WEBVTT - Cleary x Luai: This Is WAR! 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.400 Thank you to all of our listeners who continue to 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.440 listen to us. Look, if you're enjoying the podcast, just 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.680 do us a favorite. Hit that follow button on your 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.559 podcast app right now. It helps us bring your great 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.639 new episodes and make sure that you won't miss anything. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.840 Whether you're on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or anywhere else. Just 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.400 tap follow or subscribe and stay in the loop. Anyway. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.200 Guys, cheers, you just tried just come up to wait. Yeah, 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.759 you said, can we do it another time? And I said, 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.120 we can't do another And I stayed origins this week. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.560 I guess, did I winge? Did I? Did I winge? Did? 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.080 I lay there and refuse? I got up. It's just 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:33.880 a little bit tired. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.760 We got at Mike on for a second because we 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.320 are rolling, so we didn't leave this shit in. But 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:41.400 Matthew's attitude this. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:45.760 Morning, I'm asking jab until you come in then. Now, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:47.879 I don't really care about your attitude so much. I 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.640 care more about the fact that you're walked in and 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.680 you're just doom scrolling on TikTok. And that triggered the 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.880 fuck out of me because I've never seen that before 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:56.840 from a man your age. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.639 I was trying to find that Tom did with that 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:01.560 with that bloke. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.040 Well, here's a chip. You're not going to find it 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.000 by refreshing the home screen the whole time. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.039 I wasn't doing it. I'll scare him backwards. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:08.840 You're fifty three years old, mate. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.520 But I was. I wasn't watching middle aged women dance. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.000 But you're fifty three years. 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.640 Old or cute puppies. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.280 Although although the algorithm will give you that constantly. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.640 Yeah, I did myself when I said the trash TikTok please, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.200 it's just like middle aged women dancing in their bikinis. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.560 She goes, Yeah, your algorithm, that's the algorithm. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.679 They feed you what you want to see. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.560 Oh yeah, but your fifty three mates, I don't care 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:41.600 how four soon mate, it's it's age is a mindset 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:43.160 you don't feel. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.679 Let me just inform you of something. It doesn't matter 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.040 if it's sixty. I got a mate who's well singer, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.720 who is indo late seventies, said to me, you know what, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.160 you never feel any older than twenty five. And I 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:58.840 agree with that. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:01:59.560 I believe that. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.040 I believe once you hit twenty five you stay, even 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.640 though when you look in the mirror you go, who's 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.320 that old blow. You're still the exact same internally. Yeah, 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.320 I believe. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.240 I don't know how we got down this track, but 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:14.280 what I'm trying to say to you is age is relevant, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.640 and the fact that I'm a little bit shitty this 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.600 morning has got nothing to do with me not want 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.960 to do this. It's very fact that every single day 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.040 I've done a podcast this week on top of my 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.280 work schedule. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.600 I guess what, who's up for breakfast rating? 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.000 All I want to say is we've got our loyal listeners, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:31.919 our beautiful listener. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.880 They are an engaging community. We are like a cult. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.840 We're like a cult cultivating the sporting fans as New Zealand. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.280 Totally right, let's do it. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.560 No, you don't want it. You don't like to be told. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.720 No, I don't actually because I get enough off your 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:48.679 mom upstairs. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.280 Hey, guess what your head's right and he goes your 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.440 body can't cash. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.359 You'd be surprised, big check. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.440 All right, state of origin preview again, Get on with it. Yeah, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.720 we're doing it made. I'm not trying it. Jesus, you're 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.160 such a shit. Mood changes. The first thing we want 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.760 to talk about. Let's start with Queensland. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.560 Obviously the biggest one is chairs Dallly Cherry Evans captain 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.440 of queens and he's out for Game two. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.000 He's been not selected. What was your take on it? 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.800 Slightly slightly surprised, not entirely because of the fact that 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.720 the tom Toms were beating Surprised in the fact that 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:34.520 Queensland would sack a captain mid series. That does surprise me. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.520 But I do understand why Billy's done it, and there's 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.920 two reasons before I get to that though. The one 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:46.680 thing that I it's probably a little bit disappointing I 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.520 reckon from Dai's point of view, because I think in 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.120 DAI in a lot of times would sort of understand. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.160 But the very fact that it was leaked out early, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:56.840 like you know what I mean early. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:57.920 It's almost after the games. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.680 It's not Billy's style. I get that, but someone within 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.720 the inner sanctum has told journalists, oh, mate, he's not 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.480 going to be their game too, you know what I mean? 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.800 And given what Dally has done for that state and 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.800 for that Jersey, I thought that the announcement could have 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.800 been handled a lot better rather than just sort of 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:20.960 being leaked out. And because that's what happens. Sometimes they'll 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.720 leak things out to lessen the blow, you know what 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.960 I mean. When he wasn't name, people go, well, yeah 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.880 that was right. If he was just out of the 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.599 blue announced aside and he's not there. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.080 Where does that come from? Like people will say there's 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:33.440 a leak. 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.880 Is that come from within the coaching staff somewhere or 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.120 just within Queensland? 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.480 I don't know. Look, people, there's no doubt the abillity 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.840 would confide in numerous people and every you know. And 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.520 what happens a lot of times is you know, people 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.800 have close relationship with journals, you know, and a journalist 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.960 might go to him, you know, what are you thinking? 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.240 And what are you thinking in there? And it might 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.080 be the old listen mate, I think, yeah, I think 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.120 he's going to leave Deli out. You know, that's just that, 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.960 you know, it's it's not meaning to be vindictive, vindictive 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.240 or anything that. It's just the way the game works. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.520 But for Deli it'd be it would have been disappointing 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.720 here and all those reports come out which turned out 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:17.760 come to fruition. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.359 I look at the decision and at the start, I 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.000 I was probably I looked at it and I went. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.960 That's a big call because he in my opinion, in 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.679 game one, he wasn't in terms of their Spine players. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.120 He was probably their best player anyway in the Spine. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.400 You know the rest of the boys didn't play that well. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.200 But you know, obviously he's gone about the season. I 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.400 think what I look at it right, And I did 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:47.400 think about this before, and I think it does similar 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.920 to like that queens mom from about five six years 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.000 ago when they kind of acxed a lot of those 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.800 older players coming out. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.040 He really surprised me beally a few years ago when 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:01.120 he didn't pick gags and what's he doing? But he 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.000 brought hammer into the side, And. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.760 I think what the message that it sends to the 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.279 whole playing group. But like the Spine player, the youngest 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.599 Spine players like Harry Munster Kaylin did and it's it's 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.720 got to elevate them, right like it's got to elevate 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.280 a new leadership group within that Queensland side. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.839 Well two things does two things? Number one, it sells 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.080 all the Queensland players number to who they are. No 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:27.520 one's safe, so players will go into this game. You 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.240 know how much that jersey means to those players and 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.640 they could go into that game in their own minds 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.080 saying well, if I don't perform this game, this could 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.000 be the last Origin game I play, regardless of who 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.760 it is. That's what he's saying. He's saying to them, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.320 if I'm going to if I if I'm willing to 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.159 drop my captain, then made, I'll drop any of you. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.799 So that what's pressure on everyone? And I know people 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.240 will say, oh yeah, but people like Monster and that, 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.920 but every player has their own voice in their head, 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.679 and Monsters could be saying, well, you know he's Dally 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.840 was captain. He dropped. He's put the onus on me. Now, 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.680 made I better perform for him or else. And that's 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.520 the other reason, right, he's number one. No one's safe. Everybody, mate, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.440 get up on your toes, go out there, perform or else. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.120 The second thing he's doing. And I think this is 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.120 the main reason Coop by not selecting Dally. And you 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.440 said before I didn't think he was the worst player 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.240 in game one, Well, you're right. A lot of the 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.200 selection leaving him out, a lot of has got to 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.840 do with pushing Kalen and months to forward saying hey, boys, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.760 his safety blanket's gone it's up to you two blokes, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.880 and he's doubled down on that by making months to captain. Yeah, 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.080 that's what he's done and died and Cooper did. Will 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.160 He symbolizes the Queensland spirit and he's going to symbolize 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.440 how they're going to play. Right they have pigged did 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.600 and on the back of on the back of his 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.240 energy and on the back of his fight. That's what 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.400 he brings. He brings a ton of fight, He brings 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.440 a ton of energy. He can't be discouraged. He's tenacious 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.520 little bastard. But on the flip side of it, he's 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.400 not a great playmaker. That's not his strength. So what 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.040 does that do? Well, I think what you're going to see. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.720 I think you're gonna see Kaylen play a fair but 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.600 at first receiver they'll RIGI how they're going to play. 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:18.160 But having no Dally is putting the pressure on particularly 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.480 Kaylin and Munster and Harry as well. I mean, your 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.120 dear made Harry. It was you know he was his 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:30.000 performance was unusual by his standards in game one. Well mate, 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.920 you know he can't. He'll come out firing in this. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:37.720 I actually think from Harry's point of view like Monster, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.680 it's quite a stop. I've seen Monster in a state 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:45.120 of origin in game one. I think Harry sometimes he 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.520 actually probably tried too hard. Yeah, yeah, like they kick 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.840 up the short tide. They made a lot of it, 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.240 which led to the seven tackle. Actually, if you watch that, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.520 it was actually a good decision him jumping out and 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.880 knocking up because Xavier was coming through it a rate 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.720 of knots. He just didn't elevate it enough. Idea was 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.760 Idea was okay, idea was good, but just didn't nail 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:04.120 to kick. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.760 And I remember you used to say that back when 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.800 we used to play for the Sunshine Coast Falcons in 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:08.480 Reserve grade. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.280 Harry had a if the game kind of wasn't coming 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.640 to Harry. And Harry's a go getter, right like Harry 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.040 chases anything and forces his way. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:17.520 Into the game. 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.560 Were a lot of spine players can wait for the 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.480 game to come over there, so if it doesn't come 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.600 to him, he can force himself something I remember you 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:24.880 saying back in the day. You remember you have a 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.440 chat to him about how he can overplay. Sometimes he 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.640 tries to do too much because he's fit and he 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.640 has the energy. A lot of the time, he will 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.839 try to come up with big players and force his 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:34.480 way into the game. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.600 I think with Harry's in his mind, he goes, well, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.280 if it's not going to be me, then it's not 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.480 going to be Yeah. He gets into that, which it's 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.160 a good mentality. But sometimes you don't push against the 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.120 flow of the game and when things are happening and moving, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.920 sometimes if you want to push and force things throws 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.440 everything out. Yeah. There's two players that I've seen that 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.600 I've watched a lot of football play that YouTube blokes 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.040 have played with that when they start to overplay earlier, 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.520 I goo. And one is Harry. We just spoke about that, 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.760 and the other one's tom Starling. I to see that 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.240 would Tommy come through the grades when Tommy would just 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.840 try to do too much and you go, tom just relax, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.600 don't force the run, don't force the absolute clever pass 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.199 or the dream pass. Just go with it, mate, when 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:17.720 you get on a roll, get out there and run. 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.520 We'll just give it early and their natural talent will 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:21.000 come to the floor. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.600 We talk about the little little voice inside the head. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.680 Monster Munster has that voice inside of his head. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.680 A bloke that I remember when was it when Tyron 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.440 Wishart was playing playing six last year for him would 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.440 fill in and stuff Money used to always say, oh mate, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:38.160 I'm not going to get. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.960 My spot back like would and would genuinely believe it 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.920 or convince himself that he believed so that he'd keep 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:44.480 him hungry. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.600 That's what makes That's what makes champions. That's one factor 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:48.840 that makes the champion. 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.520 Do you think the captain says a good idea as 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.160 well with mone because they were tossing up a lot 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.280 of people they tossed up Harry. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.680 I think I think it's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.240 I think it's I think it's a I think it's 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:02.800 a fantastic idea. He's just he's nudget him friden him going, mate, 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.640 get the fuck? Can we get your going? You're the bloke, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:06.800 You're the pulse of the side. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.800 Yeah, and people like Slatsy knows how to get the 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.520 best out of Money. Played alongside Munster for a good 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.600 couple of years and I think he's he knows what's 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.560 going to elevate him. And you look at in that side, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.640 you look at who epitomizes it like that Queensland Jersey 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.800 we like the most, the most Aura in that Queensland 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.520 arena is Munster from. He's had some massive series, his 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.120 debut series, that twenty twenty series when he was hungover 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.360 and he just beat everyone. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.600 He's had a Wally type impact on Origin in periods 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.520 of the game. Well mate, he has been when he is. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.280 When he finishes and they talk about Queensland's greatest Oriagin players, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.840 he'll be talking about. He'll be spoken about that. Like 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.000 Kevy Walters the other night on the show, I asked 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.439 him about he was the one who gave Monster his debut. Yeah, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.800 and I said to Kevy is it true? Is the 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.120 legend true? That session all week he was horrific and 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.600 he said Munster was so bad the training all week. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.440 Then he ended up grabbing a couple of the Storm 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.800 players and say, hey, listen, I'm serious here. Do I 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.360 play him? Like? Is he going to be okay? And 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.400 they said, don't worry about it. When the whistle goes, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.360 he'll be fine. He'll find his best And he got 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:20.400 me another match. Yeah. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.920 He used to do that ship all the time to 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.760 Melbourne training. Kick it dead, kick it out in the fall, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.880 like couldn't kick a dog in the guts. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:28.839 Was horrendous and everyone. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.319 Would go, oh God, and then he'd like storm off 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.440 the training padic, throw his boots and like be sucken, 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.959 and everyone would be like spraying him, spraying him, and 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.480 then he come out and just like brain. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.080 Yeah, yeah, he's a natural football, he is. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.600 And also your man baby feet for more. Bo Firma 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:45.400 was dropped as well. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.360 Yeah, which was a little bit of a weird choice 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.640 because I didn't think he probably didn't get a lot 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:52.280 of time out there. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.600 He didn't, He didn't, Bill, he's just seen something. I 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.960 didn't go back and watch his performance closely. But bow 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.880 By his standards was white. Yeah, I think Billy Lookson said, mate, Yeah, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.640 you just didn't give us enough. In a minute, we'll 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.800 talk about In a minute, we'll have a talk about 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.880 what style of game is going to be and how 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.680 Queensland will play. All the Queensland mentality the New South 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.840 Wales going to be prepared for. But the other one, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:17.800 well let's go from New. 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:22.440 So yeah, yeah, obviously Mitch Moses torn calf A training. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.800 Can we talk to firstly about Stefano? Yeah, yeah, this 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.440 will be this will be the making of him as 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:27.840 a player. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:29.760 You reckon, He's played Origin before. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.640 Yeah, this will be He's at this point. I reckon 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.160 he's ready to go. I've been watching him at Melbourne 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.679 and progressively there's just little things he's doing. He's becoming. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.560 He's looking more and more like a Melbourne player. His impact. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.640 He didn't sort to hit Melbourne and going wham like 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.920 a lot of players have. But you can just see 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.959 little things in his game. He's started to get those 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:53.360 good habits and now he's elevated on this stage. I 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.320 think I think he'll go out. I think he'll be 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.360 really strong, and I think this will be what people 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.400 have been waiting for him. 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.240 Yeah, comes onto the bench obviously, Max King goes in 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.839 for Mitch Barnett. The thing because I've seen a lot 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.720 of punters have had their opinion on Stefano being picked, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.880 you know, saying other front rowers doing this, doing that better. 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.320 I think what people don't see sometimes is they'll look 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.880 at a stat sheet and they'll go, well, this player 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.480 played seventy minutes. He run for over two hundred meters. 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.480 The thing about a club like Melbourne you barely see 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.640 a lot of the front rowers run for a heap 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:28.200 of meters. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.480 I remember Jesse Brimis used to say the same things 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.440 like mate, I can't remember the last time, like I've 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.520 run the meters that payin Hassen, anything like that. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.760 Buzz But it's a colective effort. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.320 It's a collect you spread the work out across the road, 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.520 across the whole team. Billy, make sure you only play 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.400 an amount of time where you're effective for every minute 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.960 in that time. You know, if you're you can squeeze 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.520 out seventy minutes, He'll only play your fifty to fifty 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.080 five to make sure that you've put all your energy 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.200 into that fifty. And that's what he's done with Stefano. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.760 Stefana can play bigger minutes, but he's playing him at 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.560 a amount of minutes where all it needs to go 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.800 out is every time you run, you run as hard 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.080 as you can, you get a one on one, you 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.880 get quick play the ball, and then in defense you've 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.880 got to do all the little things really well, which 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.920 is what you see in Stefano's game. For a big man, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.720 he's doing a lot of really small things that other 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.360 front rowers aren't doing really well. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.520 She's would be a good combination. He and Hassefs are 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.840 on the same time, if they if they can gain ascendancy, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.840 if we start to gain ascendency in the ruck on 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.080 those played one, two threes, those two blokes on play four, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.920 play five. I mean, look, if you're going to ask 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.640 about you know, is he ready? And all you know 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.760 was the selection warranted. Who was the first person that 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.000 Laurie Daily would have went up to and asked Craig 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.680 Craig Bellamy if Bellamy and Bella Bellamy is not the 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.560 sort of bloke to say, oh mate, pick him because 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.960 he's Melbourne player. He just said pick him because obviously 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.280 what belly Ache has seen in the last month, game 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.840 mate has seen his improvement and go on mate, he's 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:55.200 ready to go. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:55.560 Well. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.160 I remember I think Madge was the first one to 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.520 give him his origin debut when he was at the Tigers. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.760 And I remember when we're speaking to Madge on the 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.560 podcast last year, Madge said like it was an unbelievable play, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.400 Like he's like, mate, so fit, such a good work ethic. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.880 He was like, when he goes to Melbourne, he's just 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.240 going to get better and better. And all the boys 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.760 down there the first week train and said he would 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.120 for a big man because you know how hard. Fitness 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.160 is right, especially for a big bloke. He said, never 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.440 complain once and was just so good in all the training. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.239 Yeah, which is it's a testament to his attitude. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.760 Just Cooper, when we go back into Queenslany, it just 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:37.080 remind me to talk about just their attack. I'll just 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.640 sit in there then just thinking about certain things come 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.800 to mind. How I think, how I think Billy will 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.320 want particularly months to play. We'll get to. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.720 That, and then Jerome Lewie comes in for anj injured 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.600 Mitch Moses big news. It was a big point that 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.280 they picked Moses over lew In game one, Moses ey 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:56.359 spot played outstanding. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.680 How do you see this pick affecting New South Wales? 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.639 Firstly, people of the numerous people say Mate Burton should 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.680 be picked. Burton is not a six yet at that level, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.560 he's an emergency six where you playing made eighth man 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:12.320 and if you need to you can slip him in there. 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:18.000 But Leui was a no brain. It was straightforward. Lou 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.920 I'm picking a Louie for Men of the Match. I reckon, yes, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.760 if we can, if we can dominate the rock area 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.560 or I think I think he will be Men of 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:32.440 the Match. And the reason is why that at the Tigers, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.600 he's working double time, like he's having to do so much. 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.280 At the Tigers, he's doing the organization and he's trying 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.920 to hold onto his running game. So and that's a 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.440 very hard balance to do. He's learning new aspects of 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:48.080 his game with leadership and direction, and that's very hard 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.400 to you know. And what's happened suffering a little bit 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.040 is his natural game. Now what he's going to do Now, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.840 He's going to walk in alongside Nathan, straight into that 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.000 side mate, the old pair of warm slippers. He just 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.960 goes in. Nathan will take control. He can just play 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.359 his best self made who will go in there. He'll 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.879 just feel liberated. It will be a huge weight. I 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.399 think this. I think this selection is going to be 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.480 great for New South Wales. I think the selection is 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.399 going to be great for Lui, and I think the 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.520 selection is going to be great for the Tigers. I 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.240 can see Louis going there having a blinder and just 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.439 taking that back to the Tigers. But I love it. 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.760 I mean, the combinations are just so important and state 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.359 of origin. You know, the combination you've got Edwards, Leui 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.480