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Speaker 1: another immortal about to be named. The rules once worthy

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Speaker 2: Are available for selection. Give me power to do that?

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Brother Stampton?

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Speaker 2: The reduction?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Coops, because the concept originally started was

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Speaker 1: regular geek who did it? But I was I think

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Speaker 4: So you have to be Hall of fame first before

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Speaker 4: a mortal, right, and they've just changed that from five.

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Speaker 3: Years to three years.

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Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Jesus some good players through the generation that

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Speaker 4: would absolutely deserve being.

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Speaker 1: Give me five in your opinion, that deserve consideration.

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Speaker 4: So I'll go sort of my generation of the one

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Speaker 4: I understand. So I'm not going to go back early

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Speaker 4: days to know what the great Coat and everything did,

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Speaker 4: So I going to go Fittler and Lockier. I think

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Speaker 4: two positions full back five eighty was the best at it.

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Speaker 4: And then you talk about I understand why some commentary

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Speaker 3: But I argue, if they're the best of what they've.

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Speaker 4: Done, just throw them at like even if there's ten like,

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Speaker 4: if they're the best of what they've done, do it.

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Speaker 3: But JT.

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Speaker 4: Smith, Slater, Smith and Slayer the best dummy half and

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Speaker 4: your brothers the best half back. So those fit are

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Speaker 1: The five, I've picked the sort of from different generations,

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Speaker 1: Laso down like Laso, you know, he is just one

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Speaker 2: Winners the game has seen.

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Speaker 3: So what five or six? I think it was six.

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Speaker 1: So it wins the Grand Final. He goes back to

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Speaker 1: Then he Brisbane can't win a competition, right, there's a

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Speaker 1: missing injury. So he went, so Wayne, Wayne went and

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Speaker 4: When we talk about influential players, we normally go to

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Speaker 4: have done that in the front row position, incredible career.

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Speaker 1: When Chris Anderson built that roster at the with the

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Speaker 1: What he did he said, just give me a great

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Speaker 2: The other one Ron Court. You know, and Ron as

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Speaker 1: Phenomenal player really you know, known for his he was

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Speaker 1: Just an absolute champion guy. Ronnie could in an era,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did, yes, Yeah he played a lot. The

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Speaker 4: Give me a bit more on Kenny because in that

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night is Steve Rodgers Coops. Steve Rodgers wasn't just

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Speaker 1: There little story about Barry Andrews, who was Steve Rodgers's

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Speaker 1: It says, well, my old man coach Barry Andrews. It's

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Speaker 1: He's sitting in the middle and he's sitting there on

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is when you talk about like immortals,

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Speaker 3: Move they go move like Steve Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: There's that kind of influence and in print on the

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Speaker 4: that man, let's talk about the finals. So there is

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Speaker 4: say that Tiger's eel's gone. So souths seven wins from

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Speaker 4: eight games, thirty two points is the number you get to.

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Speaker 4: Let's just who makes it, Like, let's crunch like South

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't Titans playing great football map. I don't see

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Speaker 4: So the big one here is the Broncos. After losing

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Speaker 1: Coops they cannot tell them, but the is will they

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Speaker 2: They will know?

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Speaker 4: You Like with six from seven. They've got the Knights

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Speaker 4: next week, then the Dogs in a month's time. Four

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Speaker 4: they could probably put that hot streak together and win

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Speaker 3: But is it not the way.

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Speaker 1: They play cops. Their last two games is they've got

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, so Drek and Wayne all have them up

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Speaker 1: the Battle of RISB and Dolphins could be fighting for

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Speaker 1: Storm to finish with. Now Melbourne Storm might rest some players,

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Speaker 4: Now we're starting to put a line through the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Like the Warriors, they've got six from seven. The Raiders

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Speaker 4: so you could almost start putting.

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Speaker 3: Lines through sure, and the Knights they rely on their

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Speaker 4: They're five from seven games. So now we just literally

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Speaker 4: I think in the next two weeks, Mattie, I reckon

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Speaker 2: Well, Coops.

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Speaker 1: I really like what the Dragons are doing. They're huge improvement,

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Speaker 3: Yeah they are.

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Speaker 4: The issue with the Dragons is they've got that power game.

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Speaker 1: So mainly have been flaky, but I was really encouraged

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Speaker 2: To be, yes, and I think they'll get there.

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Speaker 1: You coming back from Origin Brooks looked good on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they get there. Same with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: The Dogs and Dolphins, I'm desperate to see the Dogs there.

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Speaker 1: God, I hope the Dogs make it. They deserve well.

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Speaker 1: The bottom Wine Coop.

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Speaker 4: I think both teams deserve to make it. Yeah they do,

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Speaker 4: But there are some trigger games for both clubs.

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Speaker 1: And momentum, momentum and confidence. It appears suddenly sometimes and

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone in the bottom half of the

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Speaker 4: But it's big for all those clubs to get finals.

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Speaker 4: Like dogs, Dolphins didn't play manly Cowboys. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: The reason I say that the Dolphins get there is

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Speaker 4: And when you try and judge whether they can win

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like, that's the thing about it, Coop. So if

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Speaker 4: That's that's a skill to do because you're moving sort

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Speaker 4: it and literally not even get too much of your

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Speaker 1: If we have a look at that angle again, Scotty's

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Speaker 1: when Brooksy hit it's it's not an end over, it's

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Speaker 1: to that ball and Lehigh just plucks it out, foods

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Speaker 3: Like this is really high end skill.

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Speaker 4: If he catches that ball on his chest, he actually

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Speaker 4: does have the time to put it out and pass

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Speaker 4: the fact that he catches in his fingertips and.

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Speaker 3: Just throws it in one motion. The hell of a player.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like John Hoppowardi and all the other

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Speaker 1: more of a you know what I mean, Like he's

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Speaker 3: Did you like what Turbo did in the Full Bay?

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Speaker 2: I did? You know?

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Speaker 1: You know what I liked about him, Coops, is that

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Speaker 1: He actually reverted back to some of the stuff he

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Speaker 1: a lot of ball playing yesterday at first receiver, pushing the.

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Speaker 2: Ball out to the edges.

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Speaker 1: Very very classy, and I've got to give it a

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Speaker 1: shout out too to Jamie Humphries. I thought Jamie Humphreys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they attacked Newcastle centers.

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Speaker 4: They had young back rollers playing out of position defending there.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to give seabolt to Wrap like it

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Speaker 4: it's all in with Manly and Turbot. You have to like,

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Speaker 4: they're not going to win a finals game with Turbo

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Speaker 4: playing in the Center's sort of seventy five percent not

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Speaker 4: going well, So it's almost like just put all your

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Speaker 4: finals match with him at one. If there is at fullback,

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Speaker 4: they're not Okay.

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Speaker 1: Trey Fuller, I see this coups like he's too good

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Speaker 1: moment at the moment, he's one of the on form,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best, one of the best attacking

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Speaker 1: players in the competition. Am I over stretching that at

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Speaker 4: So are you thinking Trey Fuller stays at fullback and

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Speaker 4: the hammer goes the Senate?

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you think that

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Speaker 1: Wayne would entertain that putting hammer in the center's leaving

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Speaker 1: Trey there because he's given him so much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is, and he will entertain it. But it's

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Speaker 4: a bit like the Travoievich conversion for me, Hamers try

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Speaker 4: against the Sharks, Like sometimes finals are just about moments,

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Speaker 4: and your best players deliver moments.

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Speaker 3: And is he going to touch the ball ten times

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Speaker 4: Is he going to touch it twenty times at fullback?

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Speaker 4: Yes he is, and he's definitely gonna have a bigger

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Speaker 4: chance of doing something with twenty touches and ten, So yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe he does.

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Speaker 3: Wayne thinks about it. But I just like the fact that.

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Speaker 4: Gun players give them their best position and just go

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Speaker 4: on and fill in the rest, because the last thing

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Speaker 4: you need to be doing.

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Speaker 3: Is I'm not going to say he's going to get

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Speaker 4: But Troy fully just hesitates slightly in a big game,

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Speaker 4: whereas Hamber would like what he's done in Origin, he

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Speaker 1: Now, we spoke last week about Jason Rowl's been paring

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Speaker 1: out a coach, and we spoke about the roster hard

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Speaker 1: roster to turn over with. There's a lot of big

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Speaker 1: clubs looking for players at the moment, so it's going

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Speaker 1: to be hard to recruit.

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Speaker 4: We spoke about it not being as good as it

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Speaker 4: looks on paper.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that they need they need to put They basically.

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Speaker 2: Need to mix the salad up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I recruiting players, yes, but I think positionally moving

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Speaker 1: a few blokes, I'd see what I what I would

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Speaker 1: experiment or consider if I was if I was Jason Rowls,

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Speaker 1: I think Gutho. I think Gatho's it's time for him

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Speaker 1: to move out of fullback. I think I think Guthho.

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Speaker 1: I'd have a crack a blaze.

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Speaker 2: To Lungey at fullback.

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Speaker 1: First, he's he's got to shure him up and make

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Speaker 1: sure he stays there. I'd have Gutho on the six,

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Speaker 1: Moses in the seven and Dylan.

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Speaker 3: Brown in the thirdeen Dylan Brown third A.

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Speaker 1: I'd put Dylan Brown the thirteen. Dylan Brown.

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Speaker 3: Why would you do?

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Speaker 1: Well, big body running through the middle, and the other

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Speaker 1: which is running the football. I think sometimes at six

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Speaker 1: you get little cues about players, and when I see

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Speaker 1: Dylan start to do the na look passes and I go.

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Speaker 2: Run the football, I just.

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Speaker 1: Think, look, you know, is he would he be a

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Speaker 1: better thirteen than the six?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but I would.

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Speaker 1: I do believe the Paramatta would be a better side

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Speaker 3: I understand it. I think their forward pack needs to

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Speaker 4: So if I'm Jason Rowles, I am changing things up

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Speaker 4: a little bit. I think I think Gutherson to a

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Speaker 4: it like Gutherson moved to center and to Lungey. I

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Speaker 4: would swap them in and out because Telungi needs to

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Speaker 4: understand the defensive side of the game, and Gutherson is

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Speaker 4: a very good defensive fullback still, so I would move

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Speaker 4: I'm not moving Dylan Brown. I just think Moses and

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Speaker 4: Brown is the reason why I would be interested in

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Speaker 4: the Eel's job for starters, and they could be the

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Speaker 4: best halves combo. They don't need a dynamic dummy half

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Speaker 3: They don't need a ball playing thirteen.

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Speaker 4: With those two there, I would be giving them the

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Speaker 4: I think they're forward back and it's probably the strength

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Speaker 4: of Roles is that here's a defensive minded middle forward coach.

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Speaker 4: They need a lot more steel and grit in that

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Speaker 4: defensive revel.

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Speaker 3: But wouldn't move Moses and Brown.

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Speaker 1: State of origin the decider at Saint Corpse Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to stop the rugby league world to.

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Speaker 1: Have you played a decider at Saint Corpse Stadium a

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Speaker 1: couple of times?

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Speaker 2: How was it? What's is it completely different?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something in the water, something in the air

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Speaker 4: to work with the marone jersey.

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Speaker 3: The flags are on the cars and it's it's it's

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Speaker 4: The issue with Queensland and Billy is that the the

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Speaker 4: really finite fine balance. But it works one way and

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that community connection is a

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Speaker 2: Cooper.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what year it was. I had to go.

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Speaker 2: I had to go and interview.

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Speaker 1: I think it might have been Steve Waters who was

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Speaker 3: So we actually let you in while I was on

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Speaker 3: the proof read rage.

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Speaker 1: I was just sitting on the proof rewatching but wanting

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Speaker 1: to be about ten years ago Lockie was still playing captain.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: So what team bus pulls up for you blokes to

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Speaker 1: jump on board the bus and go back to the hotel.

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Speaker 1: the hotel and new blokes ran through the streets and

444
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 1: what people come out of the houses, out of the

445
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: Queenslanders and things like that and waving, and I got

446
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 1: a real sense of that community spirit, the link between

447
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: the community and the team.

448
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: I've never asked Lucky this or whatever, but I think

449
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 4: it was a plan. I think he did say we're

450
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 4: running back. So he ran from a boxing session along

451
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 4: the river, all in front of the apartments, all in

452
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 4: front of the It would have been around lunchtime because

453
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 4: all the restaurants were full and basically up into the

454
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 4: city and it felt like people as like you started

455
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: running further, people started coming out onto the streets and.

456
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: Was run up the stairs in front of a museum.

457
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it did have that. Did have that, and

458
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: it got the juices flowing.

459
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie like there was something that he

460
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: obviously played a card and it worked. So yeah, it's

461
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: probably the power of what playing the Decider and Queensland

462
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 4: does for you.

463
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: Like there is a lot of emotion around.

464
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: It still with the line up for a second coop,

465
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of mail going around. I don't

466
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: know why I'm getting this came out of the Queensland.

467
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: I don't believe a little bit. If you've got mail

468
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 3: over me from the Queensland, yeah, I don't believe.

469
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: There's there's a little bit of talk that Harry Grant

470
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: will start.

471
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: There's a bit of talk going around and the other thing.

472
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: The other thing's going around is a Waker will start

473
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: and bring Lindsey Collins off the bench. That's the mail.

474
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: There's a bit of mail going around.

475
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: If that was to happen, why.

476
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: Um well, Harry Grant is an eighty minute dummy half

477
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: so that's not a huge surprise. I think if the

478
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: fodder Wakers starts Clemsey on, there's a couple of things

479
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: that the Queensland Ford Pack have to do. They have

480
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 4: to stop Painhass from the word go. I think yes,

481
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 4: Moses was terrific. Left side attack was great, but everything

482
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: pain Hass did in terms of his meters damage to

483
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: Queensland defensive line and then when he went off spencer

484
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 4: Land you came on and started wrecking ball too.

485
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: So if I'm guessing.

486
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 4: Billy White, go ak, Patrick Harrigan, your job is paying

487
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 4: huss and Lindsay come on here, your teammate from the roosters.

488
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: Your job is to stop him.

489
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, so he's gone sort of mate versus mate

490
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 4: state verse eight.

491
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: Right, that's me guessing. But I also like the Harry

492
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: Grant thing because this guy can dominate origin, He can

493
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: dominate for eighty eight minutes.

494
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: He can do it like some of the other greats

495
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: have done it. And I think this could be the

496
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 4: chance Billy's gone. You know what, there's your good time

497
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: to shine.

498
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, coops. If he blokes start winning

499
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: the artist.

500
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: Or more to the point, win the win the possession

501
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: game at that twenty twenty five minute mark, that second

502
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: wave that comes out could be huge, given the fact

503
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: that you get Lindsay coming on, possibly Ben Hunt for

504
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: a stint, but the big one if he blokes a

505
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: dominating possession Calen Ponger coming into a game against a

506
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: middle that's fatigued, I don't know if we can contain that.

507
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 4: If that's a case, that's perfect world scenario, and I

508
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: think that's exactly what Billy is thinking, and he will

509
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: have a plan, and it would be let's say Cherry

510
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: Evans did and Ponger restwash. That's simply what it is.

511
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 4: Maybe Ben Hunt is on there at the same time too.

512
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 4: But what he needs to do is he needs the

513
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 4: time he's run to perfection. He needs to try and

514
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 4: predict when there's a swing of possession his way. He's

515
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 4: the last thing he needs to be doing.

516
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: Aving little little guys in the middle up against New

517
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: South Wales and Spencer Lenu tackling. So it's almost like

518
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: Kaylin sit.

519
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: There and when I feel like this momentum shifting and

520
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: they get a repeat set, throw him out there straight away.

521
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: We see going in game two is going to be

522
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: a huge clash Stephen Crichton against the hammer and on

523
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: Steve's right or just going to the same thing, Kaylen

524
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: Ponger on those little sweet plays. I mean that's his

525
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: sweet spot in around that third last of fan you know,

526
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: dummy and go cut inside, double cut out pass. Crichton's

527
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: on that eage'. That's a that's a hell of a matchup.

528
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: I really respect Stephen Crichton, like I think he's one

529
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: of the best players we have in the competition and

530
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 4: as a ball player and someone that tries to pick

531
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: a part the opposition. If I'm looking and I've got

532
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: Stephen Crichton on the right and I've got Bradman Best

533
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 4: on the left. I'm going left towards Bradman Best. I

534
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 4: just think that Calen Ponger knows him inside out. He

535
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: does have defensive deficiencies in his game, where Stephen Crichton

536
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 4: is going to be very hard to pick apart, so

537
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 4: you probably need to do a little bit. But at

538
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: some stage, if I was Billy, I would put Ponger

539
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: and Walsh with Jeremiah Nana in front of me going

540
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: towards Best, like put all three of them in some

541
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: form of shape and just make him second.

542
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: Guess really talking about I don't know, knowing someone inside out,

543
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: Dane gag Guy and Bradman. I mean he'sy mentored Bradman.

544
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: That's It's a really interesting matchup. I love I loved

545
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: it from a neutral perspective. I love the fact that

546
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: Dan Dane Gay guys back in State of Origin as

547
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: a Blue. I'm hugely concerned because you talk about a

548
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: bloke who turns on his best football. He does the occasion.

549
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: But the other part to it is New South Wales

550
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: terrorized Queenland's right edge that first footing minutes in the

551
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: game too. Nana didn't defend well Cherry Evans didn't and

552
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 4: Valentine Holmes was the missed a lot of tackles. So

553
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 4: if they're gonna play well Queensland, I almost think that

554
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: those three need to stop Moses, Lewy Angus, Crichton Edwards

555
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: will be around there, but a couple of the old

556
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: stages in terms of Queensland. If they're going to win

557
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 4: a decide, I think Gag Guy and Cherry Evans need

558
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: to have their best defensive game for Queensland.

559
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: Ever for them to win.

560
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: You said decent, he's old hat at this sort of

561
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, like he's been in this situation numerous times

562
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: and he's delivered. It's a huge challenge for Mitchell. Moses

563
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: Mitchell was fantastic in Game two and he's very good

564
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: in game through last year. But this a decider at

565
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: some Corb stadium. And as you know, when you get

566
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: in those really big occasions is with the amount of

567
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: noise going on, it is so hard to be able

568
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: to communicate and rally your teammates and forwards.

569
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: In the position.

570
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I was going to say, what advice would you give

571
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: to Mitchell, I'm not going to ask you that. I'm

572
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: not going to put you in that position, but your

573
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: thoughts on it handling that occasion.

574
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: I think if he's got a mindset of doing exactly

575
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: what he did in Game two, I actually think it's

576
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: the wrong mindset.

577
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 3: This is strangely enough, because you really think the.

578
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: Queens is going to allow quick play the balls advantage

579
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: to their forward pack time and space and they dominated

580
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 4: possession attacking end of the field.

581
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's going to happen.

582
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: So I think patients and composures from Mitchell Moses is

583
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: going to have to be the key he needs to.

584
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: One of the things that I always.

585
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 4: Thought about in a big game, particularly Origin Decider, was

586
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: touch the ball basically through your kicking game. If you

587
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: see an opportunity to take it, but just step back,

588
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: do less, step back and let the big forwards butt

589
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: heads for a period of time and let them win.

590
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: Because there's this real ego battle in Origin, particularly early on,

591
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 4: when your forwards feel like they're getting it, you've got

592
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: to let them go and let them rain. Don't take

593
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 4: the ball and start singing at sideways. So I think

594
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: the best thing that Mitchell Moses and Cherry Evans, to

595
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: be honest, the best thing they can do in the

596
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: first ten minutes.

597
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: Is kick the ball?

598
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, that's right.

599
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Just think about the end of the sets.

600
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: But then he will and both half backs will have

601
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: to have a game plan for the last ten to

602
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: five minutes when it's tight. Because if I'm trying to

603
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: predict this, I think it's golden point top styl.

604
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Coop, what's the scool line? Who's mean of

605
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: the match?

606
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: I'm going to go golden point. I think it's going

607
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: to be tight. Hopefully Queensland kicked that field goal to

608
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: win it. I'm actually going to I'm going all in

609
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: on Walsh on this one. And strangely enough, he had

610
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: a poor game in game two, he got smashed in

611
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: game one and pongers in the team and it feels

612
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: like he probably should be more rattled than ever. But

613
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: I just feel like with Billy's coach and this is

614
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: the type of performance where he just he just goes.

615
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: For big game.

616
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: In terms of Rhese's career, Yeah.

617
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: It is, I think so, and I'm not super confident

618
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: about it, but I'm just trying to guess and predict.

619
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: I think Walsh stands up. That's what I think happens.

620
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm going New South Wales twenty six eighteen man matching

621
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: we on paint hass. I just hope you spoke before

622
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: about his impact and I think he deserves it.

623
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: I think he deserves it.

624
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: I think he I think you said for a dominant performance.

625
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: I tell you well, one thing we needed tip ol

626
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Cap to is the first teams in nineteen eighty about

627
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: Origin and what they did for what the game is today.

628
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: What Arthur Beatson did to Mick cronin mate versus mate,

629
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: State verse state. You've got ga guy up against best,

630
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: You've got Payhause up against Patrick Harry, Lindsay Collins now

631
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: up against s Pensylvania. This is exactly what Origin was

632
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: built back in nineteen eighty and I think this is

633
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 4: going to be.

634
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: One of the better games.

635
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: It's never been bigger State of Origin than what it

636
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: is right now, and it just keeps getting bigger all

637
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: the time till it's interesting to go back and have

638
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: a look at go and have a look at the

639
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight series. In particular. I think it's the

640
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: first game of the series. It's at the brand new

641
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Sydney Football Stadium, grounds half full, it's strange to go

642
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: back and look at because we always looked at this

643
00:30:55,280 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: eight Series eighty eight, who won the eight Series eighty

644
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: five for the first time. I think New South Wales

645
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: might have won that series. But the Sydney Football Stadium

646
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: had just opened and the state of origin was there,

647
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: and the fall was it was probably about twenty odd

648
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: thousand people. Hard to believe now, isn't it.

649
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: Now You could steerd buy a ticket for one thousand

650
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: dollars or some of that.

651
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's a lot of people boycotted it because it

652
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: was the new stadium and you know, ticket prices suddenly

653
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: back then probably went from being twenty bucks to forty

654
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: and people said.

655
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: That's garbage. We're not going to I'm not going to

656
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: do that. It's too expensive.

657
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Well good luck, mate, you'll need it.

658
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: I've just had. It's got him a Queensland clean sweep.

659
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Damn it. Yeah Series eight, Yeah eight. These curbs