take as much notice of the early buys

810
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: apart from the round three to one when there's like

811
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: four teams missing. I think apart from that, I wouldn't

812
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: let the early buys sort of sway you're thinking too much.

813
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: And yes, if you're fifty to fifty between picking a

814
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: guy that doesn't have a buy and picking one that

815
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: does have one, you're always going to go for, say

816
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: a Bond to Pali over Dekos because you get that extra.

817
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 6: Score out an early on in the season.

818
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: But if you're tossing up Harry Perryman and whether you're

819
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: going to put him into your team or not, I

820
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't let the buy be the decisive the deciding factor

821
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: as to whether you pick Periyman or not. I think

822
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 3: you're still going to be able to field to eighteen

823
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: pretty comfortably.

824
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I quite like Perim and I think he's a

825
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: decent shower with Chloe. Have you worried about the early

826
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: buys at all? In your millions of different iterations of

827
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: your team?

828
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 4: I started to get.

829
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 5: A little bit worried about buys when I had had

830
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 5: thought about it not at all, and I had a

831
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 5: team full of people on the early buys. But no,

832
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: I would agree with Tim there, especially when you forecast

833
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: to the later buys as well. I just think so

834
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 5: those ones you know, your team could look completely different.

835
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: But in terms of the early buys, I would tend

836
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: to lean on the.

837
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: Side of of what Tim said, and that's just you know,

838
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 5: you still get some good scores, so I wouldn't stress

839
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 5: about it too much. If you're really interested in a player,

840
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 5: I would say go for it. But obviously check your

841
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 5: team balance first.

842
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, but like if you're picking, so if you're

843
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: picking like Sam Davison or if you're picking Kaco and

844
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: then you're worried about them not being there in round

845
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: three to potentially be part of your best eighteen, Like

846
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: why you're picking. You want rookies that are going to

847
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: be in the team for at least a month.

848
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 6: You'd think.

849
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: I know that they can be volatile, they might be

850
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: managed one week, but a lot of these guys that

851
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: we're picking, we're picking because we think they're like a

852
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: CaCO is going to be best twenty three most weeks.

853
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: So I think when you're ticking off, you're eighteen and going, okay,

854
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: do I have twenty this week? So I've got some insurance.

855
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: You'd want to be factoring in those rookies early in

856
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: the season. It's that period after we get through those

857
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: early buys, like you're talking round seven, round eight, when

858
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: they might start to get managed or they're out of

859
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: the team because their forms dropped off a little bit

860
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: and they're getting tired. So yeah, I just think we're

861
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: making way too much of these early buyes.

862
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 6: Might come back to bite me.

863
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't let it be too big a factor

864
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: in my sort of final makeup of my team.

865
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 9: Yeah.

866
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think last year, when I was choosing my rookies,

867
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 5: I did probably maybe consider it a bit, consider it

868
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: a bit too much. And then after you pass through

869
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 5: that period, you do get left with some rookies who

870
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 5: maybe they're cash and isn't the greatest, Maybe their role

871
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 5: isn't as secure as someone you would have picked if

872
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 5: you weren't stressing over it.

873
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I would agree.

874
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Purchase Christians got you written all over it. We've already

875
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: mentioned Will Day and we're fans of him, but someone's asked,

876
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: would you pick him or Dylan Shield similarly priced but

877
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: can only have one?

878
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: I would pick literally any other player in the competition

879
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: over Dylan Shield. Come on, Livingston, come on down.

880
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: That is one of the most disgusting questions I've ever.

881
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: Thought, Will What did you make of Dylan's game? Oh,

882
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: he had plenty of the ball there.

883
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: At l I wish he hadn't, certainly wish he hadn't

884
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: had much of the ball.

885
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: Did from close to thirty disposals like that?

886
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Is?

887
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 2: Ye, Like I thought Nick Martin was frustrating last year.

888
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: Dylan like it's I mean, he's mid only he has

889
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: an early buy. I think if if it's real, which

890
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: it is, I don't think it is, and you can

891
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: clip that, we'll just sort it out out of the by.

892
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: He won't be too expensive if if he's a must

893
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: have or wait after the bye, wait for DPPs to happen,

894
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, round six, then sure. If Dylan shields must have,

895
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: then you know I'll I'll scream into the void and

896
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: then pick him. Like, but don't make me think about

897
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: picking him now, Just don't.

898
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: Don't.

899
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 6: You're being a buster.

900
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: He's not happening. He's not going to be must have

901
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: in defense, He's not going to be a must have

902
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: as a midfielder. Doesn't kick the ball well enough to

903
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: be super coach elevant.

904
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: Yep, agreed. And will Day is getting nine hundred k.

905
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: We heard it from his captain himself, like.

906
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't think Dylan can get there.

907
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, didn't hear Zach Merritt talking up Dylan Shiel

908
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: as a smoky super coach pick. So says it all plays.

909
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: So no players ever hit eight hundred k, but will

910
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: Day he's going nine hundred k this year.

911
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, absolutely, I think it is.

912
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 6: The average about one hundred and eighty from round one.

913
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's more of a chance in Dylan Sharley.

914
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Cloak. Can you keep track of all we went through

915
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: the two names comparing before. We've got three here for

916
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: we so if you can remember this, you've got Clark,

917
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Homes and Sicily. So we're talking defense and I'm guessing

918
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: this is Jordan Clark, Max Holmes and Sicily or Harry Cheesel,

919
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Tom Stewart and Kolby Mkircher. Do you have a preference

920
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: of those three packs?

921
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 5: If I just go on gut feel, I would say

922
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 5: the first option. But when I run through my team

923
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 5: and I'm looking at the people who I have as

924
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 5: locks in each line, Harry Cheesel is probably my number one,

925
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: so I hate to leave him off by the wayside there.

926
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 5: But I just like the sound of that first group

927
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 5: of players. Not that I have any of them in

928
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 5: my team at the moment, but I like that group

929
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: of players. It's very interesting. I just don't know how

930
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 5: much money you'd really have left for some other people

931
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: around good team if you've got Clark, Holmes and Cicily.

932
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 4: But I don't know. It's interesting.

933
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 2: What did we make of Max Holmes because he's it's

934
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: his midfield this year, but I kind of expect him

935
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: to have a bit more of a say on the game.

936
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: And Stampy's himself down a bit, right. I only Montaney

937
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 2: spoke about, you know, you don't get too worried about

938
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: guys not you know, not scoring well in preseason games.

939
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: But like what did we think?

940
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: Well, personally, I wasn't too concerned.

941
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: I just probably had that mindset of, yeah, it is

942
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: just a bit of a preseason game, So I personally

943
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: don't have too many doubts about the levels that he

944
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 5: may be able to go to this year. Have averaged

945
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: about ninety nine I think it was last year, So

946
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: I think he's pretty well poised to go above that

947
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: just due to natural progression.

948
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 4: And then also yeah, just taking charge of that.

949
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 2: Not worried by a fifty one? Are we? Tim?

950
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: No, couldn't care less patch preseason games up against the

951
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: mighte e.

952
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 6: Elijah s Artists. Not going to get any matchups than

953
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 6: Sartis this year.

954
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, again, we don't want to overreat preseason matches.

955
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: But one guy on that list, it actually quite like

956
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: watching him last night was Tom Stewart. I think he

957
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: sort of just dropped it right off the radar. I

958
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: think Dan Badden mentioned him in one of about preseason shows

959
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: as a bit of a pod because everyone's forgotten about him.

960
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: He got some heavy attention last year and then maybe

961
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: moved into the midfield for a while, but now it's

962
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: sem he's just back in defense taking kick ins. They

963
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: didn't weren't a lot of kickings on offer in that game,

964
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think he took at least one of them.

965
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: There were two kickings off, so yeah.

966
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: You think you might get more of those during the season.

967
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, that round three buy is really annoying

968
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: because his prices were in the five to twenty.

969
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: K twenty one K. Yeah, it is very tasty.

970
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think now that he's got that extra

971
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: string to his bow that he can go into the

972
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: midfield if they want to use him there, or maybe

973
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: to shake a tag or something.

974
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would expect him to as well.

975
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there go Roll, But fully expect him to

976
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: go back to that sort of one O five, one

977
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: ten maybe as.

978
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: Soon as he starts to dominate games. He's just going

979
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: to get tagged now. I think teams saw team saw

980
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: how susceptible he is to a tag. As soon as

981
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 3: someone went and sat on him here that got angry

982
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: and started taking his frustration out on his tager or

983
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: he just went completely out of the game and had

984
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: to go in like Brad Sorry Chris Scott had to

985
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: come up with something to shake that tag and eventually

986
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: it was throwing him in the midfield, which worked quite well.

987
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's going to be top eight again.

988
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: I think those days of Stewie being a sort of

989
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: top eight defender of past us and I might be

990
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: wrong there, but yeah, I just can't see it happening.

991
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: He's got some killed around too, so I would think

992
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: Mitch Owen's probably gonna go sit on him and annoy

993
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 3: him as he has done in the past. So yes,

994
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: he might get a few more kick ins, but I think, yeah,

995
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: I don't think Stewey's going to be that sort of

996
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: top echelon of defenders this year. Can I can I

997
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: back over again, Harry Sheesel, because I'm trying to find

998
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: like I know that we all sit here at this

999
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: time of preseason and try to pick holes in like

1000
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: the top line of premiums and go all right, find

1001
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: me some reasons that I'm not going to pick this guy,

1002
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: But like, is there a genuine case to leave him

1003
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: out because we're paying I think for an average of

1004
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen, which is probably around like he

1005
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: might finish around there, so like, but you're paying absolute

1006
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: top dollar from the start for him, whereas there's so

1007
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: many sort of good options in that five point fifty

1008
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 3: to six hundred K bracket. Like I'm working too hard

1009
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: to find reasons not to pick Sheese. Should I just

1010
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: pay up? Or that I could go someone like a

1011
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: I don't know Jordan Clark, for example, that doesn't have

1012
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: an early buy and go, Okay, he might average ten

1013
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: less than Cheesel, but where I spend that extra money

1014
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: might make all the difference.

1015
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 6: And I can get Cheesel for less than six hundred

1016
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 6: K at some.

1017
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 5: Point, unless you can't get him for less than six

1018
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: hundred I think he's a player that I'm going to

1019
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 5: want in my finished team. I think I'm not the

1020
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 5: price isn't too outrageous that I'm not willing to pay it,

1021
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 5: and you know he's Harry Cheese. What more can I say?

1022
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 4: Really?

1023
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'd be a very risky move to

1024
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: leave him out, even I'd probably leave Bond out before

1025
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Cheesel because I just think there's some you know, he's

1026
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: much more expensive, and there's other midfielder is that you

1027
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: could argue could get within you know, a few points

1028
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: of him. But yeah, I think Chesel's a pretty clear

1029
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: standout in the back line. And last year, I think

1030
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: it was one hundred and thirty was his overage in

1031
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: the last four games when he played that sort of

1032
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: hybrid mid forward role, which is probably what he's going

1033
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: to do this year. So yeah, I think he can

1034
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: go to another level again, and yeah, be pretty it

1035
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a lot of fun watching that if you

1036
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: didn't have him in Super Coach and everybody else did.

1037
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: I think if you compare him to a Bond as well,

1038
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: like Bond will probably just continue to pump out the

1039
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 5: numbers he always has, maybe he would get better, maybe

1040
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 5: he would get out get a little bit worse. Sorry,

1041
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: but yeah, she's was on that arc of just getting

1042
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 5: better in my opinion, So I wouldn't be personally willing

1043
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 5: to take that risk.

1044
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: A question or an answer I can answer very quickly

1045
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: here asking about we a chance to see Brodie Grundy

1046
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: return to his best this season with his injury news today,

1047
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Unfortunately it sounds like probably not. I don't hate the

1048
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: thought of it though we know he has been sort

1049
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: of a one hundred and ten gay in the past.

1050
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for someone in the ruck, but yeah,

1051
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: probably not going to be him after this.

1052
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it certainly could be. If if it's just

1053
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: a little no.

1054
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: Well that's uar. I mean, yeah, we don't know how

1055
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: bad it is.

1056
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: You know, if he's limping from the field, I think

1057
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: that's generally a better sign than him being carried off

1058
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: or hobbling off or yeah, I think, yeah, I don't know.

1059
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: I still think if.

1060
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 6: You're skipping away five three kicks a game, yeah, I.

1061
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: Think if you're paying up in the ruck, if you're

1062
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: paying up in the ruck, you're going either Gorne or

1063
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: Cherry or tom Da Kooning or maybe like maybe a

1064
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Lloyd Meek or something like. I just don't think that.

1065
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: Just don't play funny buggers in the ruck. Just set

1066
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: say it with me, folks, Set and forget. Don't worry, Like,

1067
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: just don't knock around in the rucks. It's not fun.

1068
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 2: It's never paid off for anyone. Don't do it.

1069
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: Don't do it, Patria, while you're ranting another Christian on

1070
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the defense, just pick Cicily or Bailey Dale. Well, we're

1071
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: assuming Baile Dell's feeding.

1072
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: This Billy Dale. I'm just worried about Yeah, I'm just

1073
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: worried about Cecily maybe being thrown forward, maybe just having

1074
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: a kind of undefined role. I just don't I just

1075
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: don't have a good feeling about James Cicily, and I

1076
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 2: can't quite put my finger on why, even though plays

1077
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: in sleeves, big big wraps for that, But I'm just

1078
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of without a really defined role. I think there's

1079
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: kind of a danger that maybe he he ends up

1080
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: forward depending on matchups, and Hardwick goes back or someone

1081
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: else goes back. And I know, I'm not particularly interested

1082
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: at this stage unless we see something clearly defined.

1083
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not eve much team right now. He has

1084
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: been for decent chunks of the preseason. The price I

1085
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: just find very tempting. There are others that rather that

1086
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: would make me nervous.

1087
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys you've got to catch at

1088
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: the right time, Like he's going to have a month

1089
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 3: where he averages one hundred and thirty when barrass goes

1090
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: down for a month with some of the issues that

1091
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: he's had in the past or something, and an opportunity

1092
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 3: opens up to like Carl aim On misses a few

1093
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: games and he just takes twelve kick eats a game.

1094
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: But it's just going to be about timing, I think

1095
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: with him and getting on at the right time, as

1096
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: opposed to he could also miss a month starting with him,

1097
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 3: So well, yes, I think if.

1098
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: You're looking for consistency, he might not be the man.

1099
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: No, he's the type of guy that could score one

1100
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: seventy one week and then see Micha goes okay, we

1101
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: need an extra forward option because things just aren't working

1102
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: down the end of the ground, and then he scored

1103
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: sixty the next week. So I think it would be

1104
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: a real rollercoaster. You'd enjoy the good weeks, but there'd

1105
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: be some pretty bad ones as well.

1106
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: And we just touched on the bond. So someone's actually

1107
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: asked about that, saying that the dogs have a tough

1108
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: start to the year and he might lose some cash.

1109
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: And the question is is there a case to start

1110
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: either day who we have talked about we really like

1111
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: or kind of Rosie who I can both see rising

1112
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: in value in the early rounds and close the gap,

1113
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: maybe able to swap it to Bond before the mid

1114
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: season buys. Tim, we were talking about Rosie offline over

1115
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of days. What do you think of

1116
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: that one?

1117
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I brought him in last year. I

1118
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: think I've burned my last trade actually when he got

1119
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: down to about four hundred K and I just thought

1120
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: like this is too good to be true, and he

1121
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: was okay, Like he didn't set the world on fire,

1122
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: but like, he really needs to go big early in

1123
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: the season, doesn't. He no buds for probably a couple

1124
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: of weeks at least, so he's going to get bulk

1125
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: midfield time.

1126
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 6: He's the captain all Richmond round.

1127
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: So there's such a spotlight on Port Adelaide with that handover,

1128
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: wanting to make sure it goes right and Ken Hinckley

1129
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: coming out and saying we won't go down in the

1130
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: history of dud handovers like Collingwood and all these other

1131
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: ones that exploded.

1132
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 6: So I think there's so.

1133
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Much focus on Port Adelaide that yeah, he's going to

1134
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: want to prove a point, and yeah, he's definitely one

1135
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: of those guys that you think, so he's one hundred

1136
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 3: and fifty k cheaper than Bond, that's a pretty significant

1137
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: difference that if you banked one hundred and fifty k,

1138
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: you could go from like, let's say, had Jackson Pryor

1139
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: on field and he didn't get named around one for us,

1140
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: and then suddenly you've got a bit over three hundred

1141
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: k to spend and you can look at some more

1142
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: of those mid price options that we've already talked about.

1143
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's a really interesting discussion, and

1144
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 3: I think Rosie could explode. Yeah, Richmond's are obviously a

1145
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: matchup that we're going to target this year. And as

1146
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: much as they tried to use Seth Campbell I think

1147
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: as a tagger late last year at different times as well,

1148
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: like who knows if that's going to eventuate when the

1149
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: Tigers have got their full midfield there with Hopper in

1150
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: Toronto and a few others. So leaving BoNT out would

1151
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: make me incredibly nervous. But then the same time, I

1152
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: think history tells us that just about every player gets

1153
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: down to about six hundred K that starts over six

1154
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 3: hundred k, So at some point in the season, you're

1155
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: going to get Bond fifty to eighty K cheaper, but

1156
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: just as easily saying that he could come out and

1157
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: average one hundred and thirty for the first six weeks

1158
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,720
Speaker 3: and make you look pretty silly.

1159
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: So the cheapest Marcus bond apparently got last on twenty

1160
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty two K.

1161
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, So is the bond pain worth it to save

1162
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 6: forty eight K? Probably not.

1163
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: I have a solution, which is how my team's set

1164
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: up at the moment, and that's her Bond and Rosie.

1165
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: Why not.

1166
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 5: I know it's not that easy, but that's what I

1167
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 5: have at the moment, because I still think there's so

1168
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 5: much value in Rosy. I definitely think that, you know,

1169
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: he had a couple of niggles last year, more than

1170
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 5: his best year. I think that he's definitely underpriced, But

1171
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 5: I also think that Bond is a bit of a

1172
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 5: must have.

1173
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: I understand the money cycle, and you may be able to.

1174
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: Get him a bit cheaper, but it's like the same

1175
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 5: thing that I said with Cheesel. I think that Bond

1176
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: is a bit less racy than Cheesel. But I've put

1177
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: myself in that position before where I've tried to fade

1178
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 5: someone with some big mathematical equation of when I bring

1179
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 5: them in and then other people get injured and I

1180
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 5: just am not able to get them back in.

1181
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: So dogs and dogs I still rates.

1182
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 3: As well, So dogs don't have an early buy, so

1183
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: you're getting an extra score out of him. And I

1184
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: don't know about this hard early draw. They've got North

1185
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: Melbourne around one, so yeah, like North are improving a

1186
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 3: little bit, but it is the hard and that's a thing.

1187
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: Like I saw people trying to justify leaving out Tristan Cherry. Oh,

1188
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: they've got they've got a hard early draw, Like this

1189
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 3: guy was far and away the best Rockmanion supercoach. Yeah,

1190
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: and when I say people, certain people that have left

1191
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: Jackson or Farantis out of their team are the ones

1192
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: that I'm referring to, like just trying too hard to

1193
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: probably like me and Cheese, trying too hard to find

1194
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: reasons to justify leaving out these top premiums for the

1195
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: next line. But apparently kind of Rosie has made his

1196
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 3: way into my team as well, Chloe.

1197
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 6: Just having looks so.

1198
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: Well to trade him out.

1199
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: I know, I think there's I think you make a

1200
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: really good point that there's there's guys in that bracket

1201
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: all like he, I like Dawson, and I like will

1202
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 3: Day as sort of three in that five point fifty

1203
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: to four ninety k range that could potentially be top

1204
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: eight come the end of the season. So that's why

1205
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: I've got them at the moment. But I need them

1206
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: to score as well as Zach Merritt to justify going

1207
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: down that path from the get go. So whether I'm

1208
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: confident enough that'll happen, we'll wait and see.

1209
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a really good, good discussion point. We

1210
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: can maybe revisit that in a week or so, but

1211
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: maybe I'll take this one. Giveing a mentions ago you

1212
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: just touched on. As we get towards the end, a

1213
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: couple more questions question pick the horny man that's Jason

1214
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: horn Francis or Sanders and redistribute the cash in the

1215
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: back half, or pick an extra midrookie, keep the horny

1216
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: man and no Petling. So my opinion on Jason or

1217
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: Francis has been fairly well documented on this channel, especially

1218
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: if you're listening to the fantoms Layer at the moment.

1219
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: He's not in my team. I'm not saying I'm never

1220
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: going to pick him and let's just see port a laid.

1221
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: But especially with Zach Butter's out, you know, when is

1222
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: he fit in the midfield. I think it's going to

1223
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: be very hard to maintain this stance all the way

1224
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: through to around one. But we'll see how we go.

1225
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: But I do think he's gonna have a great year.

1226
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: He looks absolutely and unbelievable Nick, So yeah, that's getting

1227
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: harder and arder to hold on with that one. But

1228
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: Peeling is the one that I am starting to question

1229
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, just because because I was looking at

1230
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: like you mentioned Dawson there, Tim, and I'm with you

1231
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: on that that I think he's under priced and could

1232
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: be a great pick this year. But then I'm thinking, well,

1233
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: they've got heaps of midfielders in there. You know, Matt

1234
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: Crouch is still hanging around. You know, Dawson's always a

1235
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: chance to get thrown out to the wing or you know,

1236
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: pushed somewhere else. And then if he's no guarantee to

1237
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: get cbas can we rely on Peeling coming in. We've

1238
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: sort of looked basing some of our predictions on his

1239
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: stats at the Giants or when they gave him all

1240
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: these cbas. He scored really well, but I'm not sure

1241
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: exactly where he fits into that mix at Adelaide. I

1242
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: think you'll probably play more half forward. I think he'll

1243
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: still go well, you know, he's apparently flying in the

1244
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: pre season, you know, laying all these tackles looks amazing.

1245
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: But you know, will he sort of average one hundred?

1246
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: I think he's probably more like ninety, you know, so

1247
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: he's probably in the seventies. He averages ninety. That's good,

1248
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: but is it enough to justify a spot? And then

1249
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: I think, could I pick you know, an O Driskll

1250
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: or somebody in that spot save one hundred and fifty

1251
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: grand and that you know, that gives me money to

1252
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: spend somewhere else. So that's one doesn't really directly edswer

1253
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: the question, but that that is something I'm toying with

1254
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: at the moment. Perhats, I know Peeling's been a favorite

1255
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: of yours for a while. Am I getting too nervous

1256
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: about nothing?

1257
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 9: Or what?

1258
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Do you think?

1259
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: I absolutely love Jams Peeling and I think he's fantastic.

1260
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: He's been in my side for all of five minutes

1261
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: this preseason. He just doesn't fit the price structure I

1262
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: want to go with just doesn't quite fill a role

1263
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: of being like he won't be a keeper. He's not

1264
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: a rookie, ye, he's that mid the price stepping stone,

1265
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: And at this stage, like I've got two of those

1266
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: in my side, and they're called Clayton Oliver and Will Day,

1267
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: I just can't. I can't fit him in and I

1268
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 2: can't pick him ahead of those guys I don't want.

1269
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 2: Like it's just he's in again that weird Noma land

1270
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: that we're dead zone where you know, maybe he averages

1271
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: one hundred and maybe you know, he's a fantastic peak,

1272
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: but the way I'm set up at the moment doesn't

1273
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: really certain you know, doesn't really allow for that. And

1274
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of really good rookies in

1275
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: the midfield that I'd rather have them there and even

1276
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: go with a three hundred k guy somewhere else, or

1277
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: try and redistribute the cash to get more rookies. I'm

1278
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: just not like, I don't think Petlingers must have by

1279
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: any means, and I can't really fit him in. And

1280
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: on the flip side, I think Jason horn Francis is

1281
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: an absolute must, and you know, he'll be a top

1282
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: three forward at a minimum. He'll be a top forward

1283
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: at most. And this is as cheap as we're going

1284
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: to get him all year. Doesn't have an early buy,

1285
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: has a great run now with no Zach Butter's for

1286
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: at least you know round one or two of the

1287
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: season will start the year like a house on fire.

1288
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: I you know, Toyd Jason Horn Francis out of my

1289
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: team and an extra defensive premium for all of ten

1290
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: minutes before hating how it looked enough that I just

1291
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: changed it back. I just I don't think, Yeah, I

1292
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: think you absolutely keep the Awning Man and you ditch Peeling.

1293
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a It's a difficult question at all.

1294
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Bet you, Chloe, you're a James Peeling DRUSA from wayback.

1295
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 4: Yes I am.

1296
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 5: He is in my team still, but I have also,

1297
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 5: similar to Al, been kind of mulling over it recently.

1298
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 5: I did actually try and take him out of my

1299
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 5: team last night, but then I just kind of had

1300
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: some random money I didn't really know what to do with.

1301
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: I wasn't I wanted to use the money in my

1302
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 5: back line, couldn't really find an option of.

1303
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: Where to put it.

1304
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 5: I think the main thing with the Peeling decision is

1305
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 5: trying to fit in that extra mid rookie because obviously

1306
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: they should generate better cash than peeling. And as you said,

1307
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 5: he is really at that awkward price point. But I

1308
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: couldn't really find the best option to kind of redistribute

1309
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 5: the cash I suppose for my team structure, so I

1310
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 5: brought him back in. He's still there. I think he

1311
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 5: will do a job, but you're right, he's not a

1312
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 5: rookie and he probably won't be a keeper. I've got

1313
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: a couple of those similar guys in my team, so

1314
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: I am still and knowing, but he's there for now.

1315
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: I still like him, all.

1316
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: Right, Tim, one for you because I know this is

1317
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: a go you like, And we've talked a lot about

1318
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: options down in defense, but this guy hasn't been mentioned

1319
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: at all, and he's in one point four percent of teams.

1320
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Is Jeremy mcgovernor, sneaky pod. He'll be the main man

1321
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: now at the Eagles. The ball will be down there

1322
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot should take a majority of kick ins. Of course,

1323
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: barrass has gone. Liam Duggans now midfield apparently, so why

1324
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: are we all ignoring Jeremy McGovern.

1325
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

1326
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: Well, I just feel like at some point he's going

1327
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: to have to play key back. No Tom barrass there

1328
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: to support him now. So but I said that at

1329
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: how many times do I say that? Last year and

1330
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 3: he just ended up hogging kickouts like he I swear

1331
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 3: he just sat behind the post half the time and

1332
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: took about fifteen kickouts a game as a non owner.

1333
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: It was just the most infuriating thing to watch him

1334
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 3: play footy. So yeah, maybe it could work. But like

1335
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: history will tell us, he played nineteen games last year,

1336
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: which was his best for a fair while, so it's

1337
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: going to be a point.

1338
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: He's probably going to after three of those games.

1339
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he just he just finds ways to get

1340
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: himself hurt or get himself injured. So I could see

1341
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: that potentially blowing up at that same price, like not

1342
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: wanting to throw too many aims out there because I

1343
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: know that we're about to wrap up. But Danes Orco

1344
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: is around that same price, and you all know how

1345
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: I feel.

1346
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: About dats a forgotten men.

1347
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 6: He's the one.

1348
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: He's one more expensive than McGovern Kadeen Coleman's is not

1349
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: going to be there for at least the first month

1350
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 3: of the season, so he's probably just going to rack

1351
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: up pill for fun in the back half, and it

1352
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: would not shock me at all if he came out

1353
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 3: scored one hundred and forty in opening round and people

1354
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: were clamoring to find ways to get five hundred and

1355
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 3: ninety k to fit imago their team. So I'd probably

1356
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: go for Zorco over McGovern, But they're both absolute seagulls

1357
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: that love kickins and that's he scored points in suber

1358
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Coaches a defender, so yeah, him, them and Luke Ryan

1359
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: are the best at it, and either of those are

1360
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: probably going to start the season well. But I'd go

1361
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: Zorco over McGovern for probably durability, but both of them

1362
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: are pushing mid thirties now, so who knows how long

1363
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: their bodies are going to hold up.

1364
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 5: I did put Zorca on my team last night, and

1365
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: then that thought crossed my mind and I thought Kitty

1366
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 5: will come back eventually. Maybe it's better to go to

1367
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: a Whitfield or someone, So that's what I've done.

1368
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: But I can see the thinking there.

1369
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 5: I was talking about Deansorker last week, but in terms

1370
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 5: of longevity, I'm not quite George there, but over mcgovernor,

1371
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, I agree, I.

1372
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: Think Jackson Clears are much better other than the both.

1373
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: But like he's had an interrupted pre season, hasn't he

1374
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: so question marks about whether you can pick him or not?

1375
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, if it was out of those round pick

1376
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: sinclear by a country while. But yeah, he again, he's

1377
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: got question marks over him, like about half the competition

1378
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: that have managed to get injured in this preseason.

1379
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That is what we have to deal with

1380
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: now in supercoaching. Over as I say, the next fifteen

1381
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: days we count down to round one, we've got opening

1382
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: around coming up next week or so. Jeez, But that

1383
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: of course doesn't count officially in Supercoach, but we'll be

1384
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: watching very closely to see how everybody goes. You can

1385
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: still make unlimited trades all the way through to round one.

1386
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm reminded to to make sure you check out. Everybody's

1387
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: going a free trial at the moment for super Coach plus,

1388
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 1: so we sprink it all the time, all the great

1389
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: features on there, the break evens and ownership stats and

1390
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: live trades and all these things, So make sure you

1391
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: make use of all that while the while the trial

1392
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: is in operation, for the first couple of rounds and

1393
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: see what you like, because you.

1394
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 6: Get scores scores in round zero l is that right opening, Yeah,

1395
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 6: we will.

1396
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: Have live scores in round zero yep, so check that out.

1397
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: And we've got all the scores for the Amy games

1398
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: just online, certainly from last night. They're already up and

1399
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: we'll try and get those up as soon as we

1400
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: can after the siren for each of those games as well.

1401
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: So absolutely plenty happening, hopefully not too many more injuries,

1402
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: and we just get some rookies that bob up that

1403
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: we haven't been expecting, which is always nice when that

1404
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: happens around this time of year. We might be handy

1405
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: to get one or two in the back line of

1406
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: just putting it out there to the super coach gods,

1407
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: but we know that's for all danger. But thanks Tim

1408
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: Chloe Patch for jumping on for another huge episode. Thanks

1409
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: everybody for listening and sending in your questions and fire

1410
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: them in next weekend all the way through this season,

1411
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: but make sure you like and subscribe Leaver Review all

1412
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: that good stuff watch on Code Code Sports YouTube and

1413
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Speaker 1: we'll get you next week.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm.