1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our listeners who continue to 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: listen to us. Look, if you're enjoying the podcast, just 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: do us a favorite. Hit that follow button on your 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: podcast app right now. It helps us bring your great 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: new episodes and make sure that you won't miss anything. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Whether you're on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or anywhere else. Just 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: tap follow or subscribe and stay in the loop. Anyway. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Guys, cheers, you just tried just come up to wait. Yeah, 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: you said, can we do it another time? And I said, 10 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: we can't do another And I stayed origins this week. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: I guess, did I winge? Did I? Did I winge? Did? 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I lay there and refuse? I got up. It's just 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: a little bit tired. 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: We got at Mike on for a second because we 15 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: are rolling, so we didn't leave this shit in. But 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: Matthew's attitude this. 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 4: Morning, I'm asking jab until you come in then. Now, 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 4: I don't really care about your attitude so much. I 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: care more about the fact that you're walked in and 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: you're just doom scrolling on TikTok. And that triggered the 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: fuck out of me because I've never seen that before 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: from a man your age. 23 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: I was trying to find that Tom did with that 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: with that bloke. 25 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, here's a chip. You're not going to find it 26 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: by refreshing the home screen the whole time. 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing it. I'll scare him backwards. 28 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: You're fifty three years old, mate. 29 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: But I was. I wasn't watching middle aged women dance. 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: But you're fifty three years. 31 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Old or cute puppies. 32 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Although although the algorithm will give you that constantly. 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did myself when I said the trash TikTok please, 34 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: it's just like middle aged women dancing in their bikinis. 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: She goes, Yeah, your algorithm, that's the algorithm. 36 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: They feed you what you want to see. 37 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but your fifty three mates, I don't care 38 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: how four soon mate, it's it's age is a mindset 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 5: you don't feel. 40 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Let me just inform you of something. It doesn't matter 41 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: if it's sixty. I got a mate who's well singer, 42 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: who is indo late seventies, said to me, you know what, 43 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: you never feel any older than twenty five. And I 44 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: agree with that. 45 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: I believe that. 46 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: I believe once you hit twenty five you stay, even 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: though when you look in the mirror you go, who's 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: that old blow. You're still the exact same internally. Yeah, 49 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: I believe. 50 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how we got down this track, but 51 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say to you is age is relevant, 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that I'm a little bit shitty this 53 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: morning has got nothing to do with me not want 54 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: to do this. It's very fact that every single day 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: I've done a podcast this week on top of my 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: work schedule. 57 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: I guess what, who's up for breakfast rating? 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: All I want to say is we've got our loyal listeners, 59 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: our beautiful listener. 60 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: They are an engaging community. We are like a cult. 61 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: We're like a cult cultivating the sporting fans as New Zealand. 62 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Totally right, let's do it. 63 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: No, you don't want it. You don't like to be told. 64 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: No, I don't actually because I get enough off your 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: mom upstairs. 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Hey, guess what your head's right and he goes your 67 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: body can't cash. 68 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: You'd be surprised, big check. 69 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: All right, state of origin preview again, Get on with it. Yeah, 70 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: we're doing it made. I'm not trying it. Jesus, you're 71 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: such a shit. Mood changes. The first thing we want 72 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: to talk about. Let's start with Queensland. 73 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Obviously the biggest one is chairs Dallly Cherry Evans captain 74 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: of queens and he's out for Game two. 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: He's been not selected. What was your take on it? 76 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Slightly slightly surprised, not entirely because of the fact that 77 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: the tom Toms were beating Surprised in the fact that 78 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: Queensland would sack a captain mid series. That does surprise me. 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: But I do understand why Billy's done it, and there's 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: two reasons before I get to that though. The one 81 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: thing that I it's probably a little bit disappointing I 82 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: reckon from Dai's point of view, because I think in 83 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: DAI in a lot of times would sort of understand. 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: But the very fact that it was leaked out early, 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean early. 86 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: It's almost after the games. 87 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: It's not Billy's style. I get that, but someone within 88 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the inner sanctum has told journalists, oh, mate, he's not 89 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: going to be their game too, you know what I mean? 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: And given what Dally has done for that state and 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: for that Jersey, I thought that the announcement could have 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: been handled a lot better rather than just sort of 93 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: being leaked out. And because that's what happens. Sometimes they'll 94 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: leak things out to lessen the blow, you know what 95 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean. When he wasn't name, people go, well, yeah 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that was right. If he was just out of the 97 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: blue announced aside and he's not there. 98 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: Where does that come from? Like people will say there's 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: a leak. 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Is that come from within the coaching staff somewhere or 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: just within Queensland? 102 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, people, there's no doubt the abillity 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: would confide in numerous people and every you know. And 104 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: what happens a lot of times is you know, people 105 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: have close relationship with journals, you know, and a journalist 106 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: might go to him, you know, what are you thinking? 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: And what are you thinking in there? And it might 108 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: be the old listen mate, I think, yeah, I think 109 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: he's going to leave Deli out. You know, that's just that, 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not meaning to be vindictive, vindictive 111 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: or anything that. It's just the way the game works. 112 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: But for Deli it'd be it would have been disappointing 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: here and all those reports come out which turned out 114 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: come to fruition. 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: I look at the decision and at the start, I 116 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: I was probably I looked at it and I went. 117 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: That's a big call because he in my opinion, in 118 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 2: game one, he wasn't in terms of their Spine players. 119 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: He was probably their best player anyway in the Spine. 120 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: You know the rest of the boys didn't play that well. 121 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: But you know, obviously he's gone about the season. I 122 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: think what I look at it right, And I did 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: think about this before, and I think it does similar 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: to like that queens mom from about five six years 125 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: ago when they kind of acxed a lot of those 126 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: older players coming out. 127 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: He really surprised me beally a few years ago when 128 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: he didn't pick gags and what's he doing? But he 129 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: brought hammer into the side, And. 130 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: I think what the message that it sends to the 131 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: whole playing group. But like the Spine player, the youngest 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: Spine players like Harry Munster Kaylin did and it's it's 133 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: got to elevate them, right like it's got to elevate 134 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: a new leadership group within that Queensland side. 135 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: Well two things does two things? Number one, it sells 136 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: all the Queensland players number to who they are. No 137 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: one's safe, so players will go into this game. You 138 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: know how much that jersey means to those players and 139 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: they could go into that game in their own minds 140 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: saying well, if I don't perform this game, this could 141 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: be the last Origin game I play, regardless of who 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it is. That's what he's saying. He's saying to them, 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: if I'm going to if I if I'm willing to 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: drop my captain, then made, I'll drop any of you. 145 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: So that what's pressure on everyone? And I know people 146 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: will say, oh yeah, but people like Monster and that, 147 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: but every player has their own voice in their head, 148 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: and Monsters could be saying, well, you know he's Dally 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: was captain. He dropped. He's put the onus on me. Now, 150 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: made I better perform for him or else. And that's 151 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the other reason, right, he's number one. No one's safe. Everybody, mate, 152 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: get up on your toes, go out there, perform or else. 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: The second thing he's doing. And I think this is 154 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the main reason Coop by not selecting Dally. And you 155 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: said before I didn't think he was the worst player 156 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: in game one, Well, you're right. A lot of the 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: selection leaving him out, a lot of has got to 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: do with pushing Kalen and months to forward saying hey, boys, 159 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: his safety blanket's gone it's up to you two blokes, 160 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: and he's doubled down on that by making months to captain. Yeah, 161 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: that's what he's done and died and Cooper did. Will 162 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: He symbolizes the Queensland spirit and he's going to symbolize 163 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: how they're going to play. Right they have pigged did 164 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: and on the back of on the back of his 165 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: energy and on the back of his fight. That's what 166 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: he brings. He brings a ton of fight, He brings 167 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: a ton of energy. He can't be discouraged. He's tenacious 168 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: little bastard. But on the flip side of it, he's 169 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: not a great playmaker. That's not his strength. So what 170 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: does that do? Well, I think what you're going to see. 171 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see Kaylen play a fair but 172 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: at first receiver they'll RIGI how they're going to play. 173 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: But having no Dally is putting the pressure on particularly 174 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Kaylin and Munster and Harry as well. I mean, your 175 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: dear made Harry. It was you know he was his 176 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: performance was unusual by his standards in game one. Well mate, 177 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you know he can't. He'll come out firing in this. 178 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I actually think from Harry's point of view like Monster, 179 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: it's quite a stop. I've seen Monster in a state 180 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: of origin in game one. I think Harry sometimes he 181 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: actually probably tried too hard. Yeah, yeah, like they kick 182 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: up the short tide. They made a lot of it, 183 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: which led to the seven tackle. Actually, if you watch that, 184 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: it was actually a good decision him jumping out and 185 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: knocking up because Xavier was coming through it a rate 186 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: of knots. He just didn't elevate it enough. Idea was 187 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Idea was okay, idea was good, but just didn't nail 188 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: to kick. 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: And I remember you used to say that back when 190 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: we used to play for the Sunshine Coast Falcons in 191 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Reserve grade. 192 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Harry had a if the game kind of wasn't coming 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: to Harry. And Harry's a go getter, right like Harry 194 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: chases anything and forces his way. 195 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: Into the game. 196 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: Were a lot of spine players can wait for the 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: game to come over there, so if it doesn't come 198 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: to him, he can force himself something I remember you 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: saying back in the day. You remember you have a 200 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: chat to him about how he can overplay. Sometimes he 201 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: tries to do too much because he's fit and he 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: has the energy. A lot of the time, he will 203 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: try to come up with big players and force his 204 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: way into the game. 205 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: I think with Harry's in his mind, he goes, well, 206 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: if it's not going to be me, then it's not 207 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: going to be Yeah. He gets into that, which it's 208 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: a good mentality. But sometimes you don't push against the 209 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: flow of the game and when things are happening and moving, 210 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: sometimes if you want to push and force things throws 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: everything out. Yeah. There's two players that I've seen that 212 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of football play that YouTube blokes 213 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: have played with that when they start to overplay earlier, 214 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I goo. And one is Harry. We just spoke about that, 215 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: and the other one's tom Starling. I to see that 216 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: would Tommy come through the grades when Tommy would just 217 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: try to do too much and you go, tom just relax, 218 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: don't force the run, don't force the absolute clever pass 219 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: or the dream pass. Just go with it, mate, when 220 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: you get on a roll, get out there and run. 221 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: We'll just give it early and their natural talent will 222 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: come to the floor. 223 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: We talk about the little little voice inside the head. 224 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: Monster Munster has that voice inside of his head. 225 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: A bloke that I remember when was it when Tyron 226 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: Wishart was playing playing six last year for him would 227 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: fill in and stuff Money used to always say, oh mate, 228 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get. 229 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: My spot back like would and would genuinely believe it 230 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: or convince himself that he believed so that he'd keep 231 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: him hungry. 232 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: That's what makes That's what makes champions. That's one factor 233 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: that makes the champion. 234 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Do you think the captain says a good idea as 235 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: well with mone because they were tossing up a lot 236 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: of people they tossed up Harry. 237 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: I think I think it's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, 238 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a I think it's 239 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: a fantastic idea. He's just he's nudget him friden him going, mate, 240 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: get the fuck? Can we get your going? You're the bloke, 241 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: You're the pulse of the side. 242 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people like Slatsy knows how to get the 243 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: best out of Money. Played alongside Munster for a good 244 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: couple of years and I think he's he knows what's 245 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: going to elevate him. And you look at in that side, 246 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: you look at who epitomizes it like that Queensland Jersey 247 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: we like the most, the most Aura in that Queensland 248 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: arena is Munster from. He's had some massive series, his 249 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: debut series, that twenty twenty series when he was hungover 250 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: and he just beat everyone. 251 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: He's had a Wally type impact on Origin in periods 252 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: of the game. Well mate, he has been when he is. 253 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: When he finishes and they talk about Queensland's greatest Oriagin players, 254 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: he'll be talking about. He'll be spoken about that. Like 255 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Kevy Walters the other night on the show, I asked 256 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: him about he was the one who gave Monster his debut. Yeah, 257 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: and I said to Kevy is it true? Is the 258 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: legend true? That session all week he was horrific and 259 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: he said Munster was so bad the training all week. 260 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Then he ended up grabbing a couple of the Storm 261 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: players and say, hey, listen, I'm serious here. Do I 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: play him? Like? Is he going to be okay? And 263 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: they said, don't worry about it. When the whistle goes, 264 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: he'll be fine. He'll find his best And he got 265 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: me another match. Yeah. 266 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: He used to do that ship all the time to 267 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: Melbourne training. Kick it dead, kick it out in the fall, 268 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: like couldn't kick a dog in the guts. 269 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: Was horrendous and everyone. 270 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: Would go, oh God, and then he'd like storm off 271 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: the training padic, throw his boots and like be sucken, 272 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 2: and everyone would be like spraying him, spraying him, and 273 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: then he come out and just like brain. 274 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's a natural football, he is. 275 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: And also your man baby feet for more. Bo Firma 276 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: was dropped as well. 277 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, which was a little bit of a weird choice 278 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: because I didn't think he probably didn't get a lot 279 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: of time out there. 280 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: He didn't, He didn't, Bill, he's just seen something. I 281 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't go back and watch his performance closely. But bow 282 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: By his standards was white. Yeah, I think Billy Lookson said, mate, Yeah, 283 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: you just didn't give us enough. In a minute, we'll 284 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: talk about In a minute, we'll have a talk about 285 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: what style of game is going to be and how 286 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: Queensland will play. All the Queensland mentality the New South 287 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Wales going to be prepared for. But the other one, 288 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: well let's go from New. 289 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, obviously Mitch Moses torn calf A training. 290 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Can we talk to firstly about Stefano? Yeah, yeah, this 291 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: will be this will be the making of him as 292 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: a player. 293 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: You reckon, He's played Origin before. 294 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be He's at this point. I reckon 295 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. I've been watching him at Melbourne 296 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and progressively there's just little things he's doing. He's becoming. 297 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: He's looking more and more like a Melbourne player. His impact. 298 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: He didn't sort to hit Melbourne and going wham like 299 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of players have. But you can just see 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: little things in his game. He's started to get those 301 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: good habits and now he's elevated on this stage. I 302 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: think I think he'll go out. I think he'll be 303 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: really strong, and I think this will be what people 304 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: have been waiting for him. 305 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, comes onto the bench obviously, Max King goes in 306 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 2: for Mitch Barnett. The thing because I've seen a lot 307 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: of punters have had their opinion on Stefano being picked, 308 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: you know, saying other front rowers doing this, doing that better. 309 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: I think what people don't see sometimes is they'll look 310 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: at a stat sheet and they'll go, well, this player 311 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: played seventy minutes. He run for over two hundred meters. 312 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: The thing about a club like Melbourne you barely see 313 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: a lot of the front rowers run for a heap 314 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: of meters. 315 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: I remember Jesse Brimis used to say the same things 316 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: like mate, I can't remember the last time, like I've 317 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: run the meters that payin Hassen, anything like that. 318 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Buzz But it's a colective effort. 319 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: It's a collect you spread the work out across the road, 320 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: across the whole team. Billy, make sure you only play 321 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: an amount of time where you're effective for every minute 322 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: in that time. You know, if you're you can squeeze 323 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: out seventy minutes, He'll only play your fifty to fifty 324 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: five to make sure that you've put all your energy 325 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: into that fifty. And that's what he's done with Stefano. 326 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: Stefana can play bigger minutes, but he's playing him at 327 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: a amount of minutes where all it needs to go 328 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: out is every time you run, you run as hard 329 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: as you can, you get a one on one, you 330 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: get quick play the ball, and then in defense you've 331 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: got to do all the little things really well, which 332 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: is what you see in Stefano's game. For a big man, 333 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: he's doing a lot of really small things that other 334 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: front rowers aren't doing really well. 335 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: She's would be a good combination. He and Hassefs are 336 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: on the same time, if they if they can gain ascendancy, 337 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: if we start to gain ascendency in the ruck on 338 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: those played one, two threes, those two blokes on play four, 339 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: play five. I mean, look, if you're going to ask 340 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: about you know, is he ready? And all you know 341 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: was the selection warranted. Who was the first person that 342 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Laurie Daily would have went up to and asked Craig 343 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Craig Bellamy if Bellamy and Bella Bellamy is not the 344 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: sort of bloke to say, oh mate, pick him because 345 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: he's Melbourne player. He just said pick him because obviously 346 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: what belly Ache has seen in the last month, game 347 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: mate has seen his improvement and go on mate, he's 348 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: ready to go. 349 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: Well. 350 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: I remember I think Madge was the first one to 351 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: give him his origin debut when he was at the Tigers. 352 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: And I remember when we're speaking to Madge on the 353 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: podcast last year, Madge said like it was an unbelievable play, 354 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: Like he's like, mate, so fit, such a good work ethic. 355 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: He was like, when he goes to Melbourne, he's just 356 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: going to get better and better. And all the boys 357 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: down there the first week train and said he would 358 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: for a big man because you know how hard. Fitness 359 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: is right, especially for a big bloke. He said, never 360 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: complain once and was just so good in all the training. 361 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is it's a testament to his attitude. 362 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Just Cooper, when we go back into Queenslany, it just 363 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: remind me to talk about just their attack. I'll just 364 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: sit in there then just thinking about certain things come 365 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: to mind. How I think, how I think Billy will 366 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: want particularly months to play. We'll get to. 367 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: That, and then Jerome Lewie comes in for anj injured 368 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: Mitch Moses big news. It was a big point that 369 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: they picked Moses over lew In game one, Moses ey 370 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,359 Speaker 2: spot played outstanding. 371 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: How do you see this pick affecting New South Wales? 372 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: Firstly, people of the numerous people say Mate Burton should 373 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: be picked. Burton is not a six yet at that level, 374 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: he's an emergency six where you playing made eighth man 375 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: and if you need to you can slip him in there. 376 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: But Leui was a no brain. It was straightforward. Lou 377 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm picking a Louie for Men of the Match. I reckon, yes, 378 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: if we can, if we can dominate the rock area 379 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: or I think I think he will be Men of 380 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: the Match. And the reason is why that at the Tigers, 381 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: he's working double time, like he's having to do so much. 382 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: At the Tigers, he's doing the organization and he's trying 383 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: to hold onto his running game. So and that's a 384 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: very hard balance to do. He's learning new aspects of 385 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: his game with leadership and direction, and that's very hard 386 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: to you know. And what's happened suffering a little bit 387 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: is his natural game. Now what he's going to do Now, 388 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: He's going to walk in alongside Nathan, straight into that 389 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: side mate, the old pair of warm slippers. He just 390 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: goes in. Nathan will take control. He can just play 391 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: his best self made who will go in there. He'll 392 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: just feel liberated. It will be a huge weight. I 393 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: think this. I think this selection is going to be 394 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: great for New South Wales. I think the selection is 395 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: going to be great for Lui, and I think the 396 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: selection is going to be great for the Tigers. I 397 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: can see Louis going there having a blinder and just 398 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: taking that back to the Tigers. But I love it. 399 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the combinations are just so important and state 400 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: of origin. You know, the combination you've got Edwards, Leui 401 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: Cleary and Yoe and you've got Liam Martin there as well. 402 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Those combinations straight away just former and they've played so much. 403 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: You've got to remind the four competitions have won together. 404 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: Five Grand Finals have been in the combination works. I 405 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: thought Yo in game one was magnificent. I thought he 406 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: was really good. Yo has taken him a little time 407 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: to realize it. But at State of Origin level his 408 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: game is less pass, more run, but he still sets 409 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: up that shape which makes the defense flex out and 410 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: gets him one on one. He just punches through all 411 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the time. And Liam Martin, Liam Martin coop is symbolic 412 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: of the New Blues attitude and you go, what what's 413 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: the attitude? Well, the natural characters coming into this fight 414 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: are Coeensland the underdog, you know, just battling away, you know, 415 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the little engine in the can and New South Wales 416 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: like the Imperial bad guys. Yeah, that's what it is. 417 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: Now what what Liam Martin does? Liam Martin plays like 418 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: an underdog. If you watch him and Angus Crichton, how 419 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: hard they go at Queensland and Liam Martin just yeah, 420 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: he he. The theme that Queensland are great at is 421 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: that underdog mentality, that fight mentality. Well, he plays, he 422 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: takes them on. As far as that attitude. 423 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, teams have identities and that's always been their identity, 424 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 2: the underdogs who no one give him a chance to 425 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: go and kill them. And then we've always had that villain, 426 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: even when they were winning like six in a row 427 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: a bit, We've always had like the Gals and the 428 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: Greek Birds, who they look at him and they go 429 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: the villains, you know. Yeah, queens and don't have a 430 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: chance even though they had like the best players in 431 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: the world. 432 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: But Liam Martin is he gives. 433 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: Me like the modern day Greg Bird vibes, you know 434 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: what I mean, he's got the same thing. 435 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: He's got that mungrel and he goes after half backs. 436 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in different areas, in different eras where New 437 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: South Wales dominated, we've had, you know, sitting at the 438 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: very core of the team have been a club combination 439 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: and sort of players I reckon and I'm only guessed 440 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: that he may have got this wrong, but that Queenslanders 441 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: respect and don't hate. It's not like they come from 442 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: a club like the Roosters who carry that or manly 443 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: to carry that sort of attitude. Yeah, and that swagger 444 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: you've got Canberra in the nineties where you had that 445 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: core of the camera side which was Bradley Clyde, Glenn, Lazarus, 446 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: Ricky and then you go into Joey's era. You've got 447 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: Joey and Bedzi and you know Van Kennedy operating and 448 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, to speak to guys like Gordon. Like Queensland, 449 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: people don't look at New South Wales people and go 450 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: oh look at those elders. You know what I mean, 451 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: they understand like they're hard working class people. They've got 452 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: the same attitude. It's the same with people from Penrith 453 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: like people. I don't think people in Queensland or Ipswich 454 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: look down at Penrith and go look at those flash 455 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Harry Bass. 456 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: They look at the inner city clubs and they can 457 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 3: scoff at them. 458 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: But like you said, like Newcastle, Canberra and those in 459 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: a West sides like Penrith. 460 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: And Bulldogs, they're hard, hard work knockouts. 461 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, knock about blue collar towns and Penrith is at mate. 462 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: You got tough people like they're going to look at 463 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, someone from Ipswich going to point to you know, 464 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: Critter and Leui who are from Mount Druett and go 465 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: oh those flash Harry is we've flipped the script a 466 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of times, like they bought those young blokes like 467 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: to they come out of those tough areas in the 468 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: western suburbs, like you know, they're they're going after the Queenslanders. 469 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: It's just a different you know, people might scoff at that, 470 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: but it's just a completely different narrative and a narrative 471 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't suit these Coinsland players. 472 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's hard for them to draw motivation in there. 473 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: And I can't imagine Bill would be able to in 474 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: years going past. 475 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: Wayne Bennet could go. 476 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: Up and on the white board and go look at 477 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: this bloke and really fuel the fire and get him 478 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: angry for things that they've said in media and whatnot. 479 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: Going you know this blog he's lives in cities, eastern suburbs. 480 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: He's talking about you guys have grown up hard, you 481 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 2: know in rock Hampton. 482 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: They can't go he can't have a. 483 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: Picture up there, broan and go this bloger grew up 484 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: on the foot of the mountains. Mate who drinks six 485 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: coke zeros on game day. 486 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: That's Stephen Crichton. Mate. He'd be sitting now, it may 487 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: eating his cavia think that's better than you guys, you know, 488 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's as we have a great side we have, 489 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: right if we talk about a Queensland and to play, 490 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: we have got we got we've got a great side. 491 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: But what we have to be ready for is coins Lands, 492 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the Queensland frenzy that's going to come. They we have 493 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: to match them as far as desperation, which is hard 494 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: to do Coop because they're fighting to keep the series alive. 495 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: We're one nil. We've got a bit of that. And 496 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: this is the reason why Coop there's so many rare 497 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: three nils is because if you just drop a little 498 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: bit in desperation, then that means you drop a little 499 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: bit in intensity and that's just enough for the other 500 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: side to come out at the top of it. Like 501 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: even those great Queensland sides you know that dominated. I 502 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know how many they didn't sweeps they were. 503 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: They didn't have a heap. 504 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: Of clean sweet I think it might have been just one. 505 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe there was. 506 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: Only one potentially two out of what eight, yeah in 507 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: a row there. So yeah, and you look at the 508 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: side that they had Greg English, Billy Slater, Cooper Kronk, 509 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: Camera Smith Jonathan Thurston lockey. 510 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: Even those great great players you know, gi all those 511 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: blokes who you know have an argument to be have 512 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: be immortals into the future and a number of them will. 513 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Is that even when they drop coop just a little 514 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: bit in desperation, the New South Wales side beat them. 515 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: And some of them weren't strong New South Wales sides, 516 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: but they were able to knock them over and beat 517 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: them purely on intensity. And this which comes to my 518 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: point is Queensland. I think this will be one of 519 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: the great State of Origin games. There's been a lot 520 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: of criticism with gay one. I get it to a 521 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: certain extent. I think someone's been a bit over the top. 522 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: I've heard some people say, oh, as far as State 523 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: of Origins is a bit of a soft game, will 524 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: come on. But I do get that it didn't have 525 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: that same intensity. They will come out, Queensland will come 526 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: out in a frenzy. New South Wales has got to 527 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: be prepared for that. And a lot of times Queensland 528 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: is the Queensland style of ambush. They get us people go, yeah, 529 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: well the ambushs and they go, well, they didn't ambush 530 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: it because you knew what was coming. Ah, No, no, no, 531 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: we knew what was coming. We just underestimate, underestimated the 532 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: intensity of it. Right as much as we're saying, mate, 533 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: they're going to come out in a frenzy, right, you 534 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: know it's going to be probably ten to fifteen percent 535 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: more than we're anticipate. 536 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: And you look Game one, that first fifteen minutes, I 537 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: think there was the penalty count was a lot, there 538 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: was a couple hours. You rarely see a state of 539 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: origin that first ten minutes where there's broken play, where 540 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: there was about three or four passages where the play stopped. 541 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: I think this game too, you'll see, like you said, 542 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of talk around the penalty count, 543 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: the referees, there's been a lot of talk about the 544 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: quality of the game, people slamming it. I think the 545 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes, particularly from Queensland. 546 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: Will be pull out of a gate. It'll be one 547 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: to be reckoned with. 548 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Let's talk about why and how they're going to play well, Cooper. 549 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: There's been two games played in Perth, and why Perth 550 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: is a really big factor. It's going to be a 551 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: six o'clock game. In Perth. It's always a dry fast track, 552 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: which means we can move the pool around the park. 553 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: It suits the way we want to play. So giving 554 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: evidence to that New South Wales are two game games 555 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: thirty eight to six forty four to twelve. Now that 556 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: sort of scoreline tough in Perth, almost unheard of in 557 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: state of origin, which mean Queensland coops if you look 558 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: at the nature of our side. If Queensland go out 559 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: there to make this an attacking shootout though even though 560 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: they got Harry and Munster and Grant, we will put 561 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: will bid them by thirty points. What Queensland want to 562 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: do mate, They want this to be a tough center 563 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: field battle. That's what they want. So this is the thing. 564 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: The bloke is going to have the most pressure on 565 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: him in this game is the referee. And I have 566 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: got no doubt that he's been given a directive and 567 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: they won't admit to it. I reckon he's been given 568 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: a directive from the top because this is a really 569 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: important game. This is a really important match for the 570 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: game planning in Perth. We've got the Perth Bears coming in, 571 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: so we want this to be as good as rugby 572 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: league can be. And so I reckon the referee has 573 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: been given a bit of a directive, he'll say less penalties, 574 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: let the game flow more. And I think he'll say it. 575 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: They'll they allow a little bit more, you know, a 576 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: little bit of the foul play. You just don't be 577 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: too keen to blow the whistle. Now that suits Queensland. 578 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Because Queensland make that. They will multiply the pressure on 579 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: the referee. They'll lie in the ruck, they'll stand half 580 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: a meter off side, they'll ruff, they'll they'll rush our playmakers, 581 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: they'll hit our playmakers. I'll throw our playmakers on the ground. 582 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: And that they will just exert pressure on the referee. 583 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: They will try to dictate the terms of this fight. 584 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: And that's how they'll do it. They'll try to make 585 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: it a really tough, gritty game. They'll just try to 586 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: shut us down and they'll exert all the pressure on 587 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: the ref. 588 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know better than anyone, right. You used 589 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: to say it to us in junior footy. You and 590 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 2: you go on into a grand Vinyl, you'd say, feel 591 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: free to layers test the referees, lay all over them 592 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 2: because in big games, when everybody's watching, the referees don't 593 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: want to be blamed for a shit game. 594 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: Well, what we used to say that when caaching you blokes, 595 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: you know you're not to teaching you know, arms to 596 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: what it was. I'd say to you, bloke, right when 597 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: you make a tackle like you're buzzy and you're enjoying yourself, 598 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: but just have the discipline to count in your head 599 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: one two three and then get off. And it just 600 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: makes all the world difference. And when we go into 601 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: those Grand Finals at the start of the game, will say, 602 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: let's just dip our toe into the water with the referee, 603 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: lay on one two three, four and then get off 604 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: if he starts blowing penalties one two three. That is 605 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: such a vital part of the game. 606 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we used to get referees come down to 607 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 3: training a lot of the time and chatting to refs 608 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: a lot of the time. 609 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: They're not counting how long to play the ball is. 610 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: They're measuring the play the ball off the first five minutes. 611 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: They'll they'll get a feel for the play the ball, 612 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: and then they'll see how consistent they're laying on. If 613 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: you that first five minutes, first ten minutes, you're getting 614 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: off really quick, and then when fatigue starts to set in, 615 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: you're laying trying to slow it down. Then they kind 616 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: of subconsciously they notice that because they're trained to know 617 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: just inconsistencies. That's where they'll blow the penalty. If you 618 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: set the standard from the start, and if you're Queensland, 619 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: you know you're half a meter off side, you're laying 620 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: on the play of the ball, slowing it down. 621 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 3: That becomes the standard for the whole game. 622 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, coop, what's gonna happen in the referees. He's been 623 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: told blow less referees, so every time he blows. Every 624 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: time he blows a penalty, just so blow rep. 625 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: You said he's been told to blow less referees. 626 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Clip that, I reckon. 627 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: He would have been told that as well. I imagine 628 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: they'd be rules in the referee for a game. 629 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Keep us are doing anything for a win. 630 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: It's like the jockey club, mate, don't shoot where you eat. 631 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: Come on, refs, it's a kissing each. 632 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Other, oh mate. Every time the referee blows a penalty, coup, 633 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: he'll be in his own mind and be going, oh God, 634 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: because he's been told blow less. Yeah every time. So 635 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: quite what Queensland will do, and New South Wales to 636 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: an extent, they'll just keep testing him and you want 637 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to keep blowing penalties. Yep, we're gonna lay. It's going 638 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: to be it's a game of cat and mouse. 639 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think us as New so well as well. 640 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: Given that they're already up by one, they're at a 641 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: little bit of a disadvantage because if they try to 642 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: the more that they push, the more they'll be panealized. 643 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Yep, you know you know what. 644 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when you're down twenty zerol in a 645 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: game and you kind of get more of the rubb 646 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: of the green because they try to not bring you 647 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: back into it, but they give you a little bit 648 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: of the benefit of the doubt. 649 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: It'll be like that for queens And although it's been 650 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: played in Perth, the crowd will put exert pressure on 651 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: the referee because last every time it's played over there, 652 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: and the supports probably being seventy thirty Queensland's way. Everybody 653 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: everybody hates you South last, everybody. Okay, let's talk, right, 654 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: If Queensland are going to play that way and they're 655 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: going to come out like a frenzy, let's have a 656 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: little talk about how New South Wales should play. Our 657 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: strength is our yardage, game right, it's it's Zachlomax, Brian too, 658 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Dylan Edwards on play one, two three, that's what really 659 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: set that set us going. Then all of a sudden 660 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: you got paying House on play four or five. Then 661 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: we're out of there. And we just that dominance in yardage, 662 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: just kept getting Nathan clear in attacking kick positions and 663 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: which allowed us to exert pressure and just build pressure 664 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: on them. But this game we just established right our 665 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Coreensland come out there, they're going to try to spoil. 666 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: So how do you spoil in yardage? How you spoiler 667 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: is you tighten your defense. You can press your defense, 668 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: show New South Wales the edges and you rush and 669 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: you lay on the ruck. That's what you do. That's 670 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: how they're going to squash our yardage game early in 671 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: the match New South Wales. In my opinion, if I 672 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 1: coached in New South Wales, I'd start the match by 673 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: playing a little bit of sideline. The sideline really yep, 674 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: I'd push, I'd push the ball away. I wouldn't give 675 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Coueensland what they're after. They want physicality and confrontation. Don't 676 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: give it to him early. As soon as we start 677 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: to get just a little bit of momentum, push the 678 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: ball to the trail or crutter on the other side. Right, 679 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: And what that does it moves around the Queensland forwards, 680 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: makes them travel around the park, which starts to fatigue them. 681 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: But the other thing it does gives us one on 682 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: one tackles. Right, they're going to try to get lots 683 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: of players in the tackle the really slower rate. So 684 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: move the ball around, shift it around, get one on 685 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: one tackles, get your momentum. That way almost you can 686 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: move the ball to an edge with critter. He also 687 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: makes twenty meters then start to build. You go forward 688 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: off that as the game starts to go on, and 689 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: as the game starts to evolve and the game starts 690 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: to move into the thirty minute mark, if you start 691 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: to move their opposition middles around Coop, you'll see them 692 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: start to hit the wall a little bit. And that's 693 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: when you go revert, bring it back and start playing 694 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: through their center. 695 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: They're going to want to be if they do play 696 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: that way. And I like your reasoning because you know 697 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: what Queen's are going to do. They're going to bunch 698 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: right up. They're going to be flying out from outside 699 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: in just trying to put shots on, trying to not 700 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: be bullied like they did in Game one where Lomax 701 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: and Painhas are running over the top of everyone. Do 702 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: you think us then changing flipping sort of away from 703 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: our strengths rather than just going straight down the middle 704 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: trying to shift. Do you think it also opens the. 705 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: Risk up for a lot. 706 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: Of early errors. Yep. 707 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: You know they're going to want to be really diligent 708 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: with how they shift the football executing their passes, because 709 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: it could really Queenslane could almost you know, take that 710 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: gamble and encourage us to make areas. 711 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: Of course, but I come back to my point. This 712 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: is why Perth suits New South Wales is because you 713 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: go back and watch the games our in Perth, the 714 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: ability to move the ball from one edge to the other. 715 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: It's just you can do it so easily and move 716 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: it around and that's what suits us. You know, Coop's 717 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: ball movement, it's not really ball movement that's risky, it's 718 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: it's what players do with it. If that makes sense. Yeah, 719 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to go one, two, three passes to 720 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: someone who then gets half through and throws a frivolous pass. 721 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: What you do is you just get you do control 722 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: ball movement one two three, Shift the ball to an 723 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: edge and let the center just make the meters. You know, 724 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: if they're going to tighten their defense, coop always with 725 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: the defense, a defense is going to compress and dare 726 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: you to push the ball to the edge. 727 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: Do it? 728 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Take it? And they want to keep compressing up, keep 729 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: taking it because when a defense titans new move the 730 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: ball to an edge, they need to surrender meters. That's 731 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: what it's such easy meter So move the ball to 732 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: the edge, take the meters, then to owe and that 733 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: can start to go forward. But you'll start to see 734 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: coop after a certain period of time. As has said before, 735 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: moving the ball around just naturally disrupts the defense and 736 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: prize that middle open, and that's when it starts soon 737 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: play through. In fact, if you watch Joey, you know 738 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: Joey's best ever Origin game. 739 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 3: Two thousand and five, yep Game two yep. 740 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: Watch New South Wales. In the first fifty minutes of 741 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: that game, they're actually playing with a lot of width. 742 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: Bang bang. The last thirty minutes Joey reverts and just 743 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: starts playing through their middle. But that that middle was 744 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: vulnerable from what they did in the first fifty minutes. 745 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, right, and our predictions to round. 746 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: Off, I'm going to go to New South Wales thirty 747 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: four to fourteen. 748 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: To give it to him. 749 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: I think that we will I think will. I reckon 750 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: Coensland will put so much into themselves early. I reckon 751 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: we will score a lot of points late. Yeah, okay, yeah, 752 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I try to. I think. I think Coop, 753 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: if we get away, you know, with about twenty minutes 754 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: to go and we're ahead by like a ten points, 755 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: I think then we'll really skip and get away from it. 756 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 3: You have first try score as well. 757 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to go first tryscorer. I go. I'm going 758 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: to go Stephen Crichton. I'll go for a kick, attacking 759 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: kick across from Nathan Cleary, Zach Lomac's bat's back to 760 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: Critter who scores? Okay, very specific, yep, I love it, Jack. 761 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 3: What about you? 762 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: Have you got any I've got New South Wales by twelve, 763 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 4: and I think that first tri score is going to 764 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: be Jerome Lui. 765 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're on Lui mate. 766 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: And then man of the match I think is going 767 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 4: to be Lui. Oh Jerome went in Rome. 768 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go a little different, all right, 769 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 3: I'm in you South Welsh. I want us to win. 770 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: I think Queensland are actually going to win. I think 771 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: Queensland by two. I've got man of the match monster 772 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: and I've got first try scorer. I've got I think 773 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: Xavier Coach will shore the first. Yeah, I think. I 774 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 2: just I've been tossing it, turning whether who to pick. 775 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: I think you got I think we'll win the series. 776 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: But I just think it's hard to win three. It's 777 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: hard to go yep, it is, and I think I 778 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: think they're going to get us. 779 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: This is what I expect from Munster. I think you're 780 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: a Munster running more than he passes. I hope. So yeah, 781 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see You know that you 782 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: said the COVID series, you know where he basically played 783 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: that first game hungover. I think it was that that 784 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: first game he was trying to push the ball sideways. 785 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Apparently what he will come into the sheds or Wayne 786 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: turned around to Munster and just said run the fucking 787 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: football and he went out there and got man of 788 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: the match. That's I think I think you're going to 789 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: see Corinsland pour enormous energy into their defense and their physicality, 790 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: and I think when the win the football, they're going 791 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: to play pretty simple. Think they're going to I think 792 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: they're looking for they'll work Graft really hard and they'll 793 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: look for little moments of magic from Kalen and moments 794 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: of magic from Munster all right. Man of the match 795 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: Joan Luway. Boom, we bring the boom. 796 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: Give us one, give us a boom has it? 797 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: We bring the boom. God, I love those guys. Boom, boom, 798 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: boom