1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: I'll get a team. Welcome to another in Storming You project. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why I fucked up the intro that 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: I did thirteen seconds ago, having done this seventy two 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: million times, but I managed to do it. So then 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I rebooted, and I'm not sure that this one is 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: any better than the fucking first one. Anyway, this is 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: the one you're getting, Hi, tiv. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: I love this one. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. Good morning. I'm drinking a 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: cup of tea. It's very muggy. It's very muggy, twenty 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: two or three degrees in the thriving And now I 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: sound like I'm Jane Bunn. Jane Bunn is a weather 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: presenter and meteorologist. I think more respectfully, more than just 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: a lady who presents the weather. So I've got a 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm channeling Jane Bunn at the moment. But 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: it is eleven thirty five in Melbourne Sunday morning. What 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: are you laughing at? Is there a double on tundra 18 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: to that that I'm not. I didn't mean anything. I'm 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: just saying and it's fucking muggy outside. It's muggy, really hot, 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: but not Yeah, yesterday was ridiculous, did I tell you. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you this. We're going 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: to talk about turning an idea into a reality today. 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: That's the theme of our show. But speaking of that, 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I realized that I have been walking less lately, but 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: just because I've been busy, so I've been unintentionally sitting 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: at my computer more. And I looked up and I 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: generally I'm a kind of a seven to ten thousand 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: steps a day, which is not a lot. But I 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: looked at my last week or so on my phone. 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Admittedly my phone doesn't go everywhere but most places with me, 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: and one day I did like three and a half 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: thousand steps or something. I'm like, what, am I a 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: fucking plant? Am I a yaka? Am I a daffodil? 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: And so I said to myself self, this the next 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: seven days rock bottom, ten thousand, rock bottom. You've got 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: to do more. But so I've been doing every day. 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: I think I told you this, But for the listeners, 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: I've been doing every day, you know, at least ten, 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: most days around twelve or thirty, and yesterday I did 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: nearly sixteen. And it's funny, like just walking, which is 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: hardly you know, strenuous. I guess, depending on where you're at, 42 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: some people might be harder than others, of course, But 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: so funny, like the last I've kind of pretty much 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: doubled my walking over the last six days. And I'm hungrier. 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: And you know how I'm I'm famously I only eat 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: breakfast and lunch. I mean two o'clock, I could eat 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: a chocolate coated turd. I'm so fucking hungry. I'm like, 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is who invented walking. This is 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: a big energy burner. So that's disgusting, isn't it? 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Chocolate? And you put that in my head now, Yeah. 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: Next time you pick up some chocolate, especially if you 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: go and by yourself a Chakeeto or a Mars bar, 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: you'll have that little visual You're welcome. So I've been 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: breaking my own rule. I have been eating lunch, but 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I've been having a handful of nuts or a little 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of protein drinking poo. But anyway, but it's but 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: apart from that another unexpected benefit. I didn't expect any 58 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: benefit other than just moving my body a bit more. 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: And you know, just the benefits come of the physiological benefits. 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: But I feel better, like it's hard to, you know, 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: because when you're rating yourself, you've only got you to 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: rate you against you, you know. So it's but as 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: objective as I can be, which is not very because 64 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I am me assessing me. But I feel a bit 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: happier and I feel a bit cognitively sharper. So when 66 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I do sit down, like what I've found myself doing 67 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: the last most of the last week is I'll do 68 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: one longish walk like five k's, but then I'll get 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: up from my desk and go and walk a k, 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: come back, do some shit, go walk another k. People 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: in my area must think I'm a fucking weirdo because 72 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: they just see this. Yeah, who's that old fucker just 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: walking laps in front of my house five times a day? 74 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: So I need to consciously choose a different route so 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't scare people. And I the other 76 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: day I walked, so I just wanted to. I had 77 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: literally ten minutes before a meeting or twelve minutes, and 78 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I went right, I'm going to do a ten minute 79 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: walk just to get in a thousand steps. So I 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: walked out the side, walked out the side of my house, 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: I walked up the side street, because I live on 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: a corner. I walked, you know, like five hundred meters 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: one way, and then this lady came out of a 84 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: driveway just as I walked past where I was about 85 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: to turn around and just come back. So I just 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: walked one direction, turn around, come back, That's what I 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: was doing this time. And then so then I literally 88 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: turned around and it looked like I was following her. 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: So I had to walk over the other side of 90 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the street because I was walking one direction. She came 91 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: out started walking down the street, and then I essentially 92 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: turned around and followed her, but not really, but that's 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: what it would have felt like for her. And I'm like, ah, so, 94 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, like that's one of the and I understand it. 95 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: I understand palf of women. 96 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for crossing the street. 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, I have a lot of awareness around that, 98 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: and I often get conflicted because like the other day, 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: I was coming back, I did a big walk and 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: I was walking down Hampton Street and there were these 101 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: two little girls out in the front of a restaurant. 102 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Their parents must have been in the restaurant. I guess 103 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: one was on a scooter, one was on a bike, 104 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: and the one that was on the bike was trying 105 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: to ride it, but the side stand was clunked down 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: in position so she couldn't ride it, and she was 107 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: trying to get the side stand of the bike up, 108 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: but she didn't wanted to turn your microphone off. What 109 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: are you doing? 110 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: My dog's barking quite brightly something, So. 111 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Anyway, I thought maybe you were farting. But that's okay, 112 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: dog fart either. Good. It's funny because sometimes when you're 113 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: chatting folks, tif turns a microphone off like it is 114 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: right now, and you feel like, you know, when you 115 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: feel like you're talking to someone but they're not looking 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: at you. That's what I thought. I just stopped mid 117 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: conversations sometimes. Sorry, so sorry for talking while you're interrupting. Sorry, 118 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, so the little girl couldn't get the side 119 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: stand of her bike up, but obviously I knew that 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: I could. And then I'm in this dilemma. Do I 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: stop and help the five year old that I don't 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: know and be helpful like my intention genuinely to help 123 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: her so she could ride a bike. But then these 124 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: days you're like, fuck, what does that look like? I'm 125 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: actually scared to just do a nice thing, you know, 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: And so anyway, it was in the middle of there 127 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: was people everywhere, and so I just I said, do 128 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: you want a hand? And she's kind of smiled and nodded, 129 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: and I just clunked it up and took off and 130 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: she's like thank you. I'm like, you're welcome. But as 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: quickly as I could do it and then get out 132 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: of there, I did it. And I was walking away 133 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: and I felt a little bit sad that you can't 134 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: if you're and I understand it, I get it, but 135 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: if you're if you are the bloke who's just trying 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: to help someone, and then you feel awkward or guilty 137 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: or like worried. Here I am doing a good thing. 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Do I need to worry? Do I need to worry 139 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: that I'm doing a good thing? About what this good 140 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: thing looks like? Not what's actually going on, but what 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: people think. So, yeah, that's that's something that now for 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: me is it's not an issue, but it's an awareness 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't used to have, like I just do 144 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: a nice thing, like if it was a you know, 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: it's like I saw a bloke the other day or 146 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: not the other day a few weeks ago who was 147 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: struggling to get some shit in the back of his 148 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: station wagon, and I just stopped and helped him. Like 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: he was just by himself with this big box of shit. 150 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: But with that guy, I'm like, no worries, it's a dude. 151 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm a dude. He's a dude. We're just putting shit 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: in the back of a station wagon, you know. But 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: if that was a lady, I would have had to go, oh, 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: like I want to help, But what does that come across? 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Like he'd probably just knocked off a jewelry store, and 156 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: you've just become an accomplice it helping him get rid 157 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: of the goods. 158 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, why are we loading all of these 159 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: computers and this jewelry? And what about this big plasma screen? 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: And why are you wearing a balaclava? Brian? Are you 161 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: sure your name's Brian? Yeah, Well, now that you mention it, 162 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: I'll hang on. I think that's the cops all right anyway, 163 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: So no one needs to know that. But that's just 164 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: what goes through my head. But yes, I'm walking more. 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm out helping people in suburbia doing God's work, you know. 166 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: Today Robin Hood, I can just doing what I can 167 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: and then overthinking my actions as is my way, as 168 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: is my way. 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: It is interesting, though, like it's great that because I 170 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: was going to say, do you feel better from being 171 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: active and walking? 172 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, well I normally walk, but I realized I 173 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: don't walk as much as I think, Like I consciously 174 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: go for a walk every day, but when I'm not 175 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: actually going. You know, when I go to the gym, 176 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I driver. I don't drive, a ride a motorbike, and 177 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't incidentally walk much because I 178 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: spend so much time doing what I do, so incidental 179 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: walking is probably two thousand steps a day. Yeah, you know. 180 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: So then even to get to eight thousand, I've got 181 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: to actually go for a walk, which is cool. But 182 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: then when I've pretty much doubled it, some days tripled it, 183 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: like yesterday was a lot. Yeah, I really I feel hungrier. 184 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: I feel I feel yeah, I feel better. I know 185 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: that it's a weird, but there is a big correlation 186 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: between longevity and you know what there's if anyone wants 187 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: to know. Of course, there's a correlation between longevity and 188 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: hell span. In other words, how long you live, but 189 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: how well you live for those years. But another interesting variable. 190 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: And we've spoken about grip strength and quite a few 191 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: other things, but is stride length and walking speed. So 192 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the bigger that you step or the bigger you stride length. 193 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Now remember that's in relation to your height. So we 194 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: don't expect someone who's six ' five to have this 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: stride length as someone like TIF who's four eight. What 196 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: are you five to five? Okay, now you're not six short. 197 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: You're kind of normal, regular average average, so walking speed. 198 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: And so what I've been doing is I try to 199 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: do one of my walks. Most of my walks I'm 200 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: just listening to shit or making phone calls or or 201 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, seeking the Lord m or you know, divine 202 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: direction or people like he bullshitting or is that real? 203 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: Or I'm consciously going right this walk I'm going to 204 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: walk at I put up a thing the other day too, 205 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: like called the one point five protocol. Did you read that? 206 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: No? 207 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Probably didn't. So here's an interesting thing. Now, whatever you're 208 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: walking speed, if you one point five that in other words, 209 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: if you walk fifty percent quicker, you increase your energy 210 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: expenditure walking for the same amount of time by nearly 211 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: seventy five percent, which is really interesting. Because it's not 212 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: a linear kind of it doesn't parallel like the quicker 213 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: that you walk. Obviously, the more strength required, the more 214 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: energy required. But and so you can do the same 215 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: thing for the same amount of time. Obviously you're going 216 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to cover more time, more ground if you walk in quicker. 217 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I like that. So I do one walk 218 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: where I'm walking at my guestimate is about one point 219 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: three or one point five of my normal walking speed. 220 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: So let's say I walk at five when I'm just 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: strolling around suburbia. It's probably somewhere in the vicinity of seven. 222 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: But I get back and I'm almost out of breath 223 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: because you're kind of walking, almost at that point where 224 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: you need to break into a jog. And did you 225 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: know this. While I'm just boring everyone with fucking the 226 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: science of walking, everyone's. 227 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Just fascinating getting up and walking around their house. 228 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Now yeah, yeah, No, everyone's punching himself in the face 229 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: and hitting that fifteen second fast forward thing if not 230 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: turning off. But here's something else that's interesting. When you 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: let's say the fastest you can walk is say seven 232 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: point five right case kph, and after that you've got 233 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: to run. Well, it actually it takes more energy to 234 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: walk at seven point five than run at eight. Wow, 235 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: because it's less efficient biomechanically and energetically. So it's funny 236 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: because with that, in that particular unique instance, walking at 237 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: seven point five kilometers an hour, where this is as 238 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: fast as you can humanly walk, and now then you 239 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: break into a jog where you feel like a slow 240 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: jog is actually easier than a very fast walk. 241 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: What about incline walking? I've been I did incline walking 242 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: on the treaty this morning. I always bang that up 243 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: on a high incline and that is hard. 244 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: That's well, that is I mean, here's the beauty of 245 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: all of these things, right when we think about how 246 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: do we improve anything, like how do we create how 247 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: do we push our fitness or our strength or a 248 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: flexibility or any of the fitness measures. Yeah, if you 249 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: do the same thing at the same speed, that is, 250 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: if you walk for at five kph for thirty minutes 251 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: on the flat versus an incline of five, that's a 252 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: very different. It seems pretty similar, but it's much different. 253 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: If you walk on an incline of ten, that's that's 254 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, and obviously you're also putting different muscles under load, 255 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: you'll feel the muscle down the front of your shin, 256 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: which is called tibialis anterior that's in constant flexion because 257 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: your foot is bent up, so it's in dorsy flexion. 258 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: So when you point your toe like a ballerina, that's 259 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: called pla reflection. I'm not telling you this tip, I'm 260 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: telling the audience. And then when you bend your toe 261 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: or your foot back up towards like your knee, it's 262 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: called dorsy flexion. And when you are walking on an incline, 263 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: you're in that dorsy flexed position, which means your tibi 264 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: ali santeririra, that muscle at the front of your shin 265 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: is contracted a lot more and so we get really 266 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: saw through there. But the bottom line is that changing 267 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: the variable like doing the exact same thing or the 268 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: exact same activity in a different way. I'm walking, I'm 269 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: walking flat, I'm walking incline. I'm walking slow, I'm walking fast. 270 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm walking up a big hill. I'm walking down a 271 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: big hill. I'm walking on stairs. I'm walking upstairs downstairs, 272 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm walking on soft sand. That's a motherfucker. I'm walking 273 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: in the Dandy Knongs like you do when you're bloody 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: making friends with the kidners. I'm walking in the Dandy 275 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Knongs and it's an uneven surface and as it's you know, 276 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: like you walking in the D's at five kilometers an hour. 277 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: The danniek Noongs are some mountain ranges here in Victoria. Everyone, 278 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: you walking at five kph in that environment versus along 279 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the foreshore at Port Melbourne on a flat path. Your 280 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: energy expenditure I don't know exactly, of course, because they're 281 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,359 Speaker 1: too many variables, but I would guess your energy expenditure 282 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: would be around thirty to fifty percent more doing the 283 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: same activity in a different environment or the same amount 284 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: of time. And all of these things are like really 285 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: nice examples of you know, progression and overload. Where we're 286 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: just and that's the thing is we are. We've spoken 287 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: about this before and we did not we did not 288 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: plan to talk about this. We'll talk about our topic 289 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: in a minute. But you know the truth is that 290 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to exercise, we are more emotional than 291 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: we are strategic in that we tend to do the 292 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: thing that we like. I like this bench press, so 293 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: I'll use this bench or I like this treadmill in 294 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: the corner, despite the fact that there are five identical ones, 295 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: I always use this one or I you know, I 296 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: love to do this, but I don't love to do 297 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I enjoy the bike, but I hate the rower, so 298 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: I do the bike. It's like, well, I get that, 299 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying don't do the bike, but I'm saying, 300 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: maybe the roller would be good because your body's not 301 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: conditioned to the rower because you avoid it. So maybe 302 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: there's some physiological benefit in doing the thing you don't 303 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: normally do. Maybe you create an adaptive response because one 304 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: of the things that you want is you want to 305 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: change your body. But you always sit on the bike 306 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: and you do the same bike in the same at 307 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: the same speed for the same amount of time, and 308 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: then get frustrated because nothing's changed. You know, well, nothing 309 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: changes because there's no physiological need because you never create 310 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: a new kind of stimulus. You're just in an exercise 311 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: groundhog day. So yeah, I don't know how we got here, 312 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: but that all started with me walking. 313 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: More started from your morning walk. When I in the 314 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: fight camps, when I get really fit, and I would 315 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: we warm up with really hard skipping sprints, and I 316 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: can skip as hard as. 317 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I can and kind of not hit the red. 318 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Zone on my heart rate monitor. And when it gets 319 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: to that point, I would skip moderately but run backwards 320 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: and forwards at the same time. So just and moderate, 321 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: like not fast at all. My heart rate would go 322 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: through the roof because you've got all this new stuff 323 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: going through your brain trying to figure out the coordination 324 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: of Oh now I'm not just pushing this thing. I 325 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 2: know how to do as hard as I can. I'm 326 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: going forwards and then backwards and doing that at the 327 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: same time. It's really fascinating. 328 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's chucking in another variable. 329 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 330 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like I've got two weight vests at my place, 331 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: and one of them holds what does it hold? One 332 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: of them holds. This is in pounds, right, a dinosaur. 333 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: All right, I don't do it in no, I'll do 334 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: it in kilos. So one of them holds about twenty kilos, 335 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: twenty five kilos, but the other one, Tiffany and Cook, 336 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: holds seventy kilos. What yeah, so that's one hundred me. Yeah, 337 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: that's one hundred and fifty four pounds. And so I've 338 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: only put on the seventy kilos about three times. And 339 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: so my block where I live, if I walk out 340 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: and just turn left left, left, left, and end up 341 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: back at my joint and walking with that, it's what 342 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: it's seventy kilos. So it's like piggybacking you and you're 343 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: piggybacking at ten and you've got a ten kilo backpack on. Right. Wow, 344 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: that is and I mean literally it's a nine hundred 345 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: meters walk. Yeah, it is fucking agony. It's like the 346 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: first time I did it. And one of the other 347 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: realities of this particular thing is getting this seventy kilo 348 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: pack on and off is harder than the actual walking. 349 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: So what you've got to do is you lay. So 350 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: there's thirty five kilos front, thirty five kilos pack, So 351 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: you lay the the the vest on the bench and 352 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: you lay It's hard to explain, but you need to 353 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: lay it out length wise on the bench, so the 354 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: back is higher up on the bench and the front 355 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: is lower down, and you literally lay on the weights 356 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: the front part of the vest. You put your head 357 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: through the vest. Then you need to try and get 358 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: the weights over your back while doing It's maybe I 359 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: was going to say I'll do a video. I definitely won't. 360 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: No one needs to see it. But oh it's a 361 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: it's a motherfucker, but yeah, it's but even nothing ridiculous 362 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: like that. But even getting a weight vest where you 363 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: put on ten kilos, so instead of being Tiff who 364 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: weighs sixty, now you're Tiff who weighs seventy, and you 365 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: go for your normal walk, and you try and do 366 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: your normal walk at your normal pace with your dog 367 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: and do all the things you normally do, so it's 368 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: a it's not a crazy weight. But yeah, even just that, 369 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: let's see, what's ten kilos as a percentage of sixty 370 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: is it's around fifteen sixteen percent, So that's about sixteen 371 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: percent of your body weight ten kilos, So that's a 372 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: sixteen percent increase. 373 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that one. 374 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: And I would think the energy expenditure would be I'm 375 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: making this up, but it would be definitely somewhere in 376 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: the thirty to fifty, maybe twenty to thirty, maybe twenty 377 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: to thirty. And that's doing in it And that's not hard. 378 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard, but you know, so even just 379 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: and this is the whole idea of progression. If you 380 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: don't want to run or you don't want to and 381 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: that's cool. But you know another thing I saw yesterday 382 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: or not yesterday, the other day. Just quickly before we 383 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: keep avoiding the topic, we're talking about how long have 384 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: we been talking? By the way, actually minutes, well have 385 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: we it's the world's longest intro. So this lady was 386 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: on what was she on? What was she on? She 387 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: was on Huberman and she was talking. She's an exercise scientist, 388 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: this lady and research of PhD. Straight up smarty pants. 389 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: Probably I don't know, I might be being rude when I 390 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: say she looks. I think she's around my age, so 391 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: I would guess anywhere kind of fifty five plus. It 392 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: could be wrong, but anyway, she was talking about what 393 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: the her three things that people should do who are older, 394 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: absolute non negotiables. So one obviously is heavy strength training, 395 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: and by heavy we mean relative to the individual, of course, 396 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: so some people five kilos heavy, for some people twenty 397 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: kilos is light. So we're talking about relative to the 398 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: individual with good form who's already built up a base. 399 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: But eventually when that person gets to just so to 400 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: be doing some strength training that's hard and progressive. That 401 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: was one you're never going to next guess the next two, 402 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: the next. The second one, not in order of importance, 403 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: is sprinting. Did you know that ninety five percent of 404 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: people once they reach thirty never sprint again. They might, 405 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, semisprint for the odd taxi. But in 406 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: terms of actually going, can like do some kind of 407 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: training where they're running at almost so Obviously, again there 408 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: are lots of variables around that, and this is not 409 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: a recommendation, and you've got to stretch and you've got 410 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: to build up all that shit. Right, But let's say 411 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: in a perfect world that we don't live in. But 412 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: so strength training, sprinting, and the other one is bouncing, 413 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: so where both of your feet are off the ground, 414 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: not bouncing on a bouncer, bouncing, so you are literally 415 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: pushing your weight off the earth, so you and your 416 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: feet are leaving the earth momentarily. And then I had 417 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: a look at a protocol it's like one minute, one minute, 418 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and I did one minute, and I'm like, yeah, that 419 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: that works. I did one minute just on outside my joint, 420 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: on fake grass. But I'm like, yeah, I could. It 421 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: was all right. It wasn't horrendous. But I'm like, if 422 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I did two minutes of that, I think I would 423 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: be fucked. But yeah, you know, it's funny, so these 424 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: little protocols because you think about when you have impact, 425 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: like not reckless, dangerous impact, but a degree of impact. 426 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: Where you're now, you're working against your strength and your 427 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: spine and your bone mass, and your strength is working 428 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: against gravity to help you momentarily leave the Earth. So 429 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: to speak. By the Earth, I mean terra firma, not 430 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: the orbit of the Earth, just the fucking just the 431 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: bit below your feet. Imagine that I jumped up, I 432 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: landed on the Moon. I just wanted to do one 433 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: minutes of plios Okay, and here I am just next 434 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: to the space station. Buck. That's what it's like being 435 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: an only child. 436 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: Tip you should have another day in the hammock. You're 437 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: you're quite on fire today. 438 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I know I'm amusing at some mark, aren't I all Right? 439 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: So do you want to just keep banging on about 440 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: this mindless shit or should we do the actual topic 441 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: we were going to do, or should we do that 442 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: another day? 443 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, it's entirely out to youhaps I'm quite 444 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: amused either way. 445 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: I think we might we might leave this idea for 446 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: another day because I feel like I feel like we're 447 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: I think this would almost be enough for a little 448 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: a little episode. But I think, like I know that 449 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: we've spoken a lot over the years periodically, like we've 450 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: we've probably had out of the seventeen hundred and something episodes, 451 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: we've probably had twenty episodes where we've covered similar stuff. 452 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: But I just think it's good for us to think about, 453 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, for those of us who exercise, or even 454 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: those of us who don't, if you want to think 455 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: about exercising, I think one of the one of the 456 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: emotional and psychological hurdles for people is that you need 457 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: to become a gym person, or you need to become 458 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: a fitness person, or you need to become something that 459 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: you're not. And you absolutely don't, you absolutely don't. But 460 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: but what I do know, I don't know what you 461 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: the listener should individually do. But what I do know 462 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: is that body's done the right way consistently, his benefit 463 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: from from movement and from load and from variety and 464 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: from some progression and from working against resistance and you know, 465 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: being being kind of somewhat diligent with that even when 466 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: it ain't fun. You know, every every one of us 467 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: has a body, and that body is going to fucking 468 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: fall apart. Eventually, the body is going to decline. You 469 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: are going to lose bone density and strength and muscle 470 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: and function and balance and fucking bladder control, and all 471 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: of these things happen eventually that like, nobody misses out, nobody, 472 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: nobody comes out alive, everybody. But it's like, I think, 473 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: I just get what's the word. I get passionate about 474 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: this because well, you know, I'm watching quite a few 475 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: people my parents' age and their friends and my own 476 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: parents and dealing with some you know, some confronting things 477 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: at the moment that don't need to be divulged here. 478 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, there's an inevitability. And I also 479 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: look at some people that are dealing with things right now, 480 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and also some of the people that I've worked with 481 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: over the years or just observed over the years, where 482 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: I can't say with absolute certainty because I don't have 483 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: a crystal ball, but I say with a lot of 484 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: confidence that if this particular person or that particular person 485 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: had have done certain things over the last thirty years, 486 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: instead of each shit and sit on the couch. They 487 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: would be in a very different place now, like their 488 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: body would, their function, their quality of life, their lifestyle, 489 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: their capacity would be nothing like it currently is. You know, 490 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: and I think that weaving whatever, whether or not it's 491 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: just going for a walk five times a day for 492 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: a k, or whether or not it's doing some step 493 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: ups on the bench or the backstep, or whether or 494 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: not it's doing a prone hold, or whether or not 495 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: it is actually joining a gym. I mean, it's never 496 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 1: been a better time, not in my lifetime anyway. Like 497 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: when I grew up, costing a gym, costing joining a 498 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: gym was not cheap, like I remember gyms that I 499 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: worked in forty years ago. It was five hundred to 500 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a year to join a gym then. 501 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: And you can join a gym now for about five 502 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Depends which gym and what membership, and you 503 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: know where you get in, and you know there's all 504 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: these offers going on constantly, and so for ten bucks 505 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: a week, even if you're not a gym person, doesn't matter. 506 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now for ten bucks a week, 507 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: you've got a million dollars worth of gym equipment that 508 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: you can use twenty four hours a day that is 509 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: just good for your body. So how often. 510 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: You gone, oh, it's interesting, like what our relationship with 511 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: the idea of exercise or training or the body or 512 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: fitness is. And I reckon, you know, because you talk 513 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: to most people who who have fitness as part of 514 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: their life, it's so frequent that you hear people saying, well, 515 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: I do I mean, I do that from my mental 516 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: health though, so they've made the correlation that what I 517 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: do with my body is good for my mind and 518 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: good for my emotions, good for my energy. Definitely, it's 519 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: interesting to look at what starts it off, what our 520 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: resistance is, what our mindset around, the idea of it, 521 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: and the story of it is, the prevents from getting started, 522 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: because I think we can start from a really laborious 523 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't like my body, and now I have to 524 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: do this and it's this shit thing that I don't like. 525 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: They it's in the way of process, yea. 526 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: And how many people start to exercise for their body 527 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: and then realize how great it is for their emotions, 528 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: for their anxiety, for their depression, for their mental focus memory, 529 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: like oh, oh, this is it's almost like the body 530 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: benefits are secondary. Yeah, you know, the physiology is that's 531 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: just a bonus, But fuck, I feel good. Yeah, Like, 532 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: there are very few people who start to work out 533 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: if they do it, you know, the right way. I 534 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: don't mean to start off like seventy two workouts a week, 535 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: but just who don't talk about the fact that they 536 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: feel better, not just physically, but oh yeah when I 537 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: work out, it so many people have said to me, 538 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: when I exercize in the morning sets me up for 539 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the day, I feel amazing. If I don't do it, 540 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I feel shit, you know. So, But then they do 541 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: this thing and it creates all this great biochemical stuff 542 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: in the brain. But I also think that like back 543 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: to what you said, which is something like the relationship 544 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: we have with exercise. But it's almost like some people 545 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: think about having to exercise as some kind of fucking punishment. 546 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a gift. Like what about our friend 547 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: Joel who lives in a wheelchair. What about our friend 548 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Johnny who's got a spinal cord injury and a brain injury. 549 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: What about It's like, if you can exercise, you're fucking gifted, 550 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Like you're blessed you know that. Ah, I'm like, wow, 551 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, like I don't mean sound judgy, and maybe 552 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: that does, so I apologize if it does. But for 553 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: me having worked with people who don't have the option, 554 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: a lot of them who can't go for a walk, 555 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: who can't get out of a chair, who can't lift 556 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: a weight, and then and then who would do anything 557 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: to be able to go for lift a weight, stand up, 558 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: sit in a car, get out of a car, you know, 559 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: get on a step ladder and get a cup down 560 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: from the cupboard whatever. Just that shit that we take 561 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: for granted. And so often we just do dumb shit 562 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: to our body because we're lazy, or we're disinterested, or 563 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: we tell ourselves a story. You know. It's like, ah, 564 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm not an exercise I'm not a fitness And then 565 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: also what I should shut up because I feel like 566 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to disenfranchise people, but people who run people 567 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: down who exercise. Like the amount of people over the 568 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: years who have criticized me because I work out every day. 569 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's not fifty percent, but it's more than 570 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: you would think. It's like you're obsessed and I'm not obsessed. 571 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: I just can't get another body. This is the only 572 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: one I've got. And so when I do this to 573 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: my body for my body, my body works better, I 574 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: work better, my life is better. But it's easier for 575 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: them to criticize you than to acknowledge perhaps what they 576 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: should be doing or what they're not doing. So rather 577 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: than go, oh, I could be inspired, or I could learn, 578 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: or I could whatever from whoever. It is not me, 579 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not an inspiration, but or maybe you know, I. 580 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: Could just acknowledge that someone's protocol is different to mine. 581 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: Yes, or I don't even need to fucking comment on 582 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: you know. It's like if people could sit on the 583 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: couch and eat shit and get good outcomes, I would 584 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: be all for it. But nobody in the history of 585 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: history has ever eaten sat on the couch, eating shit, 586 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: drinking booze, doing fuck all, having bad health, our bad 587 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: behavioral sorry, bad exercise and food habits and lifestyle habits, 588 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: and produced a good outcome. Nobody, right, So it's not 589 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: like this is an opinion. 590 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: There's more options though, for people to get fit and 591 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: get moving, and they get boxed into which gym and 592 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: which type of training that am I going to do 593 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: to grapple my body into looking the way I want 594 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: it to. And it's like me driving now frequently for 595 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: an hour to get to the Daninongs because the experience 596 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: when I get there, like it's hard to make that 597 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,959 Speaker 2: drive because I'm like, it's a lot of my day. 598 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: That's a lot of my day. And then I get 599 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: there and I'm like, this is so fucking worth it. It 600 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: is so beautiful. And then I find these little hills 601 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: and I go up and down and sometimes I have 602 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: a little bit of a fast paced trot and I 603 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: make friends within a kidnap and I'm like, this is 604 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 2: so different to the training that I have gotten used 605 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 2: to doing all this time that I'm recalibrating. 606 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also this is for another day, another chat. 607 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, when you are doing that 608 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff that we're talking about, or a version 609 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 1: of the stuff that we're talking about in nature, that's 610 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: another layer, that's another level because you're doing all this 611 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: great ship for your body. But now you're doing all 612 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: this stuff that's it's almost transcendent, you know. It's not 613 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: like you know, getting in nature, it's like going back 614 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: to nature because we are nature like for most of 615 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: our evolutionary timeline, us and nature have been intertwined. It's 616 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: only very very very recently in terms of the evolutionary 617 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: timeline that we've lived in concrete jungles. But most of 618 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: our existence we had our feet in the dirt. Literally literally, 619 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: like shoes are fucking new, you know what I mean? Yeah, 620 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of what we have today, you know. So, Yeah, I. 621 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: Got like I up there, got so overwhelmed with emotion 622 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: and gratitude and a level of presence that I just 623 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 2: I just haven't experienced for no reason before. Like I 624 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 2: wasn't in India, I wasn't on a mountain. I was 625 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: down the road on a little dirt track at the 626 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: Daninongs and I just stopped and I was like, I 627 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: feel this right now? How fucking good is my life? 628 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: Yep? Yeah, yep. Isn't that interesting? It's like when you do. 629 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: One of my mentors back in the day used to 630 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: tell me, and I now tell people. So it's not 631 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: to Craig concepts, So give me no accolades. But every 632 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: day you'd say, every day, get up and do a 633 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: treasure hunt on your life, you know, like think about 634 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: the shit in your life. That's and you know that 635 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: stuff that I talk about. Can you walk up some stairs, 636 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: Can you turn on a tap? Can you open a 637 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: fridge and there's food in it? Can you press a 638 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: button and cold air or warm air comes out? Do 639 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: you have a car? Can do you have a job? 640 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Do you have any money? Does someone love you? You know, 641 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: it's like very is so much, And of course the 642 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: answer is not yes for all of our listeners to 643 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: all of those questions. I understand that. But you know, 644 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: when I think about what so many people in the 645 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: world don't have, Like two and a half two and 646 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 1: a half billion people in the world don't have clean water. 647 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: Like We're not talking about a small percentage. We're talking 648 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: about thirty five percent of the people on the planet. 649 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: They can't turn on a tap and have glass of water. 650 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm privileged, And I'm not privileged because 651 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: I go and talk for NAB in front of a 652 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: thousand people and earn this or do that or have 653 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: a PODCA. I'm privileged because I can turn on a 654 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: tap and there's water. I'm privileged because I live in 655 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: a country where, for the most part, I'm safe. There's 656 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: no bombs being dropped where I live. There's no rubble 657 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: for me to have to crawl through to try to 658 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: find something to eat where I live. I mean, this 659 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: is I know, we've got fucking deep and philosophical. We've 660 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: done a left turn at the fitness and now we're 661 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: diving into gratitude. See this is what you get here, folks. 662 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: It's like you went to the supermarket to get bananas 663 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: and you came out with whiskey and a fucking bread 664 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: roll and maybe some I don't know, Glenn twenty ah. Anyway, 665 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: all right, I feel we're waffling, but good chat TIV 666 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: as always, who knew, See you next time.