Speaker 1: I'll get a team. Welcome to another in Storming You project.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I fucked up the intro that
Speaker 1: I did thirteen seconds ago, having done this seventy two
Speaker 1: million times, but I managed to do it. So then
Speaker 1: I rebooted, and I'm not sure that this one is
Speaker 1: any better than the fucking first one. Anyway, this is
Speaker 1: the one you're getting, Hi, tiv.
Speaker 2: I love this one.
Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. Good morning. I'm drinking a
Speaker 1: cup of tea. It's very muggy. It's very muggy, twenty
Speaker 1: two or three degrees in the thriving And now I
Speaker 1: sound like I'm Jane Bunn. Jane Bunn is a weather
Speaker 1: presenter and meteorologist. I think more respectfully, more than just
Speaker 1: a lady who presents the weather. So I've got a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm channeling Jane Bunn at the moment. But
Speaker 1: it is eleven thirty five in Melbourne Sunday morning. What
Speaker 1: are you laughing at? Is there a double on tundra
Speaker 1: to that that I'm not. I didn't mean anything. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying and it's fucking muggy outside. It's muggy, really hot,
Speaker 1: but not Yeah, yesterday was ridiculous, did I tell you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you this. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about turning an idea into a reality today.
Speaker 1: That's the theme of our show. But speaking of that,
Speaker 1: I realized that I have been walking less lately, but
Speaker 1: just because I've been busy, so I've been unintentionally sitting
Speaker 1: at my computer more. And I looked up and I
Speaker 1: generally I'm a kind of a seven to ten thousand
Speaker 1: steps a day, which is not a lot. But I
Speaker 1: looked at my last week or so on my phone.
Speaker 1: Admittedly my phone doesn't go everywhere but most places with me,
Speaker 1: and one day I did like three and a half
Speaker 1: thousand steps or something. I'm like, what, am I a
Speaker 1: fucking plant? Am I a yaka? Am I a daffodil?
Speaker 1: And so I said to myself self, this the next
Speaker 1: seven days rock bottom, ten thousand, rock bottom. You've got
Speaker 1: to do more. But so I've been doing every day.
Speaker 1: I think I told you this, But for the listeners,
Speaker 1: I've been doing every day, you know, at least ten,
Speaker 1: most days around twelve or thirty, and yesterday I did
Speaker 1: nearly sixteen. And it's funny, like just walking, which is
Speaker 1: hardly you know, strenuous. I guess, depending on where you're at,
Speaker 1: some people might be harder than others, of course, But
Speaker 1: so funny, like the last I've kind of pretty much
Speaker 1: doubled my walking over the last six days. And I'm hungrier.
Speaker 1: And you know how I'm I'm famously I only eat
Speaker 1: breakfast and lunch. I mean two o'clock, I could eat
Speaker 1: a chocolate coated turd. I'm so fucking hungry. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is who invented walking. This is
Speaker 1: a big energy burner. So that's disgusting, isn't it?
Speaker 2: Chocolate? And you put that in my head now, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next time you pick up some chocolate, especially if you
Speaker 1: go and by yourself a Chakeeto or a Mars bar,
Speaker 1: you'll have that little visual You're welcome. So I've been
Speaker 1: breaking my own rule. I have been eating lunch, but
Speaker 1: I've been having a handful of nuts or a little
Speaker 1: kind of protein drinking poo. But anyway, but it's but
Speaker 1: apart from that another unexpected benefit. I didn't expect any
Speaker 1: benefit other than just moving my body a bit more.
Speaker 1: And you know, just the benefits come of the physiological benefits.
Speaker 1: But I feel better, like it's hard to, you know,
Speaker 1: because when you're rating yourself, you've only got you to
Speaker 1: rate you against you, you know. So it's but as
Speaker 1: objective as I can be, which is not very because
Speaker 1: I am me assessing me. But I feel a bit
Speaker 1: happier and I feel a bit cognitively sharper. So when
Speaker 1: I do sit down, like what I've found myself doing
Speaker 1: the last most of the last week is I'll do
Speaker 1: one longish walk like five k's, but then I'll get
Speaker 1: up from my desk and go and walk a k,
Speaker 1: come back, do some shit, go walk another k. People
Speaker 1: in my area must think I'm a fucking weirdo because
Speaker 1: they just see this. Yeah, who's that old fucker just
Speaker 1: walking laps in front of my house five times a day?
Speaker 1: So I need to consciously choose a different route so
Speaker 1: I don't I don't scare people. And I the other
Speaker 1: day I walked, so I just wanted to. I had
Speaker 1: literally ten minutes before a meeting or twelve minutes, and
Speaker 1: I went right, I'm going to do a ten minute
Speaker 1: walk just to get in a thousand steps. So I
Speaker 1: walked out the side, walked out the side of my house,
Speaker 1: I walked up the side street, because I live on
Speaker 1: a corner. I walked, you know, like five hundred meters
Speaker 1: one way, and then this lady came out of a
Speaker 1: driveway just as I walked past where I was about
Speaker 1: to turn around and just come back. So I just
Speaker 1: walked one direction, turn around, come back, That's what I
Speaker 1: was doing this time. And then so then I literally
Speaker 1: turned around and it looked like I was following her.
Speaker 1: So I had to walk over the other side of
Speaker 1: the street because I was walking one direction. She came
Speaker 1: out started walking down the street, and then I essentially
Speaker 1: turned around and followed her, but not really, but that's
Speaker 1: what it would have felt like for her. And I'm like, ah, so,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's one of the and I understand it.
Speaker 1: I understand palf of women.
Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for crossing the street.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I have a lot of awareness around that,
Speaker 1: and I often get conflicted because like the other day,
Speaker 1: I was coming back, I did a big walk and
Speaker 1: I was walking down Hampton Street and there were these
Speaker 1: two little girls out in the front of a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Their parents must have been in the restaurant. I guess
Speaker 1: one was on a scooter, one was on a bike,
Speaker 1: and the one that was on the bike was trying
Speaker 1: to ride it, but the side stand was clunked down
Speaker 1: in position so she couldn't ride it, and she was
Speaker 1: trying to get the side stand of the bike up,
Speaker 1: but she didn't wanted to turn your microphone off. What
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 2: My dog's barking quite brightly something, So.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I thought maybe you were farting. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: dog fart either. Good. It's funny because sometimes when you're
Speaker 1: chatting folks, tif turns a microphone off like it is
Speaker 1: right now, and you feel like, you know, when you
Speaker 1: feel like you're talking to someone but they're not looking
Speaker 1: at you. That's what I thought. I just stopped mid
Speaker 1: conversations sometimes. Sorry, so sorry for talking while you're interrupting. Sorry,
Speaker 1: But anyway, so the little girl couldn't get the side
Speaker 1: stand of her bike up, but obviously I knew that
Speaker 1: I could. And then I'm in this dilemma. Do I
Speaker 1: stop and help the five year old that I don't
Speaker 1: know and be helpful like my intention genuinely to help
Speaker 1: her so she could ride a bike. But then these
Speaker 1: days you're like, fuck, what does that look like? I'm
Speaker 1: actually scared to just do a nice thing, you know,
Speaker 1: And so anyway, it was in the middle of there
Speaker 1: was people everywhere, and so I just I said, do
Speaker 1: you want a hand? And she's kind of smiled and nodded,
Speaker 1: and I just clunked it up and took off and
Speaker 1: she's like thank you. I'm like, you're welcome. But as
Speaker 1: quickly as I could do it and then get out
Speaker 1: of there, I did it. And I was walking away
Speaker 1: and I felt a little bit sad that you can't
Speaker 1: if you're and I understand it, I get it, but
Speaker 1: if you're if you are the bloke who's just trying
Speaker 1: to help someone, and then you feel awkward or guilty
Speaker 1: or like worried. Here I am doing a good thing.
Speaker 1: Do I need to worry? Do I need to worry
Speaker 1: that I'm doing a good thing? About what this good
Speaker 1: thing looks like? Not what's actually going on, but what
Speaker 1: people think. So, yeah, that's that's something that now for
Speaker 1: me is it's not an issue, but it's an awareness
Speaker 1: that I didn't used to have, like I just do
Speaker 1: a nice thing, like if it was a you know,
Speaker 1: it's like I saw a bloke the other day or
Speaker 1: not the other day a few weeks ago who was
Speaker 1: struggling to get some shit in the back of his
Speaker 1: station wagon, and I just stopped and helped him. Like
Speaker 1: he was just by himself with this big box of shit.
Speaker 1: But with that guy, I'm like, no worries, it's a dude.
Speaker 1: I'm a dude. He's a dude. We're just putting shit
Speaker 1: in the back of a station wagon, you know. But
Speaker 1: if that was a lady, I would have had to go, oh,
Speaker 1: like I want to help, But what does that come across?
Speaker 2: Like he'd probably just knocked off a jewelry store, and
Speaker 2: you've just become an accomplice it helping him get rid
Speaker 2: of the goods.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, why are we loading all of these
Speaker 1: computers and this jewelry? And what about this big plasma screen?
Speaker 1: And why are you wearing a balaclava? Brian? Are you
Speaker 1: sure your name's Brian? Yeah, Well, now that you mention it,
Speaker 1: I'll hang on. I think that's the cops all right anyway,
Speaker 1: So no one needs to know that. But that's just
Speaker 1: what goes through my head. But yes, I'm walking more.
Speaker 1: I'm out helping people in suburbia doing God's work, you know.
Speaker 1: Today Robin Hood, I can just doing what I can
Speaker 1: and then overthinking my actions as is my way, as
Speaker 1: is my way.
Speaker 2: It is interesting, though, like it's great that because I
Speaker 2: was going to say, do you feel better from being
Speaker 2: active and walking?
Speaker 1: And yeah, well I normally walk, but I realized I
Speaker 1: don't walk as much as I think, Like I consciously
Speaker 1: go for a walk every day, but when I'm not
Speaker 1: actually going. You know, when I go to the gym,
Speaker 1: I driver. I don't drive, a ride a motorbike, and
Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't incidentally walk much because I
Speaker 1: spend so much time doing what I do, so incidental
Speaker 1: walking is probably two thousand steps a day. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: So then even to get to eight thousand, I've got
Speaker 1: to actually go for a walk, which is cool. But
Speaker 1: then when I've pretty much doubled it, some days tripled it,
Speaker 1: like yesterday was a lot. Yeah, I really I feel hungrier.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel yeah, I feel better. I know
Speaker 1: that it's a weird, but there is a big correlation
Speaker 1: between longevity and you know what there's if anyone wants
Speaker 1: to know. Of course, there's a correlation between longevity and
Speaker 1: hell span. In other words, how long you live, but
Speaker 1: how well you live for those years. But another interesting variable.
Speaker 1: And we've spoken about grip strength and quite a few
Speaker 1: other things, but is stride length and walking speed. So
Speaker 1: the bigger that you step or the bigger you stride length.
Speaker 1: Now remember that's in relation to your height. So we
Speaker 1: don't expect someone who's six ' five to have this
Speaker 1: stride length as someone like TIF who's four eight. What
Speaker 1: are you five to five? Okay, now you're not six short.
Speaker 1: You're kind of normal, regular average average, so walking speed.
Speaker 1: And so what I've been doing is I try to
Speaker 1: do one of my walks. Most of my walks I'm
Speaker 1: just listening to shit or making phone calls or or
Speaker 1: you know, seeking the Lord m or you know, divine
Speaker 1: direction or people like he bullshitting or is that real?
Speaker 1: Or I'm consciously going right this walk I'm going to
Speaker 1: walk at I put up a thing the other day too,
Speaker 1: like called the one point five protocol. Did you read that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Probably didn't. So here's an interesting thing. Now, whatever you're
Speaker 1: walking speed, if you one point five that in other words,
Speaker 1: if you walk fifty percent quicker, you increase your energy
Speaker 1: expenditure walking for the same amount of time by nearly
Speaker 1: seventy five percent, which is really interesting. Because it's not
Speaker 1: a linear kind of it doesn't parallel like the quicker
Speaker 1: that you walk. Obviously, the more strength required, the more
Speaker 1: energy required. But and so you can do the same
Speaker 1: thing for the same amount of time. Obviously you're going
Speaker 1: to cover more time, more ground if you walk in quicker.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like that. So I do one walk
Speaker 1: where I'm walking at my guestimate is about one point
Speaker 1: three or one point five of my normal walking speed.
Speaker 1: So let's say I walk at five when I'm just
Speaker 1: strolling around suburbia. It's probably somewhere in the vicinity of seven.
Speaker 1: But I get back and I'm almost out of breath
Speaker 1: because you're kind of walking, almost at that point where
Speaker 1: you need to break into a jog. And did you
Speaker 1: know this. While I'm just boring everyone with fucking the
Speaker 1: science of walking, everyone's.
Speaker 2: Just fascinating getting up and walking around their house.
Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, No, everyone's punching himself in the face
Speaker 1: and hitting that fifteen second fast forward thing if not
Speaker 1: turning off. But here's something else that's interesting. When you
Speaker 1: let's say the fastest you can walk is say seven
Speaker 1: point five right case kph, and after that you've got
Speaker 1: to run. Well, it actually it takes more energy to
Speaker 1: walk at seven point five than run at eight. Wow,
Speaker 1: because it's less efficient biomechanically and energetically. So it's funny
Speaker 1: because with that, in that particular unique instance, walking at
Speaker 1: seven point five kilometers an hour, where this is as
Speaker 1: fast as you can humanly walk, and now then you
Speaker 1: break into a jog where you feel like a slow
Speaker 1: jog is actually easier than a very fast walk.
Speaker 2: What about incline walking? I've been I did incline walking
Speaker 2: on the treaty this morning. I always bang that up
Speaker 2: on a high incline and that is hard.
Speaker 1: That's well, that is I mean, here's the beauty of
Speaker 1: all of these things, right when we think about how
Speaker 1: do we improve anything, like how do we create how
Speaker 1: do we push our fitness or our strength or a
Speaker 1: flexibility or any of the fitness measures. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: do the same thing at the same speed, that is,
Speaker 1: if you walk for at five kph for thirty minutes
Speaker 1: on the flat versus an incline of five, that's a
Speaker 1: very different. It seems pretty similar, but it's much different.
Speaker 1: If you walk on an incline of ten, that's that's
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously you're also putting different muscles under load,
Speaker 1: you'll feel the muscle down the front of your shin,
Speaker 1: which is called tibialis anterior that's in constant flexion because
Speaker 1: your foot is bent up, so it's in dorsy flexion.
Speaker 1: So when you point your toe like a ballerina, that's
Speaker 1: called pla reflection. I'm not telling you this tip, I'm
Speaker 1: telling the audience. And then when you bend your toe
Speaker 1: or your foot back up towards like your knee, it's
Speaker 1: called dorsy flexion. And when you are walking on an incline,
Speaker 1: you're in that dorsy flexed position, which means your tibi
Speaker 1: ali santeririra, that muscle at the front of your shin
Speaker 1: is contracted a lot more and so we get really
Speaker 1: saw through there. But the bottom line is that changing
Speaker 1: the variable like doing the exact same thing or the
Speaker 1: exact same activity in a different way. I'm walking, I'm
Speaker 1: walking flat, I'm walking incline. I'm walking slow, I'm walking fast.
Speaker 1: I'm walking up a big hill. I'm walking down a
Speaker 1: big hill. I'm walking on stairs. I'm walking upstairs downstairs,
Speaker 1: I'm walking on soft sand. That's a motherfucker. I'm walking
Speaker 1: in the Dandy Knongs like you do when you're bloody
Speaker 1: making friends with the kidners. I'm walking in the Dandy
Speaker 1: Knongs and it's an uneven surface and as it's you know,
Speaker 1: like you walking in the D's at five kilometers an hour.
Speaker 1: The danniek Noongs are some mountain ranges here in Victoria. Everyone,
Speaker 1: you walking at five kph in that environment versus along
Speaker 1: the foreshore at Port Melbourne on a flat path. Your
Speaker 1: energy expenditure I don't know exactly, of course, because they're
Speaker 1: too many variables, but I would guess your energy expenditure
Speaker 1: would be around thirty to fifty percent more doing the
Speaker 1: same activity in a different environment or the same amount
Speaker 1: of time. And all of these things are like really
Speaker 1: nice examples of you know, progression and overload. Where we're
Speaker 1: just and that's the thing is we are. We've spoken
Speaker 1: about this before and we did not we did not
Speaker 1: plan to talk about this. We'll talk about our topic
Speaker 1: in a minute. But you know the truth is that
Speaker 1: when it comes to exercise, we are more emotional than
Speaker 1: we are strategic in that we tend to do the
Speaker 1: thing that we like. I like this bench press, so
Speaker 1: I'll use this bench or I like this treadmill in
Speaker 1: the corner, despite the fact that there are five identical ones,
Speaker 1: I always use this one or I you know, I
Speaker 1: love to do this, but I don't love to do
Speaker 1: I enjoy the bike, but I hate the rower, so
Speaker 1: I do the bike. It's like, well, I get that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying don't do the bike, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: maybe the roller would be good because your body's not
Speaker 1: conditioned to the rower because you avoid it. So maybe
Speaker 1: there's some physiological benefit in doing the thing you don't
Speaker 1: normally do. Maybe you create an adaptive response because one
Speaker 1: of the things that you want is you want to
Speaker 1: change your body. But you always sit on the bike
Speaker 1: and you do the same bike in the same at
Speaker 1: the same speed for the same amount of time, and
Speaker 1: then get frustrated because nothing's changed. You know, well, nothing
Speaker 1: changes because there's no physiological need because you never create
Speaker 1: a new kind of stimulus. You're just in an exercise
Speaker 1: groundhog day. So yeah, I don't know how we got here,
Speaker 1: but that all started with me walking.
Speaker 2: More started from your morning walk. When I in the
Speaker 2: fight camps, when I get really fit, and I would
Speaker 2: we warm up with really hard skipping sprints, and I
Speaker 2: can skip as hard as.
Speaker 1: I can and kind of not hit the red.
Speaker 2: Zone on my heart rate monitor. And when it gets
Speaker 2: to that point, I would skip moderately but run backwards
Speaker 2: and forwards at the same time. So just and moderate,
Speaker 2: like not fast at all. My heart rate would go
Speaker 2: through the roof because you've got all this new stuff
Speaker 2: going through your brain trying to figure out the coordination
Speaker 2: of Oh now I'm not just pushing this thing. I
Speaker 2: know how to do as hard as I can. I'm
Speaker 2: going forwards and then backwards and doing that at the
Speaker 2: same time. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's chucking in another variable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like I've got two weight vests at my place,
Speaker 1: and one of them holds what does it hold? One
Speaker 1: of them holds. This is in pounds, right, a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't do it in no, I'll do
Speaker 1: it in kilos. So one of them holds about twenty kilos,
Speaker 1: twenty five kilos, but the other one, Tiffany and Cook,
Speaker 1: holds seventy kilos. What yeah, so that's one hundred me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one hundred and fifty four pounds. And so I've
Speaker 1: only put on the seventy kilos about three times. And
Speaker 1: so my block where I live, if I walk out
Speaker 1: and just turn left left, left, left, and end up
Speaker 1: back at my joint and walking with that, it's what
Speaker 1: it's seventy kilos. So it's like piggybacking you and you're
Speaker 1: piggybacking at ten and you've got a ten kilo backpack on. Right. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is and I mean literally it's a nine hundred
Speaker 1: meters walk. Yeah, it is fucking agony. It's like the
Speaker 1: first time I did it. And one of the other
Speaker 1: realities of this particular thing is getting this seventy kilo
Speaker 1: pack on and off is harder than the actual walking.
Speaker 1: So what you've got to do is you lay. So
Speaker 1: there's thirty five kilos front, thirty five kilos pack, So
Speaker 1: you lay the the the vest on the bench and
Speaker 1: you lay It's hard to explain, but you need to
Speaker 1: lay it out length wise on the bench, so the
Speaker 1: back is higher up on the bench and the front
Speaker 1: is lower down, and you literally lay on the weights
Speaker 1: the front part of the vest. You put your head
Speaker 1: through the vest. Then you need to try and get
Speaker 1: the weights over your back while doing It's maybe I
Speaker 1: was going to say I'll do a video. I definitely won't.
Speaker 1: No one needs to see it. But oh it's a
Speaker 1: it's a motherfucker, but yeah, it's but even nothing ridiculous
Speaker 1: like that. But even getting a weight vest where you
Speaker 1: put on ten kilos, so instead of being Tiff who
Speaker 1: weighs sixty, now you're Tiff who weighs seventy, and you
Speaker 1: go for your normal walk, and you try and do
Speaker 1: your normal walk at your normal pace with your dog
Speaker 1: and do all the things you normally do, so it's
Speaker 1: a it's not a crazy weight. But yeah, even just that,
Speaker 1: let's see, what's ten kilos as a percentage of sixty
Speaker 1: is it's around fifteen sixteen percent, So that's about sixteen
Speaker 1: percent of your body weight ten kilos, So that's a
Speaker 1: sixteen percent increase.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that one.
Speaker 1: And I would think the energy expenditure would be I'm
Speaker 1: making this up, but it would be definitely somewhere in
Speaker 1: the thirty to fifty, maybe twenty to thirty, maybe twenty
Speaker 1: to thirty. And that's doing in it And that's not hard.
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, but you know, so even just
Speaker 1: and this is the whole idea of progression. If you
Speaker 1: don't want to run or you don't want to and
Speaker 1: that's cool. But you know another thing I saw yesterday
Speaker 1: or not yesterday, the other day. Just quickly before we
Speaker 1: keep avoiding the topic, we're talking about how long have
Speaker 1: we been talking? By the way, actually minutes, well have
Speaker 1: we it's the world's longest intro. So this lady was
Speaker 1: on what was she on? What was she on? She
Speaker 1: was on Huberman and she was talking. She's an exercise scientist,
Speaker 1: this lady and research of PhD. Straight up smarty pants.
Speaker 1: Probably I don't know, I might be being rude when I
Speaker 1: say she looks. I think she's around my age, so
Speaker 1: I would guess anywhere kind of fifty five plus. It
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but anyway, she was talking about what
Speaker 1: the her three things that people should do who are older,
Speaker 1: absolute non negotiables. So one obviously is heavy strength training,
Speaker 1: and by heavy we mean relative to the individual, of course,
Speaker 1: so some people five kilos heavy, for some people twenty
Speaker 1: kilos is light. So we're talking about relative to the
Speaker 1: individual with good form who's already built up a base.
Speaker 1: But eventually when that person gets to just so to
Speaker 1: be doing some strength training that's hard and progressive. That
Speaker 1: was one you're never going to next guess the next two,
Speaker 1: the next. The second one, not in order of importance,
Speaker 1: is sprinting. Did you know that ninety five percent of
Speaker 1: people once they reach thirty never sprint again. They might,
Speaker 1: I don't know, semisprint for the odd taxi. But in
Speaker 1: terms of actually going, can like do some kind of
Speaker 1: training where they're running at almost so Obviously, again there
Speaker 1: are lots of variables around that, and this is not
Speaker 1: a recommendation, and you've got to stretch and you've got
Speaker 1: to build up all that shit. Right, But let's say
Speaker 1: in a perfect world that we don't live in. But
Speaker 1: so strength training, sprinting, and the other one is bouncing,
Speaker 1: so where both of your feet are off the ground,
Speaker 1: not bouncing on a bouncer, bouncing, so you are literally
Speaker 1: pushing your weight off the earth, so you and your
Speaker 1: feet are leaving the earth momentarily. And then I had
Speaker 1: a look at a protocol it's like one minute, one minute,
Speaker 1: and I did one minute, and I'm like, yeah, that
Speaker 1: that works. I did one minute just on outside my joint,
Speaker 1: on fake grass. But I'm like, yeah, I could. It
Speaker 1: was all right. It wasn't horrendous. But I'm like, if
Speaker 1: I did two minutes of that, I think I would
Speaker 1: be fucked. But yeah, you know, it's funny, so these
Speaker 1: little protocols because you think about when you have impact,
Speaker 1: like not reckless, dangerous impact, but a degree of impact.
Speaker 1: Where you're now, you're working against your strength and your
Speaker 1: spine and your bone mass, and your strength is working
Speaker 1: against gravity to help you momentarily leave the Earth. So
Speaker 1: to speak. By the Earth, I mean terra firma, not
Speaker 1: the orbit of the Earth, just the fucking just the
Speaker 1: bit below your feet. Imagine that I jumped up, I
Speaker 1: landed on the Moon. I just wanted to do one
Speaker 1: minutes of plios Okay, and here I am just next
Speaker 1: to the space station. Buck. That's what it's like being
Speaker 1: an only child.
Speaker 2: Tip you should have another day in the hammock. You're
Speaker 2: you're quite on fire today.
Speaker 1: I know I'm amusing at some mark, aren't I all Right?
Speaker 1: So do you want to just keep banging on about
Speaker 1: this mindless shit or should we do the actual topic
Speaker 1: we were going to do, or should we do that
Speaker 1: another day?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, it's entirely out to youhaps I'm quite
Speaker 2: amused either way.
Speaker 1: I think we might we might leave this idea for
Speaker 1: another day because I feel like I feel like we're
Speaker 1: I think this would almost be enough for a little
Speaker 1: a little episode. But I think, like I know that
Speaker 1: we've spoken a lot over the years periodically, like we've
Speaker 1: we've probably had out of the seventeen hundred and something episodes,
Speaker 1: we've probably had twenty episodes where we've covered similar stuff.
Speaker 1: But I just think it's good for us to think about,
Speaker 1: you know, for those of us who exercise, or even
Speaker 1: those of us who don't, if you want to think
Speaker 1: about exercising, I think one of the one of the
Speaker 1: emotional and psychological hurdles for people is that you need
Speaker 1: to become a gym person, or you need to become
Speaker 1: a fitness person, or you need to become something that
Speaker 1: you're not. And you absolutely don't, you absolutely don't. But
Speaker 1: but what I do know, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: the listener should individually do. But what I do know
Speaker 1: is that body's done the right way consistently, his benefit
Speaker 1: from from movement and from load and from variety and
Speaker 1: from some progression and from working against resistance and you know,
Speaker 1: being being kind of somewhat diligent with that even when
Speaker 1: it ain't fun. You know, every every one of us
Speaker 1: has a body, and that body is going to fucking
Speaker 1: fall apart. Eventually, the body is going to decline. You
Speaker 1: are going to lose bone density and strength and muscle
Speaker 1: and function and balance and fucking bladder control, and all
Speaker 1: of these things happen eventually that like, nobody misses out, nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody comes out alive, everybody. But it's like, I think,
Speaker 1: I just get what's the word. I get passionate about
Speaker 1: this because well, you know, I'm watching quite a few
Speaker 1: people my parents' age and their friends and my own
Speaker 1: parents and dealing with some you know, some confronting things
Speaker 1: at the moment that don't need to be divulged here.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, there's an inevitability. And I also
Speaker 1: look at some people that are dealing with things right now,
Speaker 1: and also some of the people that I've worked with
Speaker 1: over the years or just observed over the years, where
Speaker 1: I can't say with absolute certainty because I don't have
Speaker 1: a crystal ball, but I say with a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence that if this particular person or that particular person
Speaker 1: had have done certain things over the last thirty years,
Speaker 1: instead of each shit and sit on the couch. They
Speaker 1: would be in a very different place now, like their
Speaker 1: body would, their function, their quality of life, their lifestyle,
Speaker 1: their capacity would be nothing like it currently is. You know,
Speaker 1: and I think that weaving whatever, whether or not it's
Speaker 1: just going for a walk five times a day for
Speaker 1: a k, or whether or not it's doing some step
Speaker 1: ups on the bench or the backstep, or whether or
Speaker 1: not it's doing a prone hold, or whether or not
Speaker 1: it is actually joining a gym. I mean, it's never
Speaker 1: been a better time, not in my lifetime anyway. Like
Speaker 1: when I grew up, costing a gym, costing joining a
Speaker 1: gym was not cheap, like I remember gyms that I
Speaker 1: worked in forty years ago. It was five hundred to
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a year to join a gym then.
Speaker 1: And you can join a gym now for about five
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Depends which gym and what membership, and you
Speaker 1: know where you get in, and you know there's all
Speaker 1: these offers going on constantly, and so for ten bucks
Speaker 1: a week, even if you're not a gym person, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now for ten bucks a week,
Speaker 1: you've got a million dollars worth of gym equipment that
Speaker 1: you can use twenty four hours a day that is
Speaker 1: just good for your body. So how often.
Speaker 2: You gone, oh, it's interesting, like what our relationship with
Speaker 2: the idea of exercise or training or the body or
Speaker 2: fitness is. And I reckon, you know, because you talk
Speaker 2: to most people who who have fitness as part of
Speaker 2: their life, it's so frequent that you hear people saying, well,
Speaker 2: I do I mean, I do that from my mental
Speaker 2: health though, so they've made the correlation that what I
Speaker 2: do with my body is good for my mind and
Speaker 2: good for my emotions, good for my energy. Definitely, it's
Speaker 2: interesting to look at what starts it off, what our
Speaker 2: resistance is, what our mindset around, the idea of it,
Speaker 2: and the story of it is, the prevents from getting started,
Speaker 2: because I think we can start from a really laborious
Speaker 2: I don't like my body, and now I have to
Speaker 2: do this and it's this shit thing that I don't like.
Speaker 2: They it's in the way of process, yea.
Speaker 1: And how many people start to exercise for their body
Speaker 1: and then realize how great it is for their emotions,
Speaker 1: for their anxiety, for their depression, for their mental focus memory,
Speaker 1: like oh, oh, this is it's almost like the body
Speaker 1: benefits are secondary. Yeah, you know, the physiology is that's
Speaker 1: just a bonus, But fuck, I feel good. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: there are very few people who start to work out
Speaker 1: if they do it, you know, the right way. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to start off like seventy two workouts a week,
Speaker 1: but just who don't talk about the fact that they
Speaker 1: feel better, not just physically, but oh yeah when I
Speaker 1: work out, it so many people have said to me,
Speaker 1: when I exercize in the morning sets me up for
Speaker 1: the day, I feel amazing. If I don't do it,
Speaker 1: I feel shit, you know. So, But then they do
Speaker 1: this thing and it creates all this great biochemical stuff
Speaker 1: in the brain. But I also think that like back
Speaker 1: to what you said, which is something like the relationship
Speaker 1: we have with exercise. But it's almost like some people
Speaker 1: think about having to exercise as some kind of fucking punishment.
Speaker 1: I think it's a gift. Like what about our friend
Speaker 1: Joel who lives in a wheelchair. What about our friend
Speaker 1: Johnny who's got a spinal cord injury and a brain injury.
Speaker 1: What about It's like, if you can exercise, you're fucking gifted,
Speaker 1: Like you're blessed you know that. Ah, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't mean sound judgy, and maybe
Speaker 1: that does, so I apologize if it does. But for
Speaker 1: me having worked with people who don't have the option,
Speaker 1: a lot of them who can't go for a walk,
Speaker 1: who can't get out of a chair, who can't lift
Speaker 1: a weight, and then and then who would do anything
Speaker 1: to be able to go for lift a weight, stand up,
Speaker 1: sit in a car, get out of a car, you know,
Speaker 1: get on a step ladder and get a cup down
Speaker 1: from the cupboard whatever. Just that shit that we take
Speaker 1: for granted. And so often we just do dumb shit
Speaker 1: to our body because we're lazy, or we're disinterested, or
Speaker 1: we tell ourselves a story. You know. It's like, ah,
Speaker 1: I'm not an exercise I'm not a fitness And then
Speaker 1: also what I should shut up because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm going to disenfranchise people, but people who run people
Speaker 1: down who exercise. Like the amount of people over the
Speaker 1: years who have criticized me because I work out every day.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not fifty percent, but it's more than
Speaker 1: you would think. It's like you're obsessed and I'm not obsessed.
Speaker 1: I just can't get another body. This is the only
Speaker 1: one I've got. And so when I do this to
Speaker 1: my body for my body, my body works better, I
Speaker 1: work better, my life is better. But it's easier for
Speaker 1: them to criticize you than to acknowledge perhaps what they
Speaker 1: should be doing or what they're not doing. So rather
Speaker 1: than go, oh, I could be inspired, or I could learn,
Speaker 1: or I could whatever from whoever. It is not me,
Speaker 1: I'm not an inspiration, but or maybe you know, I.
Speaker 2: Could just acknowledge that someone's protocol is different to mine.
Speaker 1: Yes, or I don't even need to fucking comment on
Speaker 1: you know. It's like if people could sit on the
Speaker 1: couch and eat shit and get good outcomes, I would
Speaker 1: be all for it. But nobody in the history of
Speaker 1: history has ever eaten sat on the couch, eating shit,
Speaker 1: drinking booze, doing fuck all, having bad health, our bad
Speaker 1: behavioral sorry, bad exercise and food habits and lifestyle habits,
Speaker 1: and produced a good outcome. Nobody, right, So it's not
Speaker 1: like this is an opinion.
Speaker 2: There's more options though, for people to get fit and
Speaker 2: get moving, and they get boxed into which gym and
Speaker 2: which type of training that am I going to do
Speaker 2: to grapple my body into looking the way I want
Speaker 2: it to. And it's like me driving now frequently for
Speaker 2: an hour to get to the Daninongs because the experience
Speaker 2: when I get there, like it's hard to make that
Speaker 2: drive because I'm like, it's a lot of my day.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of my day. And then I get
Speaker 2: there and I'm like, this is so fucking worth it. It
Speaker 2: is so beautiful. And then I find these little hills
Speaker 2: and I go up and down and sometimes I have
Speaker 2: a little bit of a fast paced trot and I
Speaker 2: make friends within a kidnap and I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: so different to the training that I have gotten used
Speaker 2: to doing all this time that I'm recalibrating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also this is for another day, another chat.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, when you are doing that
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we're talking about, or a version
Speaker 1: of the stuff that we're talking about in nature, that's
Speaker 1: another layer, that's another level because you're doing all this
Speaker 1: great ship for your body. But now you're doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff that's it's almost transcendent, you know. It's not
Speaker 1: like you know, getting in nature, it's like going back
Speaker 1: to nature because we are nature like for most of
Speaker 1: our evolutionary timeline, us and nature have been intertwined. It's
Speaker 1: only very very very recently in terms of the evolutionary
Speaker 1: timeline that we've lived in concrete jungles. But most of
Speaker 1: our existence we had our feet in the dirt. Literally literally,
Speaker 1: like shoes are fucking new, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of what we have today, you know. So, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Got like I up there, got so overwhelmed with emotion
Speaker 2: and gratitude and a level of presence that I just
Speaker 2: I just haven't experienced for no reason before. Like I
Speaker 2: wasn't in India, I wasn't on a mountain. I was
Speaker 2: down the road on a little dirt track at the
Speaker 2: Daninongs and I just stopped and I was like, I
Speaker 2: feel this right now? How fucking good is my life?
Speaker 1: Yep? Yeah, yep. Isn't that interesting? It's like when you do.
Speaker 1: One of my mentors back in the day used to
Speaker 1: tell me, and I now tell people. So it's not
Speaker 1: to Craig concepts, So give me no accolades. But every
Speaker 1: day you'd say, every day, get up and do a
Speaker 1: treasure hunt on your life, you know, like think about
Speaker 1: the shit in your life. That's and you know that
Speaker 1: stuff that I talk about. Can you walk up some stairs,
Speaker 1: Can you turn on a tap? Can you open a
Speaker 1: fridge and there's food in it? Can you press a
Speaker 1: button and cold air or warm air comes out? Do
Speaker 1: you have a car? Can do you have a job?
Speaker 1: Do you have any money? Does someone love you? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like very is so much, And of course the
Speaker 1: answer is not yes for all of our listeners to
Speaker 1: all of those questions. I understand that. But you know,
Speaker 1: when I think about what so many people in the
Speaker 1: world don't have, Like two and a half two and
Speaker 1: a half billion people in the world don't have clean water.
Speaker 1: Like We're not talking about a small percentage. We're talking
Speaker 1: about thirty five percent of the people on the planet.
Speaker 1: They can't turn on a tap and have glass of water.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm privileged, And I'm not privileged because
Speaker 1: I go and talk for NAB in front of a
Speaker 1: thousand people and earn this or do that or have
Speaker 1: a PODCA. I'm privileged because I can turn on a
Speaker 1: tap and there's water. I'm privileged because I live in
Speaker 1: a country where, for the most part, I'm safe. There's
Speaker 1: no bombs being dropped where I live. There's no rubble
Speaker 1: for me to have to crawl through to try to
Speaker 1: find something to eat where I live. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is I know, we've got fucking deep and philosophical. We've
Speaker 1: done a left turn at the fitness and now we're
Speaker 1: diving into gratitude. See this is what you get here, folks.
Speaker 1: It's like you went to the supermarket to get bananas
Speaker 1: and you came out with whiskey and a fucking bread
Speaker 1: roll and maybe some I don't know, Glenn twenty ah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, I feel we're waffling, but good chat TIV
Speaker 1: as always, who knew, See you next time.