WEBVTT - Off The Record #2: Inside the Michael Clarke v Simon Katich Blow-Up, Where’s DCE Going? & Tim Tszyu’s must-win fight

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, and welcome to Off the Record, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>of breaking news, heard, opinion and a little bit of Gibba.

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<v Speaker 1>Got my copole with here again Phil buzz Rossi'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a buzz hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be great to be back. Episode two and mate,

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<v Speaker 2>we're flying about the first up reaction on the.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, well look what we wanted to thank everyone

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<v Speaker 1>for their very kind words about our first episode last week.

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<v Speaker 1>We are I feel like we're the Beatles, were like

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<v Speaker 1>a On Apple podcasts, we're second for sports podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>on Spotify we're third.

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<v Speaker 2>That is terrific, and I do want us to thank

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<v Speaker 2>a few people, Sam who puts all this together, and

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Boris for allowing us to use his studios, and

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<v Speaker 2>the backing we're getting from Marco Miller, Ben English at

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<v Speaker 2>Newsical made it's all you know was Sancho and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know the partners obviously like what w'd you

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<v Speaker 2>bring about?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most important thing. Thank you seriously though, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been overwhelmed with the positive response in the last week

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<v Speaker 1>from you guys, so thank you so much. We just

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing what we're doing and hopefully you keep on

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<v Speaker 1>listening so you could keep a couple of old hats.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to knock off. I've got to knock off Canty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should knock out Kenny. Can just knock

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<v Speaker 1>him off the top. Okay. So on today's podcast, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got some breaking news from Buzz on origin eligibility, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been thrown into chaos because of the Painhearts Saga.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some breaking news as well, so stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the NRL's head high crackdown that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a crackdown. We'll talk about where Dally Cherry Evans is

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<v Speaker 1>headed and Tim Zoo's career whether that's on the line

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<v Speaker 1>when he fights on Sunday. And in our war story segment,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about the story I broke about

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Clark being grabbed by the throat by Simon Kaddich

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<v Speaker 1>in the SCG dressing room in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait, Web, I'll be asking questions about your sources

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<v Speaker 2>for that one. Now, I don't know whether you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to help. Would love to know where that story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny a lot of people that's I get asked

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot from other journals. Where did you get

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<v Speaker 1>that from?

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<v Speaker 2>All these different and I trust you'll with dell me

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>To them, you know, because I was told off the.

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<v Speaker 2>Record, right of course.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, our first segment Champs and Chumps, buzz, who

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<v Speaker 1>is your champ of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my champ of the week is the Canary Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 2>That might shock a lot of people because there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people in rugby league because of my

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<v Speaker 2>non relationship with Gus. Don't think think that that might

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<v Speaker 2>end of fear with my views on the Doggies. That

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<v Speaker 2>they are top of the ladder four straight wins. They

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<v Speaker 2>demolished the Cronulla Sharks at Chuk Park last Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there to see it. They are a seriously

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<v Speaker 2>tough football side and they are seriously a skillful football side.

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<v Speaker 2>That they did it without Burton carraz who was a

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<v Speaker 2>terrific outside back and kick out. Get these guys back

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<v Speaker 2>into that football site and I will be am here

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<v Speaker 2>to say that the Bulldogs are a hope are winning

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<v Speaker 2>the comp this year now, hold on. I base this

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<v Speaker 2>around the fact that Melbourne fell over last week. Penrith

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<v Speaker 2>have fallen over the last few weeks. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the most wide open Premiership in ten years. Gusts has

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<v Speaker 2>obviously done a terrific job with this football side of that,

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Surroundo, he is a sensational rugby league coach. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a really smart dude. They can win the comp.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years ago, you blokes in the media were saying

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<v Speaker 1>Surroundo is another next big thing that's going to flow.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty one, they won three games, they punted Trent

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<v Speaker 2>Barrett and then they finally got surrounded and he struggled

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<v Speaker 2>his first year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it just shows you the importance of patience, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am trigger on clubs and play and coaches in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>just after one or two seasons. I agree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're top four team. I don't think they can make

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't think they can win the Grand Final.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if they made it. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>exciting though. It's a great story. What's happening at Bellmore.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's not rugby league related. In my champ, Josh Giddy

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<v Speaker 1>sunk a half court shot on the buzzer for the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bulls, the famous Chicago Bulls, to beat the LA

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers his last twelve seconds. We just perform miracles, Giddy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's only twenty two. This kid, Willongong Boy, Wollongong Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on target for a massive contract at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, as much as fifty million Australian and

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets that, he won't just be on your money,

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<v Speaker 1>He'll he'll be up there with Ben Simmons and Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Malata in terms of the highest paid Australian athletes we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fun fact. His father, Warrick, played junior rugby

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<v Speaker 1>with Ricky Stewart. Did he really Yeah, I didn't find that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming so yeah, I just heard that a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days others.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like just say, I'm really pleased you've come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a credible champ this week. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about when you gave it Reggie Rabbit, you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>for champ or thumbs up?

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, what about you? You had been because he

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<v Speaker 1>returned a text message, So with that in mind, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually I texted Wayne because we've spoken since they did

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<v Speaker 1>he reply, Well, he didn't get back to me for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, and I thought you got back

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<v Speaker 1>to buzz but you brushed me. He did get back

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<v Speaker 1>to me, he did. Yeah, Wow, there you go. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not so self indulged in to make you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get him in here? Oh what odds one.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty fifty to one? Yeah, but if anyone can get

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<v Speaker 1>him in it's uh Nick Forden. Yeah, who's your chump?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it great day to have him back in rugby legion? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I well, you know what, Look at how they're going,

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<v Speaker 1>like seriously, like they lose two big names in Latrellon

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<v Speaker 1>and Cameron Murray and do what they do anyway, we're

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<v Speaker 1>digressing you. Who's your chump?

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<v Speaker 2>My chuce? This week is the shame worn story in

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<v Speaker 2>the Daily Mail. Three years after his death, the Daily

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<v Speaker 2>Mail published a story that there was some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>sex drug in his room. Care Factor zero. Let the

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<v Speaker 2>great man rest in peace, think of his family, his kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't think it was necessary whereby to be

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<v Speaker 2>dragging it up. Look where you all have known? And

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing I wanted to say. He wasn't cheating

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<v Speaker 2>on anyone, He wasn't in a relationship whatever was going

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<v Speaker 2>on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But his cause of death is relevant, buzz.

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't know it was the cause of death

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<v Speaker 2>the currentry that was heart.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's get this clear. But like the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they wrote it like it's a sex drug, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like viagra, it's camagra. Yeah, well I'm not really across

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<v Speaker 1>these things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, at my age, I'm not particularly concerned about it either.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want this guy. He was fairer World

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<v Speaker 2>so beautifully with the mc J, with the stand and

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't like it. You don't like it, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>No grubby journalism.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's Mine's football Australia. The way they went, the way

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<v Speaker 1>they went weak at the knees over Sam Kerb, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they've handled this whole story involving the

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<v Speaker 1>Matilda's captain and didn't sanction her at all or talk

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<v Speaker 1>the captaincy off her, which I thought would have been enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The sycophanic football media, with the exception of Robbie Slater,

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<v Speaker 1>have you know said that's a good idea. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it sends a too rible message. I know she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get she wasn't convicted. I know she was found not

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of those charges, but that video footage of her

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<v Speaker 1>in that police station was terrible for not just the

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<v Speaker 1>Matilda's brand, but also the football brand in this country

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry. If it was an NRL or NRLWU player,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have been given two to three weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>she had nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, And look, I honestly thought you and me,

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<v Speaker 2>being completely different dudes, would be arguing each week over

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<v Speaker 2>her these sort of things. But I've got a one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are right. And the Matilda's had such a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful love affair with the Australian sporting public and rightly so,

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<v Speaker 2>and those girls who represented us here at the World

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<v Speaker 2>Cup and the Mary Fowlers, all those but it's really

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<v Speaker 2>stained not just Sam but football Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Frig read the Room, for God's sake, read social media,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way that they the way that that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't act on it straight away, and then this press

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<v Speaker 1>release that they banged out a couple of days ago

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<v Speaker 1>and said that it was you know, we're with there's

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<v Speaker 1>some information that's come to light, but we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you what it is. You know that makes

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<v Speaker 1>us think that you know, Sam deserves a free pass.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that's weak and that's the problem that

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<v Speaker 1>holds football back in his country. It's so insular and

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<v Speaker 1>if you dare say anything critical about any of their

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<v Speaker 1>athletes or their coaches, and suddenly you're, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy or the rugby league reporter bashing up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>another sport.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's very briefly. Soccer went downhill in this

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<v Speaker 2>country when Frank Lowey left. I've sat opposite Frank Larwie

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the his office and the tower down

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<v Speaker 2>there on William Street, and I interviewed him and that

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<v Speaker 2>Clive Palmer, the jib bro, was in charge of the

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<v Speaker 2>and he kicked Palmer out of the comp that was

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<v Speaker 2>leadership whereby because Palmer was behaving like a goose. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can guarantee you the Lowey family was still running

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<v Speaker 2>Australian soccer. Sam Kerr would have got time and what

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<v Speaker 2>had been stripped of the captain. See, they have lost

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<v Speaker 2>all leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>And I reckon if David Gallup was the CEO, he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have stood for it.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get everyone upset. Yes, speaking of getting people, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you said we're different, dudes, Well we are we are,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, we certainly are different.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone keeps saying to me what they saw last week's

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and said, we had no idea that you actually

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<v Speaker 2>get on you can even sit o room together.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people think of how we were years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're making podcast music together.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going to do it this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to tell the story about the night

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<v Speaker 2>at the dal Ms when I was very, very tempted

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<v Speaker 2>to whack you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell that story.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to make it up like in most of

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<v Speaker 1>your guns anyway. I think, speaking of which our next ement,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard it here first unless it didn't happen. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>buzz breaking story. Waby, What do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you got for the fans of off the record?

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<v Speaker 1>Out there?

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<v Speaker 2>There is a major split in the ranks of the

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<v Speaker 2>RLPA and five hundred and twenty players across the competition

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<v Speaker 2>Civil War. Civil War. In the old tabloid days, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be the back page headline. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's over this mad Origin eligibility rules. And there was

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<v Speaker 2>a poll done last year and players were asked. Five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty players were asked should Tier one players

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<v Speaker 2>from New Zealand and England be allowed to play Origin

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<v Speaker 2>if they played their first foot Industry under thirteen? You

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<v Speaker 2>know the part, and this where the split is fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent said yes, forty nine percent said definitely no.

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<v Speaker 1>God, so it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Really interesting one. I think the qualification rules are just fascical.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a story break this week and I know

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<v Speaker 2>you were onto it first before Michael Chamis.

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<v Speaker 1>Beat me to the punch. You're saving it for this

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<v Speaker 1>segment and I've got bit to the So.

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<v Speaker 2>We have this out rageous situation where Jerome Lewis, Stephen Crichton,

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<v Speaker 2>Amalola now Painhass can play Origin and play for Samoa.

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<v Speaker 2>Victor Radley, cleverly crocodile since he was a six year old,

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<v Speaker 2>loves the New South Wales Blues, but good on him,

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<v Speaker 2>chose to play for England, can't play. Callen Ponger wants

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<v Speaker 2>to play for New Zealand but they won't let him

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a Tier one. It's rubbish, It's crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>wobbe what I got out of this before I chucked

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Clint Newton has told me that he did

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<v Speaker 2>something they will bring up as part of the discussions

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<v Speaker 2>and next CBA deal to find a solution that allows

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<v Speaker 2>our premium product in rugby league to have the very

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<v Speaker 2>best players in the game playing in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look that's good. I hope he does the same has

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<v Speaker 1>the same enthusiasm for fixing up the contracting system as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are I know we've lavish praise on

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<v Speaker 1>PVL and Abdolah on this program last week and fair

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<v Speaker 1>enough too, but there are three fundamental areas that need

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<v Speaker 1>to be fixed. That getting rid of the dirt bag

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<v Speaker 1>player managers in the game, two the contracting system, and

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<v Speaker 1>three eligibility rules. And every league boss before them have

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<v Speaker 1>always put these three things into the too hard basket.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the three things that need to be fixed,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are the three main issues that piss off fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and it needs to be It needs to be looked at,

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<v Speaker 1>and it needs to hard and fast rule on what

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<v Speaker 1>they are because the three systems are not working at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment will be.

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<v Speaker 2>The rules were done in nineteen eighty there were five

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<v Speaker 2>PACIFICA players in the competition. Then it was never an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>The game's changed, yeah, and we origin was always the

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<v Speaker 2>best thirty four players will run onto Lane Park, or

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<v Speaker 2>will run onto the Gidney Cricket Ground or MC wherever

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<v Speaker 2>the best thirty four in the comp Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want all Englishmen playing Sam Burgess would never qualify because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a poem. Victor Radley's and Aussie who's chosen to

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<v Speaker 2>play for England. These fellas Samoa. I want them playing

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<v Speaker 2>Origin because they all were born or grew up here.

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<v Speaker 2>I want Ponger playing.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to fix the I agree, and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Velandis and Andrew abdes we said that, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>slow with this one. They've got to actually do. Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Pierce was supposed to look at it two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You're very fine up. I get you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm frustrated over the lack of action. I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you want to protect our show piece event.

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<v Speaker 1>You're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Get another Nickoret I agree. I agree. The problem for

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<v Speaker 1>me if paying hearts. I don't think you should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to chop and change willy nilly. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think it really undermines international football. I know they'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it being good for international football, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't change it at the drop of the hat. I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that blokes like Leui or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>will represent Samoa, but I think that they've made that

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<v Speaker 1>choice and played for them first, and I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that should be it. I don't think you should suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, what because Camon Munster goes down

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<v Speaker 1>and Leui shoots the lights out in Origin, that he

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<v Speaker 1>should go from Samoa to Australia. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it should be one. But I agree the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is that, all right, use Leui as an example.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't get picked in the Australian team and

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<v Speaker 1>he gets picked for some he should be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>play for Samoa because if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do games a selection for Australia and in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, And I agree, like as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>there was five PACIFICA players in nineteen eighty in the camp.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how fifty to sixty percent? And just as the

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<v Speaker 1>rules have changed elsewhere in the game to fit the

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<v Speaker 1>trends in the game, that's what that has to change too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll make international football strong if Palmer can play for

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. But that's what that's the thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing. But so when I was sniffing

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<v Speaker 1>around this in the last couple of days, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Vorlandi's and Abdo and the response was the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not on the agenda. Why is it not on

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it not considered some of that very very

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<v Speaker 2>powerful man in this game, Andrew, you carry an enormous influence.

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<v Speaker 2>This will go onto the agenda. I'm sure it will.

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<v Speaker 1>We're setting agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Clint Newton's going to put down the agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's good because in the next CBA agreement it

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<v Speaker 1>should be done now. Yeah, get into it now. Not

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<v Speaker 1>in the next CBA negotiations. No, we've had ups and downs. Clean,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't like the contracting system even I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>different ends of the spectrum. Anyway, let's get onto the

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<v Speaker 1>news of the week. Well, it's a crackdown. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a crackdown. Apparently the NL is going to send in

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<v Speaker 1>players for head high shots to rival players after some

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<v Speaker 1>slipped through the net last week. Another crackdown, crackdown, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? It's not they're enforcing the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, exactly, that's all. It is enforcing the rules

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<v Speaker 2>that have been there since eight You can't hit the

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<v Speaker 2>blake in.

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<v Speaker 1>The head, buzz. That's exactly what they did before Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Round a few years ago, and look what happened is insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but The problem with Magic Round is they said

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<v Speaker 2>this about three hours before the eventage three days. That

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<v Speaker 2>was what they did, and I liked the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they admitted their referees, who were normally protected species, got

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong last week and they've told them to be

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<v Speaker 2>more vigilant this time, particularly that Red Barney shot on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground attacking the man in the head on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>If you did that down the road on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>they're a rest and charger.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in King's Cross. I see that every day. No,

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<v Speaker 1>just from people trying to get a coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I applaud the NRL. They had to do

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<v Speaker 2>something about it. There was some shocking incidents that went

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<v Speaker 2>unchecked last week and it can't go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Where as long as they don't overreact, I'll be happy

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's up to the players to ensure they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>The NRL doesn't overreact, and they need a slight adjustment

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<v Speaker 2>to their tackling technique.

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<v Speaker 1>But they said this a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Made I blow up about Magic Round more than anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and that ridiculously over the top and it shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>happened the way it did.

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<v Speaker 1>You just know I don't want the bunker to get

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<v Speaker 1>involved in everything like they do. That's the problem, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I just totally disagree with you. There there was

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<v Speaker 2>an even worse incident. Do you saw that touch judge

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<v Speaker 2>up at sun Corpse Stadium the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Night doing what when you do something? Did the touchdows

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<v Speaker 1>do something?

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<v Speaker 2>That is probably the biggest Selwyn Cobbo didn't plant his

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<v Speaker 2>foot on the line but over the fright line and

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<v Speaker 2>they played on a game changing decision. And I'm of

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<v Speaker 2>the opinion and I've said this or week and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to bore people by keep going on the bug.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have said, hey, you got that wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have disagree, buzz. I think I think they

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<v Speaker 1>should just put things. It's not NFL. Well, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop start everything. Just put it in the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>the on field match officials.

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<v Speaker 2>Team Saint George, we're in a grand final.

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<v Speaker 1>They did do it in a Grand final against the

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<v Speaker 1>Rosters and they won the game.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but if it decides a premiership. But you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want the blanket to say quickly, hey boys, you got

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a grand back. No, no, no, no. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that the technology has overrun the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's far too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you are wrong. We have millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars with a high definition four K.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know how the bunker works. Buzz, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have our first blue ear. Well, yeah, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you, just one of us a

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<v Speaker 2>talking sense here where you can't you can't not allow

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<v Speaker 2>them to step in. And I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 2>step when there's a clanger, howler, a game changer.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't a game change. What if you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough, Like I get it, I get it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a crucial decision. But mistakes are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to get every decision right. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you like the touch. You got that wrong, But that's.

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<v Speaker 2>In the position we saw in now lounge room. That

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were they supposed to do? So they play

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<v Speaker 1>on across the back. What they get three tackles it

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<v Speaker 1>down into the set and they go hang on. We've

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen that it should be back here. The bunker

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<v Speaker 1>would have done it, and that game doesn't stop. The

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.119
<v Speaker 1>game isn't It's not American football. We don't have stoppages.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't watch if I watch trying to turn rugby

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<v Speaker 1>league into NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not. I just don't. I think we've got

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<v Speaker 2>it there, use it, but sparingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I've had enough for you. Dally Cherry Evans, what

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<v Speaker 1>a saga this has turned out to be. D c

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<v Speaker 1>E versus Mestrov webv Moses nine v Fox Wide le

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<v Speaker 1>v Rossfield on the undercart. It's Chambers v Read. That

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<v Speaker 1>is very and so Dally Dally has he I love

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<v Speaker 1>a smear campaign that was extraordinary. Media wasn't it terrible?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. He just didn't say it. He

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<v Speaker 1>said it's a triple M S E N at the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. There's a blink going past saying smear campaign

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like he told everybody. For someone who wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of speculation about his future, he's sort of speculation times.

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<v Speaker 2>A thousand through of petrol.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, how did you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm outraged by people because I know everything I've reported,

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing smear. It's factually correct, and it's been a massive,

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<v Speaker 2>massive story, and I'm surprised DCU carried on the way

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.440
<v Speaker 2>he did. My opinion won't change ONNY. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>been well looked after over fifty years. I think him

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<v Speaker 2>and his managers should have worked hard to do a

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<v Speaker 2>deal with Manly before they just went on Channel nine

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>and announced it was going. I don't you know, It's

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 2>just not the right way to do business at a

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year employee.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they treated him poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>Look if you went to News Corp your employer and said, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the editor is smearing me the CEOs, well

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't say it whereby not publicly.

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he's playing I think both gamps are playing

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<v Speaker 1>a pr war, and I think DC is winning it.

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I do buzz he didn't get booed at all there

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<v Speaker 1>at Brooklyn very mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But look, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just again we disagree. I think Manly stuffed it up.

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>They should have sorted this a long time ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lot of us to do with

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Tony Mestrov wanting to have complete control and power of

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<v Speaker 1>that club. I know he's the CEO, but you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to sometimes you've got to realize you're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win a camp with or without Cherry Evans. You win

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it with him, so you do what you do to

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<v Speaker 1>keep him.

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<v Speaker 2>I've said all along that there's two sides that fault here,

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<v Speaker 2>and both of them have had very, very poor table

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 2>manners in the negotiations, and it's finished up with a

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 2>legend leaving the club.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon. The thing that's annoyed him the most was

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff about the release, because it was explained to

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:27.160
<v Speaker 1>me from the Cherry Evans camp. The release was asked

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<v Speaker 1>for some time ago about returning the Queen's lad for

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<v Speaker 1>family matters, and now that's been used against him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably what's annoyed him the most.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been leaking to mate who's been king.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of leaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, more important, bring my relationship with Danny Weidler into it,

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<v Speaker 2>Please God, why? Because I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the big dogs. You're the big dogs. No, we're

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>not saying there's like animosity, but it's like there's it's

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 1>jeweling columns.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it is, it's and often you have a

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 2>CLI vision on a Sunday morning with his column and

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>there's been combat over the years. But I report things

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>as I see and I don't even think about Danny

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 2>as I'm sitting there at the keyboard doing my best

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to inform the punters.

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I've got you bifocal glasses. I can see Danny living

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>rent free in your head. Listen where's he going? It's

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 1>it's shaping up as a the dog Father versus the Godfather.

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Gus v politis Uncle Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>So he know how to play the game. They play it,

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I reckon DC. He'll be singing that song at the Chalks.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 1>It better than that. What's that song?

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong? You know how to play the game. They

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 2>play it hard but fair.

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a song from the Nine as pre what's he going?

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Where's he going?

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I think he's going the Chalkies.

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 1>It seems our way, doesn't it? He does, But I

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>mean there seems to be I know, Gus come out

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and said or X and said, you know

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not We're not interested. I don't believe that, do you?

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Reckon Tom a lot of things. Weeks later he denied

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Old Philip Ronald Gould and they

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>came to Fruition. Yeah, the truth is out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Look there's a smoke in Redcliffe. I also got told

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 2>he might be interesting cat Lands, his wife and a

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 2>couple of years in France.

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>But I can say this one I spoke to some

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 1>with the Gold Coast yesterday at the top end of

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the tree. They have not even a discussion about him, right,

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>so that's not going to happen.

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that he's wedding seebs wasn't Oh god.

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>We must be going there. Then go to a wedding.

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>We play half back with him next year. Okay, let's

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>get into our final news. Tim Zoo is finding Joey Spencer,

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>an American who's a loud mouth in in zoo Castle,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Newcastle on Is it Sunday or Saturday?

0:26:58.800 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Sunday?

0:26:59.240 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>On Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, two o'clock before the forty what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reckon? There's some debate about whether Joey Spencer

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>will fight because he's blown up about the judging judges.

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's going to fight. I think it's

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>a bit of pre publicity hype that boxing generates every

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>now and then.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I love boxing. You can you could say anything about something.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>You can say that your opponent's a serial killer. That's

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>all right as long as it gets tickets and pay

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>per views.

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>On the way in this morning, I stopped at Bramskate

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had a coffee with the most nervous man

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 2>in Australian Sport, that being Matt Rose. Oh how is

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the boss of no limit? Who knows it is d

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Day for Tim Zero. He's lost his last two fights,

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the only two he has ever lost, clearly beaten in both,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>and unless he can beat Joey Spencer, I think it

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 2>might be all over. Red Rover.

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Really, when he can retire.

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he will mate. I just don't think there's

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 2>any way back from three straight losses, not at his

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 2>age at thirty. He's not an up and coming boxer.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>He had his first fight in twenty sixteen. It was

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>at an event at the Sydney Cricket Ground and he

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>became world class. But what I like about Tim though,

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Matt Rose and the team said, you've got to come back.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 2>You've had two losses against a you know, we'll just

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>put you up against a stiff basically, we'll just get

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>your confidence back. We'll get to pay your audience. He said, No,

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>if I'm gonna, you know, stay in this business, I'm

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>going to fight the best, and he's picked one of

0:28:54.480 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>the best available. Do you know now Tim Zoo is

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>not in the IBF top ten really well, actually he's

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>not in the top ten. If he wins this fight,

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>he'll shoot into all of them.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I find it really the loss of Fundora, like at

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>finding him an awkward fightal of that at the last

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>minute was always going to be, you know, a tricky

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>task for him. I'm sad with how the Tim Zoos

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>story is gone. He looked, you know, he was was

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>going to go to America and take on Vegas and

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and become our best boxer in a

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, in a generation. He was so determined to

0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>step out of Costure's shadow. And then when things started

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to turn, he just tried to trade in on the

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>on the Zoo name I Reckon And I think that

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't particularly I think there was mixed messages about you know,

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>who he was and what he wanted to be, you know,

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>say my name, say my name, which was an le thing.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It was. Yeah, I just it's he's become. Boxing is

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>so brutal, and it's such a lonely sport. If you

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>if you lose a couple, you're out the door. You've

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>seen it with Cambos, you know.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>The ramorifications of a loss. It's not just him, but

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>it's no limit boxing and they're the number one. Yeah,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they do things world class. I don't care what you say.

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>They're big events.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>They very much almost saved Astray and boxing in many ways.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but if they lose Tim Zoo from their stable

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 2>there in Strie.

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>They're they're in stra So there is a limit, Yes,

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>there is no limit.

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And as I said, Maddie Rose is so nervous. Yeah right,

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>but Tim Zoo despite I think he'll win because he

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>is a great fighter. He's better than his tactics were

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>wrong in the last fight, and he's tough.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 3>He is shy boy, shy boy, mate, he's got a

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>glass Juli, beg your pardon. You know what, I'm just

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 3>giving you a bit of grace. I'm going to give

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>you till about round seven or eight. And then if

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 3>you keep sledging me and climb across there, how you

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to climb across there. Just go bang bang

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>and do what I should have done twenty odd years ago.

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>The Dalm story will be told in upcoming episodes listeners

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, the day James Hooper saved Web, The.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Day I tried to fight half of News Corp at

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>them after party. All right, right, let's move on to

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>our next segment, War stories.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I love war stories. I love them. And it's your term.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>It's your turn.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So let's go back to February two thousand and nine,

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>when I was about twenty kilos lighter and had more hair,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and i'd just been I joined the Telegraph two weeks earlier,

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and you were my sports editor. Yes, and I start and,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>like every young journo who starts at a new master,

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>heek because it quite a big move, wasn't it, from

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the Herald to the Telegraph.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Can I tell people that it took me to schoon.

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>You said this last week, and that's a lie. I

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what I don't think any of us can

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>remember what happened that night. And the story that fell

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>into my lap from a very good contact was that

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael Clark Australian captain. Was he captain then?

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if he was. I think Panda

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>might have been mate.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he was the vice captain. Sorry, it's good

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to know. I'm glad I know my own story. He

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>was the vice captain and they'd won a test, right,

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>they'd won a Test, and they kept Clarkey, one of

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the songs under the Southern Cross sung early so he

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>could depart the dressing rooms at the SCG. They'd lost

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the series of South Africa, but they had won that

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>test by one hundred and three runs. At the Sydney

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Cricket Ground. That's the tradition of singing under the Southern Cross,

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and Simon Caddich was the custodian of singing the song,

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and Clark kept saying, I want to you know, I

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>want to move along, want to move it along. I

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>got told it was because he wanted to see Lara Bingle.

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Clark actually denied that in his autoboom many years later. Look,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I just think it was because of but his teammates

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly thought it was to see Lara Bingle. Anyway, Simon

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Caddich grabbed him by the throat and held him up

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>against the wall, and it was passed off as a

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>just a minor skirmish that happens in every sporting team.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>But it just showed the simmering tension in that side

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>towards Michael Clark. What's surprise you with that story? Buzz

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was was so Peter Young was ahead of corporate affairs.

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember Peter Young. You saw the glasses and the

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>beat and the bow tye. It was quite a good

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>It was an eccentric character, good operator. And I called

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>him and he said, I'll get back to you quite quickly,

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and he came back with prepared statements from both of them,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Caddy Chang class. So they been waiting for the story

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to go and I'd got out first.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 2>What surprised mood? Where be just interrupting? The Australian cricket

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>dressing room is probably the most sacred place in Australian sport.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>What happens inside that dressing room for AE hundred and

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>more years stays inside that dressing room, all the antiques,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 2>all the you know. I can't believe it got out. No,

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and how did you get the story?

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I heard it from someone I'm not giving up.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it a player? Can you say that much?

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say it was a former player connected to

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>who was well connected witness. Well, then I subsequently founded

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>up with eyewitnesses and people around Clark and Caddich.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 2>It was a massive story where it was a start

0:34:59.080 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and back page.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Well here's the thing. So at the time News Corp

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>News Corp. It ran on the front page of every

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>single newspaper in the tab in the News tab Corp

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>in the news Corp, in the news Corp family, except

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Telegraph, where I was working, because the editor

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of the time, Gary Leannelle, was very excited about the

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that it was going to be forty seven degrees

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>in city. The next day it turned out to be

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty six. I got bumped off the front paget. I

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>got found for a weather story. But I remember Connie.

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember he was a great editor. Gary Lenell. I

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>called in heally for a reaction piece the next morning

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.919
<v Speaker 1>and that was his first thing that buzz. He goes,

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>who told you? I said, I can't say, and he said,

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I've got nothing to say. He's dark on me.

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>You've raised a really big story, because from there it

0:35:54.560 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>became very, very apparent that Michael Clark was quite distant

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 2>from the rest of that cricket side, particularly in retirement.

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 2>His fortieth birthday were.

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>beIN, yeah, yeah, I've heard this from people before that

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no cricketers at it, which is which

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is fine. Pastor present plays, which is fine. But it

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>just shows that Clark is a different cat, you know.

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 2>But even you go to the and you come to

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the Test too in Sydney and you see all those

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 2>great old champions, either in the Fox box or the

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Channel seven box? Or are you usually are with your

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>mate Stephen Gibbs. What Stephen Gibbs like feeding plus one?

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>He is? He is, Actually he loves Jackson.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>He'll drink for Australia. Russ Jackson my chief of staff.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 1>I've got to say this, Once you drink cold beer

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>out of a frosty glass, I can't go back. I'm

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:01.720
<v Speaker 1>not going back to plastic cups.

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Look back to Clarkey. I never see him there at

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the Sydney Test. He doesn't seem to be part of reunions.

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>And look, I've had a very colorful history myself with

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Clarky when he was on the big Sports breakers. So

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I peered every Monday and every second Monday we'd have

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>a major blue to finish up the Daily Mail.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>We're very combative.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I can find a blue better than most.

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>But I actually like him a lot, Yes so do I.

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>I Look, don worry. Clark and I had a very

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ups and downs, so we were all right after that

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>story with the bigger blue we had was twenty fifteen,

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>when I had actually been at the cricket and the

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>former very very well known former captain came up and said,

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>when are you one of you? Blake's going to write

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>about how the Australian cricket team are off. Michael Clark

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>he was out with that hamstring injury. So this is

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>two fifteen. I remember writing it and that caused absolute

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>World War three. But you know what, and I was

0:37:58.080 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>told it was wrong and it was a beat up.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And then all these subsequent autobiographies from all these players,

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Johnson, Clark himself, they all confirmed it in their

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 1>own books. So so like this story and like and

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>like that story. Then it gets denied. You beat up, merchant.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>This is all bullshit. Your sources have told you lies,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you know what, it's just social story. But

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>then it ends up being confirmed. It's just a reminder

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to me that if you're strong enough in your sources

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to don't flinch and still write it. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>just say this, I get on great with clarky now

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>and I have a great relationship with talk better.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>There's all the takedowns in his life, the Karl Stefanovic

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>fallout and the video. Yeah that's the Bell, his longtime

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 2>accountant who set him up for life. He's on the

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>water down there at Rose Bay. He's got probably just

0:38:55.760 --> 0:39:00.720
<v Speaker 2>squillionaire Clarky, but they no longer talk. I think it's sad.

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It is sad, I do.

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I really think it's sad because I find him a

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>good bike too.

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Carl Stefanovic v. Michael Clark in NUSA. It's like a

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Kathy King episode. Anyway? Was it a great story?

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 2>That didn't Carl do his hammy?

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>He did? I remember? What did Clark? You call him? Carlos?

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>The We probably can't. I know, I know we could

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.080
<v Speaker 1>swear on this podcast. We probably drew a line there.

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>All right's just for a story.

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I can't heard him for next week.

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to tell and listen. Well just well,

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<v Speaker 1>just very briefly. It's thirty years in Super League on

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>April and I spoke to John Quowle, the general manager

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>of the Australian Rugby League earlier this week. I said

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty years qualely and he you know, he didn't even

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>flinchy goes, He said, mate, I didn't even know that

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>was the anniversary he said for us. The battle started,

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you know a couple of years earlier. What's your Super

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>League war story? I was just a young journal in

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Valley back then.

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>So I went look a young boughts editor at the

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Sunday Telegraph at the time and a Rugby league writer there.

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And it was the most difficult period of my career

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>because I was working for a company and I didn't

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>agree with what they were doing and my mates were

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>on the arl side RK and Quail and a lot

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>of the officials there. It was a really, really difficult

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>story to cover where me and I'll probably go into

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>more deal. I don't want to.

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is along the story down the track.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, but it got to a stage where

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I did quit over it. I James Packer rang me

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>and offered me a job at Rugby League Week has

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>edited a car a parking spot, good money. Do you

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 2>know what he said to me? He said, I need

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 2>a decision in twenty four hours. I said why. He said,

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>because I went on Alan James's show Tomorrow morning bagging

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>news Corp about how they're dictators and I want you

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>on the footy show tomorrow night bag in news Corp

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 2>visit it, I said, James, that's why I want to leave,

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 2>because people were telling you what to do. Thankfully, I

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 2>stayed independent always, absolutely, don't you Ever.

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Was how much? What was the increase in money?

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? No increase?

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to get he wanted you to go

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>for the same money?

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, I tell you when I decided to stay,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>it would have been some more money. Yeah, well how

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>much I'm not now on no that you don't reveal this?

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.240
<v Speaker 1>How much of a percentage?

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>The super League coverage at news Court. Rupert Murdoch once

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>poked his head into conference. He said, where's the sports editor?

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I put my hand up. I maybe, mister Murdoch, you said,

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>just look after super League. No, it was very very lighthearted.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>It was very lighthearted.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Good on you, uncle rub Yeah, it would have been

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:58.959
<v Speaker 1>great days.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know we've got a thousand make that's a

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.360
<v Speaker 2>beauty the Cad Clark story. Did you win an award

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>for that?

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>No? I didn't. Actually that's why ever since then, I've

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 1>rarely gone in awards because I thought, if that will

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>can't even get a no, No, they're fast anyway, it's lefty.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't left you. I don't write for awards, I

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 2>don't enter all.

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>We don't do this job for the awards. You do

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it for the cash, right, let's get let's get to

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>feel US forecast. But what's your feel US forecast For

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 1>this week?

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I've turned to the big game. Eastern Suburbs Roosters versus

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 2>South Sunny Rabbit is my favorite game of the year.

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't care where they are on the ladder. I

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>don't care what sort of struggles they are going through.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 2>It'll be a cracker. You know why because the twill

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Mitchell is back and you click more Turnstiles and he

0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>will bring more eyeballs to Fox and Channel nine. It

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 2>is a super super game. I think Sous with him back,

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:10.720
<v Speaker 2>will comfortably beat the Roosters thirteen plus. And I would

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 2>throw Latrelle in as an any time try scorer.

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I like it.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I will say, though, the most important thing is gamble responsibly.

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Andrew, thank you for that tip, Uncle Buzz. Mine's the Panthers.

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe people are you know, the dynasty's over, Like,

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've been up for a while, the old Pennies,

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.720
<v Speaker 1>haven't they Yeah they have, you know, like they in tonal.

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>To look a little bit Vegas hangover.

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I do, I know, I do, yeah, but still but yeah,

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>they probably do. I think the problem was they look

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>so good against Cronulla in that in Vegas. Like, I

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a quality game. You know what I

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>really noticed at that stadium at Allegian, where were we

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>were sitting, where we were the sweet we were in

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Halp High. It was almost like brook value right on

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 1>top of it. You could really get an appreciation for

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 1>the speed of the game. That game is very quick.

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I love how you spend the day in the suite.

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>I was in the press box. I was a working

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>accredited journalist.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you a little tip. You get more stories in

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the suite than you do in the press spot.

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I scooped you on the biggest story there where the

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Warriors assistant coach came out of his room and at

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>half time and grabbed grabbed the.

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I scooped you. It wasn't that I couldn't care less

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>about an assistant coach, And it got a lot of clicks.

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.439
<v Speaker 1>That's all that matters. So I like the Panthers will

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.919
<v Speaker 1>be back with a vengeance, particularly with Nathan Cleary back

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 1>in the side. I know there's no Sorenson, Edwards or Edwards,

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of course, but still I think Pendrith wild do a job.

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Thirteen plus Alamodi ta lungey, Liam Martin. Always a bit

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>of value for a back rower to score. Anytime I scores,

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>that's fourteen dollars gamble responsibly.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Is this shut the one you do with your nephew?

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>We no, no, no, I do one with my nephew

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>every week. That's that's good. It's good.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>What do you call it?

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>The jay Monday multi? That's my nephew who's a tyler

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>on the North coast and that good. Isn't that a

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>great to bond with your.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>You're you knock around a lot of tradees.

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I come from a family of traders. Yeah, I got

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I was smart. I got out. You bring about sport

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>for a living, which we've just done for the last

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes or so. Very good. Thanks so much.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Do you find us a sponsor?

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, what's the door? I think they're knocking now

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to get on board? Hey listen, Thanks everyone for tuning

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<v Speaker 2>It, Webby a lot of fun and see back in there, SWAZ.

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<v Speaker 1>See you next week. Buddy, see you guys,